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Time For Brahmins To Change At Least in Marriages

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Brahmins have been a closely knit community.

There are other communities which are more closely knit than the Brahmins, say, the Nattukkottai Nagarathar Community.

As I am a Brahmin by birth, a proud one for being so,I deem it fit to record some unpleasant facts, especially  regarding marriages, in our Community.

Some of my observations are likely to hurt but some one has to say them.

I am aware that I will be criticized very severely, for no body is a biter critic of a Brahmin than a fellow Brahmin, much in the same way as the Jews,

Marriages,

I searched for an alliance for my son for over three and half years before I got him married.

I had utilized all avenues from the traditional circulation of Horoscopes to registering in Matrimonial Sites,

There is a tendency among most of the parents, whose daughter’s are employed, and more so if they have only one daughter:

That of postponing the marriage of their daughters as long as possible.

The reasons they cite are,,

The girl does not want to marry now,

She needs to be independent for some time, earning well to enable her to stand on her feet,

The arguments are fallacious.

No Girl or Boy will come to their parents and declare that they want to marry and ask them to look for a suitable spouse.

They would be coy in admitting the fact that it is time for them to get married.

I am excluding those children who come and declare that they are in love with some one(normally with one from another caste: even this I attribute to the fact of parents delaying the marriage on one pretext or another.

As parents it is our responsibility to advise them the advantages of getting married at an early age, the reasons being,

a ) If you are looking for the Best looking woman or Man, remember that the opposite side also does the same and each has the privilege of rejecting.

b) You do not get any younger and it would be tougher to get a match as time marches on.

And taking  children’s views of not wanting to get married has few serious consequences for parents as well.

I know of a couple of cases, where the parents have stopped looking for alliances because  their children said so.

These parents, they are my close friends,took their children’s views seriously and stopped looking for a match.

Now the boys are past 35.
They have stopped speaking with their parents thought they stay in the same house and are alright in all other respects.

As i can closely mingle with the younger set as a friend, this is with my own children as well, I understood from them that they are cross that their parents have not finalised their marriages!

They are sore that their parents have taken their views seriously!

Now I am looking for alliances for them along with their parents.

Lesson- go about alliances notwithstanding your children’s objections and record them.

If they refuse, show them the records , that would keep them on their toes.

Another repulsive habit of parents of brides insisting that thee Bride groom must be in the city were the girls’ parents live!

The girls might agree to it for the time being , would regret later when they find they remain unmarried for  long.

Children have their lives to led, be it a Boy or Girl.

Another obnoxious habit is that some parents are reluctant to get their daughters married because they will lose their daughter’s salary!

This is a fact and I have , in two instances told the parents of the Girls if they want only money they should not have begotten children!

I may point out a curious fact.

Please check Tamil matrimony marriage site, find out how many girls’ profile have been uploaded by the Girls themselves/their friends as against the profiles uploaded by Parents.

You will find personal/friends uploads will be in the age group of over 27.

The reason is parents keep on refusing Alliances on some spurious ground or another and at the age of 27 or 28 the girl starts taking her life into their hands.

Avoid this and remember delaying the marriage of a Girl is a very serious Sin , Kanya Paapam that would affect your family for generations, not with standing Sumangali Prarthnais.

Another issue is refusing sub sect marriages.

Sub-sects are based on Geographical locations where the ancestors have lived, like Mythili Brahmins hailed from Mithila, Vadamas in Tamil Nadu were from the North of the River Cauvery.

Some times Brahmin sub-sects are derived from the duties they were adept at. Adigas in Cooking, Vaathimaas in Purohitam,Vajpayees,Somayajees in performing a particular. yaga or yagnya

Among Brahmins there is no division of States or Languages either.

We follow the Vedas, period.No differences.

Let me narrate an incident when I visited Sringeri  and had performed Biksha Vandana for His Holiness Sri Bharathi Theertha Swamigal of The Sringeri Mutt.

As me and my wife neared the Acharya, the man who normally stands by his side asked me,

‘neevu kannadadhvara, Are you from Karnataka?’

I replied,

‘I am  Brahmin’

The Acharya heard this and asked  me to explain .

I said,

‘ I am a Brahmin by birth, not by Knowledge, but still a Brahmin for my ancestors have been good Brahmins .

My Mother tongue is Tamil,

As a Brahmin my father tongue is Sanskrit.

Therefore, it does not matter for a Brahmin which State he belongs to because He is a Brahmin”

The Acharya called the man and said,

‘Yajnayopaveeda aaki barubavarathra eethara kelu beda,

Do not these questions of those who come here with Yagnyopaveeda”(Sacred Thread)

That’s it.

Do not look for same sects, State, Language.

A Brahmin will do.

I observe that people conduct reception before the wedding day.

This is wrong.

If some one of the pair dies after Reception before marriage, what is the status of either of them?

The habit of clapping of hands after Mangalya Dharana, it is prohibited.

The habit of shaking hands with the couple after Mangalya Dharana  before Aseervatha is a Taboo.

In Hinduism . the ‘Handing Over’ Panigrahana is Sacred and the hands of the couple are not to be touched by others till Aseervatha.

Some more thoughts might follow.

94 responses to “Time For Brahmins To Change At Least in Marriages”

  1. pr subramanian Avatar
    pr subramanian

    I am ashamed of having born as brahmin. Because of the attrocities they have committed to ladies and still committing ti ladies. many moolam and ayilyam star girls are remaining unmarried. We had shaven their hairs even at the tender age of 10/12 because their husband died immediately after marriage. Our Acharyals do not give darsan to widows who have not removed the hairs on their head. If they continue to have the tilak that is considered a great papa. These acharyals are a curse to the larger Hindu community.

    1. ramanan50 Avatar

      I agree.There were inhuman practices followed and this needs correction. I discussed this with my Guru Sri Abhinava Vidyatheertha Swamigal of Sringeri and he too condemns these practices.I have a couple of posts on this under Hinduism/
      No need to castigate oneself.
      we should correct these based on the Sruthi which is clear.
      Please note I am talking about Sruthi and not Smritis.
      Regds

  2. nataraj Avatar
    nataraj

    as the english saying goes when wealth is lost nothing is lost invariably in all the stories it starts once upon a time there lived a poor brahmin he was poor but he was respected eg krishna respected sudhama as he was a practicing brahmin. when health is lost something is lost brahmin slowly started losing his tapas so the down slide started .when character is lost every thing is lost the very character of brahmin is indriya nigrahana remaining rooted to this principle instead he started thinking about worldly pleasure which is what we r seeing today.thats why todays brahmin is taunted even though he is no more a poor brahmin. in my view varna dharma is a management principle of the highest order with the highest ideal of real social equality and freedom within their respective parameters.even a gentle breeze can induce a ripple in the water surface which then travels across the entire surface.so even slightest indiscipline can induce the ripple of social disorder in waterbody called society filled with the water called varna dharma.thats why its said dharmo rakshati rakshitaha.

    1. ramanan50 Avatar

      Kanchi Periyavar said that the moment Brahmins changed their lifestyle going after the jobs offered by the British, he had forsaken his respect and standing in the community.
      I am in total agreement with this view.
      Having said that it may be noted that it was the other communities which supported the Brahmins before long by taking care of his earthly needs while he was praying for their welfare.
      I am unable to determine at which point of time or who left their Dharma first.
      Brahmins had to fend for themselves. They too have families . So they might have looked for other modes of Living,
      This may not be ideal but practicalities need to be taken into account. At least from now, those who are reasonably well placed may practice what the Sruthi says and encourage poor Brahmins to dissuade them from leaving their Varna Dharma.
      Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

  3. V RAVI Avatar
    V RAVI

    I do appreciate your concern. Almost everyone had the same who had gone near Acharya; Its eiher way of of course Money power plays most in the Mutts. Its high time Our Brahmins in totality has to come together hand in hand i helping each other which is missing now.Your blogs are really appealing &
    arresting attention .And you r ominipreset

    1. ramanan50 Avatar

      Thanks .
      Regds

  4. NS Avatar
    NS

    Hello,

    This is my first visit to your blog. You have some wonderful articles here. I do not know much about caste system etc. but I try to learn and follow the tenets of my caste. My family (and my caste) has taught me so many valuable things. For example, we are vegetarians. When I was in college some of my friends would tell me that they do some kind of pooja and they take only vegetarian food during those days. For them, it was a big deal- to thrive on vegetarian diet for a few days and they would ask me how I manage to avoid non-vegetarian foods!

    Like this, there are so many things that each caste can teach. These days, people talk about destroying caste system and bringing about “equality”. If people busy themselves in destroying castes they also end up destroying the good, beautiful things that each caste has. Besides, people who talk about destroying caste system are (in my observation) invariably those who lack the discipline to stick to rules and want to roam free. Since they think caste imposes rules and creates conflicts, they want to destroy caste and religion.They don’t see that, even without the caste/religion, there is bound to be some kind of groupism or the other among people. Where there is groupism, there will still be conflicts! All conflicts will end only when all is realized to be One. As human beings, we have to do our everyday sadhana in progressing spiritually. When the focus is thus shifted, we would see that caste or religion is not a barrier after all and that they are there to aid us in our spiritual path. Until then, I think it is better not to flout the rules laid down by our religion/caste.

    A request: Please do write your views about vegetarianism and abstinence from drinking. These days, people look down upon us when they hear us say that we don’t take meat or drink.

    1. ramanan50 Avatar

      I shall be posting on Caste new article.
      You may also look up for more on Caste under Indian Philosophy in the blog.
      On Vegetarianism and drinking I have a few post filed under Lifestyle.
      I shall post some more.
      You might also refer to my post on the Food habits as explained by Lord Krishna, under Indian Philosophy, Hinduism.
      Thanks for dropping by.
      Regards.

  5. mghipparagi Avatar

    hello,

    your article really inspired me to write this feed back. I have many Brahmin girls turning their faces out of Brahmin caste. I do not know why these girls do not have any interest in learning the values hidden in their caste.

    Talking about the caste is projected as caste ism now a day…. I am also a Brahmin and if I say some thing more about Madhwacharya or sandhyavandana, a few people see me as if I am supporting castism. However I do not support inter caste marriages because of my own reasons…

    Please also write something on this.

    very thankful to you.

    Manoj

    1. ramanan50 Avatar

      I believe that Caste is the best system available. I do not advocate inter caste marriages either,. I will be writing shortly on Brahmins and Untouchability, Caste.

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