Tag: Kanchi Periyavar

  • Kanchi Periyavar Warning Telegram Rajiv Gandhi Assassination

    There is a news item that the Kanchi Periyavar sent a telegram to PMO’s office, on the impending danger to Rajiv Gandhi‘s Life, in March 1981.

     

    This was before Rajiv Gandhi’s assassination in May 1981.

     

    Lotus feet of Kanchi Periyavar.Image.jpg.
    Lotus feet of Kanchi Periyavar.

     

     

    ““..Dear Sri Rajiv,there’s a serious threat to your life in the month of May in Tamil Nadu..Please do not visit this state during May,1991..If you still have a compelling reason to do so,please visit the Kanchi Math first and seek the divine blessings of His Holiness Sri Sankara Bhagawatpada and then go ahead with your tour of Tamil Nadu..””

     

    This , the report claims, that the PMO did not take seriously.

     

    I cross checked the information.

     

    There is no evidence either confirming or denial.

     

    Hoax Slayer also has no information on this.

     

    Kanchi Mutt can clear the air.

     

    On a midnight some time during the month of March,1991..

    A telegram delivery boy hurriedly walked into former India prime minister Rajiv Gandhi’s personal secretariat…He delivered an urgent telegram paper to an authorized person there…He later asked that person to immediately hand it over to Rajiv Gandhi..

    That telegram was sent by the office of His Holiness the Paramacharya of Kanchi Kama Kothi Peetham,Shri.Chandrasekharendra Saraswati..

    It was a highly confidential message,from His Holiness,carrying some very important instructions meant to be conveyed to Rajiv Gandhi..Rajiv Gandhi at that time was on a whirlwind tour of Northern India campaigning for his party’s victory in the next general elections….

    Surprisingly,for some strange reasons..

    This crucial telegram message has never reached Rajiv Gandhi..Although the exact reasons for such an irresponsible act are so far not known,what remains now to be known is that why such an important message from the holy Paramacharya,whom Rajiv Gandhi very reverentially follows,was not conveyed to him..

    Did anyone deliberately hide it from Rajiv Gandhi or was that just a routine human error..??..Or was there any other large scale criminal conspiracy that prevented that telegram from reaching Rajiv Gandhi..

     

    Citation.

    http://www.amazingtruelifestories.com/true-stories-of-mystery/when-the-office-of-rajiv-gandhi-ignored-a-crucial-message-from-kanchi-paramacharya/

  • Women Can Learn The Vedas Affirm Vedas

    The topic, “Can  women learn The Vedas”, the Scriptures of  the Hindus is very sensitive authentic material on this subject is scarce.

    One group maintains that women are barred from Learning the Vedas.

    Their arguments and references.

    They quote the Smritis which do not carry the weight and authority of The Vedas.

    There are clear injunctions in various smR^itis and purANas that prohibit women from learning the veda.

    The most famous of these that is quoted by most AchAryas comes from bhagavAn bAdarAyaNa:(Bhadarayana)

     

    strIshUdradvijabandhUnAM tray Ina shrutigocharA |
    karmashreyasi mUDhAnAM shreya evaM bhavediha |
    iti bhAratamAkhyAnaM kR^ipayA muninA kR^itam ||

    “stri-sudra-dvijabandhunam trayi na sruti-gocara. Because woman class and
    less intelligent class, and these unworthy sons of the brahmanas and
    ksatriyas, they will not be able to understand the original Vedic
    literature,

    Kanchi Peryavar says thus,

    ஸ்த்ரீகள் படிக்க வேண்டியதைச் சொன்னமாதிரியே படிக்க வேண்டாததையும் சொல்லவேண்டும். இப்படி நான் சொன்னால் கன்னா பின்னா புஸ்தகங்கள் படிக்கக்கூடாது என்பதைத்தான் நான் சொல்கிறேன் என்று எதிர்பார்பீர்கள். அதுவும் வாஸ்தவந்தான். ஆனால் கன்னா பின்னாவே இல்லாத இன்னொன்று, எல்லாக் கன்னா பின்னாக்களையும் போக்குகின்ற இன்னொன்றும் ஸ்த்ரீகளுக்கு வேண்டாம் என்று சாஸ்த்ரம் சொல்லியிருப்பதால் அதையும் நான் தெரிவிக்க வேண்டியிருக்கிறது.

    வேதத்தைத்தான் சொல்கிறேன்.

    வேதத்தின் தாத்பர்யத்தைச் சொல்லும் பல புஸ்தகங்கள் இருக்கின்றன. அவற்றை ஸ்த்ரீகள் படித்துச் தெரிந்து கொள்ளட்டும். நேரே வேதத்தைப் படிப்பதும் அதிலுள்ள ஸூக்தங்களைப் பாடம் பண்ணுவதும், புருஷர்கள் மாதிரியே அத்யயனம் பண்ணுவதும் வேண்டாம்.”

     

    I am providing the Link at the end of the Post for those who know Tamil.

     

    The essence of what He says is that there might have been exceptions in the earlier Yugas and in KaliYug, Women are weak.

     

    They need not learn the Vedas.

     

    The Essene of the Vedas is present in the Dharma Sastras Ramayana and Mahabharata.

     

    If  women are sincere in learning the Vedas, they an follow the Dharma Sastras and the Ithihasas like Ramayana and Mahabharata.

     

    However the Sruthi is clear on Women learning the Vedas.

     

    Women a learn The Vedas,Veda References.

    1.      The “Brahma” in a yajna is the best trained
    purohit who can correct the others involved in the yajna. BRAHMAA VAA
    RITVIJAABHMISHAKTAMAHA – Shatapatha brahmana 1.7.4.19.


    “Thasyaadyo
    brahmanishtaha syaath tham brahmaanam kurveeth”.“Atha kena brahmtvam
    kreeyathe iti trayyaa vidyayethi, trayya vidyayeti ha brooyaath”
    (Aithareya 5.33).
    2.       A woman can be a brahma as mentioned in Rigveda (8.33.-19).
    “…sthree hi brahmaa vibhoovidhaha” .
    3.      “AachaaryadaNatvam”…Ashtaadhyaayi 4.3.2.49.“ACHHARYASYA STREE AACHAARYAANEE PUM YOGA ITHYEVA AACHAARYA SVAYAM VYAAKHYAATREE”-Siddhaanta koumudi.

    ( the woman who conducts the veda pravachana is called an Achaarya) .
    4.      Aachaarya lakshana :- “UPANEEYA TUM YAHA SHISHYA
    VEDAMADHYAAPAYED DWIJAHA, SAKALPA SARAHASYAM CHA THAMAACHAARYA
    PRACHAKSHATHE”.( The one who can conduct the upanayana samskaara and teaches the Vedas is called the Aachaarya).

    Siddhaanta Koumudi edited by Mahamahopaadhyaaya pandit Shivadatta sarma says,

    5.      “ITI VACHANENAAPI STREENAM VEDAADHYANAADIKAARO    DHVANITHAHA”.(THIS MAKES IT CLEAR THAT WOMEN HAS VEDAADHIKAARA) .
    6.      Rigveda 10.159-2.3″THADVIDAHA�….UTAAHAMASMI SAM JAYAA…UTTAMAM”.(May I get a good husband…..Because of Vedas, I will become tejasvi and a
    powerful spokes person…
    May my daughter shine well because of her good
    character) .
    7.      Taandya brahmana (5-6-8) advises that women have to chant
    saamaved along with veena when a yajna is being conducted.
    8.      The Mantra 5.5.29 ordains that the women have to circumambulate the yajna kunda
    chanting the veda mantras.
    .
    9.      .The kumari Gandharva grahathaa story in
    Eithareya proves that the women had all rights for Vedas.
    .
    10.  Laatyayana
    shrouthasootra, Shaankaayana shroutha sootra etc., also confirms the
    rights of women for Vedas.
    There are several other authorities advising women to chant veda mantras. .
    11.  Yajurveda23-23, 25-27, 29;
    12.  Shatapatha brahmana 1-9-2-2-1, 1.9.2.22.23;
    13.  Taittareeya samhitha 1.1.10,
    14.  Aaswalaayana grihya sootra 1.1.9,
    15.  Kaataka grihyasootra 3.1.30, 27-3,
    16.  Paaraskara grihyasootra 1.5.1,2. ,
    17.  Yajurveda 36-24
    “tacchakshurdeva sahitam…” is to chanted only by a woman.
    18.  Rigveda  10-85.48 has to be chanted by husband and wife together.
    19.  Some Names of women who chanted Vedas:-  Ghoshaa, godaa, vishvavaraa, apaalaa, adithi, jahu, indraani, vedavathi, Oorvashi, shachee, shrithaavathi, Siddhaa,
    Shreemathi, Shivaa, Sulabhaa, Svadhaa, Vapunaa, Dhaarini, Romashaa,
    Lopaamudraa, Yamee, Shaashvathee, Idaa, Gaargi, Maithreyi…….
    20.  Some more Authorities for women chanting veda mantras:- Examples of women
    mantradrashtaaras: Ghoshaa, godhaa, vishvavaraa, Apaalaa, Upanishad,
    Jahu, Indraani, saramaa, Romashaa, Oorvashi, Lopaamudraa, Yamee,
    Shaashvathee, Sooryaasavithree,….etc.,
    21.  Rigveda 10-134, 10-39,
    10-40, 8-91, 10-95, 10-109, 10-154, 10-159, 10-189, 5-28, 8-91 ..etc.,
    are from women.
    22.  Taittareeya brahmana 2-3-10..”..
    23.  Tam trayee vedaa anya
    srijantha….vedan pradadow”(Three vedas were given to the woman
    Seetaa-savitri through Soma).
    24.  Manu’s daughter Idaa is described in
    Taittareeya Brahmana( 1-1-4) as Yajnaprakaashinee meaning Yajna tatva
    prakaashana samarthaa.
    (This can be continued…)
    25.  To cite examples of mention in Mahaakavyas:-
    Mahabharata:-
    Udyogaparva 190-18: “Atra siddhaa shivaa naama braahmNee veda paaragaahaa..”
    (A brahmin lady by name Shivaa was a scholar of vedas and she got
    Moksha).
    26.  A non brahmin lady Droupadi was a scholar of vedas.
    Achaarya
    27.  Madhva in his Mahabharata tatparya nirnaya says, “Vedaaschapyuttama
    streebhihi krishnaattaabhirihaakhilaaha.
    ( Good women should learn Vedas like Droupadi).
    28.  Valmiki Ramayana:-
    Sundarakaanda53-26:
    Vaidehi shokasantaptaa hutaashanmupaagatam.
    ( The sad Seeta did homa to Agni)
    29.  VR 5-15-48:- “Sandhyaakaale …..Sandhyaartham varavarninee”.
    (Seetha would certainly come to the river to perform sandhya with pure water).
    30.  Valmikiramayana 4-16-12, 2-20-15 indicate that Kousalya and Kaikeyi also
    were doing agnihotra etc.,
    31.  Vaali’s wife Tara chanted
    swastimantras.

    32.  Puranas :-
    Vishnupurana (1-10) and (18-19);
    Markandeyapurana (52); Brahma vaivarta purana (14-65) etc., may be seen.’

    Shri.Ramanujacharya, Founder of Visishtadvaita, affirms that women an lear the Vedas.

    But Ramanuja thinks that any person wishing to pursue
    the knowledge of Brahman must first learn to chant the
    Vedas (swadhyayam).
    He thinks that learning Vedas is a
    Samskaara (refinement or exaltation of excellence) and
    Swadhyaaya forms the object of Samskaara. Taittriya
    upanishad
    is quoted to substantiate this"

    Professor Bhatnagar.

    Prof . Bhargava tell us that in Brhadaranyaka Upanishad 6.4.17, there is a ritual “for parents desirous of a daughter who would shine with learning.

    ” The Upanayana ceremony was common to boys as well as to girls.

    The Atharvaveda 9.15.18  says that a girl gets a young and eligible husband only when she has passed a period of brahmacarya.

    The rg Veda mentions women performing yajnas alone and the satapaha brahmana tells us that the Patnikarma of women chanting SamaVeda was later taken over by udgatrs.”

    Harita smR^iti discusses two categories of women:

    1. brahmavAdinI: She is the true brahmachAriNI who can undergo upanayana and agni homa, study the scriptures and live on bhikShA.
    2. sadyo vadhu: Undergo upanayana but enter matrimony early on without the study of scriptures.

     

     

    While venerable commentators point out various technicalities in accepting this pramANa, there is no room for doubt regarding the need for upanayana samskAra if a woman needs to study shruti, if at all such an adhikAra is accepted.

     

    One can find a clear reference to a brahmachAriNI in the gR^ihya sUtra when AshvalAyana talks about the samAvartana samskAra:

     

    ashmanastejo.asi shrotraM me pAhIti maNikuNDale AbadhnIta anulepena pANI pralipya mukhamagre brAhmaNo.anulimpet | bAhU rAjanyaH | agre.anulimpet | udaraM vaishyaH | pUrvavat | upasthaM strI | tadvat ||”

     

    Kalidasa, the Divine Poet affirms this hen he speaks of Goddess Parvati.

    Kalidasa’s description of bhagavatI parvatI performing agnihotra can be somewhat accepted as reflecting the society in those days:

     

    kR^itAbhiShekAM hutajAtavedasaM tvaguttarAsa~NgavatIM adhItinIm || [kumArasambhava]

    sItA is described as performed sandhyA in rAmAyaNa:

    sandhyAkAlamanAH shyAmA dhruvameShyati jAnakI |
    nadIM chemAM shubhajalAM sandhyArthaM varavarNinI ||’

    To sum up.

    There are some injunctions on women prohibiting them from learning the Vedas.

     

    Kanhi Periyavar says that women in Kali Yuga are weak and hence need not learn the Vedas.

     

    His advice is to learn the Dharma sastra and he does not say learning  the Vedas is prohibited .

     

    His Concern seems more on the the rigorous  practice and Discipline needed to learn the Vedas and that being weak, women need not learn the Vedas.

     

    He does no say the Vedas proscribe women learning the Vedas.

     

    Sruthi is the Highest authority, Smrtis take a backseat, so also  the Purana and The Ithihasas, when compared with the Vedas.

     

    I feel on the strength of the Sruthi, Vedas can be learned by women by following the procedure laid by The Vedas to learn them.

     

    Citations.

    http://jayasreesaranathan.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/should-women-not-chant-vedas-part-1/

    http://jayasreesaranathan.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/should-women-not-chant-vedas-part-3/

    http://www.kamakotimandali.com/misc/womenveda.html

    https://ancientindians.wordpress.com/2010/02/17/can-women-learn-the-veda/

    http://mahaperiyavaa.wordpress.com/2014/03/12/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%A4-%E0%AE%85%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%A9%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%B5%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%A3%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D/

    * This post is intended to Highlight this issue and My views are not the final authority.

    I have references from the Vedas,and to me Vedas are the Authority.

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  • Rare Videos of Kanchi Periyava on Adi Sankara. Totakacharya.

     

     

     

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    Adi Sankara and Disciples.

    Trotakacharya (IAST Troţakācārya) (c. 8th century CE) was a disciple of Adi Shankara, the Advaita philosopher. He was made the first Jagadguru (head) of the Jyotirmatha Peetham, the northern matha founded by Adi Shankara near Badrinath. He founded a matha by name Vadakke Matham in Thrissur, Kerala.

    Meeting Adi Sankara.

    The Mādhavīya Śaṃkaravijayam states that when Adi Shankara was at Sringeri, he met a boy named Giri. Adi Shankara accepted the boy as his disciple. Giri was a hard-working and loyal servant of his Guru, Adi Shankara, though he did not appear bright to the other disciples. One day, Giri was washing his Guru’s clothes, when Adi Shankara sat down to begin a lesson on Advaita Vedanta. He however did not start the lesson saying he was waiting for Giri to come back from his chores and singing lessons. At this, Padmapada pointed to a wall and said that it would be the same if Adi Shankara taught to this dumb object as he taught to Giri. Now, Adi Shankara wanted to reward Giri for his loyalty and devotion. Thus he mentally granted Giri the complete knowledge of all the śāstras (sciences). The enlightened Giri composed extempore the Totakashtakam, a Sanskrit poem in the toţaka metre, in praise of the Guru Adi Shankara. Thus the dumb disciple Giri became Totakacharya. He was thenceforth called Anandagiri. He would later go on to write the celebrated Tika on the Mandukya Karika.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totakacharya

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  • Hindu Dharma,’Unity of All Religions’. By Kanchi Periyavar.

    Following are from the Book ‘ Hindu Dharma” , a book which contains English translation of certain invaluable and engrossing speeches of Sri Sri Sri Chandrasekharendra Saraswathi MahaSwamiji (at various times during the years 1907 to 1994).

    Republished here with the Sri.Kanchi Mutt’s Permission.

    May the Good Word Spread.

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    Kanchi Periyavar.

    All religions have one common ideal, worship of the Lord, and all of them proclaim that there is but one God. This one God accepts your devotion irrespective of the manner of your worship, whether it is according to this or that religion. So there is no need to abandon the religion of your birth and embrace another.

    The temple, the church, the mosque, the vihara may be different from one another. The idol or the symbol in them may not also be the same and the rites performed in them may be different. But the Paramatman who wants to grace the worshipper, whatever be his faith, is the same. The different religions have taken shape according to the customs peculiar to the countries in which they originated and according to the differences in the mental outlook of the people inhabiting them. The goal of all religions is to lead people to the same Paramatman according to the different attributes of the devotees concerned. So there is no need for people to change over to another faith. Converts demean not only the religion of their birth but also the one to which they convert. Indeed they do demean God.

    “A man leaves the religion of his birth because he thinks there is something wanting in it,” so you may think. ‘Why does the Svaamigal say then that the convert demeans the new religion that he embraces? ” I will tell you why. Is it not because they think that God is not the same in all religions that people embrace a new faith? By doing so, they see God in a reduced form, don’t they? They presumably believe that the God of the religion of their birth is useless and jump to another faith. But do they believe that the God of their new religion is a universal God? No. No. If they did there would be no need for any change of faith. Why do people embrace a new faith? Is it not because that the continuance in the religion of their birth would mean a denial of the blessings of the God of the new faith to which they are attracted? This means that they place limitations on their new religion as well as on its God. When they convert to a new religion, apparently out of respect for it, they indeed dishonour it.

    One big difference between Hinduism and other faiths is that it does not proclaim that it alone shows the path to liberation. Our Vedic religion alone has not practiced conversion and the reason for it is that our forefathers were well aware that all religions are nothing but different paths to realise the one and only Paramatman. The Vedas proclaim: “The wise speak of the One Truth by different names” Sri Krsna says in the Gita: “In whatever way or form a man worships me, I increase his faith and make him firm and steady in that worship” And says one of the Azhvars: “Avaravar tamatamadu tarivari vahaivahai avaravar iraiyavar“. This is the reason why the Hindus have not practiced- like adherents of other religions- proselytisation and religious persecution. Nor have they waged anything like the crusades or jehads.

    Our long history is sufficient proof of this. All historians accept the fact of our religious tolerance. They observe that, an empire like Srivijaya was established in the East, people there accepted our culture and our way of life willingly, not because they were imposed on them by force. They further remark that Hinduism spread through trade and not through force.

    In my opinion the Vedic religion was once prevalent all over the world. Certain ruins and relics found in various regions of the planet attest to this fact. Even historians who disagree with my view concede that in the past people in many lands accepted Indian culture and the way of life willingly and not on account of any force on our part.

    All religions that practice conversion employ a certain ritual. For instance, there is baptism in Christianity. Hinduism has more ritual than any other religion, yet its canonical texts do not contain any rite for conversion. No better proof is needed for the fact that we have at no time either encouraged conversion or practiced it.

    When a passenger arrives at a station by train he is besieged by the driver of the horse-cart, by the rikshavala, by the cabbie, and so on. He hires the vehicle in which he likes to be driven to his destination. It cannot be said with reason that those who ply different vehicles are guilty of competing with one another for the fare. After all it is their livelihood. But it makes no sense for the adherents of various faiths to vie with one another to take a man to the one and only destination that is God.

    There is a bridge across a river, consisting of a number of arches, each of them built to the same design and measurement. To the man sitting next to a particular arch it would appear to be bigger than the other arches. So is the case with people belonging to a particular religion. They feel that their religion alone is great and want others to join it. There is in fact no such need for anyone to leave the religion of his birth for another.

    That the beliefs and customs of the various religions are different cannot be a cause for complaint. Nor is there any need to make all of them similar. The important thing is for the followers of the various faiths to live in harmony with one another. The goal must be unity, not uniformity.

    Note:

    “Hindu Dharma” is a book which contains English translation of certain invaluable and engrossing speeches of Sri Sri Sri Chandrasekharendra Saraswathi MahaSwamiji (at various times during the years 1907 to 1994).
    For a general background, please see here

    http://www.kamakoti.org/hindudharma/part1/chap6.htm

    Ack.

    With the permission of Sri.Kanchi Kamakoti Mutt.

    Related:

    https://ramanisblog.in/2012/07/17/an-introduction-to-samskarashindu-rites/

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