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Time For Brahmins To Change At Least in Marriages

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Brahmins have been a closely knit community.

There are other communities which are more closely knit than the Brahmins, say, the Nattukkottai Nagarathar Community.

As I am a Brahmin by birth, a proud one for being so,I deem it fit to record some unpleasant facts, especially  regarding marriages, in our Community.

Some of my observations are likely to hurt but some one has to say them.

I am aware that I will be criticized very severely, for no body is a biter critic of a Brahmin than a fellow Brahmin, much in the same way as the Jews,

Marriages,

I searched for an alliance for my son for over three and half years before I got him married.

I had utilized all avenues from the traditional circulation of Horoscopes to registering in Matrimonial Sites,

There is a tendency among most of the parents, whose daughter’s are employed, and more so if they have only one daughter:

That of postponing the marriage of their daughters as long as possible.

The reasons they cite are,,

The girl does not want to marry now,

She needs to be independent for some time, earning well to enable her to stand on her feet,

The arguments are fallacious.

No Girl or Boy will come to their parents and declare that they want to marry and ask them to look for a suitable spouse.

They would be coy in admitting the fact that it is time for them to get married.

I am excluding those children who come and declare that they are in love with some one(normally with one from another caste: even this I attribute to the fact of parents delaying the marriage on one pretext or another.

As parents it is our responsibility to advise them the advantages of getting married at an early age, the reasons being,

a ) If you are looking for the Best looking woman or Man, remember that the opposite side also does the same and each has the privilege of rejecting.

b) You do not get any younger and it would be tougher to get a match as time marches on.

And taking  children’s views of not wanting to get married has few serious consequences for parents as well.

I know of a couple of cases, where the parents have stopped looking for alliances because  their children said so.

These parents, they are my close friends,took their children’s views seriously and stopped looking for a match.

Now the boys are past 35.
They have stopped speaking with their parents thought they stay in the same house and are alright in all other respects.

As i can closely mingle with the younger set as a friend, this is with my own children as well, I understood from them that they are cross that their parents have not finalised their marriages!

They are sore that their parents have taken their views seriously!

Now I am looking for alliances for them along with their parents.

Lesson- go about alliances notwithstanding your children’s objections and record them.

If they refuse, show them the records , that would keep them on their toes.

Another repulsive habit of parents of brides insisting that thee Bride groom must be in the city were the girls’ parents live!

The girls might agree to it for the time being , would regret later when they find they remain unmarried for  long.

Children have their lives to led, be it a Boy or Girl.

Another obnoxious habit is that some parents are reluctant to get their daughters married because they will lose their daughter’s salary!

This is a fact and I have , in two instances told the parents of the Girls if they want only money they should not have begotten children!

I may point out a curious fact.

Please check Tamil matrimony marriage site, find out how many girls’ profile have been uploaded by the Girls themselves/their friends as against the profiles uploaded by Parents.

You will find personal/friends uploads will be in the age group of over 27.

The reason is parents keep on refusing Alliances on some spurious ground or another and at the age of 27 or 28 the girl starts taking her life into their hands.

Avoid this and remember delaying the marriage of a Girl is a very serious Sin , Kanya Paapam that would affect your family for generations, not with standing Sumangali Prarthnais.

Another issue is refusing sub sect marriages.

Sub-sects are based on Geographical locations where the ancestors have lived, like Mythili Brahmins hailed from Mithila, Vadamas in Tamil Nadu were from the North of the River Cauvery.

Some times Brahmin sub-sects are derived from the duties they were adept at. Adigas in Cooking, Vaathimaas in Purohitam,Vajpayees,Somayajees in performing a particular. yaga or yagnya

Among Brahmins there is no division of States or Languages either.

We follow the Vedas, period.No differences.

Let me narrate an incident when I visited Sringeri  and had performed Biksha Vandana for His Holiness Sri Bharathi Theertha Swamigal of The Sringeri Mutt.

As me and my wife neared the Acharya, the man who normally stands by his side asked me,

‘neevu kannadadhvara, Are you from Karnataka?’

I replied,

‘I am  Brahmin’

The Acharya heard this and asked  me to explain .

I said,

‘ I am a Brahmin by birth, not by Knowledge, but still a Brahmin for my ancestors have been good Brahmins .

My Mother tongue is Tamil,

As a Brahmin my father tongue is Sanskrit.

Therefore, it does not matter for a Brahmin which State he belongs to because He is a Brahmin”

The Acharya called the man and said,

‘Yajnayopaveeda aaki barubavarathra eethara kelu beda,

Do not these questions of those who come here with Yagnyopaveeda”(Sacred Thread)

That’s it.

Do not look for same sects, State, Language.

A Brahmin will do.

I observe that people conduct reception before the wedding day.

This is wrong.

If some one of the pair dies after Reception before marriage, what is the status of either of them?

The habit of clapping of hands after Mangalya Dharana, it is prohibited.

The habit of shaking hands with the couple after Mangalya Dharana  before Aseervatha is a Taboo.

In Hinduism . the ‘Handing Over’ Panigrahana is Sacred and the hands of the couple are not to be touched by others till Aseervatha.

Some more thoughts might follow.

94 responses to “Time For Brahmins To Change At Least in Marriages”

  1. Subhodeep Mukhopadhyay Avatar

    Dear Sir – You have spoken very wisely. Even during my travels across India from Assam to Gujarat and from Uttar Pradesh to Mahabalipuram, I realized one truth – “Brahmin culture throughout India is essentially similar”.

    Outer forms might have changed -mother tongue, food habits etc may change – but the inner core is same. Sanskrit and Samskriti ties all Brahmins together.

    In earlier days there was no difference between a North Indian Brahmin or a South Indian Brahmin or Cambodian Brahmin. Brahmins used to move though out India and even outside and easily married in other areas, as long as gotras were different. Regional Brahmins and caste system was a creation of British for divide and rule.

    Really appreciate your post.

    My website: Brahminpedia

    1. ramanan50 Avatar

      Regds

    2. ramanan50 Avatar

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  2. Suresh Avatar
    Suresh

    Marriage does involve adjustments and compromises/sacrifices ,as is the case with any other aspect of life- one’s workplace,social relationships etc. This ‘sacred institution’ has been advocated as good by all religions and supports the case for continuation of mankind.But the trends that have surfaced in recent times in our brahmin community are disturbing and in fact point TO A DEEPER MALAISE that is affecting our ‘attitudes’ which get reflected in behaviour. The so called “due diligence” in selecting the partner whether by horoscope/inter-acting in person/ family interaction etc.sometimes exceeds reasonable limits.Presuming that we are God believers, I would say that there is a certain dearth of faith the way both sides try to ‘insure’ the marriage alliance forgetting the fact that there are lot of things which we dont know compared to what we already know(again, how much do we really know?) and that God disposes where man proposes.( it is more than a truism to state that Marriages are made in heaven) ‘Humility’ is not an admirable trait anymore; ‘aggressiveness” has since become the fashionable word.How many of us realise that several great people have achieved success in life by being aggressive in what they believed but practiced humility.It is only when people are overwhelmed by problems and suffering that they are “humbled” ,but it will be good if they can slap their useless ego that time around and learn to see where true happiness and peace lay. Some of the earlier comments are not objective and smack of personal frustration. Those who pooh- pooh caste for its sake should also realise that we are responsible for the deterioration in the “values” our community once upheld- I am not referring to the distorted practices indulged in by some boy’s /girl’s families which constitute a gross misinterpretation of religion (for personal convenience) of what is sound and which do not have the sanction of our religion.A LIFE WITHOUT VALUES CAN NEVER BESTOW HAPPINESS AND PEACE.Only if we have values can we develop the right attitudes . Then whatever pain comes along can be absorbed easily. Too much materialism , (which basically arises from selfishness)will toll the death bell for happiness.Let us not denigrate ‘marriage’ to the level of ‘just another agreement’ in life which can be breached at will.Generally you will agree, no breach of contract is without penalty or consequences.- only the mode differs.When people of other communities and castes are keen on preserving their respective purity , it beats reason as to why we brahmins should not do the same.After all we were considered to be people who adopted the best practices in life.Best practices are always tough and difficult in any field/area – be it in accounting standards, ISO, benchmarking etc.- Those who cannot measure up to the same and drop out should not be hypocrites by pointing accusing fingers at the community.

    Nevertheless, these days it is heartening to hear that both the boy and the girl look for an ‘equal’ relationship. This is a farcry from those days when the boy’s family used to bully the girl’s family ( a really shameful era!). But for the same reason a tit-for -tat reaction is not justified from girls families now , as is surely happening in many cases. Im sure Mr Remanan was referring to these cases with real pain. No one is going to win in this ‘fight ‘. Why fight? Why bargain? In alliances, Intelligent “Case Assessments” are made just like with lab tools! What is needed more , is a positive and accomodative attitude . Be less self centred and more accomodative and invoke God’s blessings next time you consider an alliance whether for your boy or girl.. You will see things more clearly and be able to take a better decision.

  3. Ganga Avatar
    Ganga

    Kasi yatra
    nallungu
    oonjal
    sumngali prarthana
    jana vasam
    nischyathartham
    malai mattal
    All these are unwanted and non vedic

    1. Agaram Avatar

      They are seeded with great intentions & thoughts if you understand keenly. If marriage matters, thoughts & actions on a positive note do matter.
      It may be embarrassing only if you don’t understand. Everything seems meaningless until we know the meaning somehow. Regards

  4. A brahmin girl disgusted by your post! Avatar
    A brahmin girl disgusted by your post!

    With all due respect to your age Sir, Mr Ramanan I have to tell you live in stone age and not in this century! How silly of you to think and propagate the fact that women in late 20’s are begging to be married off. These are the women who are educated and in most circumstances more educated, intellectual and independent than the boys of their age. These are the women who are looking for an equal partner and not just a ‘Brahmin Boy’ who wears a thread and performs the rituals his mother or father ask him to perform without a mind of his own. The same holds good to boys of marriageable age too. They are a generation of youngsters who crave for more in life than just being married and reproducing grand-children for their parents to play with.

    Besides the caste-ist statements like “Do not look for same sects, State, Language.A Brahmin will do.” This makes your blog nothing else but internet trash coming straight from a bigoted Brahmin! Which girl or boy in their right mind will marry a fool selected by their parents simply because he/she is a Brahmin. Most these boys are not even fir to be called Brahmin. They drink, smoke and indulge in all other immoral activities but a thread on their chest or three lines on their forehead accords them a high caste status! Our society has many such boys/girls and these are not the examples to follow. After writing this much I really think it is a waste of time to even reason with the likes of you! If you want to be a good Brahmin and do something for the society please first stop tarnishing the image of Brahmins with this narrow minded crap. It is an insult to Brahminism.

    1. Agaram Avatar


      https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.jsI have been observing closely! People in every community give more importance to
      culture coated life less acts & reflect the same in every action. No effort is taken to inculcate personal values, empathy and compassion. Well, any religion can never preach these things & kith and kin alone are not worthy of sharing noble qualities with. We are living in hypocrite society-there is no coherence is intention-speech and action…culture coated goodness, good looking, greed & comparisons can help none to grow wiser!

  5. Vasanthi Iyer Avatar
    Vasanthi Iyer

    Very interesting article.

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