Month: December 2016

  • Vedas Complied In The Arctic Why How By Whom ? Part 2

    Sage Agastya came to South twice.

    He came to South when Shiva asked him to go to south to balance the earth when Shiva married Uma in the Himalayas.

    This is dated around 40,00,000 thousands years ago.

    The next time he came down to south was around 5000 BC.

    The dates have been arrived at by tracking the movement of Star Canopus,called Agastya,which is visible in the southern lattidues once on 5000 years.

    Please check my articles on these.

    The fact that Shiva had to send him to an area which was far off is mentioned in the Puranas,especially the Skanda,Linga,Shiva  Purana stating that the place he had to go was Dravida.

    The tone and tenor convey a distant land, not a geographically adjacent one.

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    8.One may notice that Shiva is not mentioned directly in the Vedas as Vishnu and others are.He, however , is repeatedly mentioned in the Tamil Classics.

    He was called the ‘Ancient of the Ancients’

    The Shiva cult precedes Sanatana Dharma as is evidenced from the Earliest Tamil works like Agathiyam,written by Agastya and Tholkaapiyam by Tholkappiyar.

    Both Agastya and Tholkaapiyar were Rishis, as declared by them.

    They refer Shiva as the primary deity.

    Rama,Krishna,Vishnu are also mentioned and their period is mentioned.

    But not Shiva’s.

    He is mentioned as beyond Time.

    This indicates that Shiva cult was present  in the south even before  Shiva’s marriage with Uma in the Himalayas.

    In the Shiva cult of the early times the Vedas,though mentioned, are not assigned a date.But the texts are clear that Shiva as a separate Entity though not in conflict with the Vedas is mentioned as the Ancient One.

    9.The Avatars of Shiva are not in vogue in the north as much as in the south.

    They are called Thiruvilayadal in Tamil and they are documented.

    They are 64 in numbers.

    Please read my article on this.

    These avatars are reported to have taken place in the Tamil ,Dravida Region.

    They,at least most of them,took place in Madurai.

    This is not the present Madurai ,Tamil Nadu.

    This refers to Then (south) Madurai which was devored by  the sea.

    This was in Lemuria,and Then Madurai is mentioned along with Kapatapuram and Vanchi.

    The Shiva worship was prevalent there before Rama and Krishna worship.

    This speaks of a parallel system of philosophy in the south,though not at variance with the the Vedas.

    10.Lord Shiva is considered to be the founder of the Tamil language.

    He founded the language along with Sage who wrote the First  Tamil book on Grammar,Agathiyam.

    The Tamils conducted Poets’s Conclaves.

    There were three such Conclaves,Tamil Sangam.

    The first one was presided over by Shiva and the third one by Subrahmanya,his son,who is also considered to be a co founder of Tamil.He was called Murugan.

    The Tamil Sangam was attended by Lord Krishna.

    He participated as a special invitee.

    Please read my article on this.

    This indicates the Shiva worship, presence preceded Krishna’s.

    11.Lord Shiva got married to, in one of His avatars,to Meenakshi of Madurai.

    Shiva, in this Avatar, was called Chokkanatha,Sundareswara in Sanskrit.

    Meenakshis father Malayadwaja Pandya participated in the Mahabharata war alongside the Pandavas.

    The marriage ceremony was conducted through the Vedic rites.

    This is specifically mentioned.

    This is of importance as the marriage was not conducted the Tamil way.

    This means the Vedic custom did not take deep roots then.

    12.Rama finds references in the ancient classics of the Tamils.

    He,as in the case of Krishna,was treated as a human being,though he was worshiped later.

    This again confirms that the Vedic people were considered as from the north with a culture,though similar from the north,Aryavarth,Meaning from a ‘Blemishless place’

    13.Rama worshiped Shiva as Ramanatha at Rameswaram, Tamil Nadu after killing Ravana.

    14.Ravana was from the Dravida desa and a Brahmin.

    He married Mandodari from the north overcoming objections to the marriage of Mandodari to a Dravida.

    15.Ravana learnt the Vedas and recited them at Kailash, the Abode of Shiva .

    16.Ravana built the Shiva Temple at Koneswaram, Sri Lanka which anti dates Indian temples..

    17.Rama’s,ancestor Vaivaswatha Manu was from Dravida Desa and he migrated to Ayodhya and his son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku Dyasty.

    18.Vaivaswatha Manu meditated in Madagascar.

    19.Shiva temples,which are quite ancient,are quite numerous as compared to North.

    20.While Shiva’s marriage with Uma and Shiva’s loneliness because of the loss of Sati and Shiva as an ascetic is known in the north, not much of Him is heard there as in the south,about His sons,Ganesha and Subrahmanya,which is detailed in the south

    21.Vasi yoga is the predecessor of Patanjali’s Yoga Sutra and this was revealed in the South by Shiva.

    22.The Siddhas,the Enlightened souls, from the south had  a distinct system of Shiva worship and they were aware of Vedas. Patanjali,Agastya and Valimiki were Siddhas and have wriiten philosophical treatises in Tamil.

    Valmiki mentions in his Tamil poem that he was a Vedic Brahmin.

    23.The Avatars of Vishnu,(Parashurama,Vamana,Kurma and Varaha)took place in the south.Of these,Kurma and Varaha took place just after The Vedas were compiled.

    24.The migration to north seems to have been necessitated because of Great flood in each yuga and Puranas/ ithihasas/Tamil classics assert this.

    25.Thiruvannamalalai,Tamil Nadu is 3.64 billion years old and Jwalapuram,Cuddapah,Telengana,which houses Nataraja is 74,000 years old.

    I can go on adding.

    What happened after the flood and the compilation of the Vedas will be detailed in the forthcoming article.

    Vedas Complied In The Arctic Why How By Whom ? Part 1

  • Vedas Complied In The Arctic Why How By Whom ? Part 1

    I have stated in many of my articles that the Vedas were Revealed/composed in the area what we call Arctic now.

    I have made passing references to this point.

    Jambudweepa,
    Jambudweepa, landmass of the Earth as explained in the Puranas. Note the change from present Landmass

    As many wanted a detailed article, I am elaborating on why Arctic could have been the home of the Vedic people,why the Vedas could not have been written in the present India and who the people were who composed,rather compiled the Vedas.

    As to the people who composed it can remain a hypothesis unless one is a Realized soul to have Truth revealed.

    I am attempting with my limited knowledge and the inadequate tool called Logic to explain the issue.

    Why the Vedas could not have been from the present Indian landmass?

    1.The Vedas refer repeatedly to long periods of day long periods of night.

    They had composed Hymns on Ushas,on Dawn and on Night,Ratri Suktha.

    They also speak of days in yet another context ,extending for 60 Nazhigais,which corresponds to our normal day.

    If only normal day and night duration was only the time scale,why the obsession and necessity of composing these Sukthas?

    Long nights propel one to yearn for Dawn and Long nights vice versa.

    And the Veda speaks of Devayana and Pitruyana, the Pitru yana, the former denoting the Devas,Divine beings,the latter the deceased ancestors.

    Ayana means Path as in Dakshinayana or Uttarayana,the movement of

    Sun from North to South and from South to North.

    Ayana may also indicate Time scale as movement is related to Time.

    The referral points they take for this movement of the Sun are the,Tropic of Cancer and Capricorn,both related closely to the Poles.

    2. The Uttarayana, movement to North period is considered auspicious, because the warmth reaches Arctic during this period.

    3.When the Indian texts speak of Bharatavarsha, they do not mean India.

    They refer to India as Bharata Kanda.

    For such an advanced thinkers  as the Vedic people ,using two terms for the same land is unthinkable.

    Please read my article Bharatavarsha is not India.

    Bharatavarsha encopmpassed a larger mass and Bharata Kanda,ruled by Bharata , is only a part.

    4. When one checks the Vedic and Puranic Texts, one does not find specific Hymns on Patriotism or reference to a single country.

    The refrain has been Swadeso Bhuvanathrayam, All the Three worlds are mine.

    Benediction is not for a country, but Sarve Janaas Sukino Bhavanthu, May All be Happy or Hymn seeking welfare of beings animate and inanimate.

    Please read my article Sanatana Dharma on Patriotism.

    The reason is that Sanatana Dharma was the only way of Life in the early life of the earth.

    5.Southern direction is being treated as some thing beyond more like alien territory though the people from the south were practicing Sanatana Dharma with variations.

    They were called as Dravida, the Southerners or Dasyus though the later term means one who became wayward.

    6.Sending people to South was Banishment as a punishment, as Visvamitra sent his 51  sons to Dravida Desa as a punishment.

    7.We have Sage Agastya who has been a bridge between the North and South

    To be continued in Part 2

    Vedas Complied In The Arctic Why How By Whom ? Part 2

  • English Buried Bodies Indian Vedic Way Namasthe Posture

    There are tools to verify history.

    They are,

    Archeology,

    Astro dating,

    Contemporary writings both internal and external,

    Internal information of the relevant texts,

    Geology,

    Infra Red dating,

    Language and cultural similarities,

    Behavioral similarities and customs and

    Oral traditions.

    While the written records might be destroyed or doctored, as has been the case with India,the Oral traditions and customs are difficult to destroy or manipulate.

    I am relying on all these tools tovarrive at a conclusion and salute the Oral traditions and custom oriented life style of Indians.

    I have been able to identify linguistic and custom similarities ti trace the presence of Sanana Dharma throughout the world.

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    Burial style India and Englang

    Customs and languages,though they may change, never lose their identity if one were to dig deep.

    The customs of Hindus are ,in some ways, unique and they transcend regions.

    Hindus have two ways of dead bodies.

    Burning and Burial.

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    Buried bodies in Winchester Cathedral, England. Palms folded ,the the Hindu way.

    Set practices are followed in all the cases.

    The procedure for burning the dead body is more elaborate than burial and is more time consuming.

    Even in burying several different procedures are followed.

    In the case of children ,they are buried.

    In the case of elders,they are buried in a sitting posture.

    The Ascetics,Royalty, are buried with their palms folded in the form of greeting to wards the sky, keeping the palms folded over the chest.

    Brahmins and many communities resort to burning.

    In the case of a Sanyasi,the body is buried after breaking a Coconut on the head, while keeping the palms folded as in welcome or Thank you,Namste posture.

    Many of the Hindu customs were followed by other civilizations.

    However the custom of burying with palms folded was strictly followed by the English when the buried their Royalty and Nobles,thus reaffirming the presence and influence of Sanatana Dharma in England.

    The English buried their dead with their Palms folded in Vedic/Hindu tradition.

    ‘Statues or dead royalty and other elite in Westminster Abbey, London may be seen by the score with their palms joined in homage at death in the Vedic tradition.’

    Reference and citation.

    Catastrophic English: Christianity as a Vedic Cult

  • England Followed Hindu Vikrama Saka Calendar Before 1752?

    Which Calendar did people use before Julian Calendar?

    There have been two methods.

    One based on the movement of the Sun,Solar Calendar.

     

    The other is based on the movement of the Moon,Lunar Calendar

    The Solar Calendar is called Surya Maanasa and the Lunar,Chandra Manasa.

    Both are in vogue in India.

    There are some more caledars based on important events ,like King Vikramaditya’s reign.

    There are,

    Hindu ,

    Vikram,

    Tamil,

    Malayalam,

    Bengali and

    Nana Sakhi.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_calendar

    While India has been traditionally following either the Solar or Lunar Calendars, in the West,there has been confusion galore.

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    In India,though two primary Calendars,Solar and Lunar, for religious purposes to fix the Nakshatra ,the Solar Calendar is followed because the Sun was recognised as a Star by ancient Hindus and for Thithi,which deals with the movement of the Moon is followed.

    As mentioned at the beginning of this article, there is also a Vikrama Calendar,Vikrama Samvatsara.

    The curious fact is that England, Wales and Scotland were following the Vikrama Samvatsara till 1752 when they changed it.

    Yet another proof of India having once ruled England is the fact that until 1752 A.D. the English New Year began on March 25.

    That is the exact time of the year when the Indian New Year begins.

    In 1752 by an act of Parliament England arbitrarily changed over to January 1 as the New Year Day.

    As March 25 marks the beginning of the Indian Vikram Samvat it is plausible that England was part of Vikramaditya’s Indian empire.

    Please read my article Vikramaditya Date and His World Kingdom

    Reference and citations.

    https://malagabay.wordpress.com/2016/07/17/catastrophic-english-christianity-as-a-vedic-cult-2/

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_calendar

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar

    Beginning in 1582, the Gregorian calendar replaced the Julian in Catholic countries.

    This change was also implemented in Protestant and Orthodox countries some time later.

    In England and Wales, Ireland, and the British colonies, the change of the start of the year and the changeover from the Julian calendar occurred in 1752 under the Calendar (New Style) Act 1750.
    ….
    From the 12th century to 1752, the civil or legal year in England began on 25 March (Lady Day) so for example the execution of Charles I was recorded at the time in Parliament as happening on 30 January 1648 (Old Style).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Style_and_New_Style_dates

    Vikram Samvat or Bikram Samvat is a calendar era used in a Hindu calendar.

    It uses lunar months and solar sidereal year.

    The new year begins with the first day after the new moon, in the month of Chaitra, Chaitra Shuddha 1 or Chaitra Shukla Paksha Prathama; which usually falls in March–April in the Gregorian calendar.

    The Vikrama Samvat is said to have been founded by the legendary Indian king Vikramaditya, variously considered to be a partly historical figure or a purely mythical character.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikram_Samvat

    According to the popular tradition, Vikramaditya started the Vikrama Samvat era in 57 BCE, after defeating the Shakas.

    For this reason, those who believe him to be based on a distinct historical figure place him around the 1st century BCE.

    However, this era is mentioned as “Vikrama Samvat” only after the 9th century CE.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikramaditya

  • Vedic France Carnac Notre Dame Cathedral?

    Vedic France Carnac Notre Dame Cathedral?

    The ancestors of the Europeans may be traced back to Sanatana Dharma.

    Celts,Gauls,Huns all go back to Sanatana Dharma people.

    When one reads the origins of the people of Europe,one would find that there were some local tribes in an area and more people migrated to the area from Asia or from the east.

    The area in question may be Bulgaria,Romania or areas bordering Turkey or the Middle east.

    The people of these areas can be traced to Mesopotamian,Sumerian and Minoan civilizations.

    And the migration from the east or Asia generally coincides(?)with the Great Flood recorded in Hindu texts,Tamil classics as in all religious texts of the world.

    Please read my article on Humam migration.

    The Sanatana Dharma origin of the Nordic,Vikings,Celts have ben explained in my earlier articles.

    One may find the evidence from archeology and through philoarcheology.

    For more please google the country name/race +Hinduism+ramanan50.

    The evidence of Sanatana Dharma presence in France is difficult to come by as I am handicapped by my ignorance of French language.

    However I understand from my French friends,who are regular readers of my blog that they are also of the opinion that most of  of their pre Christian History is vague and it is bing dismissed as Paganism.

    I shall be writing on the origin of the word Pagan and the Paganism and how it is related to if  not Sanatana Dharma Polytheism.

    I have foud two pieces of Evidence lnking Hinduism and pre Christian France.

    One is a Megalith site  .

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    Research has been going on whether the standing stones of Carnac in France were burial plots or whether their use was astronomical in nature. No matter what the future (unbiased) science will reveal, one thing is established, the stones of Carnac are aligned to the sun and moon in a special way.

    Sun Temples around the world have similar names – for example: the ‘Konark’ temple of India and the ‘Karnak’ Temple of Egypt. In Sanskrit ‘Konark’ is a combination word, ‘kona’ (कोण) meaning ‘angle’ and ‘ark’ (अर्क) meaning the ‘sun’. ..

    The Carnac complex in France is located at the unique latitude at which the solstice sun, both summer and winter, form a perfect Pythagorean triangle relative to the parallel of latitude…

    The etymology of the name ‘Carnac’ is unknown, but if we were to apply Sanskrit to decode the meaning,  of the word ‘Carnac’ – this is what we arrive at:

    1. ‘Kar-Ark’ : ‘kar’ (कर) means ‘sunbeam’. ‘Ark’ (अर्क) means ‘sun’. Karark (कर-अर्क) means ‘sunbeam from the sun’ or ‘ray of light from the sun’.

    2. ‘Kar-nak’ : kar (कर) means ‘sunbeam’, ‘nak’ (नक्) means ‘night. Karnak means ‘Ray of Light at Night’. This could have been in reference to the Moon.

    3. ‘Kaar-ark’: ‘Kaar’ (कार) means ‘act of worship’ or hymn of praise’. ‘Ark’ (अर्क) is ‘sun’. ‘Kaar-ark’ could thereforebhave been a place of worship for the sun, that is, a Sun Temple.

    4. Kar-naksh: Kar (कर) means ‘Sunbeam’. Naksh (नक्ष्) means ‘approach or come near’. In that sense Carnac would mean ‘From where the sunbeam approaches’.

    (  http://vediccafe.blogspot.in/2012/07/the-sanskrit-connection-carnac.html  )

     

    2.

    Notre Dame

    France’s biggest cathedral the Noire Dame in Paris meaning Our Goddess, used to be in pre-Christian times the temple of the Vedic Mother Goddess Bhagawati alias Parameshwari.

    Though rebuilt as a Christian shrine it scrupulously retains its Vedic associations.

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    For instance the figures of men, women and animals that decorate its exterior from top to bottom, are a feature of holy Vedic architecture.

    On the edifice are also sketched in bold relief the 12 zodiacal signs and two books, one open and the other shut.

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    One book represents the Vedas and the other the sacred chant of the Vedic goddess.

    Important people visiting the shrine are made to pull off their socks and shoes and have their feet reverently washed near the altar as a mark of benediction, which is a Vedic ritual.

    More research is required.

    Reference and citation.

    https://malagabay.wordpress.com/2016/07/17/catastrophic-english-christianity-as-a-vedic-cult-2/