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Time For Brahmins To Change At Least in Marriages

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Brahmins have been a closely knit community.

There are other communities which are more closely knit than the Brahmins, say, the Nattukkottai Nagarathar Community.

As I am a Brahmin by birth, a proud one for being so,I deem it fit to record some unpleasant facts, especially  regarding marriages, in our Community.

Some of my observations are likely to hurt but some one has to say them.

I am aware that I will be criticized very severely, for no body is a biter critic of a Brahmin than a fellow Brahmin, much in the same way as the Jews,

Marriages,

I searched for an alliance for my son for over three and half years before I got him married.

I had utilized all avenues from the traditional circulation of Horoscopes to registering in Matrimonial Sites,

There is a tendency among most of the parents, whose daughter’s are employed, and more so if they have only one daughter:

That of postponing the marriage of their daughters as long as possible.

The reasons they cite are,,

The girl does not want to marry now,

She needs to be independent for some time, earning well to enable her to stand on her feet,

The arguments are fallacious.

No Girl or Boy will come to their parents and declare that they want to marry and ask them to look for a suitable spouse.

They would be coy in admitting the fact that it is time for them to get married.

I am excluding those children who come and declare that they are in love with some one(normally with one from another caste: even this I attribute to the fact of parents delaying the marriage on one pretext or another.

As parents it is our responsibility to advise them the advantages of getting married at an early age, the reasons being,

a ) If you are looking for the Best looking woman or Man, remember that the opposite side also does the same and each has the privilege of rejecting.

b) You do not get any younger and it would be tougher to get a match as time marches on.

And taking  children’s views of not wanting to get married has few serious consequences for parents as well.

I know of a couple of cases, where the parents have stopped looking for alliances because  their children said so.

These parents, they are my close friends,took their children’s views seriously and stopped looking for a match.

Now the boys are past 35.
They have stopped speaking with their parents thought they stay in the same house and are alright in all other respects.

As i can closely mingle with the younger set as a friend, this is with my own children as well, I understood from them that they are cross that their parents have not finalised their marriages!

They are sore that their parents have taken their views seriously!

Now I am looking for alliances for them along with their parents.

Lesson- go about alliances notwithstanding your children’s objections and record them.

If they refuse, show them the records , that would keep them on their toes.

Another repulsive habit of parents of brides insisting that thee Bride groom must be in the city were the girls’ parents live!

The girls might agree to it for the time being , would regret later when they find they remain unmarried for  long.

Children have their lives to led, be it a Boy or Girl.

Another obnoxious habit is that some parents are reluctant to get their daughters married because they will lose their daughter’s salary!

This is a fact and I have , in two instances told the parents of the Girls if they want only money they should not have begotten children!

I may point out a curious fact.

Please check Tamil matrimony marriage site, find out how many girls’ profile have been uploaded by the Girls themselves/their friends as against the profiles uploaded by Parents.

You will find personal/friends uploads will be in the age group of over 27.

The reason is parents keep on refusing Alliances on some spurious ground or another and at the age of 27 or 28 the girl starts taking her life into their hands.

Avoid this and remember delaying the marriage of a Girl is a very serious Sin , Kanya Paapam that would affect your family for generations, not with standing Sumangali Prarthnais.

Another issue is refusing sub sect marriages.

Sub-sects are based on Geographical locations where the ancestors have lived, like Mythili Brahmins hailed from Mithila, Vadamas in Tamil Nadu were from the North of the River Cauvery.

Some times Brahmin sub-sects are derived from the duties they were adept at. Adigas in Cooking, Vaathimaas in Purohitam,Vajpayees,Somayajees in performing a particular. yaga or yagnya

Among Brahmins there is no division of States or Languages either.

We follow the Vedas, period.No differences.

Let me narrate an incident when I visited Sringeri  and had performed Biksha Vandana for His Holiness Sri Bharathi Theertha Swamigal of The Sringeri Mutt.

As me and my wife neared the Acharya, the man who normally stands by his side asked me,

‘neevu kannadadhvara, Are you from Karnataka?’

I replied,

‘I am  Brahmin’

The Acharya heard this and asked  me to explain .

I said,

‘ I am a Brahmin by birth, not by Knowledge, but still a Brahmin for my ancestors have been good Brahmins .

My Mother tongue is Tamil,

As a Brahmin my father tongue is Sanskrit.

Therefore, it does not matter for a Brahmin which State he belongs to because He is a Brahmin”

The Acharya called the man and said,

‘Yajnayopaveeda aaki barubavarathra eethara kelu beda,

Do not these questions of those who come here with Yagnyopaveeda”(Sacred Thread)

That’s it.

Do not look for same sects, State, Language.

A Brahmin will do.

I observe that people conduct reception before the wedding day.

This is wrong.

If some one of the pair dies after Reception before marriage, what is the status of either of them?

The habit of clapping of hands after Mangalya Dharana, it is prohibited.

The habit of shaking hands with the couple after Mangalya Dharana  before Aseervatha is a Taboo.

In Hinduism . the ‘Handing Over’ Panigrahana is Sacred and the hands of the couple are not to be touched by others till Aseervatha.

Some more thoughts might follow.

94 responses to “Time For Brahmins To Change At Least in Marriages”

  1. sandeep kumar Avatar

    Sir,
    what you have written is fact that happening on the ground unlike my parents generation now getting married even for boys is big deal ..and if i tell anything against girls i will be branded anti -feminist etc and worst part is due to influence of films girls now keep saying No and even much after the age u mentioned they will keep finding some fault in guys .. i agree about the horoscope part maybe we Brahmins give too much importance to it but we are getting stuck between modernity and tradition

    1. ramanan50 Avatar

      Not ll Girls are of this type,in most cases it is aren’t induced for fear of losing their daughter’s pay pocket.
      If you know a girl of our community, need not be affluent and has no such demands the boy nd the girl should pressurize parents and get married.To day boys and girls enegage in discussions on everything openly including sex.
      Why no an open discussion as a group of boys and girls on this?
      What I say may sound heretic but action has to be taken as it the Life of boys, Girls and the welfare of the community.
      Regds

  2. n. ramaswami Avatar
    n. ramaswami

    while it is true that sometimes parents do postpone the marriage of their girls on silly(!) reasons like let them complete their professional course, see neighbour how she or he is suffering after marriage etc. and think their daughters should be near them the girls are eager to get marriaged and it becomes very difficult to find matches after a certain age. is it because the girl tries to be independent and so puts conditions or is it because the boy wants the girl to be a continuous instalment payer of dowry, by way of her monthly salary!!! both seem to be wrong and a certain amount of compromise is required. adjustability before and after the marriage is the crux and boys and girls should know this first.

    1. Agaram Avatar

      Sometimes, over secured feelings will never let anyone take a leap of faith or plunge to unknown world.
      I am not inclined towards the west more-but there are a few good things to note. Children/teens at certain age are on their own. The sense of insecurity will make them bond with people & make relationships. Well, am only casting on the psychological aspect here, not that we must follow West!! But don’t you agree that couched emotional security that one derives from his/parents even beyond late age will cause none of them to break this comfort to choose or even look for a companion? I have personally experienced this* home bound & self satisfied emotionally, contented home ties-which never allows to prepare for something other than obvious! Just my view!

  3. Alok Avatar
    Alok

    When I read this article, i felt someone is writing about me. Many parents are afraid of loosing their peace (risk of a bad daugther in law coming).. and hence postpone marriages will silly reasons..

  4. Arun Prem Avatar

    I completely disagree with your views and I regard this as total crap.

    Your views on marriage seems to be out of frustation about searching bride for your son for three and half years. Just think how many (false) reasons you would have told to many of the bride proposals. Regarding the daughters’ salary, why don’t you, grooms’ parents accept to give the bride’s salary, or at least a part of it to her parents after marriage?

    And you say “Among Brahmins there is no division of States or Languages either”. I wonder then why you divide on caste and religion. If ‘any brahmin girl’ will do, ‘any girl’ will do.

    1. ramanan50 Avatar

      You are entitled to your opinion. Indian Girl
      As to para no 2,plase read some of my posts under Hinduism, Lifestyle or the latest one ‘South Marrying North Indian Girl
      Thank you

    2. kumuda4 Avatar

      what ever you told correct.
      In that article so many mistake they told about bride grooms.
      1) Now a days Boy’s parents expecting Daughter-in-law salary. But Girls parents will not expect anything from daughter.
      2) Girls parents will do grand marriage but boys parents after the marriage they are not giving good love and safety for daughter-in-law
      3) Boys parents always only think about them daughters. But they will not think about daughter-in-law’s parents.

  5. arvenkatiyer Avatar

    The article is like a mirror on the present day where such things are still going on due to poor knowledge adaptation by girls in Brahmin’s homes.It is reflecting today’s problems and many girls unmarried even when they are in 35-40 yrs age also.
    They have to learn to make their own standards and live life but not go crazy after money and then regret later.Today girls parents are withholding marriage to get salaries of the girls but also indirectly put an requirement that the boy marrying her should be earning in Lakhs to crores of rupees.-this means he should be very rich to splurge in money for an wife.
    Surprising isn’t it as one lady did ask us when we approached them that they are interested in her daughter getting married to those earning 80 lakhs to Rs 1 cr.
    Another excuse now found is that when we contact them with boy’s details they ask us all id’s etc.Later when contacting on progress in horoscope checks etc we get standard replies like”Astrologer is out of station and it will take time”or astrologer says it does not match.
    After all it is the boy and girl who will have to mutually understand and with some astro support from parents learn to make an living but this is forgotten.
    Another funny thing is now going on -Girls may be only 5ft or 5′-6″but they are looking for tall boys who are 6 ft or 6′-8″- maybe making spondylitis an marriage life need as she will have to always look up and strain her neck-Doctors can have an good business!!!!
    But oone fact remains- we all should expect more brahmin spinsters and start an retirement homes for them when their parents leave them spinsters and no support on old age- reason is they created their own graves?????

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