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Time For Brahmins To Change At Least in Marriages

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Brahmins have been a closely knit community.

There are other communities which are more closely knit than the Brahmins, say, the Nattukkottai Nagarathar Community.

As I am a Brahmin by birth, a proud one for being so,I deem it fit to record some unpleasant facts, especially  regarding marriages, in our Community.

Some of my observations are likely to hurt but some one has to say them.

I am aware that I will be criticized very severely, for no body is a biter critic of a Brahmin than a fellow Brahmin, much in the same way as the Jews,

Marriages,

I searched for an alliance for my son for over three and half years before I got him married.

I had utilized all avenues from the traditional circulation of Horoscopes to registering in Matrimonial Sites,

There is a tendency among most of the parents, whose daughter’s are employed, and more so if they have only one daughter:

That of postponing the marriage of their daughters as long as possible.

The reasons they cite are,,

The girl does not want to marry now,

She needs to be independent for some time, earning well to enable her to stand on her feet,

The arguments are fallacious.

No Girl or Boy will come to their parents and declare that they want to marry and ask them to look for a suitable spouse.

They would be coy in admitting the fact that it is time for them to get married.

I am excluding those children who come and declare that they are in love with some one(normally with one from another caste: even this I attribute to the fact of parents delaying the marriage on one pretext or another.

As parents it is our responsibility to advise them the advantages of getting married at an early age, the reasons being,

a ) If you are looking for the Best looking woman or Man, remember that the opposite side also does the same and each has the privilege of rejecting.

b) You do not get any younger and it would be tougher to get a match as time marches on.

And taking  children’s views of not wanting to get married has few serious consequences for parents as well.

I know of a couple of cases, where the parents have stopped looking for alliances because  their children said so.

These parents, they are my close friends,took their children’s views seriously and stopped looking for a match.

Now the boys are past 35.
They have stopped speaking with their parents thought they stay in the same house and are alright in all other respects.

As i can closely mingle with the younger set as a friend, this is with my own children as well, I understood from them that they are cross that their parents have not finalised their marriages!

They are sore that their parents have taken their views seriously!

Now I am looking for alliances for them along with their parents.

Lesson- go about alliances notwithstanding your children’s objections and record them.

If they refuse, show them the records , that would keep them on their toes.

Another repulsive habit of parents of brides insisting that thee Bride groom must be in the city were the girls’ parents live!

The girls might agree to it for the time being , would regret later when they find they remain unmarried for  long.

Children have their lives to led, be it a Boy or Girl.

Another obnoxious habit is that some parents are reluctant to get their daughters married because they will lose their daughter’s salary!

This is a fact and I have , in two instances told the parents of the Girls if they want only money they should not have begotten children!

I may point out a curious fact.

Please check Tamil matrimony marriage site, find out how many girls’ profile have been uploaded by the Girls themselves/their friends as against the profiles uploaded by Parents.

You will find personal/friends uploads will be in the age group of over 27.

The reason is parents keep on refusing Alliances on some spurious ground or another and at the age of 27 or 28 the girl starts taking her life into their hands.

Avoid this and remember delaying the marriage of a Girl is a very serious Sin , Kanya Paapam that would affect your family for generations, not with standing Sumangali Prarthnais.

Another issue is refusing sub sect marriages.

Sub-sects are based on Geographical locations where the ancestors have lived, like Mythili Brahmins hailed from Mithila, Vadamas in Tamil Nadu were from the North of the River Cauvery.

Some times Brahmin sub-sects are derived from the duties they were adept at. Adigas in Cooking, Vaathimaas in Purohitam,Vajpayees,Somayajees in performing a particular. yaga or yagnya

Among Brahmins there is no division of States or Languages either.

We follow the Vedas, period.No differences.

Let me narrate an incident when I visited Sringeri  and had performed Biksha Vandana for His Holiness Sri Bharathi Theertha Swamigal of The Sringeri Mutt.

As me and my wife neared the Acharya, the man who normally stands by his side asked me,

‘neevu kannadadhvara, Are you from Karnataka?’

I replied,

‘I am  Brahmin’

The Acharya heard this and asked  me to explain .

I said,

‘ I am a Brahmin by birth, not by Knowledge, but still a Brahmin for my ancestors have been good Brahmins .

My Mother tongue is Tamil,

As a Brahmin my father tongue is Sanskrit.

Therefore, it does not matter for a Brahmin which State he belongs to because He is a Brahmin”

The Acharya called the man and said,

‘Yajnayopaveeda aaki barubavarathra eethara kelu beda,

Do not these questions of those who come here with Yagnyopaveeda”(Sacred Thread)

That’s it.

Do not look for same sects, State, Language.

A Brahmin will do.

I observe that people conduct reception before the wedding day.

This is wrong.

If some one of the pair dies after Reception before marriage, what is the status of either of them?

The habit of clapping of hands after Mangalya Dharana, it is prohibited.

The habit of shaking hands with the couple after Mangalya Dharana  before Aseervatha is a Taboo.

In Hinduism . the ‘Handing Over’ Panigrahana is Sacred and the hands of the couple are not to be touched by others till Aseervatha.

Some more thoughts might follow.

94 responses to “Time For Brahmins To Change At Least in Marriages”

  1. Srihitha. Avatar

    And as You Said sir its true here few things feels me as related to me.

    ye sir.! My Dad is much intrsted in money n my income . now m nt working. n i daily gt scolded by my dad by being called useless . n he always compared me with othr girls . but he had nvr seen wat r thy doin in actual bck of thr parents.

    from my childhood on wards till today my dad hasn’t felt responsible towards me . i have sacrificed so mch n so mny things fr my family to b called as perfect daughter. nvr bck stabed thm. but still.

    my bro is well treated at my hom.

    he is gvn all the facilities. i hv nvr been burden on my parents i n my mom shared my education fees n she evn paid my bros.

    but my dad always tries to push me back.

    he use to fetch his hands every month bfr i gt my salary in to my hands.

    n so lik this neither thy or either could do anything for each othrs he always escape by taking up my responsibility . being a dad he hasn’t search fr a guy. n guys dnt want to marry with out dowry salary beauty. n the one who was been ok fr a while in my dads eyes now he is ntg in his eyes coz now he needs ntg frm tht guy.

    m nt allowed to mary whom i want. nor my father allows me to gt married.

    my dad keep on tells me to earn money n marriage is nothing . u cn marry at any time he says. or insults me saying ” What u have ma to gt u married ” .? r u blind u cnt see our situations he says.

    n most of the time he himself broked my alliance by approaching or by enquiring..

    now m 25 yrs lady n my dad still beats me . doesn’t help me. dnt luk fr my gud n bad things. till nw he didn’t gt me a single dress are celebrated my birthday.

    this mks me feel lonely hurt. he doesnt think abt my growing age . 🙁

  2. Srihitha. Avatar

    My story pls read .! and my family was suffering alot n we r nt at all rich . n all these so called brahmins cheated my dad who use to work in a Mutt n thy all Made him jobless for being honest hard worker n for refusing them to Give office money. n made us homeless ..

    but as thy say you will n u hv to pay for ur sins here only on tis earth in tis kaliyug proved as right .

    person who was Utaradhisharu died in a car accident. this person acted as per them n those who wer against to my dad n who made us homeless without seeing at our inocnt faces .

    so tell are thy brahmins.??

    and suddenly my dad got ill . and we begged for help every wer . in mutts . swamijis, hospitals. relations. Brahmin communities. but non of thm helped us a pie.

    we wer starving, alone lost.

    and we started to sufer even mor financially and physically too.

    and than suddenly a person entered in our lives who just blindly helped my falling dad in the hospital and later my mom without asking for our Cast . n he dnt even know who r we frm wr we hv com . n hw mny kids my parents has.

    and one day thr was been emergency and we were lik scared in new place no help ntg .

    and this guy has cm to hospital to Dispatch som ordrs thts given to him ( by the he is a medical distributor )
    and he just to of havin a luk at my dad .

    And he Saw My mom and bro in tension and fear n in tears Made him Worry n he went closer to the near by doc and asked wat was the matr n i was left to bring my dads reports n by the time i hv cm , i saw this guy wit my mom n bro the way he was consoling my aged mom and my little Brother touched my heart brot tears in my eyes . n for the first time i have felt as like m strong.

    my mom was like totally lost she forgt hm as lik stranger n she holded him n crying by sayin tht she is nervous confused n helpsless.

    and this guy made my calm down n brot tifns to eat. n paid treatment bill of my dad..

    in this generation nobody does this or did which he has done for Us Without Knowing Us Completely . with out asking For Any Guarantee He has Paid 2 Lakhs/- immediately on spot .

    and immediately he ran away to bring life saving injection to save my dad .

    This made be fall for him. he is not handsome , nor vry rich, he is not high salaried with safe job or govt employee.

    But has got rich heart.

    after one month he saw me fr the first time .

    n my mom introduced him to me.

    thts the time evn when he has fallen for me but he hasn’t Exprsd it for 4 yrs . n but these 4 yrs he took care of my whole family . house, fud ,clothes, everything, lk a elder son fr my family.

    he did everything for us .

    we all wer happy by seeing our lives.

    but as lik every story has an tragedy ending . even ours has cm to an end.

    and one fine day he exprsd his feelings to my parents and me .

    1st question wic we have asked him was his cast.

    n said see we r brahmins , so we cnt accept othr cast so wic is ur cast.??

    jus think hw bad we must be. we been so obedient to tht cast and people who hav not done anything to us n who has done everything to us with out knowing we are
    treated like anything.

    so he didn’t wanted to lose he Lied us as he is Gujarati brahmin. n my parents thot thank god u r a brahmin .

    N he said ok thn hw abt marriage i would lik to marry her so if u couples are ok wit me thn pls talk to ur daughter to confirm me he said … n my parents askd him thn hw abt ur family.? N he said m sorry my family is against but m not i and my close friends n thr families will com ..so u ppl dont wrry and i will only tk cre of all the expenses frm ur side also he said.

    No guy says this . Or understands this ..
    And my parents asked abt my opinion. N i was lik OMG..!!!!! without delayin a sec i have to Yes yes yess…!!! 😀 full happy ..

    But immediately my question was, to my parents was to wic cast he belongs to.!?

    And thy said hey he is also a brahmin itseems .

    N i was doubl happy .

    N marriage arrangements started n my dad said firstly will go wit registered marriage . And immediately we gt rdy n he n my parents wer at registered ofc waitin for me .

    N dnt knw wat was hapnd to me , bfr reachin thr i hd sum feelin sum strong intuitions in me killing me frm inside n forced me to confirm with his cast again ..

    N i said to him see pls dnt hide or cheat me any hw m gng to b ur wife now with in an hour so i dnt want to start our relationship with a lie or any strains so if i ask u something will u reply me honestly i asked . And he said hmmm.! Ok s i will pls ask wat is it he said.

    And i asked pls tell me to wic cast u belongs to ..????

    And he with little silence answered me. Iam not a brahmin ..

    N i was shock. Paused , stopped, breathless .

    And started to scold him .

    N thts it dint go to registered office . I hv been so bad to him .

    To tht person who looked at our all the daily needs to medical expense. Who fed us for 4 yrs i refused him fr nt being a brahmin.

    Cancelled registration n fr now its passed 2 years but still he hasnt stopped helping us indirectly and taking care of me wer ever i go.

    Peopl luk at me wit respct in thr eyes as saying Thangi
    ( Sister ) behen , bhabhi on roads nobody dares to tease me or atlst raise thr eyes and see me. Lik tht he created respect for me in the whole city of mine.!

    Aftr tht my we hv settled well n my parents started to search Groom for me aftr this incidence .

    N i hv met mor thn 7 guys . And aftr spkin to thm n meeting thm i hv been abl to find the real gem .. these people n thr mentalities made me to compare thm n him to ech othr to find the difference n humanity .

    These are of my cast but gud fr ntg.

    Thy want my salry to b gvn in thr hands . N no singl pie to b shared wit my parents. If i hv to share thn m rejected . N being a womn a grooms mothr sistr n brothr in law has told me lik aftr mrg girls shld think as thr parents are died n so siblings. U cnt share ur salary to thm coz u wil b fed by ur husbnd their family so u must gv mony to us thy said.

    N by listenin to this i felt of slapping thm tight. Made me shock. N also made me think of that person who did things fr us with out ny expectations

    N this non brahmin guy in reverse helped us without any expectations excpt me as in return.

    In this 7 guys one guys mom is so eager to gt his soon married. And her son is eagr in working women only n the girl whom he has shortlisted frm tm he need only xyz without marriage n dnt want to marry also coz i was nt wrkin at time. So i hv rejected tht guy by complainin abt him to his mothr.

    So now a days brahmin guys r fully fast fotward.

    Thy act smthin in front of a girl n infron of thr parents .

    N atlast who is blamed is a Girl .!!

    N this non brahmin guy nvr expctd this in tis 6 yrs abt such in return of his uncountable financial help.

    In this 7 guys parents n also guy thot as dowry is thr right to ask . N my parents duty to earn for giving birth a female girl.

    N spok vry vulgarly to my parents.

    N this non brahmin guy understod my parent’s situation and he himself was been rdy to bare both the sides of the expenses..

    So this bhvrs of othr cast guys are making thm to other casts ..

    I hv foud tht thrs no dfrnces in btween brahmin guys n thus non brahmins..

    N lik tis girls being lost. So its the mistk of our society, cheap mentalities, selfishness, jealous,
    Irresponsibility, negligence, Abuses, harassment’s, partialities.

    Adamant answers n response in every religion and cast ths type of gud n bad peopl exists bla bla and all heard alot

    and tis wt d answrs Making them to take such steps ..!

    N now m totally confused with wat shall i do.

    Shld i luk to our irresponsible community who thinks abt nobdy. Who thinks why we help othrs. Its thr karma. Y should y bcm united to fight fr poor Brahmin’s wit Govt.????

    And who blames thr community girls as a reason fr everything: ? Who thinks mkin a girl to study well will lead her to b Head weighted .??

    Or shld i think of this person who sudnly appeared as lik god and helped us lik anything without doing anything fr himslf..?????

    M confused.! N hurt for hurtin a human with heart.! 🙁

  3. Srihitha. Avatar

    Hi Everybody. People Who Ever com here n given their explanations against only Brahmin Girls Alone its for them..

    i know my comments will annoy u . but even I’m here to share some facts about Brahmin Community..

    so before i start up sharing my story i want You to read it with calm and understanding heart

    please kindly read With patience , you have got all your questions here.

    1st Fact is :- I’m Also A Brahmin .

    2nd Fact :- I Use To Feel Very Proud Of Being Brahmin.
    But after going through lots of research’s experience and after being abused by our own community for talking right

    3rd Fact :- Now I Feel Very Worst Of Being Born As Brahmin.

    4th Fact :- people who gives birth to male kid Joins him in to free veda patashalas and gets Education and gets him a Income source’s to Lead his Life by doing yagnyas homas and earns well from 5rs/- to 5Lakhs .!

    But What income sources had been Provided To a Girl Or for A Girl By our community’s or by our great Swamijis. Gurugolu. Muttadhishas.??

    5th Fact :- its not the mistake of brahmin girls alone who run away and marry other casts boys .

    6th Fact :- Brahmin Girls Are Fed up of All the partialities that’s done by their brahmin community in between girls and boys is making them Aggressive.!

    7th Fact :- You People who ever spoke against brahmin girls don’t even know what r thy going through with n their families.

    8th Fact :- You people will remember n recognize brahmin girls n their families only when you need a girl to marry , But not wen thy are in a Trouble, pain etc.

    9th Fact :-
    This is my personal views as like Everybody has their personal opinions to talk ..

    10th Fact :- things which u people have written here sum were made me feel as in every explanations of each one’s here is related to me ..!

    11th Fact :- People its not Only Girls Who is demanding For A Well To Do Guys Handsome, Rich, Good Salaried, Own Housed, n who earns Lakhs of Salaries .

    Even Guys are Doing it with the Brahmin Girls , No Compromises Are done . i myself have been rejected by Mor than 7 Brahmin Guys For Idiotic Reasons. n Guys still thy gt scared to open their mouths in front of their mothers.

    these 7 rejected me for not having Lots of money with us , For Unable to Afford Dowry, Marriage expenses, And For saying that i also want to support my family even after marriage , and fr being Wheatish in Color, fr being 42-48 KGS only . n few rejected me fr not being in a job.

    so you people tell me, wat els should i SPK abt such mentalities . I’m 5’7 slim wheatish n graduate. I’m confused with brahmin guys wit wat exactly they r lookin for.

    12th Fact :- Few brahmin guys are also there who r being aged above 30 or reaching 30 Expecting only For a Working Women , beautiful , wit good height, and Salary

    13 Fact :- Even Brahmin Guys are Doing Intercaste Marriages But That is OK Right As Here One Person Has Commented.!???

    in Brahmins Everything is OK With Boys anything, But not with Girls .! Here Girls and boys are equally responsible fr the things happening around. But Only Boys Are Supported, n Girls are neglected, Harassed, abused, thought them as sins,

    this thinking should change first. Respect our community girls n there poor families . guys n people who gave births to a Boy thinks as like thy have given birth to an lion and demands girls n there families at the time of marriage .

    thy Demand for Dowry , I would like to ask are thy real Brahmins .!?

    who expect things Heartlessly without looking at their situations of a poor girls and their families .

    and i ask why should we give Dowry’s ,? ? why should i give pain to my parents at their old ages when they are only in need of money for their treatments n medicines,.?

    Did these Groom and their parents have com to feed us at any time at least did thy come to console us when we are in pain,?

    Or did these Parents who has given birth to male kids have Booked me or reserved me from my parents while i was being born.??

    Why do these people dominate on us and put conditions On us whether we have to work or not after marriage and where n how much should i Share my salary , when its the matter of completely to my personal thinking, ambition, decision, Stamina , health and understanding.!?

    who are they to decide should i help my parents or not after marriage that who gave me birth , just like his mother by baring lots of pain , n when my mother also fed me the same colored milk just like his mother’s milk n when my also struggled for me to bring me this to this level.

    There’s No proper Employment in brahmins for Fathers , No Proper Salaries , no pensions schemes But Brahmin Grooms and Parents Need Highly Educated , Working Good salaried Brides.

    But Nobody thinks from where will these poor fathers can afford to get you We’ll settled Girls.

    and this mentalities girls are being aged and getting intercaste marriages.

    as one person has commented here aged reaching or reached 30’s or rejected can go for other inter cast marriages and Marry NB Girls which is absolutely not at all a wrong he said .

    Than that Means it should be OK With The Girls too right.!?

    Why Brahmin Girls Are Boycott For marrying other cast guys ..!?

    For you people when it comes to brahmin men’s everything is OK ,

    You can marry Non Brahmin who Ate everything and will eat , comes in to your family and community is ok she is respected but if the same act is done by girl Non Brahmin Husband Is Insulted..

    You want Non Brahmin Girls but Not Non Brahmin Brother’s Of That Girls Communities right..!??

    If this is the case than its very hard for you to get Non Brahmin Girls Also If You Cant Accept Non Brahmin Guy in Our Brahmin Community..!

    I don’t understand how com a girls originality of birth is decided.

    A brahmin girl is known as non brahmin girl if She marrys an non brahmin Guy , though when still Her blood is same from her parents is flowing and which flows until her death . So she still belongs to a brahmin Lineage. Only thing is her surname changes but not her births originality. Her Kids Blood Dfr but not hers .

    Than in which way U Reject her by being brahmin or by calling brahmin for marrying Non Brahmin .. a girl who had Only Non Veg of all types and still has got chances to eat even after marrying a Brahmin is Ok For You .. But Not the Girl of Your Brahmin Community is Accepted Nor Her Non Brahmin Husband is respected right. A Girl who hasn’t and who will never eat non veg but married Non Brahmin Is Refused and put out , but others r Accepted right.!?

    Really this great injustice only Stopping female brahmin kids to be born & 2 Run Away.

    Nobody Comes to help these families nor fights for them and even for their better lives .?

    people who gives birth to male kid Joins him in to free veda patashalas and gets him a Income source’s to Lead his Life.

    But girls has got no source of living.

    this Partiality is making them aggressive .

    So who is Responsible and who is to be blamed.

    1. Ananth Avatar
      Ananth

      Sorry madam… comparison of individual experience is not correct. And we should not blame total community. Place to place experience will differ. Who told you that Vedas are only for men? If you want to learn them…. struggle for it..and learn as much you want… Thank you.

    2. rhea stars Avatar
      rhea stars
  4. Srihitha. Avatar

    Hi Everybody.!

    1. usha prabhakaran Avatar
      usha prabhakaran

      Hi Srihitha ! are u still spinster? Is your family on the look out for a suitable match for you? then How old are you? My son is 32 years. MBA graduate, has a descent job and well settled. We do not need dowry in any manner. There are good groom and groom’s parents still exist in this world. Do not be disheartened. Instead of agreeing and disagreeing with every blog, as Brahmin knowing the values of our tradition and culture these few words are written here. If interested contact by email

      1. Neelima Avatar
        Neelima

        Hi,

        We have been looking matches for my brother since 4 years but materializing. My brother is very well educated, working in Microsoft since 5 years, earning good salary, looks good but things are not materializing. Girls parents keep dragging and give weird reasons or dont respond. My brother is 35 years old. Request Bride’s parents looking for marriage to contact me on neeluneels@gmail.com. We do not have much expectations. We want a simple girl from decent family and we dont expect any dowry.

        Regards,
        Neelima

  5. Jeyahar Avatar

    I just had a chance to visit this blog. Its very interesting to know the view point of many people with regard to the marriage. From my interaction & observations of the present society, especially with Brahmins, western influences have totally corrupted our thinking, with many brahmin guys & girls working abroad. I have observed that boys or girls once they start earning in lakhs (either in India or abroad), they start to put higher conditions forgetting their earlier status. It works on both sides. I have noted that girls prefer a guy who earns handsomely (should be in lakhs per month), should be educated in a premier institute, working in a big MNC, prefarably in IT sector with chance of relocating abroad, should be a nuclear family and the guys parents to live separately after marriage (girls parents would stay with couple), should be tall (minimum 5.10′) and the age difference not more than 2-3 years…….the boy has his own preferences, preferences like, the girl earning, but at the same time homely & taking care of the household. Everyone have their own preferences…..but unfortunately life is cruel and life demands adjustment / flexibility. In life, we adjust / flexible with others…but when it comes to marriage, we have rigid stances which ultimately lead to late marriages i.e after 30’s. I read (not here, but somewhere) that argued that brahmin girls should not be educated beyond a point as the education spoils them!! I would rather disagree with such crap..but education should make a person more knowledgeable and understand the intricacies of life. Education should make a person more humane, but unfortunately that’s not happening…rather education makes a girl / boy more rigid in their thoughts…the parents do contribute their bit!!! I would rather advocate inter-caste marriages if brahmin boys remain unmarried even in their late 30’s. Rather than remain single (and inadvertently) and contribute to dwindling brahmin population, it would be good if brahmin guys go for inter-caste marriages. It takes two hands to clap, so if the brahmin girls are not ready to marry brahmin boy, then naturally inter-caste marriages would be a solution!! It also helps by bringing other caste into brahmin community and helps in increasing the numbers!! I know many would not accept this, but then we have to be practical, rather than sitting on our ego!!! Also from my experiences, i have found non-brahmin girls to be more accommodative, understanding, even if they are earning (or not). I have known one of my friends marrying a non-brahmin girl. The guy was doing a normal job but remained unmarried and was feeling exasperated. He had a chance to meet a NB girl who was a Doctor. They liked each other and are now living happily after marriage. But the same guy was rejected by Brahmin girls with excuses ranging from low-paying job, not looking handsome and all such usual excuses. So what’s wrong if the guy chooses a NB girl when he has no other option left!!! It may be ideal if got a brahmin girl, but when the situation demands, we have to do it. Just imagine, what would be the demands of a Brahmin Girl who happens to be a Doctor?? They would demand only a Doctor (or high profession) as her partner. Many fail to realize that money is not only aspect to a happy marriage life, its only a part, but is not the main part. Its a complete humbug that only a highly-educated, high earning, rich, tall & handsome guy would keep a girl happy, no, its not!!! It’s all in the mind….!!! Just imagine if all the brahmin girls or the guys start to insist that only a person who is more or less equal to their status would be preferred as their spouse, It would only lead to girls/guys remaining unmarried…..!!!

    1. ramanan50 Avatar

      Perceptive.However I do not think intercaste marriage by Brahmins will solve the issue.The issue is that of present Boys/Girls perspective.This seems to be the case in all Castes, I have been informed so,I wrote from the Brahmin perspective as I am a Brahmin and I am better informed of the issues.

      1. Jeyahar Avatar

        Yeah….its true, it’s the perception of the person involved, but then if it’s a good perception, we can appreciate it, but if the perception is obnoxious then we have to criticize it. Everybody have their own preferences. I’m also a Brahmin, but seeing present day Brahmin society, I feel disgusted at the way the Brahmins have degraded….just the way the whole Indian society has degraded, Brahmin society has followed the overall trend, which is rather unfortunate. We may disagree and may argue that we are still good…but alas, I’m afraid that facts prove otherwise. In those earlier days, the Brahmins gave importance to the family, ability of boy & girl, character etc in deciding marriage. Yeah, certain things like Horoscope matching & a dowry (if not widespread, atleast in part) were also followed. So if the girl’s star was ayilyam, moolam, kettai etc considered inauspicious and girls born in those stars found it hard to marry (in earlier days). Thankfully, we have moved away from such things, though not fully. But then certain bad things went away and new bad things have taken its place i.e giving too much importance to money, education, materialistic things. I consider its a NEO-UNTOUCHABILITY………..
        Yes, perception changes & everybody practices what’s best for them, but then many people consume alcohol, smoke, steal and do all such things, but will we call it good?? Since many people do such things, will we encourage them?? Will we make them mainstream?? There is LGBT community and will we encourage them?? I guess many would not like to encourage such things!!! I just hope that Brahmin community too changes itself for the better.
        You wrote that in other communities too, this materialistic aspect has found itself entrenched. Yes, it happens in other communities too, but in a smaller way. From my personal experiences, it would say its in the ratio of 80:20, with majority of the girls/boys preferring & marrying lesser to do alliances!!! But if we take Brahmin community, I’m afraid it will be 5:95% with hardly 5% of girls / boys agreeing to do such alliances. In my apartment complex, I have seen many young / new couples of NB community who solidify my argument. One of the couples, the guy is just a DME & earning around 35K per month now and the girl has done B.E and worked in CTS earning more than the guy, now she is not working and is a home-maker. Naturally 3-4 years back, the guy would have earned around less than what he earns now. But still they have qualms in accepting such marriages (they are not family related). Likewise in another couple, the guy is an Electrical Diploma and earns around 12K but the girl has done B.Pharm & MBA and is working as HR earning 40K. Still they are happy to be married. Same way a guy working in IT company earning 50K but the girl was just a graduate and does not work. So in a NB community, whether they marry within their close family or marry outside, they are not adamant on their preferences and are flexible. Just the take the case of one of my staff who married a few weeks back, he earns around 13K and is a graduate, the girl is also a graduate but works in Reliance, earns 25K and they did not feel anything wrong in going ahead in such marriages!!! I know not everyone from NB community are doing like that, I observed majority do such things.
        But the same can’t be said about the Brahmin community. If the girl earns 50K, then it’s a must that the boy should have atleast a lakh as salary!!! Likewise if the guys earns 75K, then the girl must have done atleast B.E and earn 40K…!!! I know there are exceptions to my observation….but then its just an aberration to the rule!!! Yes, even in my family I have come across girls who married guys who were lesser compared to them. But that was some years back, I don’t think that may happen now!!! My younger cousin worked in Infy and got married 10 years back, she earned 75K at that time, but still opted for a guy who earned 1/3 of herself. She wanted a guy who was simple & from good family background. She knew exactly what she was doing. Also another girl from my father’s friend who worked as a scientist researcher was happy to marry a lesser to do guy…..But these type of girls are rather an exception!!!
        A month back, I met a typewriter mechanic who used to come to my previous office. I met him after years. We enquired about each other’s well being. He was looking for his daughter marriage. The girl is in mid 20’s. He was complaining that he finds it difficult in getting the right groom. The girl has done her graduation and works in an auditing firm and she is writing for her Accountancy exams & earns around 10K. Their expectation was that the guy should be Chennai based only. If the guy owns a home, then the salary should be minimum 40K and if he doesn’t own, then he should be earning 60K!!!! And in some cases where they found some acceptable matches, the horoscope does not match. And there was a guy who horoscope matched to the “T”, but he earns just 20K working in scope and does not own a house!!! So he complained that they find guys who earn more than 75K (in IT field) but they insist on the girl to be earning atleast 30K (&professional education is a must). And he was blasting such fellows!!! Now this is the classic case of Pot calling the Kettle black!!! This is where the exact problem lies!!! They want other side to compromise while they themselves are rigid in their approach….!!!
        I suggested Inter-caste marriage as an option when the guy (or girls) fail to find matches even after they crossed 30’s. Especially for people who are approaching 40’s. Rather than remaining single all their life, it would be better to get married even if its from other caste. I would like to share the exciting story of my friend…!!! He was my college colleague and we used to be in touch once-in-a while, though not regular. Being from Brahmin community, he was from a lower middle class who came-up in life the hard way. He worked in HR though not a great pay at that time. His family started to look out for alliance in his late 20’s. But they failed to find with majority of the girls rejecting with all such usual excuses, low pay, not B.E (now this makes me extremely angry, that’s ridiculous), not having a own house……At that time, I met him and suggested him to register in matrimonial sites and choose the ‘Caste No Bar’ option. He was worried that it may not work. I made fun of him saying that already you are in mid 30’s now and it seems you are going to do 60’th year ceremony (அறுபதாம் கல்யாணம் ) rather marrying now…!! He was angry with me for poking at him. I got the chance to meet after a year or so, he said he was married!!! He promised to share the details later as we did not had time, but when he shared, it was interesting. So after some hesitation he registered with a matrimony site and opted for caste no bar, he started getting interests from NB girls. He was afraid of his parents reaction. But with no option left, he told his parents. All hell broke loose, but then when he challenged them to find the girl from Brahmin community, they had no other option to fall in line. And he got an interest from a girl of another religion!!! (That too from a rigid religion). He did not respond for a while, but then one day decided to be bold enough. So they met and he found girl to be to his liking. Though the girl was working in IT field earning fat pay than him (more than triple), she was ready for such marriage. Obviously the girl’s family was a progressive one, with some of her brothers marrying inter-religion (though not all of them). After much persuasion, he was able to convince his parents and now the guy is married with two kids!!! The most beautiful part was that the girl embraced brahminical customs & traditions and respects his parents with them living joint-family!!! Now my friend is doing well in life, he switched jobs and now earns good salary!!! He said that he is lucky and even Brahmin girls would not be so good if he had chosen to marry a Brahmin Girl..!!! (Just his experience & opinion)…..I not castigating every Brahmin girl, there are definitely good girls (or boys) who exist there…..but as per the present trend they are in minority. Even my sister married after her 30, but having learnt astrology she was adamant that she will marry after 30, but she never put so many conditions and in fact rejected IT field guys, so when my sister got married after she just crossed 30, my brother in-law was in his early 30’s. My BIL also shared the same case of not finding a good Brahmin girl with so many girls rejecting him one pretext or the other. My BIL was only average earning , but my sister never considered it as a drawback….she was very clear what she was looking…!!!
        Many would not agree to my observation, but i’m ready for a challenge. Go to a matrimony site, register the brahmin guy’s age in between 29-33, choose annual income between 2L – 3L, choose PG (but not professional qualification) as the education, choose lower middle class (or middle class) option, choose ‘brahmin community’ as your preferred partner, then i can guarantee that such a profile will not elicit a single interest from Brahmin girls!!! I’m ready to put my neck on this!!! But in the same profile, choose, “caste no bar” option, just watch how many interests you generate!!! I can guarantee a minimum of 10 interests from NB girls, with 2 of them from lower middle class(girls with just a decent education & pay), 5 of them with girls who are in Mid range, 2 from NB girls who are either rich or working in IT fields!!!! So where is the fault lies?? A guy who is found ineligible by Brahmin girls is found acceptable by NB girls even if both the Brahmin Girl & NB girl have similar education / work / status!!! So to whom we have to blame?? {You also check out by registering for a Brahmin girl with above attributes}
        The problem with the present generation is that they feel only they are right & superior and all others are inferior…..alas, that’s not the way…..Education & knowledge is different…..Education has not inculcated the right attributes/character to our boys & girls. It has made them to be rigid & super-egoistic!!! for proof, take the case of Divorces which is increasing alarmingly. Whenever I meet some of my relatives in a marriage (or when they visit our home), the usual question is what are you doing?? How is your job?? When I reply that I doing so & so job & is into organic farming additionally, the usual reaction is that they would think lowly about me as if they have jumped from heaven!!! Especially of parents who son or daughter is settled abroad, they would immediately exclaim that his son/daughter is working so & so and is working abroad….i just to wonder what’s wrong with these people!!! (இதுல என்ன தற்பெருமை வேண்டி இருக்கு) , (may be they are all eating chips, keyboards, mouse etc for their food!!!) afterall, atleast I’m independent, employ people, have my own business, do charity, happily doing agriculture and it gives me immense satisfaction in whatever I do. Thankfully my family supports me, but then actually I should be making fun-of-these people, with most of these NRI Brahmins working as a cyber coolies or corporate coolies (“Word courtesy, Shr.C.N.R Rao, Bharat Ratna”). But I never reply to them, just smile at them. Because for me, ‘செய்யும் தொழிலே தெய்வம்”, and I remain grounded….i’m just reminded of the tamil proverb “நிறைகுடம் தளும்பாது, குறைகுடம் கூத்தாடும்”….
        I’m not here to castigate or ridicule anyone, but I just wanted to share some of my experiences……I may be right or wrong…..but I try to live honestly to the extent its possible, though I’m not perfect…!!!

      2. madhu Avatar

        What will happen if you people do inter caste why that much orthodox is very dangerous. because your gals and boys will become enjoy before marriage and marry of the parents choice. This is very wrong sir am sufferering like anything just because i loved a gal later i came to know that she is from brahmin communtiy was into relationship for 1 and half year. and now she is telling that her parents wont accept our marriage. What is this sir. My parents and me and entires family is suffering just because am not able to remove her from my mind. Am near to 30 now. This is the way people will behave they will tell brahmin. Its about character not about caste. Even i have enough money and get 70k salary oh god when u will change this brahmins. Mama krishna swamy joshi why i met your daughter and y i loved her without knowing caste. Whats there at your sons marriage who was in love vid gal and u married him to brahmin gal. Please guys if u wanna reply me back (ssmadhu2006@gmail.com)

    2. Agaram Avatar

      Sometimes, I feel that these matrimonial sites should be banned. Simple fact: by giving choices in the drop down menu (color, height, salary bracket, caste, choices… More choices) Isn’t it turning out like ordering something from the menu!? Man innately is greedy even of he does not admit-tendency of any choice – prompts the brain to chose the top on pyramid. Even monkeys do that…. Marriages I suppose were more simple and easy before the Internet era. Our parents are live examples! You will seldom find aging singles amongst people born in 50s or 60s..percentage is very less! More demands are created by passively influencing information Web world era…90‰of our discretion is derived from WWW.

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