Autism Cure Virupaksha Temple Route Details



Mobile numbers.+919980980205


He speaks Kannada,Tamil and Malayalam.

You may visit the temple between ,,5.15 and 6 pm.

6 am to 6.30 am.

Suggest contacting priest a day earlier.


Pravaras Gotras Pdf

I had written on Gotra system of India. Gotra is unique identity of an individual by linking his ancestors.The Gotr as differ for each varna, Brahmana, Kshatriya,Vaisya.

Gotras have one,two, three or five Rishis as the first of the Lineage.

I have been answering doubts on Gotras.I have posted an article on how to find Gotra.

One of the readers has taken pains to get a reference text in Mysuru, published in the year 1900!My gratitude to him. I am providing the communication from him

And the Book in Pdf.You may download.

You may visit the Link below.


Please find attached.Scroll down to index, Check the gotram, scroll down to that group and you can see the entire list of descendants of gotras and pravaras.The kevalaas are also listed. That is, those who are brahmins, moved to practise kshatriya work and then returned to the brahmin roots.Ten in all. Such as Garga, Moudgalya, Sankriti,…etc.Also, the 2-family ones are explained. [ dvyaamushyaayanaas ]
Say, for instance, Sankriti.
Sankriti, one born to Shakti, son of Sage Vasishta, practise the work of kshatriyas, then return to brahmin roots (original vasishta gotra) by firstmoving to the ashram of Sage Angeeras and then returning to their Root Vasishtar.
Two more Sankriti lines are Sage Aangeerasa line. One as direct descendant (angeerasa, gauriveeta, sankrutya)and another the Kshatriya Sankriti (angeerasa, saankrutya, gauriveeta), who by way of having been born as a resultof the Yajna by Aangeerasar for a king, become Sage Aangeerasar’s disciples, move with him to his ashram and take his gotra line.
The listing of kshatriyas and vaishyas too, is to be seen. One page listing. They have only one to three gotras/pravaras. The remaining have taken the
gotras of their family priests/gurus.
Thanks and RegardsNatarajan Iyer’


Bhagavad Gita In Egyptian Pyramid NOW With Private Collector?

I wrote an article on 8 December, 2014, Appropriate Bhagavad Gita Verse in Egyptian Pyramid.

I received information as comment from a reader as to where the tomb is.

The comment.

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Mr. Ramani,
Its Pyramid 2 in Egypt but the tablet was immediately taken to British Museum and no photographs can be found online)

# During my visit to UK in April 2019, I visited the Museum to check the information contained in this article.

I was informed by the curator that the artifact was returned to the private collector.

The curator informed me that he could not divulge information about the collector.

In Leeds Musuem, I saw a Third Century BC Vishnu Panchaloka Idol.

The curator was reluctant to share additional information except the date.

Screenshot of Original source Navbharat times. Screeenshot
Screenshot from Navbharat Times 18/04//1967

In one of the Pyramids, dating back to 3000 BC, a verse, from the second chapter of the Bhagavad Gita was found inscribed.

Here it is:

vasanvsi jeernani yatha vihaya, navani
ghrunnati naro parani

– Nava Bharat Times, 18-4-1967

# During my visit to UK in April 2019, I visited the Museum to check the information contained in this article.

I was informed by the curator that the artifact was returned to the private collector.

The curator informed me that he could not divulge information about the collector.

In Leeds Musuem, I saw a Third Century BC Vishnu Panchaloka Idol.

The curator was reluctant to share additional information except the date.

I received information as comment from a reader as to where the tomb is.

This verse is from The Bhagavd Gita Chapter 2,verse 22.

The text and translation.

vasamsi jirnani yatha vihaya
navani grhnati naro ‘parani
tatha sarirani vihaya jirnany
anyani samyati navani dehi

vasamsi–garments; jirnani–old and worn out; yatha–as it is; vihaya–giving up; navani–new garments; grhnati–does accept; narah–a man; aparani–other; tatha–in the same way; sarirani–bodies; vihaya–giving up; jirnani–old and useless; anyani–different; samyati–verily accepts; navani–new sets; dehi–the embodied.

As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, similarly, the soul accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones.

How appropriate for a Burial Tomb!


Pitru Dosha Cause Remedies

Such is the seriousness of Pitrudosha that it can nullify the effects of Poojas and Punyapalas.

As an aside, Matru Dosha is not being talked about as much.

Pirtu generally means ancestors, which includes women as well.

But there is difference in performing Sraddha between for Men and Women.

No Homa is done for Women.


Vedic Gods Mitra Varuna Sumerian Treaty

Atomic Blast WMD Mahabharata Describes,Jodhpur Radiation Evidence Hinduism In Ancient World Documented, Practices

Ancient Indian texts,Puranas and Ithihasas speak of various weapons of mass destruction,WMD.'Radiation still so intense, the area is highly dangerous. A heavy layer of radioactive ash in Rajasthan, India, covers a three-square mile area, ten miles west of Jodhpur. Scientists are investigating the site, where a housing development was being built. For some time it has been established that there is a very high rate of birth defects and cancer in the area under construction. The levels of radiation there have registered so high on investigators' gauges that the Indian government has now cordoned off the region. ….The Mahabharata clearly describes a catastrophic blast that rocked the continent. "A single projectile charged with all the power in the Universe…An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as 10,000 suns, rose in all its splendor…it was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death which reduced to ashes an entire race. "The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. Their hair and nails fell out, pottery broke without any apparent cause, and the birds turned white. "After a few hours, all foodstuffs were infected. To escape from this fire, the soldiers threw themselves into the river." ….Archeologist Francis Taylor says that etchings in some nearby temples he has managed to translate suggest that they prayed to be spared from the great light that was coming to lay ruin to the city. "It's so mid-boggling to imagine that some civilization had nuclear technology before we did. The radioactive ash adds credibility to the ancient Indian records that describe atomic warfare." Construction has halted while the five member team conducts the investigation. The foreman of the project is Lee Hundley, who pioneered the investigation after the high level of radiation was discovered. There is evidence that the Rama empire (now India) was devastated by nuclear war. The Indus valley is now the Thar desert, and the site of the radioactive ash found west of Jodhpur is around there . http://veda.wikidot.com/ancient-city-found-in-india-irradiated-from-atomic-blast — Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/ramanispodcast/message
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  2. Rama's War With Atlanteans Atomic Bomb Dropped at Mohenjo-Daro
  3. Siva's Marriage Fire Burns Still Temple For Conjugal Bliss
  4. How Rama Conquered Sumeria
  5. Priest Becomes Siva's Wife Devi

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Rama's War With Atlanteans Atomic Bomb Dropped at Mohenjo-Daro Hinduism In Ancient World Documented, Practices

Given the fact that there had been atomic radiation in Mohenj- Daro, how can we account for it since Rama did not seem to have used it, nor any one in the Mahabharata in the area? There seems to me one logical answer to this. Lord Rama had conquered the whole of world, I had published the Map of Rama Empire. If Rama had annexed these area he had to have won over them. If so, whom did he defeat? I checked world History, Legends,and Folklore. I had my link in Atlantis. I published an article on Rama’s War with Atlantis and another one, Rama Atlantis War Kavatam periplus Port Window of Lemuria As explained in these articles, there seems to have been Four major civilizations then. Rama’s Empire, Atlantis Empire, Uighur Empire and Lemurian Empire. Of these Uighur was not very advanced and Lemuria which had been on the wane was trying to recoup. They were suppressed by the Atlantis people. In the Atlantis, Osiris’ son Horus entered into an alliance with Rama to defeat Seth who was trying to become independent in the Sumerian valley. ‘ King Atlas (King Of Atlantis) and Prince Osiris (heir to the throne) desired to create secondary domains where they could re-establish the Lemurian Empire . This intention was thwarted by the actions of Osiris’ younger brother, the Emperor Seth. As present ruler of the Libyan/Egyptian Empire (that covered all of Africa), Seth decided that with the fall of Atlantis his Empire (in league with the rebel Sons of Belial) was to be its last stronghold. He made it his goal to re-establish the Atlantean Empire with himself as its all-powerful, ‘divine right’ emperor (of the world). ‘conflicting objectives resulted in deadly warfare between Osiris and his brother Seth. Leading Osiris’s Egyptian armies was Osiris’ eldest son Horus. After Osiris’ unfortunate ‘death’, Horus succeeded his father as king of the Libyan/Egyptian Empire. Intuitively, Horus knew what would happen when they landed in Libya. He completely distrusted his uncle. Horus persistently warned his father about Seth’s stubbornness and treachery. Osiris, believing in the goodness of the human heart, initially ignored his son’s advice. Subsequently, Osiris landed in Libya and after Seth’s abdication became Emperor’ After the demise of Osiris, his son Horus entered into a pact with Rama Empire(Emperor Zata’ar’s eldest son, Prince Rama.) to defeat Seth, the usurper.’ The Atlantis army met with Rama’s Army in Rishi City, now in Pakistam. ‘Atlantis Drops A-Bomb on India The Lemurian Fellowship (an esoteric group formed in the 1930’s) lessons state: During the heyday of Atlantis and Rama, both the Ramayana and the Lemurian Fellowship agree that other advanced civilizations were also in existence. According to the Lemurian Fellowship the Osiris Civilization existed in what is today North Africa and the Mediterranean Basin, and the Uiger Empire ruled over what is today the Gobi Desert. Yet of all of the civilizations, Atlantis and Rama were supposedly the two most developed. These two cultures had developed advanced technology, which they shared between themselves and the rest of the world. It had been mainly developed in Atlantis and would seem like science fiction to us today, just as the Ramayana and the Mahabharata seem like science fiction. Not only did they have aircraft such as vimanas and valixi (as the Atlantean craft was called), they had weapons such as fireballs that could destroy a whole city…(etc.). According to the Lemurian Fellowship, as Atlantis and Rama reached the height of civilization, war broke out between them. The Atlanteans, a highly technical and war-like culture were bent on conquering the world. Subjugating the Rama Empire was an important step in their plan. An interesting episode in the Atlantean history as related by the Lemurian Fellowship involves the Atlanteans sending a well-equipped army to India inhttps://ramanisblog.in/2015/10/28/rama-used-atom-bomb-against-atlantis-mohenjo-daro/ — Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/ramanispodcast/message
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  2. Siva's Marriage Fire Burns Still Temple For Conjugal Bliss
  3. How Rama Conquered Sumeria
  4. Priest Becomes Siva's Wife Devi
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Vedic Practices in Islam Podcast

Above is the Video showing Shiva Linga in Mecca.

This was taken surreptitiously.

I received it.

I have written on the presence of Sanatana Dharma in pre Arabic period in the Middle East, how Saptha pathi, the Marriage vow was present there, Lord Murugan'(Subrahmanya, Karthikeya ) Tribe, the Peacock tribe is among the Yazidi and OM when flipped is 786 and more.

It is a known fact that Muslims plundered the kingdoms they have conquered and carted away valuables, including Idols , calling the Idol worshipers as ‘kafirs’

I am reproducing some photographic evidence.

The joke is that both Islam and Christianity which mock at Hinduism for worshiping Gods as Idols in the form of Man and animal (Hanuman,Varaha, Narasimha) have now ended up prayinga Stone(kaaba) and Symbol for addition, The Cross!

Now there is evidence that the Muslims carted a Shiva linga and had it installed it in Mecca and it is worshiped.

Shiv Linga in Mecca.

Muslims Worship Shiv Lingam At Mecca Masjid Al Haraam Says Islamic Site,

Prophets Uncle wrote Siva Sthuthi, A Prayer On Lord Shiva,

Sapthapathi of the Marriage ceremony of the Hindus and Navagrahas in Arabia, Listen to the Podcast.


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Weapons List Of Mahabharata Podcast

Weapons Used In Mahabharata Ramani On Indian History Hinduism

The Mahabharata war between the Kauravas and Panadvas was of epic proportions and it lasted for eighteen days.The Mahabharata war between the Kauravas and Panadvas was of epic proportions and it lasted for eighteen days. Millions were killed and only a few remained alive after the war. Please read my post on this. What were the weapons used and with what effect? The war started on Kartheeka Bahula Amavasya (end of the Kartheeka and the start of the Margasira lunar month), moon on Jyesta star, on Tuesday early morning.( This is under dispute, I shall be posting on this)List of Weapons used is explained in the Podcast.List includes Brahmastra, Pasupadastra and Narayanastra.  Millions were killed and only a few remained alive after the war. Please read my post on this. What were the weapons used and with what effect?   The war started on Kartheeka Bahula Amavasya (end of the Kartheeka and the start of the Margasira lunar month), moon on Jyesta star, on Tuesday early morning.( This is under dispute, I shall be posting on this) Solar eclipse also happened on that day and this Muhurth was kept by SriKrishna himself. As usual Krishna did not directly fix theMuhurta.Sahadeva fixed it and Krishna manipulated the Solar Eclipse to happen a Day earlier, knowing well it was started on the Day of Solar Eclipse the one who  chooses that date  would win. Duryodhana was tricked into fixing this date.This day was not the Amavasya, when Solar Eclipse happens, but a Day earlier. This Amavasya is called the Bodhayana Amavasya.  Asi , Special Sword of Brahma.Brahma performed a Yagna, when a demon-like being sprang from the midst of the sacrificial fires scattering flames all around. His teeth were sharp and terrible, stomach lean and skinny ,very tall ,slim and very powerful. Simultaneously, the earth started shaking, there were turmoil in the oceans, the forceful winds started howling all around, the trees started falling and being torn apart, and the meteors started blazing through the skies! Brahma declared: The ‘being’ I have conceived is Asi. It shall effect the destruction of the enemies of the gods and restore the Dharma.Upon this, the creature assumed the form of a blazing, sharp-edged sword, glowing like the flames at the end of the Kalpa.(Shantiparva,Mahabharata) Sudarsan Chakra. 2.Vishnu/Krishna’s Disk. Though Krishna vowed not to bear arms in the mahabharata War, he became angry at the rate Bhishma waskilling the Panadava Sena, He bore the Disk on His hand . As Bhishma Bowed and prayed Krishna reminding subtly that He had vowed not to bear arms Krishna withdrew it. 3.Chentu. A chentu is a horse whip which looks like a crooked stick, and is a typical attribute of  Lord Ayyanar, Krishna in his aspect as Rajagopala, and Shiva with Nandi.  The attribute of chentu, which is etymologically derived from a Tamil word, generally appears in Southern India, especially in Hindu images of Tamil Nadu state, India. This was used by all the warriors in the War. 4.The elephant/hathi goad or Ankusa (Sanskrit) . A tool employed in the handling and training of elephants. It consists of a hook (usually bronze or steel) which is attached to a handle.The hook is inserted into the elephant’s sensitive skin, either slightly or more deeply, to cause pain and induce the elephant to behave in a certain manner. 5.Kandiva, the Bow of Arjuna. This was given to him by Agni after Ajuna allowed Agni(Fire) to devour the Kandava Forest. This was kept in the custody of Varuna. Beside Lord Krishna no one except Arjuna could wield the bow in the mortal world. 6.Khatvanga is a long, club or staff created to be used as a weapon. It is a divine weapon of polysemic significance and accoutrement of chthonic deities and ‘left-handed path’ (Sanskrit: vamamarga) holy people in Dharmic Traditions such as Shaivism. 7.Narayanastra. One of the three Great weapons of Mass destruction, others being Brahmastra, Pasupatasta, Narayanstra would destroy anything and the only way to escape its wrath is to drop all the weapons and prostrate before it. Aswathama used it unsuccessfully and under instructions from Krishna Arjuna had it withdrawn. 8.Brahmastra-Though not used in the Mahabharata war, it is one of the Great weapons. Please read my post on this. 9.Pasupathstra.More at https://ramanisblog-in.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/ramanisblog.in/2014/06/17/weapons-used-in-mahabharata-war-list/amp/?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=16048091037490&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Framanisblog.in%2F2014%2F06%2F17%2Fweapons-used-in-mahabharata-war-list%2F


One of the three Great weapons of Mass destruction, others being Brahmastra, Pasupatasta, Narayanstra would destroy anything and the only way to escape its wrath is to drop all the weapons and prostrate before it.

Aswathama used it unsuccessfully and under instructions from Krishna Arjuna had it withdrawn.

8.Brahmastra-Though not used in the Mahabharata war, it is one of the Great weapons.

Please read my post on this.


Though this was obtained by Arjuna from Lord Shiva, Karna from Parasurama, Arjuna did not have the occasion to use this and Karna could not as he

was cursed to forget the launching Mantra, by Parasurama.

10.Aindra astra:
Presiding Deity: Indra, the god of weather
Weapon’s Effect: Would bring about a shower of arrows from the sky.

Used by both the sides.


Hinduism In Ancient World Documented, Practices

I have been running this blog since August, 2009 and during this period I have been researching Sanatana Dharma, ,its practices and its presence throughout the world. Reason for writing on Sanatana Dharma , as I had written earlier in my Page ‘ Why and What I write on Sanatana Dharma, Hinduism?’ is ..

I have found that the Youngsters , the Age group between 20-35, are quite curious and want to know more about Hinduism.

And they do not want to hear the answer that things are what they are in Hinduism and one should follow it.

But if one were to explain them in simple, yet in modern scientific terms , they are interested, ask for more and they become ardent followers of Hinduism.

The percentage of Readers for Ramani’s blog from the youth brigade outstrips the elder generation by quite a few yards.

And they ask me very pertinent , intelligent question, either in the form of comments or by personal email.

I wanted to provide material for their hunger.

The information in the Religious texts, Indian Philosophy is slightly difficult to follow as the concepts are very abstract and needs a careful study to understand their implication.

And reading in English from the West distort Hinduism, in most cases  because they were/are  deliberately done to malign Hinduism.

I am trying to provide information to provide as a sort of signpost for people to follow.

I provide the sources where people can read and research further.

I provide information direct from the sources in Sanskrit, simplify it, present in a language an average person can understand sans jargon.

Some times some difficult concepts are presented in such a simple manner, at times the full import of Philosophical implications may not be forthcoming.

But this provides people information to check further and seek clarification.


Now , as Technology is moving ahead, and people find less time to go through lengthy articles(my articles are because they are researched and sources have to be quoted with excerpts), I shall be Podcasting as well. This would enable people to get the information in less time. In these Podcasts, I will be explaining the presence of Hinduism throughout the world and Hinduism practices from original texts. For more information, you may, visit this, site wwww.ramanisblog.in. Ramani’s blog will continue .Podcast is an additional platform I shall be using.

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Sangam Classic Describes Brahmins Performing Murugan Yagnya Swamymalai

The misinformation about India and Hinduism , contrary to what people think, is not from One source, that of Foreigners, missionaries on the one hand and Pseudo Intellectuals from both from abroad and the local variety. This group is supplemented by another group, though present in all parts of India, is quite vociferous in Tamil Nadu. This group systematically misinforms people about Tamil, Tamil Culture and Tamil History. They peddle the now dead Aryan Invasion Invasion Theory. They insist, without studying Tamil , that Tamil is against Sanatana Dharma and Brahmins had infiltrated into Tamil Culture(?) and polluted Tamil way of Life. Through my articles for the past eleven years I have published articles to dispel this misinformation. Now, there is clamor in Tamil Nadu that Murugan is a Tamil God(?) , He is different from Subrahmanya and that Brahmins misled Tamils into believing that Subrahmanya is Murugan.And Brahmins do not worship Murugan, they do not name their children as Murugan, they do not perform Kavadi.This could be brushed aside but for the fact one gentleman who ekes out a living by speaking on Religion, especially on Tamil Literature that speak of Bhakti, had stated categorically that Brahmins imposed Subrahmanya as Murugan becuse they want to control Sudras(this term is not mine, but by the litterateur. I had written that Murugan is not a Tamil God in the sense that Murugan was called Subrahmanya in Saraswati Valley civilization and Murugan Kavadi is found among the artifacts at Harappa.Murugan worship spread throughout the world and one finds Murugan’s Peacock Tribe in Turkey.

Murugan Teaching Pranava To Siva at Thiruverakam

‘Sangam Classics speak of Murugan in detail. The first available Tamil Grammar book assigns a landmass as belonging to Murugan.One of the main constituents of Tamil Sangam Classics is Pathinenkeezhk Kanakku, Anthology of Eighteen Texts.The first among this is Thirumurugaatruppadai on Sri. Murugan.This was written by Nakkeerar.This work has six parts, each representing one Special Home of Murugan. Traditionally six Murugan temples are classified as Special and they are called Aarupadai Veedukal.They are, Palani,Thiruchendur,Swamymalai,Thiruthani, Thiruparankundram and Pazhamudircholai.Each of this six is praised in Thirumuraugaatruppadai.Thiruverakam is also known as Swamymalai and it is about twenty minutes run by car from Kumbakonam in Tamil Nadu.This is the place Murugan taught the Fifth Veda ( Pranava Veda) to Siva. Subrahmanya is Guru and His Father Siva is His disciple.Nakkerar describes the attributes of Brahmins and how they worship Murugan in Swamy malai ,Thiruverakam.I am providing English gist of the Text.I shall be Podcasting in detail about this in the next article.

Brahmins ,whose pedigree from Maternal and maternal side is impeccable,who practice the six duties of a Brahmin(

“Adhyaapanam Adhyayanam
Yajanam Yaajanam Tathaa
Daanam Pratigraham Chaiva

Adyayanam-Pracctice of reciting the Vedas, with meaning.

Adhyaapnan-Teaching of the Vedas along with the Astras(scientific Arms) and Satras(Ordinary weapons of war)

Yajanam-performance of the Yagnas and Yagas.Accepting Gifts,Donating to the Needy, and Not saving anything for the morrow but living on what is provided),who had spent Forty eight years in Learning and practicing a Life of Austerity and good character,waer Nine threaded Upaveeda( Three in a pair into three,total nine.One for Brahmacharya, One for Gruhastha and one In lieu of Uttareeya, Angavastra), raise Fire in Yangnyakund of three designs ,Square,Triangle and in the shape of a Bow, at an appropriate auspicious time, with Dhoti which was dried by body heat(meaning they wore Dhoti after bath, Brahmins take bath with Dhoti and after Bath wear a fresh Dhoti which was earlier dipped in water and wet and wear that before any occasion and Anushtanas).Then they, after Vedic Rites, keep both their handsover their Heads and chant the six letters Shadakshara of Subramanya,Saravanabava

திரு ஏரகம் Swamymalai

இருமூன்று எய்திய இயல்பினின் வழாஅது
இருவர்ச் சுட்டிய பல்வேறு தொல்குடி
அறுநான்கு இரட்டி இளமை நல்லியாண்டு
ஆறினிற் கழிப்பிய அறன்நவில் கொள்கை . . .180

மூன்றுவகைக் குறித்த முத்தீச் செல்வத்து
இருபிறப் பாளர் பொழுதறிந்து நுவல,
ஒன்பது கொண்ட மூன்றுபுரி நுண்ஞாண்
புலராக் காழகம் புலர உடீஇ,
உச்சிக் கூப்பிய கையினர் தற்புகழ்ந்து
ஆறெழுத்து அடக்கிய அருமறைக் கேள்வி
நாஇயல் மருங்கில் நவிலப் பாடி
விரையுறு நறுமலர் ஏந்திப் பெரிந்துஉவந்து
ஏரகத்து உறைதலும் உரியன்: அதான்று, https://ilakkiyam.com/iyal/22-tamil/iyal/sangailakkiyam/pathinenmerkanaku/ettuthogai/inguru-nooru/3774-thirumurugatrupadai

அந்தணர் வழிபடும் திரு ஏரகம்

( 177-189) (ஓதல், ஓதுவித்தல், வேட்டல், வேட் பித்தல், ஈதல், ஏற்றல் என்னும்) அறுவகையாய் உள்ள செயற் கடமையினின்றும் வழுவாமல், (தாய்க்குடி, தந்தைக்குடி என்னும்) இருவர் குடியையும் சுட்டிச் சொல்லத்தக்க பல்வேறு பழங்குடிகளில் பிறந்த— (அறுநான்கு இரட்டி= 6x 4 x 2=48) நாற்பத்தெட்டு நல்ல இளமை மிக்க ஆண்டுகளே நல்வழியில் கழித்த—அறங்கூறும் கொள்கை கொண்ட—(நாற்சதுரம், முச்சதுரம், வில்வடிவம் என்னும்) மூன்று வடிவாய் அமைத்துக் காக்கும் மூவகைத் தீயாகிய செல்வத்தை உடைய அந்தணர்கள் உரிய காலம் அறிந்து போற்றியுரைக்கும் வகையில், ஒரு புரிக்கு மூன்று நூல் வீதம் ஒன்பது நூல்களால் முறுக்கிய மூன்று புரிகள் கொண்ட நுண்ணிய பூணூலுடன், தோய்த்து உலராத உடையினை உடம்பிலேயே உலரும்படி உடுத்துக்கொண்டு, தலைமேலே குவித்த கைகளை உடையவராய், முருகனாகிய தன்னைப் போற்றிப் புகழ்ந்து, ஆறு எழுத்துக்களை (ஷடாட்சரம்) உள்ளடக்கிய அரிய மந்திர மறையை நாக்கு இயலும் அளவில் பயின்று பலமுறை ஓதி, மணம் மிக்க நல்ல மலர்களை ஏந்தித் தூவி வழிபட, அவ்வழிபாட்டிற்குப் பெரிதும் மகிழ்ந்து (சுவாமிமலை என்று கருதப்படுகின்ற) திரு ஏரகம் என்னும் திருப்பதியில் உறை தலையும் முருகன் உரிமையாகக் கொண்டவன். அந்தத் திரு வேரகம் அல்லாமலும்,-https://ta.m.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%88-%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%82%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%89%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%88%E0%AE%AF%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D/%E0%AE%89%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%88


Get Rid Of Negative Energy Amogha Siva Kavacha

There are quite a number 0f Mantras,Slokas,Stotras for warding off the effects of Black Magic and Negative Forces.Varaha Kavacha, Sri Mantra Rajapadam are quite powerful.There are also Mantras in Soundraya Lahari which would provide relief.

I have come across A Siva Mantra ,called Amogha Siva Kavacham , addressed to Shiva. This mantra is to be recited once a day, preferably in the morning, for forty five days.Begin on a Shukla Paksha( Waxing of the Moon) Chaturthi, Panchami,Shasti or Sapthami.

This Mantra Contains Vashatkaara, which is personification of Vishnu.

‘Viswam Vishum Vashat Karo..Vishnu Sahasranama

|| R^iShyaadinyaasaH ||

AUM brahmaR^iShaye namaH shirasi .
anuShTup Chandase namaH\, mukhe .
shrIsadaashivarudradevataaya namaH hR^idi .
hrIM shaktaye namaH paadayoH .
vaM kIlakaaya namaH naabhau.
shrI hrIM klImiti bIjaaya namaH guhye.
viniyogaaya namaH\, sarvaa~Nge .

|| atha karanyaasaH ||

AUM namo bhagavate jvalajjvaalaamaline AUM hrIM raaM
sarvashaktidhaanme iishaanaatmane a~NguShThaabhyaaM namaH .
AUM namo bhagavate jvalajjvaalaamaline AUM naM rIM
nityatR^iptidhaame tatpuruShaatmane tarjanIbhyaaM svaahaa.
AUM namo bhagavate jvalajjvaalaamaline AUM maM rUM
anaadishaktidhaanme aghoraatmane madhyamaabhyaaM vaShaT .
AUM namo bhagavate jvalajjvaalaamaline AUM shiM raiM
svatantrashaktidhaanme vaamadevaatmane anaabhikaabhyaaM hum .
AUM namo bhagavate jvalajjvaalaamaline AUM vaa rauM
aluptashaktidhaanme sadyojaataatmane kaniShThakaabhyaaM vauShaT .
AUM namo bhagavate jvalajjvaalaamaline AUM yaM raH
anaadishaktidhaanme sarvaatmane karatalakarapR^iShThaabhyaaM phaT .

.. hR^idayaadya~NganyaasaH ..

AUM namo bhagavate jvalajjvaalaamaline AUM hrIM raaM
sarvashaktidhaanme iishaanaatmane hR^idayaaya namaH .
AUM namo bhagavate jvalajjvaalaamaline AUM naM rIM
nityatR^iptidhaanme tatpuruShaatmane shirase svaahaa .
AUM namo bhagavate jvalajjvaalaamaline AUM maM rUM
anaadishaktidhaanme aghoraatmane shikhaaya vaShaT .
AUM namo bhagavate jvalajjvaalaamaline AUM shiM raiM
svatantrashaktidhaanme vaamadevaatmane kavachaaya hum .
AUM namo bhagavate jvalajjvaalaamaline AUM vaaM rauM
aluptashaktidhaanme sadyojaataatmane netratrayaaya vauShaT .
AUM namo bhagavate jvalajjvaalaamaline AUM yaM raH
anaadishaktidhaanme sarvaatmane astraaya phaT .

atha dhyaanam

vajradaMShTraM trinayanaM kaalakaNThamariMdamam .
sahasrakaramapyugraM vande shambhumumaapatim .

|| kavacha||

namaskR^itya mahaadeva.n vishvavyaapinamIshvaram .
vaxye shivamaya.n varma sarvaraxaakara.n nR^iNaam .. 1..

shucau deshe samaasIno yathaavatkalpitaasanaH .
jitendriyo jitapraaNashchintayecChivamavyam .. 2..

hatpuNDarIkaantarasa.nniviShTa.n svatejasaa vyaaptanabho.avakaasham .
atIndriya.n sUxmamanantamaadya.n dhyaayet paraanandamaya.n mahesham .. 3..

dhyaanaavadhUtaakhilakarmabandhashcira.n chidaandanimagnachetaaH .
ShaDaxaranyaasasamaahitaatmaa shaivena kuryaat kavachena raxaam .. 4..

maa.n paatu devo.akhiladevataatmaa sa.nsaarakUpe patita.n gabhIre .
tannaama divya.n varamantramUla.n dhunotu me sarvamagha.n hR^idistham .. 5..

sarvatra maa.n raxatu vishvamUrtirjyotirmyaanandaghanashchidaatmaa .
aNoraNIyaanurushaktirekaH sa iishvaraH paatu bhayaadasheShaat .. 6..

yo bhUsvarUpeNa bibharti vishva.n paayaat sa bhUmergirisho.aShTamUrtiH .
yo.apaa.n svarUpeNa nR^iNaa.n karoti sa.njIvana.n so.avatu maa.n jalebhyaH .. 7..

kalpaavasaane bhuvanaani dagdhvaa sarvaaNi yo nR^ityati bhUrilIlaH .
sa kaalarudro.avatu maa.n davaagnervaatyaadibhIterakhilaachcha taapaat .. 8..

pradIptavidyutkanakaavabhaaso vidyaavaraabhItikuThaarapaaNiH .
chaturmukhastatpuruShastrinetraH praachyaa.n sthita.n raxatu maamajastram .. 9..

kuThaaravedaa~NkushapaashashUlakapaalaDhakkaaxaguNaan dadhaanaH .
chaturmukho nIlaruchistrinetraH paayaadaghoro dishi daxiNasyaam .. 10..

kude.nndusha~NkhasphaTikaavabhaaso vedaaxamaalaavaradaabhayaa~NkaH .
tryaxashcaturvaktra uruprabhaavaH sadyo.adhijaato.avatu maa.n pratIchaam .. 11..

varaaxamaalaabhayaTa~NkahastaH sarojaki~njalkasamaanavarNaH .
trilochanashcaaruchaturmukho maa.n paayaadudicyaa.n dishi vaamadevaH .. 12..

vedaabhayeShTaa~NkushapaashaTa~Nka kapaalaDhakkaaxashUlapaaNiH .
sitadyutiH pa~ncamukho.avataanmaa mIshaana uurdhva.n paramaprakaashaH .. 13..

mUrdhdaanamavyaanmama cha.ndramaulirbhaala.n mamaavyaadatha bhaalanetraH .
netre mamaavyaad bhaganetrahaarI naasaa.n sadaa raxatua vishvanaathaH .. 14..

paayaachChutI me shrutigItakIrtiH kapolamavyaat satata.n kapaalI .
vaktra.n sadaa raxatu pa~nchavaktro jihvaa.n sadaa raxatu vedajivhaH .. 15..

kaNTha.n girIsho.avatu nIlakaNThaH paNidvaya.n paatu pinaakapaaNiH .
dormUlamavyaanmama dharmabaahurvaxaHsthala.n daxamakhaantako.avyaat .. 16..

mamodara.n paatu girIndradhanvaa madhya.n mamaavyaanmadanaantakaarI.
herambataato mama paatu naabhi.n paayaat kaTI dhUrjaTirIshvaro me .. 17..

uurudvaya.n paatu kuberamitro jaanudvaya.n me jagadIshvaro.avyaat .
ja~Nghaayuga.n pu~Ngavaketuravyaat paadau mamaavyaat suravandyapaadaH .. 18..

maheshvaraH paatu dinaadiyaame maa.n madhyayaame.avatu vaamadevaH .
triyambakaH paatu tR^itIyayaame vR^iShadhvajaH paatu dinaantyayaame .. 19..

paayaannishaadau shashishekharo maa.n ga~Ngaadharo raxatu maa.n nishIthe .
gaurIpatiH paatu nishaava.nsaane mR^ityu~njayo raxatu sarvakaalam .. 20..

antaHsthita.n raxatu sha~Nkaro maa.n sthaaNuH sadaa paatu bahiHsthita.n maam .
tadantare paatu patiH pashUnaa.n sadaashivo raxatu maa.n samantaat .. 21..

tiShThantamavyaabhduvakaikanaathaH paayaat vrajanta.n pramathadhinaathaH .
vedaantavedyo.avatu maa.n niShaNNa.n maamavyayaH paatu shivaH shayaanam .. 22..

maargeShu maa.n raxatu nIlakaNThaH shailaadidurgeShu puratrayaariH .
araNyavaasaadimahaapravaase paayaanmR^igavyaadha udaarashaktiH .. 23..

kalpaantakaaTopapaTuprakopaH sphuTaaTTahaasochchalitaaNDakoshaH .
ghoraarisenaarNavadurnivaara mahaabhayaad raxatu vIrabhadraH .. 24..

pattyashvamaata~NgaghaTaavarUtha sahasralaxaayutakoTibhIShaNam .
axauhiNInaa.n shatamaatataayinaa.n ChindyaanmR^iDo ghorakuThaaradhaarayaa .. 25..

nihantu dasyUn pralayaanalaarchirjvalat trishUla.n tripuraantakasya .
shaardUlasi.nharxavR^ikaadihi.nstraan sa.ntraasayatvIshadhanuH pinaakam .. 26..

durbhixadurvyasanadussahaduryashaa.nsi .
utpaatataapaviShabhItimasad grahaartivyaadhI.nshca
naashayatu me jagataamadhIshaH .. 27..

AUM namo bhagavate sadaashivaaya sakalatattvaatmakaaya
sakalatatvavihaaraaya sakalalokaikakatre sakalalokaikabhatre
sakalalokakaikahatre sakalalokakaikagurave sakalalokaikasaaxiNe
sakalanigamaguhyaaya sakalavarapradaaya sakaladuritaarttibha~njanaaya
sakalajagadabhaya.nkaaraaya sakalalokaikasha~Nkaraaya
shashaa~Nkashekharaaya shaashvata nijaabhaasaaya nirguNaaya
nirupamaaya nIrUpaaya niraabhaasaaya niraamaaya niShprapa~njaaya
niShkala~Nkaaya nirdvandvaaya nissa~Ngaaya nirmalaaya nirgamaaya
nityarUpavibhavaaya nirupamavibhavaaya niraadhaaraaya
paramashaantaprakaashatejorupaaya jaya jaya mahaarudra mahaaraudra
bhadraavataara duHkhadaavadaaraNa mahaabhairava kaalabhairava
kalpaantabhairava kapaalamaalaadhara
aadia ayudha bhIShaNakara sahasramukha da.nShTraakaraala
naagendrahaara naagendravalaya naagendracharmadhara mR^ityu~njaya
tryambaka tripuraantaka virUpaaxa vishveshvara vishvarupa
vR^iShabhavaahana viShabhUShaNa vishvatomukha sarvato raxa raxa maa.n
jvala jvala mahaamR^ityubhayamapamR^ityubhaya.n naashaya naashaya
viShasarpabhaya.n shamaya shamaya chorabhaya.n maaraya maaraya mama
shatrUnuccaaTayoccaaTaya shUlena vidaaraaya vidaaraaya kha~Ngena
Chindhi Chindhi khaTvaa~Ngena vipothaya vipothaya musalena niShpeShaya
niShpeShaya baaNai sa.ntaaDaya sa.ntaaDaya raxaa.nsi bhIShaya bhIShaya
bhUtaani vidraavaya vidraavaya
kUShmaaNDavetaalamaarIgaNabrahmaraaxasaan sa.ntraasaya sa.ntraasaya
maamabhaya.n kuru kuru vitrasta.n maamaashvaasayaashvaasaya
narakabhayaanmaamudhdaaraayodhdaaraya sa.njIvaya sa.njIvaya xuttR^iDbhyaa.n
maamaapyaayayaapyaayaya duHkhaatura.n maamaanandayaanandaya
shvakavachena maamaachChaadayaachChaadaya tryambaka sadaashiva
namaste namaste namaste .

iti shrIskaande mahaapuraaNe ekaashItisaahasrayaa.n tR^itIye
brahmottarakhaNDe amoghashivakavacha.n sampUrNam .

|| ருஷ்யாதிந்யாஸ: ||

ஓம் ப்ரஹ்மருஷயே நம: ஷிரஸி .
அனுஷ்டுப் சந்தஸே நம:\, முகே .
ஸ்ரீஸதாஷிவருத்ரதேவதாய நம: ஹ்ருதி .
ஹ்ரீம் ஷக்தயே நம: பாதயோ: .
வம் கீலகாய நம: நாபௌ.
ஸ்ரீ ஹ்ரீம் க்லீமிதி பீஜாய நம: குஹ்யே.
விநியோகாய நம:\, ஸர்வாங்கே .

|| அத கரந்யாஸ: ||
ஓம் நமோ பகவதே ஜ்வலஜ்ஜ்வாலாமலினே ஓம் ஹ்ரீம் ராம்
ஸர்வஷக்திதாந்மே ஈஷானாத்மனே அங்குஷ்டாப்யாம் நம: .
ஓம் நமோ பகவதே ஜ்வலஜ்ஜ்வாலாமலினே ஓம் நம் ரீம்
நித்யத்ருப்திதாமே தத்புருஷாத்மனே தர்ஜநீப்யாம் ஸ்வாஹா.
ஓம் நமோ பகவதே ஜ்வலஜ்ஜ்வாலாமலினே ஓம் மம் ரூம்
அநாதிஷக்திதான்மே அகோராத்மனே மத்யமாப்யாம் வஷட் .
ஓம் நமோ பகவதே ஜ்வலஜ்ஜ்வாலாமலினே ஓம் ஷிம் ரைம்
ஸ்வதந்த்ரஷக்திதாந்மே வாமதேவாத்மனே அநாபிகாப்யாம் ஹும் .
ஓம் நமோ பகவதே ஜ்வலஜ்ஜ்வாலாமலினே ஓம் வா ரௌம்
அலுப்தஷக்திதாந்மே ஸத்யோஜாதாத்மனே கனிஷ்டகாப்யாம் வௌஷட் .
ஓம் நமோ பகவதே ஜ்வலஜ்ஜ்வாலாமலினே ஓம் யம் ர:
அநாதிஷக்திதாந்மே ஸர்வாத்மனே கரதலகரப்ருஷ்டாப்யாம் பட் .

.. ஹ்ருதயாத்யங்கந்யாஸ: ..
ஓம் நமோ பகவதே ஜ்வலஜ்ஜ்வாலாமலினே ஓம் ஹ்ரீம் ராம்
ஸர்வஷக்திதாந்மே ஈஷாநாத்மனே ஹ்ருதயாய நம: .
ஓம் நமோ பகவதே ஜ்வலஜ்ஜ்வாலாமலினே ஓம் நம் ரீம்
நித்யத்ருப்திதாந்மே தத்புருஷாத்மனே ஷிரஸே ஸ்வாஹா .
ஓம் நமோ பகவதே ஜ்வலஜ்ஜ்வாலாமலினே ஓம் மம் ரூம்
அநாதிஷக்திதாந்மே அகோராத்மனே ஷிகாய வஷட் .
ஓம் நமோ பகவதே ஜ்வலஜ்ஜ்வாலாமலினே ஓம் ஷிம் ரைம்
ஸ்வதந்த்ரஷக்திதாந்மே வாமதேவாத்மனே கவசாய ஹும் .
ஓம் நமோ பகவதே ஜ்வலஜ்ஜ்வாலாமலினே ஓம் வாம் ரௌம்
அலுப்தஷக்திதாந்மே ஸத்யோஜாதாத்மனே நேத்ரத்ரயாய வௌஷட் .
ஓம் நமோ பகவதே ஜ்வலஜ்ஜ்வாலாமலினே ஓம் யம் ர:
அநாதிஷக்திதாந்மே ஸர்வாத்மனே அஸ்த்ராய பட் .

அத த்யானம்
வஜ்ரதம்ஷ்ட்ரம் த்ரிநயனம் காலகண்டமரிம்தமம் .
ஸஹஸ்ரகரமப்யுக்ரம் வந்தே ஷம்புமுமாபதிம் .

|| கவச||

நமஸ்க்ருத்ய மஹாதேவம் விஷ்வவ்யாபினமீஷ்வரம் .
வயே ஷிவமயம் வர்ம ஸர்வரஆகரம் ந்ருணாம் .. ௧..

ஷுசௌ தேஷே ஸமாஸீனோ யதாவத்கல்பிதாஸன: .
ஜிதேன்த்ரியோ ஜிதப்ராணஷ்சிந்தயேச்சிவமவ்யம் .. ௨..

ஹத்புண்டரீகாந்தரஸம்நிவிஷ்டம் ஸ்வதேஜஸா வ்யாப்தனபோஅவகாஷம் .
அதீந்த்ரியம் ஸூமமனந்தமாத்யம் த்யாயேத் பரானந்தமயம் மஹேஷம் .. ௩..

த்யானாவதூதாகிலகர்மபந்தஷ்சிரம் சிதாந்தனிமக்னசேதா: .
ஷடஅரந்யாஸஸமாஹிதாத்மா ஷைவேன குர்யாத் கவசேன ரஆம் .. ௪..

மாம் பாது தேவோஅகிலதேவதாத்மா ஸம்ஸாரகூபே பதிதம் கபீரே .
தந்னாம திவ்யம் வரமந்த்ரமூலம் துனோது மே ஸர்வமகம் ஹ்ருதிஸ்தம் .. ௫..

ஸர்வத்ர மாம் ரஅது விஷ்வமூர்திர்ஜ்யோதிர்ம்யானந்தகனஷ்சிதாத்மா .
அணோரணீயானுருஷக்திரேக: ஸ ஈஷ்வர: பாது பயாதஷேஷாத் .. ௬..

யோ பூஸ்வரூபேண பிபர்தி விஷ்வம் பாயாத் ஸ பூமேர்கிரிஷோஅஷ்டமூர்தி: .
யோஅபாம் ஸ்வரூபேண ந்ருணாம் கரோதி ஸம்ஜீவனம் ஸோஅவது மாம் ஜலேப்ய: .. ௭..

கல்பாவஸானே புவனாநி தக்த்வா ஸர்வாணி யோ ந்ருத்யதி பூரிலீல: .
ஸ காலருத்ரோஅவது மாம் தவாக்னேர்வாத்யாதிபீதேரகிலாச்ச தாபாத் .. ௮..

ப்ரதீப்தவித்யுத்கனகாவபாஸோ வித்யாவராபீதிகுடாரபாணி: .
சதுர்முகஸ்தத்புருஷஸ்த்ரினேத்ர: ப்ராச்யாம் ஸ்திதம் ரஅது மாமஜஸ்த்ரம் .. ௯..

குடாரவேதாங்குஷபாஷஷூலகபாலடக்காஅகுணாந் ததான: .
சதுர்முகோ நீலருசிஸ்த்ரிநேத்ர: பாயாதகோரோ திஷி தஇணஸ்யாம் .. ௧0..

குதேம்ந்துஷங்கஸ்படிகாவபாஸோ வேதாஅமாலாவரதாபயாங்க: .
த்ர்யஅஷ்சதுர்வக்த்ர உருப்ரபாவ: ஸத்யோஅதிஜாதோஅவது மாம் ப்ரதீசாம் .. ௧௧..

வராஅமாலாபயடங்கஹஸ்த: ஸரோஜகிந்ஜல்கஸமானவர்ண: .
த்ரிலோசனஷ்சாருசதுர்முகோ மாம் பாயாதுதிச்யாம் திஷி வாமதேவ: .. ௧௨..
வேதாபயேஷ்டாங்குஷபாஷடங்க கபாலடக்காஅஷூலபாணி: .

ஸிதத்யுதி: பஞ்சமுகோஅவதாந்மா மீஷான ஊர்த்வம் பரமப்ரகாஷ: .. ௧௩..

மூர்த்தானமவ்யாந்மம சம்த்ரமௌலிர்பாலம் மமாவ்யாதத பாலநேத்ர: .
நேத்ரே மமாவ்யாத் பகநேத்ரஹாரீ நாஸாம் ஸதா ரஅதுஅ விஷ்வநாத: .. ௧௪..

பாயாச்சுதீ மே ஷ்ருதிகீதகீர்தி: கபோலமவ்யாத் ஸததம் கபாலீ .
வக்த்ரம் ஸதா ரஅது பஞ்சவக்த்ரோ ஜிஹ்வாம் ஸதா ரஅது வேதஜிவ்ஹ: .. ௧௫..

கண்டம் கிரீஷோஅவது நீலகண்ட: பணித்வயம் பாது பிநாகபாணி: .
தோர்மூலமவ்யாந்மம தர்மபாஹுர்வஅ:ஸ்தலம் தஅமகாந்தகோஅவ்யாத் .. ௧௬..

மமோதரம் பாது கிரீந்த்ரதந்வா மத்யம் மமாவ்யாந்மதநாந்தகாரீ.
ஹேரம்பதாதோ மம பாது நாபிம் பாயாத் கடீ தூர்ஜடிரீஷ்வரோ மே .. ௧௭..

ஊருத்வயம் பாது குபேரமித்ரோ ஜாநுத்வயம் மே ஜகதீஷ்வரோஅவ்யாத் .
ஜங்காயுகம் புங்கவகேதுரவ்யாத் பாதௌ மமாவ்யாத் ஸுரவந்த்யபாத: .. ௧௮..

மஹேஷ்வர: பாது திநாதியாமே மாம் மத்யயாமேஅவது வாமதேவ: .
த்ரியம்பக: பாது த்ருதீயயாமே வ்ருஷத்வஜ: பாது திநாந்த்யயாமே .. ௧௯..

பாயாந்நிஷாதௌ ஷஷிஷேகரோ மாம் கங்காதரோ ரஅது மாம் நிஷீதே .
கௌரீபதி: பாது நிஷாவம்ஸானே ம்ருத்யுஞ்ஜயோ ரஅது ஸர்வகாலம் .. ௨0..

அந்த:ஸ்திதம் ரஅது ஷங்கரோ மாம் ஸ்தாணு: ஸதா பாது பஹி:ஸ்திதம் மாம் .
ததந்தரே பாது பதி: பஷூனாம் ஸதாஷிவோ ரஅது மாம் ஸமன்தாத் .. ௨௧..

திஷ்டந்தமவ்யாப்துவகைகநாத: பாயாத் வ்ரஜந்தம் ப்ரமததிநாத: .
வேதாந்தவேத்யோஅவது மாம் நிஷண்ணம் மாமவ்யய: பாது ஷிவ: ஷயாநம் .. ௨௨..

மார்கேஷு மாம் ரஅது நீலகண்ட: ஷைலாதிதுர்கேஷு புரத்ரயாரி: .
அரண்யவாஸாதிமஹாப்ரவாஸே பாயாந்ம்ருகவ்யாத உதாரஷக்தி: .. ௨௩..

கல்பாந்தகாடோபபடுப்ரகோப: ஸ்புடாட்டஹாஸோச்சலிதாண்டகோஷ: .
கோராரிஸேனார்ணவதுர்நிவார மஹாபயாத் ரஅது வீரபத்ர: .. ௨௪..

பத்த்யஷ்வமாதங்ககடாவரூத ஸஹஸ்ரலஆயுதகோடிபீஷணம் .
அஔஹிணீனாம் ஷதமாததாயினாம் சிந்த்யாந்ம்ருடோ கோரகுடாரதாரயா .. ௨௫..

நிஹந்து தஸ்யூன் ப்ரலயானலார்சிர்ஜ்வலத் த்ரிஷூலம் த்ரிபுராந்தகஸ்ய .
ஷார்தூலஸிம்ஹறவ்ருகாதிஹிம்ஸ்த்ரான் ஸம்த்ராஸயத்வீஷதனு: பினாகம் .. ௨௬..

து:ஸ்வப்நதுஷ்ஷகுனதுர்கதிதௌர்மனஸ்ய துர்பிஅதுர்வ்யஸநதுஸ்ஸஹதுர்யஷாம்ஸி .
உத்பாததாபவிஷபீதிமஸத் க்ரஹார்திவ்யாதீம்ஷ்ச நாஷயது மே ஜகதாமதீஷ: .. ௨௭..

ஓம் நமோ பகவதே ஸதாஷிவாய ஸகலதத்த்வாத்மகாய
ஸகலதத்வவிஹாராய ஸகலலோகைககத்ரே ஸகலலோகைகபத்ரே
ஸகலலோககைகஹத்ரே ஸகலலோககைககுரவே ஸகலலோகைகஸாஇணே
ஸகலநிகமகுஹ்யாய ஸகலவரப்ரதாய ஸகலதுரிதார்த்திபஞ்ஜநாய
ஸகலஜகதபயம்காராய ஸகலலோகைகஷங்கராய
ஷஷாங்கஷேகராய ஷாஷ்வத நிஜாபாஸாய நிர்குணாய
நிருபமாய நீரூபாய நிராபாஸாய நிராமாய நிஷ்ப்ரபஞ்ஜாய
நிஷ்கலங்காய நிர்த்வந்த்வாய நிஸ்ஸங்காய நிர்மலாய நிர்கமாய
நித்யரூபவிபவாய நிருபமவிபவாய நிராதாராய
பரமஷாந்தப்ரகாஷதேஜோருபாய ஜய ஜய மஹாருத்ர மஹாரௌத்ர
பத்ராவதார து:கதாவதாரண மஹாபைரவ காலபைரவ
கல்பாந்தபைரவ கபாலமாலாதர
ஆதிஅ அயுத பீஷணகர ஸஹஸ்ரமுக தம்ஷ்ட்ராகரால
நாகேந்த்ரஹார நாகேந்த்ரவலய நாகேந்த்ரசர்மதர ம்ருத்யுஞ்ஜய
த்ர்யம்பக த்ரிபுராந்தக விரூபாஅ விஷ்வேஷ்வர விஷ்வருப
வ்ருஷபவாஹன விஷபூஷண விஷ்வதோமுக ஸர்வதோ ரஅ ரஅ மாம்
ஜ்வல ஜ்வல மஹாம்ருத்யுபயமபம்ருத்யுபயம் நாஷய நாஷய
விஷஸர்பபயம் ஷமய ஷமய சோரபயம் மாரய மாரய மம
ஷத்ரூனுச்சாடயோச்சாடய ஷூலேன விதாராய விதாராய கங்கேன
சிந்தி சிந்தி கட்வாங்கேன விபோதய விபோதய முஸலேன நிஷ்பேஷய
நிஷ்பேஷய பாணை ஸம்தாடய ஸம்தாடய ரஆம்ஸி பீஷய பீஷய
பூதாநி வித்ராவய வித்ராவய
கூஷ்மாண்டவேதாலமாரீகணப்ரஹ்மராஅஸாந் ஸம்த்ராஸய ஸம்த்ராஸய
மாமபயம் குரு குரு வித்ரஸ்தம் மாமாஷ்வாஸயாஷ்வாஸய
நரகபயாந்மாமுத்தாராயோத்தாரய ஸம்ஜீவய ஸம்ஜீவய உத்த்ருட்ப்யாம்
மாமாப்யாயயாப்யாயய து:காதுரம் மாமானந்தயானந்தய
ஷ்வகவசேன மாமாச்சாதயாச்சாதய த்ர்யம்பக ஸதாஷிவ
நமஸ்தே நமஸ்தே நமஸ்தே .

இதி ஸ்ரீஸ்காந்தே மஹாபுராணே ஏகாஷீதிஸாஹஸ்ரயாம் த்ருதீயே
ப்ரஹ்மோத்தரகண்டே அமோகஷிவகவசம் ஸம்பூர்ணம்.


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Vairamuthu Fake Quote Reference Andal Deva Dasi Video

It is chic among self styled rationalists of Tamil Nadu to take a jibe at Hinduism at every opportunity. They pretend to be Secular and act as if they respect all religions. The meaning of respecting all religions is partaking in Ramzan Feast,Taking cake and celebrating Christmas,informing people that but for Christians Education in India would have been a myth and Indians would have remained barbaric;Tamil language ,Tamils and Tamil culture is against Vedic way of living,Brahmins are the root cause of evil in society ( funny part is that all these people have Brahmin Lawyers,Doctors ,Brahmin Auditors,Brahmin advisors): portrayal of Hindu Puranas and Ithihasas as Porn.

Tamil film lyricist Vairamuthu,who portrays himself as A Rationalist and follower of Self Respect movement and a Denier of Vedic way of living( it is another matter that he got married the Vedic way with a Brahmin priest officiating😂) commented a couple of years back that Sri. Andal, presiding Deity at Srivilliputhur, consort of Sri Vishnu as Deva dasi, in a meeting. When he faced public ire he initially said he had quoted from a research paper from Indiana? Later he gave out a statement that Andal was like his mother!

Portion of the book showing original quote

Now evidence has come out that the reference Vairamuthu quoted is non existent.Watch the video.For those who can not follow Tamil, I shall provide gist of the video in English.

Fake reference Of Vairamuthu exposed.

How A Fake reference was used

The said reference quoted by Vairamuthu, according to him was from a study from Indiana University and that he had referred to a research paper on Andal .

  • The first point of reference is a Book. The book is not from Indiana, It is from India, Published by Indian Institute for Advanced Studies, Published From Shimla, India.
  • The book was compiled and edited by Sri.S.C. Malik.
  • In this book there is a chapter on Indian Movements :Some Aspects of Dissent Protest and Reform .( University of Chicago Library).This was retrieved from the Chicago Library.
  • This portion in the book edited by S.C.Malik says Andal was a Devadasi in SriRangam, who lived and died there and they had quoted the source as 36.
  • The article was by Mr. Narayanan and Mr. Veludhath Kesavan.
  • This source is page no five of Sri.Gopinath Rao’s Lecture published in 1923.
  • The said reference by Gopinath Rao states that ‘Periyalwar’s daughter Andal , on coming of Age refused to marry anyone except Si.Ranganatha , Sri Rangam;Ranganatha appeared in a dream to Periyalvar and instructed him to bring Andal to Sri Rangam, Ranganatha’s House. Accordingly Periyalvar left Andal at Sri Rangam Ranganatha Temple and Periyalvar returned to his Home at Srivilliputtur..
  • There is no mention of the word Deva dasi anywhere in the above reference.

What is eveident is that Vairamuthu had deliberately quoted a Nonexistent quote to vilify Andal and Hinduism These half baked self appointed literati and custodians of Tamil Language specialize in ridiculing Hinduism and Tamil. Fact is they neither Know Tamizh nor Hinduism. ,What they know in Tamizh is a few catchy phrases from Tamil Literature learnt at college, if they had reached that stage at all, without going deep into the subject of Tamil.And of course belong to Cinema industry.That’s enough in Tamil Nadu to don the mantle of an Intellectual and a Rationalist. As to their knowledge of Hinduism……..Nunniyanool pala Karpinum…Thirukkural,

நுண்ணிய நூல்பல கற்பினும் மற்றுந்தன்
உண்மை யறிவே மிகும்.
மு.வரதராசன் விளக்கம்:

ஒருவன் நுட்பமான நூல் பலவற்றைக் கற்றாலும் ஊழுக்கு ஏற்றவாறு அவனுக்கு உள்ள தாகும் அறிவே மேம்பட்டுத் தோன்றும்.
சாலமன் பாப்பையா விளக்கம்:

பேதை ஆக்குவதற்கு உரிய விதி நமக்கு இருந்தால், நுட்பமான கருத்துக்களை உடைய பல நூல்களைக் கற்றாலும் இயல்பான அறிவே இருக்கும். ( அறிவு விரிவ பெறாது).
சிவயோகி சிவக்குமார் விளக்கம்:

நுட்பம் நிறைந்த நூல்கள் பல படித்தாலும் மாறாக பிறவியால் பெற்ற உண்மையான அறிவே மிகும்.
English Couplet 373:

In subtle learning manifold though versed man be,
‘The wisdom, truly his, will gain supremacy.
Couplet Explanation:

Although (a man) may study the most polished treatises, the knowledge which fate has decreed to him will still prevail.
Transliteration(Tamil to English):

nuNNiya noolpala kaRpinum matr



Varnas Caste Tamil Lexicon 16 Century Agrees With Vedic Concept

It is often stated that the Caste system is found only in Sanatana Dharma and Sanskrit Texts. Caste is a division of social responsibility, arrived at after a careful observation of the functioning of the society. This was misinterpreted to mean that Caste awas by Birth and was used to dominate other groups by a single group .This was later utilised by the invaders as a tool to divide and rule India.Tamil is ancient language belonging to Dravidian Language groups. Dravida means , ‘South “indicating peple living in South(that is south of Vidhya Mountains)This again was used to float a now discredited Aryan Invasion Theory. There was and still a misinformation campaign that Tamil and Tamils were against Sanatana Dharma and Sanskrit. This is incorrect andI have written quite a number of articles disproving this attempt at dividing India. Ancient Tamil Grammar work, Tholkaapiyam speaks of Vedas and many Sangam Classical period literature speak of Vedic way of Life. And Tamils had seven distinct type of Castes, including the Four enumerated in Vedic Texts.I am proving quotes from Later Tamil Lexico ,’Choodamani Nikandu’ belonging to the Period of Krishna Devaraya(1471- 1521).This book was written by Mandala Purusha, a Jain Monk.

ஓதல், ஓதுவித்தல், வேட்டல், வேட்பித்தல், ஈதல், ஏற்றல் (வேட்டல் – யாகம்செய்தல்) Brahmin Duties Reciting Vedas;Imparting Vedas:Performance of Yagnyas;Assisting others to perform Yangnyas;Accepting Gifts from others; Philanthropy;

Duties of Kshatria.ஓதல்( learning Vedas), வேட்டல்(Acquisition of Wealth), ஈதல்( Philanthropy), உலகோம்பல்( Protection of the World), படைக்கலம்பயிலல்(Training in the use of Arms, போர்செய்தீட்டல்( Planning for War).

Duties of Vaisya.ஓதல்( Learning Vedas), வேட்டல்(Acquisition of Wealth), வேளாண்மை(Agriculture), வாணிகம்( Business/Enterprise), பசுக்காத்தல்( *Protecting Cows),

Duties of Sudras.

பசுக்காத்தல்(* Protecting Cows, Wealth), பொருளீட்டல்( Acquisition of Wealth), பயிரிடல்( Trilling), புராணாதிகளையோதல்(Studying Puranas and Ithihasas), ஈதல்(Philanthropy ), அந்தணா

முதலியோர்க்கு அநுகூலமாகிய  தொழில் செய்தல்( Engage in Works that would help others including Brahmins)

* Protecting Cows indicates protection of weak people, including Cows(Among animals)


Twelve Castes Among Tamils.

The Link for the book. <a href=””>Ancient Indian History and Civilization by Surendranath Jain

‘ 1. Maruta makkal or tribes of ploughmen (ulavar) inhabiting fertile, well-
watered tracts (panai) and living in villages called ur,
2. Kuravar makkal (or hill people who are foresters, make charms, and tell
fortunes and may come out of the forest to work in the panai,
3. Mullai makkal (or pastoralists, also called ayar (cowmen), kovalar
(shepherds), and idaiyar (cowherd or shepherd),
4. Neytal makkal ( or fishing people living in large coastal villages called
pattinam or small ones called pakkam, and
5. Palai makkal or people of the dry plains called eyinar. maravar, and veIar
who are hunters of both the dry plains and the forest.’

It appears that there were four castes, then further divisions took place.

It became seven and then twelve.



How Tamils Celebrated Indra Festival Silappadikaaram

The Chief of Devas, Indra holds a special place in Tamil Classics. He was included as One of the Primary Deities assigned to each region(there were five geographical regions in Tamilzhakam, according to Sangam Classics), others being Cheyon(son of Siva, Murugan,Maayon(Vishnu) Varuna, and Kotravai(Durga).Special importance was given to Indra and every year a Festival was held in his Honour. This is the forerunner of the present Valentine’s Day. Tamil Literature speaks highly of this festival. It was believed that failure to conduct the festival shall invite the wrath of Indra who would destroy the city by flooding it. It may be noted that Indra is the God of Thunder in Vedic texts and Varuna,the God of Water/Ocean. Failure to conduct this festival by the Chozhas resulted in the Chozha port city of Poompuhar being swallowed up by the sea.9 Poompuhar, aka Keverippommpattinam, was excavated and it has been dated at 12,000 years ago. You may read my article here.I am providing details how the festival for Indra was celebrated by Tamil Chozhas.This excerpt is from Silappadikaaram, one of the Five Epics of Tamils, the others being Manimekalai,Kundalakesi,Valayapathi and Chevaka Chintamani.Silappadikaaram was written by a Jain Monk,Ilango Adigal, brother of Chera King, Cheran Senguttuvan.The epic is special in grammar in that each canro has one line running through the entire Canto, no full stops.It is called Thodar Nilaich cheyyul, meaning that the poem continues.The description of How Indra Festival, Indra Vizha in Tamil, is found in Indira Vizha Ur Edutha Kaathai( How the city Celebrated the Indira Festival).

#I have provided English Translation by Google, which is not good, though it conveys the essence. I Have corrected some lines. Shall edit this wiki page and update shortly.

City view

Poompuhar was exquisite in the morning; In the morning light, its balconies, towers, temple sites, and forums were beautiful.

The city was bustling; Most of the merchants lived prosperously.; They brought colony brought pride to the city.

Desert Bakkam

The interior of the city was called Maruvoorpaakkam.. Pattinapakkam is the area closest to the beach.Maruvoorpakkam was an Industrial and commercial area. Traders Professionals lived there. People of Higher status lived in the other area

The city was enriched and beautified by terraced houses, ornate seats, mansions with eye-catching windows, glamorous Greek houses on false shores, and houses built on the banks of water bodies inhabited by foreigners.

The streets were individually categorized industry- wise; Those who sold Perfumed Lived in a Street (separate street) Weavers  on another.. The sellers of silk, gold and jewelry were staying in yet another.. The place where goods for daily use was sold was called ,Koola Veedhi.. Bread sellers, s sellers, fishmongers, betel nut sellers, meat, oil sellers, gold and silverware, toy sellers, toy sellers, carpenters, blacksmiths, tanners, musicians, small business owners Lived in an area. This area was called the Maruvoorpaakam.

பட்டினப் பாக்கம்

Next is Pattinappaakam.; This is the area where the high-ranking mandarins lived. They lived separately from the royal court, the court, the shop street, the merchant’s street,street wher the chariots can run, Brahmin,s Residences called Agrahara, farmers, doctors, astrologers, watchmakers, who sell Bangles. These lived separately in the city.

Guardians, dancers, florists, women, musicians, dancers all lived in one area.

There were soldiers’ quarters around the king’s palace. Elephants, horses, chariots and infantry lived here. This area is known as Pattinapakkam as it is close to the coast. The former was called Ur; It was categorized as starvation. With this the complaint was called Kavirippoompattinam. It was given two different names, Poompukar and Poompattinam.


The central part between the two areas was special. Most of the shops were open during the day; It was called Nalangadi. There was always the noise of sellers and buyers.

At the base of the trees they served as pillars for the shops; The oasis area seems to be that; Here is a prelude to the police giantWere set up. It was called the Sacrifice. On the day of Indra festival, the women of Marakudi worshiped here with flowers and pongals. The soldiers cut off their heads and killed them. Congratulations to the Chola king on his victory.

A story is told of this guarding Bootha being placed there. The Chola king Musukuntan helped Indra; He defeated the asuras. They tried to destroy him by chanting spells that harmed him. Indra sent a guard to protect himself from the monsters. The Demon( Bootha) dispelled the the deceptions of the monster. It remained there and became a watchdog for the city.

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Picture hall

Visitors to the festival were amazed and delighted to see the altar. After this, the picture hall set up by Thirumavalavan was a sight to behold in the city. When he went north and returned victorious, the emperors gave him three items as curtains. One is ‘Korrap Bandar’; The other is the ‘bar’; Another ‘poseவாயில் ‘; The king of Vachira gave the corpse, the king of Magadha gave the bar; Presented by Avanti Venthan. தோரணவாயில். These are not man-made; Devadachan Mayan made; They were said to have been given by Indra to the kings from time to time. History has it that Thirumavalavan cooked all these in one hall. It was called the Art Gallery. Those who came to the Indra festival also saw this.

Great forums

And the forums to be seen in the city were called the Great Forums. These are said to have been given by Indra during the time of various Cholas.

The so-called ‘silver forum’ was where thieves would stack their stolen packages on their heads. If the patient wakes up completely immersed in the pool water, they are cured. The forum with the pool was called the ‘Ilanchimanram’; Bile-poisoned, poisoned, and afflicted, they were relieved of their grief and ascended. The area was called the ‘Long Hall’. The evil one punched and punched them and called it ‘Giant Square’. The king wept over the injustice and the forums gave wrong judgments; It was called the ‘Sin Forum’. These were called giant forums. These, too, became dramatic scenes; Those who came to the festival were amazed to see these.Invitation to the ceremony

Vachirak Kottam is the Indra Temple; Viper takes the trumpet and puts it in the elephant’s trunk. From there the festival message was announced to the town.

Football Festival It’s the opening ceremony, from the Football Festival to the post-show. They took the dim flag and carried it.

Poses hung everywhere in front of the City House. They took the fake sprouts in a full jug. They carried the puppet, the flag, the chandelier, and the chalk, and glorified the rules.

Water Festival

The emperor, the emperor, the prince, and the merchant youth rode in their respective chariots and wished Indra a happy “victory”. The kings of Kurunegala brought Cauvery water in jugs and immersed Indra in yellow water. This bathing was considered the chief ceremony. Hence it was also highlighted as a bathing festival.

He performed traditional rituals and worships at Sivankoil, Murugan, Balarama and Thirumal temples. To God, the Eleven Great MomentsS were taken to the ceremony. They took the ceremony on the charitable roads. The king freed the captive enemy king.

There were concerts. In the breezy streets the lustful men feasted on the eyes, and the men who were enchanted by their form associated with them.

This romantic apocalypse stunned men. They wondered if the sky had come to a halt on Monday. They talked about whether Tamaraimlar had come here in search of the bride. They also feared that the claimant would discriminate against us by melting the woman; They wondered if the sky lightning was coming and rolling on the ground. They snatched themselves away from such beauties and enjoyed the game. It betrayed them to read the truth in the lie they had written on their chests because they had sunk with them.

This lustful lust for sex became the reason for women to leave the relationship. They can’t write the title song to solve the problem; If the guest comes, the solution is sexual. That, too, is not medicine; Delicious life

Madhavi and Kannaki

It was one of the events held at the Indra Festival; What is the status of Madhavi in ​​this situation? செங்கழுWatering is ideal for honeydew. Tears of joy welled up in her eyes as she blushed.

Kannaki her black eyes did not change at all; She burst into tears as she languished in solitude.

Madhavi’s right eye throbbed: Kannaki’s left eye throbbed. The two positions are contradictory; One soaked in joy: the other languished in loneliness. Both expressed joy and sorrow at these different stages.

#I have provide English translation by Google, though I have corrected a few Lines. I shall be editing this wiki page to render correct meaning and share.


Tamizh text is below.

நகர்க் காட்சி

புகார் நகர் காலையில் கவின் மிக்கதாக விளங்கியது; காலை ஒளியில் அதன் மாடங்களும், கோபுரங்களும், கோயில் தலங்களும், மற்றும் உள்ள மன்றங்களும் அழகு பெற்றுத் திகழ்ந்தன.

இந்த நகர் சுருசுருப்பாக இயங்கியது; வணிகர்கள் மிக்கு வாழ்ந்தனர்; அவர்கள் குடியிருப்புப் பெருமை தேடித் தந்தது.

மருவூர்ப் பாக்கம்

மருவூர்ப் பாக்கம் என்பது நகரின் உட்பகுதியாகும். பட்டினப் பாக்கம் என்பது கடற்கரையை அணுகிய பகுதியாகும். தொழில்கள் மிக்க பகுதி மருவூர்ப்பாக்கம்; வாணிபம் செய்வோரும், தொழில் செய்வோரும் வாழ்ந்த பகுதி அது; மற்றையது உயர் குடிமக்கள் வசித்த இடமாகும்.

மாடி வீடுகளும், அழகுமிக்க இருக்கைகளும், மான கண் போன்ற சன்னல்கள் வைத்த மாளிகைகளும், பொய்கைக் கரைகளில் கவர்ச்சிமிக்க யவனரது வீடுகளும், வேற்று நாட்டவர் வசிக்கும் நீர் நிலைகளின் கரைகளில் கட்டி இருந்த வீடுகளும் அந்நகரை வளப்படுத்தின, அழகு தந்தன.

தெருக்கள் தனித்தனியே இன்ன இன்ன தொழிலுக்கு என வகைப்படுத்தி இருந்தனர்; நறுமணப் பொருள் விற்போர் ஒரு தனித்தெருவில் குடி இருந்தனர். நூல் நெய்வோர் தனிவீதியில் இருந்தனர். பட்டும், பொன்னும், அணிகலன்களும் விற்போர் தனிவீதியில் தங்கி இருந்தனர். பண்டங்கள் குவித்து விற்றவர் தெரு கூலவீதி எனப்பட்டது. அப்பம் விற்போர், கள் விற்போர், மீன் விலைபகர்வோர், வெற்றிலை வாசனைப் பொருள்கள் விற்போர், இரைச்சி, எண்ணெய் விற்போர், பொன் வெள்ளி செம்புப் பாத்திரக் கடைகள் வைத்திருப்போர், பொம்மைகள் விற்போர், சித்திரவேலைக்காரர், தச்சர், கம்மாளர், தோல் தொழிலாளர், விளையாட்டுக் கருவிகள் செய்வோர், இசை வல்லவர்கள், சிறு தொழில் செய்பவர்கள் இவர்கள் எல்லாம் ஒரு பகுதியில் வாழ்ந்து வந்தனார். இந்தப் பகுதி மருவூர்ப் பாக்கம் எனப்பட்டது.

பட்டினப் பாக்கம்

அடுத்தது பட்டினப்பாக்கம்; உயர்நிலை மாந்தர் வசித்த பகுதி இது. அரசவிதி, தேர்விதி, கடைத்தெரு, வணிகர் தெரு, அந்தணர் அக்கிரகாரம், உழவர் இல்லம், மருத்துவர், சோதிடர், மணிகோத்து விற்பவர், சங்கு அறுத்து வளையல் செய்வோர் ஆகிய இவர்கள் தனித்தனியே வசித்து வந்தனர்.

காவற்கணிகையர், ஆடற் கூத்தியர், பூவிலை மடந்தையர், ஏவல் பெண்கள், இசைக்கலைஞர்கள், கூத்தாடிகள் இவர்கள் எல்லாம் ஒருபகுதியில் வாழ்ந்தனர்.

அரசன் அரண்மனையைச் சுற்றிப் படை வீரர்கள் குடியிருப்புகள் இருந்தன. யானை, குதிரை, தேர், காலாள் வீரர்கள் இங்குக் குடி இருந்தனர். இப்பகுதி கடற்கரையை ஒட்டி இருந்தமையால் இது பட்டினப்பாக்கம் எனப் பட்டது. முன்னது ஊர் எனப்பட்டது; இது பட்டினம் என்று பாகுபடுத்திக் காட்டப்பட்டது. இதை வைத்துத்தான் புகார் காவிரிப்பூம்பட்டினம் எனப்பட்டது. இதற்குப் பூம்புகார் என்றும், பூம்பட்டினம் என்றும் இருவேறு பெயர்கள் வழங்கப்பட்டன.

பலிக் கொடை

இவ்விரு பகுதிகளுக்கும் இடைப்பட்ட மையப் பகுதியே சிறப்பு மிக்கதாக விளங்கியது. கடைகள் மிக்குள்ள பகுதி, பகலில் செயல்பட்டது; இது நாளங்காடி எனப்பட்டது. இங்கு எப்பொழுதும் விற்பவர் ஓசையும், வாங்குவோர் ஓசையும் ஒலித்துக் கொண்டே இருந்தன.

மரங்களின் அடிப்பகுதியே இவர்கள் கடைகளுக்குத் தூண்களாக விளங்கின; சோலைகள் மிக்க பகுதி அது என்று தெரிகிறது; இங்கே காவல் பூதத்திற்கு ஒரு பீடிகை அமைத்திருந்தனர். அது பலிப் பீடிகை எனப்பட்டது. இந்திர விழா கொண்டாடும் நாளில் இங்குப் பூவும் பொங்கலும் இட்டு மறக்குடி மகளிர் வழிபாடு செய்தனர். வீரர்கள் தங்கள் தலைகளை அறுத்து வைத்துப் பலி இட்டனர். “சோழ அரசன் வெற்றி பெறுக” என்று வாழ்த்துகள் கூறினர்.

இந்தக் காவல் பூதம் அங்கு வைக்கப்பட்டதற்கு ஒரு கதை கூறப்படுகிறது. முசுகுந்தன் என்னும் சோழ அரசன் இந்திரனுக்கு உதவினான்; அசுரர்களை ஓட்டினான்; அவர்கள் இவனுக்குத் தீங்கு கருதி மந்திரங்கள் சொல்லி இவனை அழிக்க முயன்றனர். அந்த அசுரர்களிடமிருந்து காக்க இந்திரன் காவல் பூதத்தை அனுப்பிவைத்தான். அப்பூதம் அசுரர் செய்த வஞ்சங்களை ஒழித்துக் கட்டியது. அங்கேயே அது நிலைத்து அந்நகருக்கு அது காவல் பூதமாக அமைந்து விட்டது.

இந்த விழா சித்திரை மாதம் சித்திரை முழுநிலவு அன்று எடுக்கப்பட்டது. மருவூர்ப்பாக்கம், பட்டினப்பாக்கம் இவ்விரு பகுதிகளினின்றும் வீரர்கள் இங்கு வந்து விழா எடுத்துப் பலியும் தந்து கொண்டனர். இது வியத்தகு காட்சியாக விளங்கியது.

சித்திர மண்டபம்

இந்திரவிழா காண வருவோர் இப்பலிப்பீடத்தைக் கண்டு வியப்பும் மகழ்வும் அடைந்தனர். இதனை அடுத்து அந்நகரில் பார்க்கத் தகுந்த காட்சியாக விளங்கியது திருமாவளவன் அமைத்த சித்திர மண்டபம். அவன் வடநாடு சென்று வெற்றி கொண்டு திரும்பி வருகையில் பேரரசர்கள் அவனுக்குத் திறைப் பொருளாக மூன்று பொருள்களைத் தந்தனர். ஒன்று ‘கொற்றப் பந்தர்’; மற்றொன்று ‘பட்டிமண்டபம்’; மற்றொன்று ‘தோரண வாயில்’; வச்சிர நாட்டு அரசன் தந்தது கொற்றப்பந்தர், மகத நாட்டு அரசன் தந்தது பட்டிமண்டபம்; அவந்தி வேந்தன் அளித்தது. தோரணவாயில். இவை மானுடரால் செய்யப்பட்டவை அல்ல; தேவதச்சன் மயன் செய்து தந்தவை; இந்திரன் அவ் அரசர்களுக்கு அவ்வப் பொழுது தந்தவை அவை எனப்பட்டன. இவற்றை ஒருங்கு வைத்து ஒரே மண்டபமாகத் திருமாவளவன் சமைத்தான் என்பது வரலாறு. இது சித்திர மண்டபம் எனப்பட்டது. இந்திர விழாவுக்கு வருபவர் இதனையும் கண்டுமகிழ்ந்தனர்.

ஐம்பெரு மன்றங்கள்

மற்றும் அந்நகரில் காணத் தகுந்தவை ஐம்பெரும் மன்றங்கள் எனப்பட்டன. இவை பல்வேறு சோழர்கள் காலத்தில் இந்திரனால் அளிக்கப்பட்டவை என்று கூறப்படுகிறது.

களவு செய்வோரை அவர்கள் தலையில் களவாடிய பொதிகளை அடுக்கிவைத்துச் சுற்றிவரச் செய்வது ‘வெள்ளிடை மன்றம்’ எனப்பட்டது. நோய் நொடியால் வாடுவோர் குளத்து நீரில் முழுகி எழுந்தால் அவர்கள் நோய் தீர்ந்தனர். அந்தக் குளம் உடைய மன்றம் ‘இலஞ்சிமன்றம்’ எனப்பட்டது; பித்தம் பிடித்தவர், நஞ்சு உண்டவர், அரவு தீண்டப் பெற்றவர் இவர்கள் துயர் நீங்கி உயர்வு பெற்றனர். அந்தப் பகுதிக்கு ‘நெடுங்கல்நின்ற மண்டபம்’ என்று கூறப்பட்டது. தீய ஒழுக்கத்தவர் அவர்களைப் புடைத்து உண்டு தண்டித்தது ‘பூத சதுக்கம்’ எனப்பட்டது. அரசன் நீதி தவறினாலும், மன்றங்கள் தவறான தீர்ப்புகள் வழங்கினாலும் கண்ணீர் உகுத்து அழுது காட்டி அநீதியை எடுத்து உரைத்தது; அது ‘பாவை மன்றம்’ எனப்பட்டது. இவை ஐம்பெரு மன்றங்கள் எனப்பட்டன. இவையும் வியத்தகு காட்சிகள் ஆயின; இவ்விழாவுக்கு வந்தவர் இவற்றைக் கண்டு வியந்தனர். விழா அழைப்பு

வச்சிரக் கோட்டம் என்பது இந்திரன் கோயில்; அதில் இருந்த முரசத்தை எடுத்து யானையின் பிடரியில் ஏற்றி வைப்பர். அதன் மீது இருந்து விழாச் செய்தியை ஊருக்கு அறிவித்தனர்.

கால்கோள் விழா இது தொடக்க விழா, கால்கோள் விழா முதல் கடைநிலை நிகழ்ச்சி வரை நடைபெற உள்ள நிகழ்ச்சிகள் பற்றி நவின்றனர். மங்கல நெடுங்கொடி எடுத்து ஏற்றினர்.

நகரத்து மாளிகை முன் எங்கும் தோரணங்கள் தொங்கவிட்டனர். பூரண குடத்தில் பொலிந்த முளைப்பாலிகையை எடுத்துச் சென்றனர். பாவை விளக்கும், கொடிச் சீலையும், வெண்சாமரமும், சுண்ணமும் ஏந்தி விதிகளில் பொலிவு ஊட்டினர்.

நீராட்டு விழா

ஐம்பெரும் குழுவினரும், எண்பேராயத்தினரும், அரச குமரரும், வணிக இளைஞரும் தத்தமக்கு உரிய தேர்களில் ஏறிச் சென்று, “அரசன் வெற்றி கொள்வானாக” என்று, வாழ்த்துக் கூறி இந்திரனுக்கு நீராட்டு விழா நடத்தினர். குறுநில மன்னர்கள், குடங்களில் காவிரிநீர் கொண்டுவந்து இந்திரனுக்கு மஞ்சனம் ஆட்டி நீர் முழுக்குச் செய்வித்தனர். இந்த நீராட்டுதலே தலைமை விழாவாகக் கருதப்பட்டது. அதனால் இது நீராட்டு விழா எனவும் சிறப்பித்துக் கூறப்பட்டது.

ஊர்த்திருவிழாக்கள் மற்றும் சிவன்கோவில், முருகன், பலராமன், திருமால் இக்கோவில்களில் அவரவர் மரபுப்படி பூசைகள் நடத்தினர். தேவர்க்கும், பதினெண் பூத கணங் களுக்கும் விழா எடுக்கப்பட்டன. அறச் சாலைகளில் அவர்கள் விழா எடுத்தனர். சிறைப்பட்ட பகை மன்னரை அரசன் விடுவித்தான்.

அங்கங்கே இசை நிகழ்ச்சிகள் நடை பெற்றன. தென்றல் வீசும் தெருக்களில் காமக் கணிகையர் கண்களுக்கு விருந்து அளித்தனர், அவர்கள் வடிவழகில் மயங்கி ஆடவர்கள் அவர்களோடு உறவு கொண்டனர்.

இந்தக் காதற்பரத்தையர் பேரழகு ஆடவர்களைத் திகைக்க வைத்தது. வானத்துத் திங்கள் வையகத்துக்கு வந்ததோ என்று வியந்தனர். திருமகளைத் தேடித் தாமரைம்லர் இங்கு வந்து புகுந்ததோ என்று பேசினர். கூற்றுவன் பெண் உருக் கொண்டு எம்மைப் பேதமைப் படுத்துகிறானோ என்றும் அஞ்சினர்; வானத்து மின்னல் மண்ணில் வந்து புரள்கிறதோ என்று வியந்து பேசினர். இத்தகைய அழகு உடையவர்கள்பால் தம்மைப் பறிகொடுத்துக் களி மகிழ்வு எய்தினர். அவர்களோடு தோய்ந்ததால் அவர்கள் மார்பில் எழுதியிருந்த தொய்யில் இவர்கள் மெய்யில் படிய அது இவர்களைக் காட்டிக் கொடுத்தது.

ஊடல் கொள்வதற்கு இந்தக் காமக் கணிகையர்தம் உறவு விட்டு மகளிர்க்குக் காரணம் ஆகியது. ஊடலைத் தீர்ப்பதற்கு அவர்கள் பட்ட பாடு ஏட்டில் எழுத முடியாது; விருந்தினர் வந்தால் ஊடல் தீர்வர். அதுவும் மருந்தாக அமையவில்லை; சுவைமிக்க வாழ்க்கை

மாதவியும் கண்ணகியும்

இது இந்திர விழாவில் நடைபெற்ற நிகழ்ச்சிகளுள் ஒன்று; இந்நிலையில் மாதவியின் நிலை யாது? செங்கழு நீர்ப்பு தேன்சிந்தி உகுகிறது. அது போல் இவள் சிவந்த கண்கள் உவந்த காரணத்தால் மகிழ்வக் கண்ணீர் சொரிந்தன.

கண்ணகி அவள் கருங்கண்கள் எந்த மாற்றமும் அடையவில்லை; தனிமையில் உழந்து தளர்ந்த நிலையில் அவள் கண்ணீர் உகுத்தாள்.

மாதவியின் வலக்கண் துடித்தது: கண்ணகியின் இடக்கண் துடித்தது. இருவர் நிலைகள் முரண்பாடு கொண்டவை; ஒருத்தி மகிழ்ச்சியில் திளைத்தாள்: மற்றொருத்தி தனிமையில் தவித்தாள். இந்த மாறுபட்ட நிலைகளில்.இருவரும் மகிழ்வும் துயரமும் காட்டினர்.


Tamil Sangam Literature On Ramayana Dhanushkodi

Tamil ,one of the ancient Languages of India speaks about Ramayana. Sanskrit texts too refer to Tamil, Tamils and Tamil Kings. As a matter of interest Rig Veda too talks about Tamil Kingdoms. One of the earliest references to Ramayana is found in Tamil Sangam Literature.Sangam date has hiterto been set as around 3000 Years ago. However, the date of Ramayana is now fixed at 5114 BC and Poompuhar, the Port city of Cholas has now been dated around 12,000 years back! Sangam literature talks of Ramayana and I am producing evidence below, with my translation in English.

கடுந்தெறல் இராமன் உடன் புணர் சீதையை

வலித்த கை அரக்கன் வௌவிய ஞான்றை

நிலஞ்சேர் மதர் அணி கண்ட குரங்கின்

செம்முகப் பெருங்கிளை இழை பொலிந்து ஆங்கு’ [1] Puranaanuru 378புறநானூறு 378


இராமனுடன் காட்டுக்கு வந்திருந்த சீதையை இராவணன் வௌவிச் சென்றான். அவள் இராமனுக்கு வழி தெரியத் தான் அணிந்திருந்த அணிகலன்களை ஒவ்வொன்றாக ஆங்காங்கே நிலத்தில் போட்டுவிட்டுச் சென்றாள். அவள் அணிந்திருந்ததைப் பார்த்த செங்குரங்குகள் (முசு) அவற்றை எடுத்து எதனை எங்கு அணிவது என்று தெரியாமல் தாறுமாறாக அணிந்துகொண்டது போல் இருந்ததாம். (Sita was abducted when Rama lived in the forest. When abducted, Sita threw away her Jewels as a Marker for those who would tray to trace her. The Monkeys(who later would search and Find Sita), picked up the jewel and wore them , without knowing which Jewel to wear where)

‘ வென்வேல் கவுரியர் தொன்முது கோடி

முழங்கு இரும் பௌவம் இரங்கும் முன் துறை

வெல்போர் இராமன் அருமறைக்கு அவித்த

பல்வீழ் ஆலம் போல

ஒலி அவிந்தன்று இவ் அழுங்கல் ஊரே’ [2]– Aha Naanuru 70 அகநானூறு 70

தலைவன் திருமணம் செய்துகொள்ள வந்துவிட்டான். அவனையும் உன்னையும் இணைத்து அலர் தூற்றிய ஊரார் வாய் அடங்கிவிட்டது – என்று தோழி தலைவியிடம் சொல்கிறாள். இது செய்தி. ஊர் வாய் அடங்கியதற்குக் காட்டப்படும் உவமைதான் இராமனைப் பற்றிய செய்தி.

கோடி = தனுஷ்கோடி

கவுரியர் = பாண்டியர்

இராமன் தன் வெற்றிக்குப் பின் பாண்டியரின் ஆட்சிக்கு உட்பட்டிருந்த தனுஷ்கோடி வந்தடைந்தான். முழங்கிக்கொண்டிருக்கும் கடல் இரக்கத்தோடு காணப்பட்டது. அங்கு ஆறு கடலோடு கலக்கும் முன்றுறை (முன் துறை) ஓரத்தில் ஓர் ஆலமரம் இருந்தது. அந்த மரத்தடியில் அமர்ந்துகொண்டு இராமன் தன் மறைகளை ஓதிக்கொண்டிருந்தான். அப்போது பல விழுதுகளை உடைய அந்த ஆலமரம் தன் ஒலியை அவித்து வைத்துக்கொண்டது. அதாவது ஆலமரத்துப் பறவைகள் ஒலிப்பதை மறந்து கேட்டுக்கொண்டிருந்தன. (ஆல மரத்தடியில் குழுமியிருந்த மற்ற உயிரினங்களும் ஒலி எழுப்பாமல் வாய்மூடிக்கொண்டன.( This poem is in the form of a message to a Girl who is in Love. Her friend tells her thus.” Rama has come to Dhanushkodi, which Falls under the Kingdom Of Pandyas.He is sitting under the Banyan Tree, reciting Vedas.To liten to Rama’s chanting of Vedas, the birds in the Banyan Tree stopped their chirping .Similarly, those who spoke ill of you while you were in Love, had shut their mouth as your Lover has come to Marry You)

‘இலங்கை அரசன் இராவணனின் தம்பி வீடணன். இவன் இராமனை நண்பனாகப் பெற்று இலங்கை அரசனானான் என்று அந்தப் பாடல் குறிப்பிடுகிறது.

பொலந் தார் இராமன் துணையாகப் போதந்து,

இலங்கைக் கிழவற்கு இளையான், இலங்கைக்கே

பேர்ந்து இறை ஆயதூஉம் பெற்றான்;-பெரியாரைச்

சார்ந்து கெழீஇயிலார் இல்-Pazhamozhi, 92, பழமொழி 92 (Pathinenkeezhkanakku) ( Ravana’s Brother Vibhishana came, sought and became a friend of Rama and became the King Of Lanka)


Sanatana Dharma Tamil Culture From Russia to Micronesia Yamanya Culture

I have been writing on Sanatana Dharma,Hinduism and Tamil and their presence throughout the world in ancient times.During this journey I have been able to find evidences of these in almost all parts of the world, from Australia to Americas through the Far East, East, Middle east, West and Caribbean, not to forget Africa.I have found traces of practices,customs,religious thoughts and also straight presence of Vedic Sanatan Dharma,Tamils.Based on the researched information, i have been able to propose that the the ancient world had Sanatan Dharma/Tamil presence. Based on evidence found in Sanskrit Puranas, Ithihasas, Tamil Classics, and cross referencing them with archeological finds of the lands I had referred to and with the legends and practices of the peoples there,the existence of Aryavartha( what is present in the North of Vindhyas now) and the South of Vindhyas(called Dravida)

The timeline of both is mind boggling. While Aryavartha is traced to about 7000 ago( based on the rough estimate of Rig Veda date of around 5000 years ago),that of Tamil is traced to about 20,000 years ago( based on the archeological date of the sunken city of Poompuhar, Tamil Nadu,India).Even this does not seem to be correct. A site of advanced Tamil Civilization near Chennai,Tamil Nadu, India is dated around a Million years. This advanced civilization quotes Vedas, Sanskrit! Nataraja ,Jwalapuram ,Cuddappah,Andhra Pradesh( or is is Telengana now?) is dated areound 74,000 years based on Mount Toba Ash dispersal.So, it is eveident that these two civilizations, cultures are quite ancient.Another interesting point is tthat most academicians and people take Himalayas to be most ancien,whilw writing History.But the Deccan Plateau and the western and eastern Ghats of India are among the most ancient in the world, if not the most ancient.Hi,malayas can be dated to somewhere around 40 Lakhs years ago, the western Ghats and Eastern Ghats of India are dated to 21000 Million years ago, as eveidenced in the Formation of Sila Thorana of Tirumala Hills,India.Not to be outdone,Thiruvannamalai in Tamil Nadu is dated around 2.94 Billion years !

So this leads us to an interesting question. Which is Older?The Aryavarta or the Dravidia? I gave up after tracing their antiquity to a Million years .Fact is both are ancient..I am unable to assert with evidence which is earlier.As I research, I write. As on date, available evidence points to Dravida being the earlier one , considering that the First Human Being Manu is from Dravida Desa( This is not the only evidence. Kindly read my other articles )

The presence of Siva concept much before the Vedic period,details of Siva concept in Tamil being more elaborate,aborigines of Australia performing Trinetra Dance of Siva, the physical resemblance of ancient Australian people, the evidence of Naan Madol in northeast of Australia, presence of Tamils in Micronesia and more evidence point out that the Tamils lived in those areas in ancient times,

The name Nan Madol means “spaces between” and is a reference to the canals that crisscross the ruins. The original name was Soun Nan-leng (Reef of Heaven), according to Gene Ashby in his book Pohnpei, An Island Argosy. It is often called the “Venice of the Pacific”.

Today Nan Madol forms an archaeological district covering more than 18 km² and includes the stone architecture built up on a coral reef flat along the shore of Temwen Island, several other artificial islets, and the adjacent Pohnpei main island coastline. The site core with its stone walls encloses an area approximately 1.5 km long by 0.5 km wide containing nearly 100 artificial islets—stone and coral fill platforms—bordered by tidal canals.


Now, consider the following.

  • The ancestral components are found in South Asia and Neolithic West Asian Farmers of Iran.

The origins of the Dravidians are a “very complex subject of research and debate”. They may have been indigenous to the Indian subcontinent, but origins in, or influence from, West-Asia have also been proposed. Their origins are often viewed as being connected with the Indus Valley Civilisation, hence people and language spread east- and southwards after the demise of the Indus Valley Civilisation in the early second millennium BCE, some propose not long before the arrival of Indo-Aryan speakers,with whom they intensively interacted. The Dravidian peoples are of a mixed genetic origin and formed initially due to the mixture of indigenous South Asian Hunter Gatherers and Neolithic West Asian farmers from Iran, with all[/almost all Dravidian groups later additionally acquiring admixture from Steppe Yamnaya pastoralists.[From these interactions and migrations arose eventually the so-called “Hindus synthesis”, after 500 BCE.

The third century BCE onwards saw the development of large kingdoms in South India. Medieval South Indian guilds and trading organisations like the “Ayyavole of Karnataka and Manigramam” played an important role in the Southeast Asia trade, and the cultural Indianisation of the region.

Dravidian visual art is dominated by stylised temple architecture in major centres, and the production of images on stone and bronze sculptures. The sculpture dating from the Chola period has become notable as a symbol of Hinduism.


The Yamnaya culture, also known as the Yamnaya Horizon,[ Yamna culturePit Grave culture or Ochre Grave culture, was a late Copper Age to early Bronze Age archaeological culture of the region between the Southern Bug, Dniester, and Ural rivers (the Pontic steppe), dating to 3300–2600 BC.[3] Its name derives from its characteristic burial tradition: Ямная (romanization: yamnaya) is a Russian adjective that means ‘related to pits (yama)’, and these people used to bury their dead in tumuli (kurgans) containing simple pit chambers. “Yamna” is the name that is derived from the same word in Ukrainian (ямна, romanization: yamna).

The people of the Yamnaya culture were likely the result of a genetic admixture between the descendants of Eastern European Hunter-Gatherers and people related to hunter-gatherers from the Caucasus. People with this ancestral component are known as Western Steppe Herders. Their material culture was very similar to the Afanasevo culture, and the populations of both cultures are genetically indistinguishable.[1] They lived primarily as nomads, with a chiefdom system and wheeled carts that allowed them to manage large herds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamnaya_culture

The practice of Burying people in a large Jar is the ancient custom Of Tamils,Mudu Makkal Thaazhi).

  • Tamil King Sibi Had his capital near Swat Valley.
  • Murugan, Peacock Tribe is found in Turkey (Murugan is worshipped as God in Tamil)
  • Land of Tamils was located in the north eastern portion of what is now Australia.
  • Presence of Vikramadiya in Middle east.
  • Krishna’s Palace in Port Barzhyn, Russia.
  • Narada Mountains,Narodnaya in Urals.
  • Arkaim in Russia is modelled after Rig Vedic Mandala design.
<p class="has-drop-cap" value="<amp-fit-text layout="fixed-height" min-font-size="6" max-font-size="72" height="80">Considering these points , it may be proposed that the Vedic Culture and Tamil Civilization extended from Russia, through the middle east, South Asia to Australia to Micronesia.Considering these points , it may be proposed that the Vedic Culture and Tamil Civilization extended from Russia, through the middle east, South Asia to Australia to Micronesia.

Manu Dynasties Saptha Rishi Star Visitations Study Part I

Manu’ s Sons and Their Kingdoms.

Manu was the first Man . He was from the South of Vindhyas. When a Tsunami struck, he moved to Ayodhya . His son Ikshvaku founded the Suryavansh,Solar Dynasty.Manu had ,apart from Ikshvaku ,one Daughter Ila and Nine brothers.Ila married Chandra’s son Budha and their Dynasty was called Chandravansh,after Pururavas.This Dynasty is also called as Aila Dynasty and Ailas seemed to have lived in the western region of the Present Indian landmass,probably around Arabia.Please read my articles on this. Manu’s other sons, for various reasons did not seem to be as enterprising as Manu’s son Ikshvaku in establishing a Dynasty.

It is recorded that Ila ,along with Budha founded the Lunar Dynasty, Chandravansh;from One of the sons of Manu, Agnivesa,Brahmin Dynasty came into being; From Trinabindu, descendant of Nabhaga,son of Manu,came Ilavida and she gave birth to Kubera, who ruled what is now Lanka. Kubera is recorded to be the elder brother of Ravana.Ravana was the son of Vishrava, Brother of Sage Pulasthya, Brother Agastya.Agastya was the son of Brahma..* Here comes a point. Though Manu is reported to have sprung from Vivaswan,Surya,Sun, and recorded as first Human, Offspring of Saptha Rishis are shown as progenitors of Human race.For example Daksha.Saptha Rishis change for each Manvantara.For the present Vaiwasvatha Manvantara,the Saptha, Seven Rishis are, Atri, Bhrigu,Kuthsa, Vasishta,Gautama,Kasyapa and Angirasa.( There are variations to these names).The possibilities are a) Some Rishis like Angirasa,Bharatwaja founded some Kingdoms which are not under the landmass of present India; b) the beings like Ramba,Kubera, are beings of a different plane like the Adithyas,Rudras and Devas who are the children of Sage Kasyapa.So, this opens the possibility of a) Visitation by beings from outer space or b) existence of such beings in a different plane and c ) they visit us.Though it sounds preposterous, facts mentioned in Purana,which I had checked till now,stand the test of scrutiny.So, it is logical to search further to unravel the seemingly impossible.

One may note that Ila Dynasty progressed in what is now the South and Far East, in ancient days and we can find Hinduism remains and practices there even today,including Angkorvat temple complex,Siva trinetra dance in Australia,presence of Kasyapa in New Zealand.Except those belonging to Ikshvaku and Chandravansh,other dynasties do not seem to have survived, though the other dynasties like Yadu sprang from them.Notable exception is the The Three Great Kings’ Dynasties of Tamils,Chera,Chola and Pandya. Yet these three trace their origin to Ikshvaku and Lunar Dynasty.Lunar Dynasty was mostly ,as far as Tamils are concerned, through Ila ,thrived in South,Lanka and around that area,which included? Tamilakam. So, this gives rise to Lemuria, Kumarikandam , Atlantis and MU civilisations.

More to follow.

Northern North  Central Kingdoms

  • Kuru
  • Panchala
  • Vatsa ||

Kingdoms of North-Central India

  • Kosala
  • Kasi
  • Videha
  • Dakshina Kosala
  • Malla

Kingdoms of Western and West-Central India

  • Surasena
  • Dwaraka
  • Anarta
  • Saurashtra
  • Heheya
  • Nishada
  • Gurjara
  • Karusha
  • Chedi
  • Dasrana
  • Kunti
  • Avanti
  • Malava

North-Northwestern (Fishermen’s) kingdoms

  • Matsya

Western kingdoms

  • Trigartha
  • Salwa
  • Madra
  • Sindhu
  • Sauvira
  • Sivi
  • Kekeya
  • Gandhara
  • Youdheya
  • Pahlava

Northwestern kingdoms

  • Bhalika
  • Parma Khamboja
  • Uttara Madra
  • Uttara Kuru
  • Yavana
  • Lhasa
  • Saka

Northern kingdoms

  • Kasmira
  • Kamboja
  • Drada
  • Parada
  • Parasika
  • Tushara
  • Huna
  • Harahuna
  • Rishika
  • China
  • Paramus China

Eastern kingdoms

  • Magada
  • Kikata
  • Anga
  • Pragjyotisha
  • Sonita
  • Lauhitya
  • Pundra
  • Sushma
  • Vanga
  • Odra
  • Utkala

Kingdoms South of the Vindhya Range

  • Vidarba
  • Anupa
  • Suparaka
  • Nasikya
  • Konkana
  • Asmaka
  • Danda
  • Kalinga

Kingdoms in the extreme South

  • Telinga
  • Andhra
  • Kishkinds
  • Gomanta
  • Karnata
  • Kanchi
  • Chola
  • Pandya
  • Chera
  • Mushika
  • Satyaputra
  • Tulu
  • Sinhala

Saraswati Valley kingdoms

  • Saraswatha
  • Abhira
  • Sudra
  • Nishada

Reference and citation.


Following is the detail of what had happened to Ikshvaku’s brothers (Manu’s sons)

This Second Chapter describes the dynasties of the sons of Manu, headed by Karūṣa.After Sudyumna accepted the order of vānaprastha and departed for the forest, VaivasvataManu, being desirous of sons, worshiped the Supreme Personality of Godhead and consequently begot ten sons like MahārājaIkṣvāku, all of whom were like their father. One of these sons, Pṛṣadhra, was engaged in the duty of protecting cows at night with a sword in his hand. Following the order of his spiritual master, he would stand in this way for the entire night. Once, in the darkness of night, a tiger seized a cow from the cowshed, and when Pṛṣadhra came to know this, he took a sword in his hand and followed the tiger. Unfortunately, when he finally approached the tiger, he could not distinguish between the cow and the tiger in the dark, and thus he killed the cow. Because of this, his spiritual master cursed him to take birth in a śūdra family, but Pṛṣadhra practiced mystic yoga, and in bhaktiyoga he worshiped the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Then he voluntarily entered a blazing forest fire, thus relinquishing his material body and going back home, back to Godhead.Kavi, the youngest son of Manu, was a great devotee of the Supreme Personality of Godhead from his very childhood. From Manu’s son known as Karūṣa, a sect of kṣatriyas known as Kārūṣas was generated. Manu also had a son known as Dhṛṣṭa, from whom another sect of kṣatriyas was generated, but although they were born of one who had the qualities of a kṣatriya, they became brāhmaṇas. From Nṛga, another son of Manu, came the sons and grandsons known as Sumati, Bhūtajyoti and Vasu. From Vasu, in succession, came Pratīka, and from him came Oghavān. Descending in order from the seminal dynasty of Nariṣyanta, another son of Manu, were Citrasena, Ṛkṣa, MīḍhvānPūrṇaIndrasenaVītihotra, Satyaśravā, Uruśravā, Devadatta and Agniveśya. From the kṣatriya known as Agniveśya came the celebrated brāhmaṇa dynasty known as Āgniveśyāyana. From the seminal dynasty of Diṣṭa, another son of Manu, came Nābhāga, and from him in succession came Bhalandana, Vatsaprīti, Prāṁśu, Pramati, Khanitra, Cākṣuṣa, Viviṁśati, Rambha, Khanīnetra, Karandhama, Avīkṣit, Marutta, Dama, Rājyavardhana, Sudhṛti, NaraKevalaDhundhumānVegavānBudha and Tṛṇabindu. In this way, many sons and grandsons were born in this dynasty. From Tṛṇabindu came a daughter named Ilavilā, from whom Kuvera took birth. Tṛṇabindu also had three sons, named Viśāla, Śūnyabandhu and Dhūmraketu. The son of Viśāla was Hemacandra, his son was Dhūmrākṣa, and his son was Saṁyama. The sons of Saṁyama were Devaja and Kṛśāśva. Kṛśāśva’s son, Somadatta, performed an Aśvamedha sacrifice, and by worshiping the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Viṣṇu, he achieved the supreme perfection of going back home, back to Godhead.



Chozha Manu Dynasty List Tamil Confirms Purana Ikshvaku Genealogy

During my research into the History of India, cross referencing Sanskrit Textural information with Tamil, an ancient language of India, I have found corroboration of the facts/ information mentioned in Sanskrit Texts, Puranas and Ithihasas in Tamil literature. This, despite the misinformation that Tamil is inimical to Sanatana Dharma ,Vedic Way of Living.

I have written a number of articles disproving the Aryan Theory; the Tamils and Vedic people lived alongside amicably; they intermarried;Vedic practices were followed by Tamils: Tamil concepts were integrated into Vedic Sutras,like Apasthamba sutra on Mangalya Dharana.I had also written that the Chozhas, one of the three Ancient dynasties of Tamils,descended from Manu,were a part of Ikshvaku Dynasty.This has been declared by Chozhas in their Epigraphs in Kanyakumari,among others, and numerous Copperplates evidence, including one at Thiruvaalangadu.I am posting the Dynasty of Manu from Bhagavatham below.

Manu Dynasty (Ikshvaku)- Srimad Bhagavatham

  • Brahma
  • Marichi, one of the 10 Prajapatis created by Brahma.
  • Kashyapa, son of Marichi and Kala Bo. Kashyapa is regarded as the father of humanity.
  • Vivasvat or Surya, son of Kashyapa and Aditi.
  • Shraddhadeva Manu, originally Satyavrata, son of Vivasvan and Saranyu (Saṃjñā) https://religion.wikia.org/wiki/Shraddhadeva_Manu

Manu Dynasty-Vikrama Chozha Ula, In Tamil

Manu Dynasty by Vikrama Chola Ula(Moovar Ula)
  • பிரமன், உலகம் படைத்தவன்
  • (Brahma,The Creator)
  • காசிபன், பிரமன் மகன் (Kasyapa’ Son of Brahma)
  • மரீசி, மேதக்க மையறு காட்சியன்( Marichi, one who can discern Truth, Unbiased(Father of Kasyapa’)
  • சூரியன், எல்லாளன்,(Surya,Sun,who runs around in a Chariot with one Wheel) ஒற்றைச் சக்கரத் தேரில் வருவோன்
  • மனுச்சோழன், ( Manu, the Chozha,the one who dispensed Justice to a Cow)பசுவுக்கு நீதி வழங்கியவன் 
  • ஆடுதுறை அறனாளன், புலியும் மானும் ஒரே துறையில் நீருண்ணச் செய்தவன் 
  • * I shall explain the names below in forthcoming articles.
  • வானூர்தி அரசன்
  • தேவருலகைக் காத்தவன்
  • வேள்வியில் பெற்ற மந்திரத்தைக் கூற்றுவனுக்குச் சொல்லிக்கொடுத்தவன்,
  • முதுமக்கள்-தாழி செய்தளித்து எமனை வென்றவன்
  • தூங்கும் எயில் எறிந்த சோழன்
  • மேலைக்கடல் நீரைக் கீழைக்கடலில் பாயச்செய்தவன்
  • நாக-கன்னியை மணந்தவன், குகை வழியே நாகலோகம் சென்றவன்
  • சிபிச் சக்கரவர்த்தி, தான் வளர்த்த புறாவுக்காகத் தன்னையே தராசில் நிறுத்துப் பருந்துக்கு இரையாக அளித்தவன்


One may note that,

  • Chozha genealogy tallies with Matsya Purana,Vishnu Purana.
  • The Order of Kings is not followed in Tamil.
  • Marici is the father of Kasyapa.Tamil says it is the other way around,which is incorrect.
  • However, Names of other Kings tally.
  • Surya,Sun is mentioned in Tamil as well as the First of the Dynasty, Kasyapa and Marici being Rishis.
  • Tamil conveys the purport of Sisumara Chakra aspect of Surya, by calling Sun as ‘ one who drives a chariot with one Wheel.
  • Tamil also calls Sun as one who rules lands within all Boundaries, implying that Sun covers the whole land.
  • Marici is known for his truthfulness. Tamil also records this by calling him as ‘Mythakka Mayaru Kaatchiyon.
  • Manu is correctly called as the son of Surya,Sun.
  • Tamil adds one information that Manu dispensed Justice to a Cow. Though this information is available in Sanskrit Texts, it does not specify Manu.Shall check.

Other names in classical Tamil indicate the names of Kings as found in Sanskrit Texts. It needs deciphering.I shall post in forthcoming articles.

The Manu Dynasty list mentioned here is from Tamil literature Moovar Ula,Parade of Three Great Kings.It was written by poet Ottakoothar,in praise of Vikrama Chola,His son Kulothunga Chola II and his son, Rajaraja Chola II . There are 342, 387, 391 poems respectively about each King. Each poem is in two lines.

Citation and reference.



Why Special Honour To Indra Among Ancient Tamil Kings

When one cross checks the Dynasties of India as explained in ancient Indian texts,, One is rewarded with a lot Information, that would clear the cobwebs surrounding Indian History.Contraray to what is being touted the relationship between the so called Dravididas and those from the Aryavartha was quite intimate and the Three Great Dynaties of Tamils, Chera, Chozha and Pandya descended from Ikshvaaku/Chandravamsa.I had written in detail about this in a c couple of articles, where I had proved, with evidence that the Chozhas descended from Ikshavaaku /Lunar Dynasty.

Tamils, who belong to Dravidian group, have one of the most ancient Languages of the world. Along with Sanskrit.The basis of Tamil literature is Tholkaapiyam,Grammar Book of Tamils.Tholkaapiyam is dated 3000 years traditionally.My eleven years of research shows that it is atleast 20,000 years old.Tholkaapiyam divides Tamil landmass into five entities.

  1. Kuriinji, Mountainous Region.
  2. Marutham,Arable Land.
  3. Mullai,Pastoral Land
  4. Neydhal, Seashore and
  5. Paalai, Desert Region

Each of these region is assigned a God.Kurinji,Murugan,Subrahmanya;Marutham,Indra;Mullai,Vishnu;Neydhal, Varuna and Paalai, Durga, Kotravai.

It is interesting to note that all the Gods mentioned in the Vedas are found in the above classification.Of special interest is Indra nd Varuna. These two devas are not given as much pride of place in Vedas in the sense that they are accorded the status of Regining deities for a specific Land.Varuna, in the Vedic Tradition is the God of water, while Indra is the chief of all devatas and God of Thunder.

.In the Tamil tradition ,Indra is elevated to the position of the God of Marutham landmass, Arabale land.It is a fact arable land needs copious water and Indra is the God of Thunder and Varuna God of Water.And Varuna obeys Indra..Tamils celebrated the Festival for Indra called Indra Vizha and this is one of the most Important festival of Tamils.This is to celebrate Indra, The Rain God and alomg with him,Krisahna was also celebrated as Krishna provided shelater to Govardhan people when Indra hit the land with Deluge when the Govardhan people did not perform Pooja for him.Krishna protected the people.This event was also celebrated in Tamil tradition.The details are found in earlies Tamil works of Sangam Age, inclding th Silappadikaaram One of the Five Epics of Tamils.This belongs to Tamil Sangam Era..Failure to Celebrate the Indra Vizha, Indra Festival, Tamil Literature recors,resulted in the Tamil Land being inundated by A Tsunami.Silappadikaaram mentions, so deos Manimekalai, another Epic of Tamils, mentions the Second Tamil Sangam was destroyed due to The Deluge.Tamils had three Sangams, Poets’ Conclave.Firt was at Then Madurai, the second at Kapaatapuram(Kavatam) and the third one at Madurai.Kapaatapuram was destroyed by a Tsunami.

There is also a view that Poompuhar,Kaverippommpattinam,the harbour of Chozhas was submerged because of failure to celebrate Indira festival.

Marudam region (area of the plains) Tamil agriculturists used to worship Indra as their Lord. Indra was considered as the god of the rains and since the farmers were dependent on rains for their crops, they used to worship Indra for rain, thunder and lightening.

There were many festivals celebrated in ancient India and references of them can be found in the ancient works like Vishnudhetrmottara Purana, and the Bhagavata Purana. This practice was prevalent in Tamil Nadu also. One such festival is known as `Indra Vizha`. The Chola kings whose port-city was Kaveripum-pattinam used to take the responsibility of this festival.

The detailed information on the celebration of `Indra Vizha` festival can be seen in the Tamil epics, the `Silappadikaram` and the `Manimekhalai`. As per the Manimekhalai, the famous sage Agastya helped the people of Kaveripumpattinam during a period of drought. He advised the Chola king Todittol Sembian to celebrate a festival for Indra to please him and then only Indra would bring rain to this city. According to the advice, the king arranged a big festival for the Lord Indra. In return, they got rain in the city and experienced the benefits of this, his successors also continued to celebrate this festival every year. This `Indra Vizha` festival generally continues for a period of twenty-eight days.

The festival usually commenced with a group beating drums and announcing to the people the start of the celebrations. The citizens of the town then cleaned the streets and roads and redecorate the city, with each house being adorned with many decorations. The officials of the kingdom would pay their respects to the king and wish him and the kingdom well. Musical performances would be held and the fire oblations offered in many temples for Siva, Vishnu and other deities. The festival ended with people bathing in the sea with the members of the family. It was generally believed that this festival was actually a prayer to Indra, and would remove the difficulties and dangers to those who celebrate it.’

‘The Sangam literature also records legends about mythical Chola kings.These myths speak of the Chola king Kantaman, a supposed contemporary of the sage Agastya, whose devotion brought the river Kaveri into existence. Two names are prominent among those Chola kings known to have existed who feature in Sangam literature: Karikala Chola and Kocengannan. There are no sure means of settling the order of succession, of fixing their relations with one another and with many other princelings of around the same period.Urayur (now a part of Thiruchirapalli) was their oldest capital. Kaveripattinam also served as an early Chola capital. The Mahavamsa mentions that an ethnic Tamil adventurer, a Chola prince known as Elara, invaded the islandaround 235 BCE.

Citations and references.





Why this status for Indra?

I had stated that Chozhas trace their ancestry to Ikshvaaku Dynasty in the Copperplates evidence of Rajendra Chola at Thiruvaalangadu and Epigraphs in Kanyakumari.This refernece is found in almost all epigraphs and copperplates of Chozhas.Chozha Emperor Sibi was the (son of Usinara) Graet Great Grand son of Yayati, who founded the Chandra Vamsda ,Lunar Dynasty.Lunar Dynasty sprang upg up from Ikshavaaku,Solar Dynasty.Please refer my articles on these.

Mandhata ,aka Mandatri was an Ikshvakku ancestor of Rama.

Ushinara was given north-western side of India. Shibi was the son of King Ushinara and his descendants were MadrasKekayas and Sauviras. He is the one who gave flesh for a hawk and an eagle.

  1. Shibi, Vara, Krmi, Dakshas were the sons of king Ushinara.
  2. Vrshadarha, Setuka, Madra and Kekaya were the sons of Shibi (Contemporary to Suryavanshi King Trishanku). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turvasu_Druhyu_and_Anu_Dynasties

Mandhata’s legend is cited in the Vana Parva, Drona Parva, and Shanti Parva of Mahabharata.

King Yuvanaswa of Ayodhya was childless. Once, he went on a hunting expedition and in the afternoon, he became wracked with thirst.

He came across the hermitage of sage but found no one. The king saw a pitcher of water and drank it. When sage came to know of this, he told the king that the water was meant for his wife so that she would conceive. Since the king drank it he became pregnant with his son.

One century later, the sages and saints arrived to help him give birth and slit open the left side of Yuvanaswa’s abdomen without causing pain and brought the baby boy. Indra, King of the Gods declared “He shall draw sustenance and dependence from me” or “Mandhata”. Indra provided milk from heaven to Manadhata. The milk began to accelerate the boy’s growth. Within twelve days, he resembled a twelve-year-old boy who was thirteen cubits tall. Mandhata spontaneously acquired the entire knowledge of the Vedas and military sciences. Mandhata acquired an impenetrable armor, a quiver with an inexhaustible supply of arrows and the Ajagava bow (originally belonging to Shiva) which fell from the sky. Mandhata ascended the throne.


‘Then Indra said to the king Muchukunda, “O king, we, the Devas are indebted to you for the help and protection which you have given us, by sacrificing your own family life. Here in the heaven, one second equals one year of the earth and you had fought with asuras for one year of heaven. Since, it has been a long time, there is no sign of your kingdom and family because it has been destroyed with the passage of time. We are happy and pleased with you, so ask for any boon except Moksha (liberation) because Moksha (liberation) is beyond our capacities”.


It is probable that as Muchukunda , Mandhata were very close to Indra, especially Mandhata being the Foster Son of Indra,Chozhas ,as a token of respect might have celebrated Indra Vizha in honor of Indra.And Mandhata,Sagara, Muchukunda …all are ancestors of Chozhas because Chozhas belong to Ikshvaku Dynasty.



Chola Sibi Founded Madra Kingdom in North Mahabharata

I have written that Chozha King Shibi,aka Sivi , was the great Great grandson of Yayati,of Chandravansa,Lunar Dynasty of India. Lunar Dynasty sprang from Ikshvaku/ Solar/ Suryavansh to which Sri Ram belonged.

Sibi was a Chozha,also called as Chola, belonging one of the three Ancient Kingdoms of Tamils,Chera, Chola and Pandya.Sibi is mentioned exhaustively in Jataka works of Buddhism, Mahabharata and Ramayana and of course in early Tamil Sangam literature.He built a temple for Vishnu in Thiruvellarai,about 10 kms from Srirangam,Tamil Nadu,which is a Holy site for Vaishnavas.The temple at Thiruvellarai is dedicated to Sri Vishnu,in His aspect as Pundarikaksha. Sibi was an emperor, Chakravarty, and he ruled from the northwest region, currently in Pakistan.Based on the evidence available then , I arrived at the place as somewhere in NWFP in Pakistan or near the border of Pakistan and Afghanistan. People of that region still speak Tamil even today. I shall write on this later.

Now I am able to identify the place from where King Sibi Ruled. It is called Sialkot,now in Pakistan.Sialkot was called Sagala and was a part of Madri Kingdom,later to Meena Kingdom(?).Madri, the other wife of Pandu, apart from Kunti, belonged to Kuru Dynasty.Madra Kingdom was founded by Shibi., great Grandson of Anu.There is also a view that it was founded by Sibi’s grandson.And the capital suggested was Arishtapura,Sibisthan.

However,the information is that Sibi or his descendants established the Madra Kingdom. This is located in the northwest of India.This confirms my earlier view that Sibi , Chola King ruled from the Northern part of India , and he had his first capital in South.This also nails the Aryan Invasion Theory.As I had observed Tamil is being spoken in the northwest port of India,Pakistan Afghanistan border.

Sibi /his descendants established the Kekaya Kingdom too.Moreto follow on this.

I shall be writing on the Chera Pandyan connection to Rajasthan Tribes, with DNA evidence.

According to the Vayu Purana, the Madra Kingdom was founded by King Ushinara Shibi of the Anu race. Anu was the son of Yayati.

According to Bhagavata Purana, The kingdom of Madra was founded by Madra who was the son of Anu King Shibi in Treta Yuga.


According to Bhagavata Purana and Mahabharatha, his sons were Vrshadarbha (Prince of Sivi Kingdom), Sudhira, Madra and Kekaya who established Madra and Kekaya kingdoms.



Chola King Sibi Ancestor Of Rama Great Grand Son Of Yayati

I had written about the List of Kings of India from Ikshvaku Dynasty to Chandragupta Maurya. I have also listed out the List of Kings from the Lunar Dynasty,Chandra Vamsa. I had observed all the dynasties of India had sprung from the Ikshvaku Dynasty to which Sri.Ram belongs.The Ikshvaku dynasty is also referred to as Solar Dynasty and Suryavamsa..The Chandravamsa has its origin from Ila, sister of Ikshvaku. She married Budha and had Purururavas as as Her son and Pururravas was the first of the Chandravamsa or Lunar Dynasty.Other dynasties of India sprang from Eitther Ikshvaku or Chandra Vamsa.this includes the Yadu Vamsa of Sri.Krishna..( So, Krishna is related to Rama)

There were two parallel landmasses in ancient India, The Arya Vartha and Dakshina pada,The south of Vindhyas..Those in the Dakshina Pada were called Dasyus and they had a distinct cultural identity, though it is linked to AAryavartha.In fact ,Dakshina Pada culture was so good that Sage Viswamitra’s sons, who were banished to Dakshina Pada by Viswamitra , that their descendant Apasthamba incorporated the Dakshinapada concept of wearing Mangal Sutra,Thaali in Vedic Marriage.(Source..History of Tamils by Sri.PT.Srinivasa Iyengar)Apasthamba sutra is practiced even today in the South of Vindhyas.Vedic practices were also followed in the Dakshina pada by the Three Tamil Kings,Chera,Chozha and Pandya.Tamil way of Life incorporated many thoughts of Vedas.

The three dynasties of South, Chera,Chozha and Pandyas trace their ancestryto either Ikshvaku Dynasty or Chandra Vamsa, Lunar Dynasty.Chozhas call themselves as the descendants of Ikshvaku Dynasty, as evidenced from the Copperplates from Thirukkoilyur and also from the epigraphs of Kanyakumari.The copperplates extoll the virtues, called Meykkeerti in Tamizh, mention that the Chozhas were from Kasyapa Gotra!Again, the twist is that Sri.Rama belongs to Chozha Dynasty and not the other way round! Reason, Chozhas’Ancestor Sibi was the Twenty fifth King of Ikshvaku Dynasty, while Rama was the Eighty first,’25. Purukutsha (married with Narmada), Ambarisha (adopted by Yuvanashva), Muchukunda (helped Deva in Deva-Asur War andlatter he killed Kaal Yavan by fire from his eyes at the time of Sri Krishna Avatara in end of Dwaparayuga) (Contemporary to Chandravanshi King Sibi who was founder of Keikaya and Madra Kingdom)…81. Rama ruled 11,000 years as mentioned in Valmiki Ramayana, Vishnu Purana, Harivansha Puran, Agni Puran, Srimad Bhagavat Maha Puran (Lakshmana, Bharata andShatrughna are his siblings and they are also avatar of lord Vishnu)
In the Ramayana, we find that, Lava and Kusha were the sons of Rama.” reference.https://indianmeena.wordpress.com/2019/12/27/family-tree-from-ancient-to-present/

There is a Temple near SriRangam in Tamil Nadu, Thiruvellarai and it was built by Sibi, ancestor of Rama.I ahd written a detailed article on the wonders of this temple in a separate article.Sibi is reported to have ruled from somewhere near Pakistan SWAT Valley, or Afghansitan Pakistan Border.That city was used by Sibi as his second capital. It is probably Sialkot.Shall write on this later.

Finding and palcing Sibi in the genealogy chart of Surya vamsa had been tough.
i cross checked with many puranas and came up with the fact fact that Sibi was the son of Usinara of Chandravamsa..Usinara was the son of Anu and Anu was the son of Yayati of Chandravamsa.

  1. Anu
  2. Sabhanara
  3. Kaksheyu
  4. Kalanara
  5. Srnjaya
  6. Puranjaya
  7. Janamejaya (Contemporary to Suryavanshi King Anaranya)
  8. Mahashala
  9. Mahamana was the great devotee of Lord Vishnu
  10. Ushinara and Titikshu

Ushinara was given north-western side of India. Shibi was the son of King Ushinara and his descendants were MadrasKekayas and Sauviras. He is the one who gave flesh for a hawk and an eagle.

  1. Shibi, Vara, Krmi, Dakshas were the sons of king Ushinara.
  2. So That makes Sibi as the Great Grand son of Yayati.Yayati and Devayani , Daughter of Sukracharya were the ancestors of of Sibi .Yayai and Devayani were the parent’s of Sibi’s Grandfather,Anu.

To sum up,Sibi belonged to Chandravamsa,He was the Graet grand son of Anu, son of Yayati and Devayani( Devayani’s Father was Sukracharya, Asura Guru).

Sibi ruled from northwest of what is now Pakistan area and he founded Madra, Kekaya and Sauvira Kingdoms.I shall explore this poit as this directly points out the information that Rajputs Meena Kingdom is related to Sibi and Chozhas.

References and citations.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turvasu_Druhyu_and_Anu_Dynasties https://ramanisblog.in/2020/10/17/sibi-chozha-suryachandra-yadu-vamsa-research/


Ikshvaku Dynasty Ended 1634 BC By Mahapadma Nanda

I had provided earlier Kings List of India, belonging to Ikshvaku Dynasty.It is also called as Solar Dynasty/Suryavamsa..In a series of articles I updated the list based on the Information from Matsya,Vishnu and Brahmanda Purans..

The other Vamsa or Major Dynasty is Chandra Vamsa or Lunar Dynasty, which had its beginning from the sister of Ikshvaku,.Ila married Budha son of Chandra and had Pururavas as a son.Pururavas is the first King of Chandra Vamsa and his child descendants are called Pauravas,Same as Chandra Vamsa.The other Dynasties of India including Yadava have sprung from the Ikshvaku or through Lunar dynasty. As stated earlier, as Ila was the sister of Ikshvaku’Lunar dynasty is related to Ikshvaku.

The Ikshvaku Dynasty came to an end with King Sumitra in in 1634 BC

The Ikshvahu dynasty frm Treta Yuga ,from million years ago extended upto Dwapara yuga and ended with King Sumitra who was defeated and driven away from Ayodhya.

Then we find continum from that period from Magadha dynasty,which belongs to Lunar Dynasty,Chandravamsa from Bruhatradha.


Last king Sumitra was killed by Mahapadma Nanda in 1634 BCE.
Chanakya was contemporary to this Mahapadma Nanda (Dhana Nanda), who placed Mahapadmananda’s protege Chandragupta, son of Mahapadma Nanda by his wife ‘Mura‘ on the throne of his father..

Vishnu Purana, Amsa IV, chapter 22

IkshvakuNaa mayaa vaMsaha, sumitrAntO gamishyatihi

Read these too.https://ramanisblog.in/2020/05/11/indian-history-kashmir-kings-2448-bc-1753-bc/



Dravidian Roots of Sri Rama

The Aryan Invasion Theory floated by the British to divide and rule India through paid missionaries like Max Mueller, who under the garb of translating ancient texts of India, sowed the seeds of Divisive tendencies, is long dead and and buried.

The new Archeological finds in India, Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere have provided evidence to the presence of Sanatan Dharm and the so called Dravidian Culture coexisted amicably. Presence of Tamil Brahmi Script, Murugan’ s Kavadi( a sort of Bamboo balance used by the Faithful to carry it to Murugan’s temple as a practice), in Harappa ,the establishment of a second capital by a Chozha King, Sibi, aka Sivi, in what is now the SWAT region of Pakistan are a few examples.

The Vedas and ancient Tamil classics refer to two distinct landmasses. One, the land of Tamils and another land of Aryas, Aryavarta.These texts also mention other lands like Yavanas(Greeks)Chinese, calling them as milechas.

The term milechas is used by Vedic and puranic texts denote people who deny the authority of the Vedas and in general were Atheists.

However,Tamils were called as Dasyus,the term indicating people who follow Sanatan Dharma but do not follow Fire Worship,which was primary in Vedic period. Other than this, Tamils were following the concept of God as found in Vedas and in even refined the Concept.

Earliest available Grammar work of Tamil , Tholkaappiyam, divides the land of Tamils into five regions .They are,

Kurinji( mountainous region),Mullai( Forest lands,Marutham(Arable land),Neydhal(Land consisting of ocean and surroundings and Paalai( Desert Region).

Each region was assigned a God. Kurinji-Murugan, Subrahmanya;Mullai- Vishnu; Marutham-Indra; Neydhal – Varuna and Paalai – Durga ,called Kotravai.

In addition to this, the five Great epics of Tamils,

  • Silappadikaaram
  • Chhevakachinthamani
  • Valayapathi
  • Kundalakesi
  • Manimekalai

These five great epics of Tamil Sangam Period speak highly of Sanatan Dharma, though Cheevakachinthamnai speaks more about Jainism.Other Sangam works.Aatruppadai Anthologies, Maduraikkkanchi , Puranaanuru ,Aganaanuru and other texts refer to Sanatan dharma.I have mentioned only a few as the list is endless.The Bakthi Literature of Naayanmars, and Azhwars of the Middle Ages have made such a rich contribution to Bhakthi Yoga, that if one removes them from Tamil Language, Tamil Language would become soulless.

Vedas Reference to Tamil

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Madurai 360 view

The Vedas refer to Tamils and Tamil Kingdoms , right from the Rig Vedic Period.The Rig Vedic Hymns state that the special items for performance of Yagnya , Akil( a Type of Incense from log), Sandalwood,Spices,Tusks and elephants, are to be procured from Tamil( Pandya Kingdom).The reference of Shiva in Tamil Classical literature is quite exhaustive.The early Avatars of Siva are mentioned in Thiruvilayaadal Puranam.Siva is regarded as the Founder of Tamil Language, along with Agastya and He gave the custody of Tamil to His son Subrahmanya, aka Murugan in Tamil. The Text Irayanar Agapporul, a treatise ‘called ‘The study of stolen love'” is attributed to Shiva, in His Avatar as Chokkanatha, who ruled Madurai.The core sixty verses were reported to have been composed under Altar of Chokkanatha in Madurai Meenakshi Amman Temple.Tamil and Sanskrit have emerged from the Damaru of Siva simultaneously and the ancient Tamil and Sanskrit had fifty one letters each and they represent the Fifty Aksharas of Devi.

Mahabharata References.

Madurai Meenakhi’s( Presiding deity of Madurai Meenaksi Amman Temple) Father Malayathdwaja, also called Saranga took part in Mahabharatha Battle and he fought valiantly against Drona.The refernce is found in Vyasa Mahabharata.

A Chera King, Perun chotru Udiyan Neduncheralaathan fed both Kaurava and Pandya Armies in the Epic battle of Mahabharata.

Arjuna, Bheema went on a pilgrimage to South and they mariied Tamil Brides, Bheema a Naga ,Arjuna a Pandyan Parincess.

Krishna took part in the Second Conclave of Poets in Kavatam, Kapatapuram as Chief Guest.Krishna married a Pandyan Princess and had a Daughter whom he married off to A pandyan Prince.Krishna gave away 101 Families as Dowry to His daughter at Madurai.Silappadikaaram, one of the great epics in Tamil mentions this in Aaychiyar Kuravai.

References to Sanatana Dharma By Tamil Kings, Epigraphs, Copperplates.

Thiruvaalangadu Copperplates, found in Thiruvcaalankadu, near Chennai state that the Chozhas Belong to Ilshvaaku Dynsty of Rama.Chozhas have traced their ancestry to Solar/Suryavansh.They also declare that the belong to Kasyapa Gotra.These Copperplates belong to Rajendra Chola, son of the Great Rajaraja Chozha.This information is reinforced in Kanyakumari Epigraphs.Tamil Epic Silappadikaaram devotes an entire chapter to the Raasa Leela of Krishna as Aaychiyar Kuravai .Vedic symbols are found in ancient Coins issued by Tamil Kings.Chozha Kings use the Title Sembiyan.This term is from King Sibi( Sivi) who was a chozha King, a predecessor of Rama.

Copper plates belonging to Chera ,Udiyan Cheralaathan and Karaikal Chozha mention that these kings granted lands to Brahmins ,ordaining them to perform Vedic Rites,Agnihotra daily.

Udiyan Cheralaathan performed Tharpana for the Dead in Mahabharata battle , in Chera Kingdom. Tamil Sangam literature records this.

Dravidian Roots of Rama.

Rama belongs to Ikshvaku Dynasty. Ikshvakku is the son of Manu, First Human.Manu was a Dravida King.

I found a sloka in the Bhaghavatham which states that Satyavata Manu, the ancestor of Lord Rama was a Dravidian.

“Yo ‘sau satyavrato nāma, rājarṣir draviḍeśvaraḥ

Jñānaḿ yo ‘tīta-kalpānte, lebhe puruṣa-sevayā

Sa vai vivasvataḥ putro, manur āsīd iti śrutam

Tvattas tasya sutāḥ proktā, ikṣvāku-pramukhā”

-Srimad Bhagavatham 9.1.2-3

yaḥ asau — he who was known;

satyavrataḥ — Satyavrata;

nāma — by the name;

rāja-ṛṣiḥ — the saintly king;

draviḍa-īśvaraḥ — the ruler (lord, master) of the Draviḍa countries;

jñānam — knowledge

; yaḥ — one who;

atīta-kalpa-ante — at the end of the last kalpa,

lebhe — received;

puruṣa-sevayā — by rendering service to the Purusha;

saḥ — he;

vai — indeed;

vivasvataḥ — of Vivasvān;

putraḥ — son;

manuḥ āsīt — was  the Vaivasvata Manu;

iti — thus;

śrutam — I have already heard;

tvattaḥ — from you;

tasya — his;

sutāḥ — sons;

proktāḥ — have been explained;

ikṣvāku-pramukhāḥ — headed by Ikṣvāku;

nṛpāḥ — many kings.

That saintly king and ruler (king) of the Dravida Countries who was known by the name of Satyavrata, at the end of the last kalpa (before the Pralaya) .. received knowledge by service to The Purusha, he indeed was Vaivaswata Manu, the son of Vivaswan, his sons have been proclaimed as the kings, famous as the Ikshvakus.Srimad Bhagavadham.

Sagara ,Ramas Ancetor Link.

‘Sagara) is a prominent king of the Suryavansha dynasty in Satya Yuga. He has two wives, one a princess of the Vidarbha, and the other from royal lineage of Sivi,’ a Chozha King.

Details of the lineages of Ramayana and Seetha are described in the Bala Kanda of Valmiki Ramayana.

naabhaagasya bhabhuuva aja ajaat dasharatho abhavat |
asmaat dasharathaat jaatau bhraatarau raama lakSmaNau || 1-70-43

43. naabhaagasya aja bhabhuuva= Naabhaaga’s, Aja, became – son; ajaat dasharathaH abhavat= from Aja, Dasharatha, is manifest; asmaat dasharathaat= from him, from Dasharatha,; bhraatarau raama lakSmaNau jaatau= brothers, Rama, Lakshmana, are born.

“Aja was Naabhaaga’s son and from Aja, this Dasharatha is manifest, and from him, from this Dasharatha, these brothers, Rama and Lakshmana are born… [1-70-43]’

Rama was the son of Dasaratha and therefore the grandson of Aja.

Aja married Indumathi,a Pandyan Princess at her Swayamvara.

Details of the lineages of Ramayana and Seetha are described in the Bala Kanda of Valmiki Ramayana.

naabhaagasya bhabhuuva aja ajaat dasharatho abhavat |
asmaat dasharathaat jaatau bhraatarau raama lakSmaNau || 1-70-43

43. naabhaagasya aja bhabhuuva= Naabhaaga’s, Aja, became – son; ajaat dasharathaH abhavat= from Aja, Dasharatha, is manifest; asmaat dasharathaat= from him, from Dasharatha,; bhraatarau raama lakSmaNau jaatau= brothers, Rama, Lakshmana, are born.

“Aja was Naabhaaga’s son and from Aja, this Dasharatha is manifest, and from him, from this Dasharatha, these brothers, Rama and Lakshmana are born… [1-70-43]’

Rama was the son of Dasaratha and therefore the grandson of Aja.

Aja married Indumathi,a Pandyan Princess at her Swayamvara.

This is mentioned in Balakanda of Ramayana and Raghu Vamsa of Kalidasa.

Rama’s sister Shantha married Rishyashrunga,from Sringeri,Karnataka.

Tamil Kings attended the Swayamvara of Nala and Damayanthi, ancestors of Rama

Rama, Atlantis, Lemuria.

As Rama’s name has been found in the Sumerian King List, I checked Mesopotamia and Sumeria back ground.

We find Sanatana Dharma remains in these areas,not restricted to Rama alone.

There were three civilizations since 30,000 years ago.

30,000 BC

First Illuminatus, Gruad, rules in Atlantis.

15,000 BC

Tiahuanaco, the height of the Lemurian remnant, begins construction.

According to historians, Kuadam was very close to Tiruchendur. Abraham Pandithar says that Greeks in those days named it as Periplus port’ ( Wiki)

The Tami land extended from Kapadapuram to Then Madurai.

The distance is about 7460Kms and the western side the land stretched to Africa!( 700 Katham)

In this area there were 49 Tamil Kingdoms, called Ezheezh Nadukal( 7*7 countries).

Adiyarkunallar mentions that the lost land extended from Pahruli river in the north to the Kumari river in the South. It was located to the south of Kanyakumari, and covered an area of 700 kavatam (a unit of unknown measurement). It was divided into 49 territories (natu), classified in the following seven categories:

  • Elu teñku natu (“Seven coconut lands”)
  • Elu Maturai natu (“Seven mango lands”)
  • Elu munpalai natu (“Seven front sandy lands”)
  • Elu pinpalai natu (“Seven back sandy lands”)
  • Elu kunra natu (“Seven hilly lands”)
  • Elu kunakarai natu (“Seven coastal lands”)
  • Elu kurumpanai natu (“Seven dwarf-palm lands”)(wiki)

Many Tamil Hindu shrines have legendary accounts of surviving the floods mentioned in Hindu mythology. These include the prominent temples of Kanyakumari, Kanchipuram, Kumbakonam, Madurai, Sirkazhi and Tiruvottiyur.[8]:57–69 There are also legends of temples submerged under the sea, such as the Seven Pagodas of Mahabalipuram. The Puranas place the beginning of the most popular Hindu flood myth – the legend of Manu – in South India. The Sanskrit-language Bhagavata Purana (dated 500 BCE-1000 CE) describes its protagonist Manu (aka Satyavrata) as the Lord of Dravida (South India). TheMatsya Purana (dated 250–500 CE) also begins with Manu practicing tapas on Mount Malaya of South India.[8]:57 Manimeghalai (dated around 6th century CE) mentions that the ancient Chola port city of Kavirippumpattinam (present-day Puhar) was destroyed by a flood. It states that this flood was sent by the Hindu deity Indra, because the King forgot to celebrate a festival dedicated to him.

There are refernces in Atlantis legends that the earth had an inner core populated with people.

“The first is Mother Earth’s inner crust, which is a continuation of the external surface crust. The two Polar Regions each have a large entrance or hole, somewhat like a cored apple, and the crust wraps itself down and around the mantle into the hollow interior. The outer and inner crusts have very similar topography: Both comprise oceans, continents, mountain ranges, lakes, and rivers. It is merely that the inner crust faces the Earth’s core. This core glows and is surrounded by a cloudy veil. The light given off is more diffuse that the light of the Sun, so the daylight in inner Earth is softer and gentler than on the Earth’s external surface. The second main feature of inner Earth is the so-called cavern worlds. These are immense hollows within the mantle, some of which are natural features created by Mother Earth, while others were made using the advanced technology of inner Earth’s major society, the land of Aghartha. This land is the last living remnant of Earth’s second Galactic Federation colony, Lemuria.

Lemuria, in her original form, was a surface society with a subterranean component. The primary capital city was situated on the large island that sank beneath the waves of the Pacific some 25,000 years ago. A secondary capital city was located in inner Earth. It was to this city that the government of Lemuria moved after the cataclysm. The new ruler of the surface, the Empire of Atlantis, ordered the major tunnel entrances to be sealed. It was only during the final days of Atlantis that the Lemurians broke these seals and thus saved many surface dwellers from certain death. These people formed a society that subsequently returned for a time to the surface and became the Rama Empire situated in Southern Asia. Then the Great Flood of 8,000 BC ended this attempt to save humanity from the dark ways of the Anunnaki. Despite this setback, Lemuria persisted in her role of protecting the surface world from these havoc-wreaking rapscallions. It was her galactic emissaries that maintained membership for this solar system in the Galactic Federation.

After the Great Flood and the demise of the Rama Empire, the Lemurians regrouped and named their newly combined society Aghartha. The capital Shamballah was relocated to a cavern located far beneath the city of Lhasa in modern Tibet. Many tunnels connect Shamballah to the surface in the Himalayas. These were used by holy men who came to spread their great energy and divine wisdom to the outside world. In this area, an extraordinary place was kept for special occasions, where holy men and their chosen disciples met in order to maintain Mother Earth’s sacred energy grids. This work, together with numerous rituals performed daily throughout inner Earth, is largely responsible for keeping alive the divine energy that is Lemuria’s main legacy to the surface peoples of Mother Earth. Lemuria, and later on Aghartha, have continuously held the Light for your transformation back into fully conscious Beings of Light.”( Source. http://www.paoweb.com/sn020706.htm)

The term Kapatam means Window.

Probably the reference in the Atlantis legend means Kapadapuram when they say Lemurians emerge from the sea.

The Kapadapuram was established by  a Tamil Pandya King .

‘With this loss of the large territories of the Pandiya country and the demise the Paandiya king Kadungkon, the next successor to Paandiyan throne was the king Paandiyan Nediyoan. This king escaped the great disaster and moved more towards the north and captured many new regions including parts of Chera and Chola countries and made them into a new Pandiyan country.

He distributed the captured lands to his subjects who met the loss of their own lands but possibly escaped this great tragedy, made him get the title “Nilam Tharu Thiruvit Pandiyan” (which means: “the Pandiyan who made the kind gesture of lands”) and as “Nilam Tharu Thiruvit Nediyoan”.

The Paandiyan king Nediyon built his new capital city at Kapaadapuram (Kavaadam) closer to the sea. The Paandiyan king with a view of preventing further sea disasters had a festival in celeberation for the Sea God, and hence he was known as “Munneer Vilavu Nediyon” (Munner Vilavu = Sea (God) celeberation) and also as “Vadivalamba nintra Paandiyan”.

He also excavated a new artificial river named “Pahruli Aaru” flowing through the city of Kapaadapuram towards the sea of the Indian Ocean possibly to make the region fertile and self sufficient in water.

He also re-organised the Second Thamil Sangam at Kapaadapuram and as an initial measure requested the renowned Tamil Poet of the period the Tholkaappianaar to compose a new Tamil Grammer, as the original Tamil Grammer composed during the period of first Thamil Sangam by the great Poet Agaththiyar known as Ahaththiyam, apparently was lost in the great Land Slide in which the first capital city ‘Then Mathurai’ (South Mathurai) also known as “Naan maadak Koodal” went under sea.

(Source.  http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthread.php?9994-A-brief-study-on-the-Pandiyas-(Paandiyar)-of-the-quot-Second-Sangam-quot-Period-of-Tamil-Nadu)

“. The new ruler of the surface, the Empire of Atlantis, ordered the major tunnel entrances to be sealed. It was only during the final days of Atlantis that the Lemurians broke these seals and thus saved many surface dwellers from certain death. These people formed a society that subsequently returned for a time to the surface and became the Rama Empire situated in Southern Asia. Then the Great Flood of 8,000 BC ended this attempt to save humanity from the dark ways of the Anunnaki.”

The Atlantis people’ sealing the Lemurians’ probably means the Mascarene plateau.

Lemuria existed south of this plateau, which was consumed by the sea about 6000 years ago.

The surfacing of Rama dynasty may indicate the fact that Satyavrata Manu ancestor of Rama had migrated to Ayodhya(whose son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku Dynasty) and the subsequent emergence of Lord Rama and His Kingdom.

One may note that the Ramayana and the Puranas call the Tamil areas as Dravida, meaning South, Dasyu, meaning who do not follow all the percepts of Sanatana Dharma( though they were practicing Sanatana Dharma they were not Fire (Agni) worshipers),and Viswamitra banished his sons to the south directing them to go to the Dasyu Land.

Normally this area has been taken as stretching from the Vindhyas, but due to the emergence of the Fact about Mascarene Plataeu , the reference may be to Manscarene plateau

To sum up,

The Lemurians (Tamils) were in existence during the Ramayana Period,

Their land was extended to Then Madurai from Kapadapuram.

They were a part of the Rama Empire,

The continent was destroyed by three large floods which wiped out most of the golden civilization with it:

12,000 BC

Indian country of Rama existed. Remains of their large cities still exist in the deserts of India and Pakistan (Mohenjodaro). Indian texts from this period tell of anti-gravity space ships called Vimanas, or Astras, and a war with the Atlanteans on the moon. Curiously, Soviet scientists have discovered what they call “age-old instruments used in navigating cosmic vehicles” in caves in Turkestan and the Gobi Desert. The “devices” are hemispherical objects of glass or porcelain, ending in a cone with a drop of mercury inside. Some ancient Indian texts describe a war with Atlantis (who flew Vailixi machines) using flying machines and atomic bombs.,,

King Atlas (King Of Atlantis) and Prince Osiris (heir to the throne) desired to create secondary domains where they could re-establish the Lemurian Empire . This intention was thwarted by the actions of Osiris’ younger brother, the Emperor Seth. As present ruler of the Libyan/Egyptian Empire (that covered all of Africa), Seth decided that with the fall of Atlantis his Empire (in league with the rebel Sons of Belial) was to be its last stronghold. He made it his goal to re-establish the Atlantean Empire with himself as its all-powerful, ‘divine right’ emperor (of the world).

‘conflicting objectives resulted in deadly warfare between Osiris and his brother Seth. Leading Osiris’s Egyptian armies was Osiris’ eldest son Horus. After Osiris’ unfortunate ‘death’, Horus succeeded his father as king of the Libyan/Egyptian Empire. Intuitively, Horus knew what would happen when they landed in Libya. He completely distrusted his uncle. Horus persistently warned his father about Seth’s stubbornness and treachery. Osiris, believing in the goodness of the human heart, initially ignored his son’s advice. Subsequently, Osiris landed in Libya and after Seth’s abdication became Emperor’

After the demise of Osiris, his son Horus entered into a pact with Rama Empire(Emperor Zata’ar’s eldest son, Prince Rama.) to defeat Seth, the usurper.

This new Indus river civilization allowed Horus to establish a temporary chain of powerful fortress cities in the Sinai. Thus, Horus was able to attack Seth’s forces and later kill Seth in a mighty battle.

And when forces attacked Rama at Rishi Valley , they were defeated by Rama.

Thus for service rendered Rama go the territories in Sumeria.

Valmiki  concludes the Ramayana with the coronation of Rama and nothing more is heard of him later from Indian sources (at least to my knowledge) except extolling Rama’s virtues and reading Ramayana

Knowing Valmiki for his graphic details and narration of facts, in my opinion, he would not left this information.

As there are many versions of Ramayana, we might have lost a chapter detailing  Rama’s empire.

This could have been before Rama’s departure from this world

And there followed the first( or second) Great flood after Rama’s period, as recorded in world literature.


How Western Scholars (Mis)Interpret Sample From Rig Veda

There are people in India and abroad, who love to learn their mother tongue and culture through foreigners.If I want to know more about my mother or father , I would do it by myself, especially if they are alive.Fortunately Sanskrit , other languages of India and Indian culture is still Alive.So,Why not learn from the Source?

No doubt some western scholars had done yeoman service in Indexing and translating Vedic texts. Unfortunately most of them had Agenda, namely proselytizing the population. Some of them were in the Employ of the Church like Max Muller Some information about Max Muller..

It (The Rigveda) is the root of their religion and to show them what the root is, I feel sure, is the only way of uprooting all that has sprung from it during the last three thousand years.”-Max Mueller to His wife,in his lett

Later he also wrote to the Duke of Argyle, the then acting Secretary of State for India:

“The ancient religion of India is doomed. And if Christianity does not take its place, whose fault will it be?”

The Biblical Creation Theory states that the world was created with all its life forms at 9.00 AM, October 23, 4004 BC .’

Mr.Boulanger, the editor of Russian edition of The Sacred Books of the East Series, in the context of the commentary/translation of the Vedas by Max Muller, stated:
“What struck me in Max Muller’s translation was a lot of absurdities, obscene passages and a lot of what is not lucid…. As far as I can grab the teaching of the Vedas, it is so sublime that I would look upon it as a crime on my part, if the Russian public becomes acquainted with it through the medium of a confused and distorted translation, thus not deriving for its soul that benefit which this teaching should give to the people”. Uproot Rig Veda, Max Muller

Rig Veda says “Krunvanto Vishwam Aryam”. ( 9.63.5). I did a simple exercise. I checked translation of this by Griffith and Wilson:

“Performing every noble work, active, augmenting Indra’s strength,
Driving away the godless ones.” (Griffith’s translation)


Augmenting Indra,urging the waters,making all our acts prsperous,destroying witholders of oblatins” (Wilson)

Now the phrase is not even typical Vedic Sanskrit. It is a very simple phrase to translate.But to Griffith the words “Krunvanto” and “Vishwam” do not exist. To Wilson, all three words do not exist in the verse. The cardinal mimansa rule of interpreation is “Yatha Vachanam Tatha vachanikam” (Read it as it is without adding anything or subtracting anything).Messrs.Wilson and Griffith discard this rule. Probably, the motive is to paint the word “Aryan” as racist.

Translating the words as “Ennoble the whole world” would mean they cannot attribute racist connotations to the word

.source for the above citation. Excellent site. Please visit. https://sites.google.com/a/vedicgranth.org/www/misconceptions-on-vedas/misconception-5-vedas-can-be-interpreted-by-western-scholars-better-because-they-are-more-scientific

Yet another correct Translation.

Om Indram vardhanto apturah krinvanto vishwamaryam.
Apaghnanto aravnah
(Rigveda – 9/63/5)

Meaning, the humans must enhance the ‘Indra’ i.e. the soul, the prosperity and the good deeds, removing their attitudes of misery and the evils. This not only helps us improve our own lives but also helps us contribute towards the betterment of others. This was the main reason why Maharshi Dayananda Saraswati declared “Krinvanto Vishwamaryam” as the motto for Arya Samaj.

Here, the word “Arya” does not refer to any particular ‘race’, ‘cast’ or ‘creed’; rather, it means a virtuous person. As it has been said:

Kartavyamacharn Karma, Akratvyamanacharan.
Vishthti Prakritachare yeh sa Arya smriteh
(Vasishtha Smriti)

Meaning, a person who does only praiseworthy acts, holds the traditions in high regard and upholds them, does not adopt harmful habits and actions, but instead gets rid of such, and is, by his or her nature, a caring person, is alone called Arya.



Aryan Definition Rig Veda, History Encyclopedia

इन्द्रं वर्धन्तो अप्तुरः कृण्वन्तो विश्वं आर्यं अपघ्नन्तो अराव्णः

There is a lot of Talk about who Aryan Is and there was a theory, though repudiated now, being touted by self styled Secularists even today, and also that the Aryans were inimical to Indigenous population in India, though only God only knows whom they designate by that term.

If ,the term Dravida is meant by them there definition is not right either. Shall write on who/what a Dravida is.

In this article let me see what Arya means. Arya, in Sanskrit means ,’One who is without Blemish, brave, Not cowardly( see Anaryajushtam Akeerthikaram me Arjuna-Bhagavad Gita Chapter 2.

इन्द्रं वर्धन्तो अप्तुरः कृण्वन्तो विश्वं आर्यं अपघ्नन्तो अराव्णः  – Rigveda 9.63.5
Indram vardhanto apturah krinvanto vishwam aaryam apaghnanto araavNah – RV 9:63:5
Here the key word is “AraavNah (अराव्णः) which categorically means “one who isn’t liberal, hence of jealous and hostile ideology”..
Augmented by Indra’s strength, civilize the world by destroying the non-liberal and jealous oneshttp://kalchiron.blogspot.com/2011/03/civilize-world-in-what-context.html

Say Rigveda (9.63.5): Indram vardhanto apturah, Krinvanto Vishvam Aryam..

They (Aryas, Somas) advance fast and vibrant at top speed, glorifying life and the Creator, making the world noble, reducing and eliminating the causes of suffering, forces, of negativity, uncreativity, selfishness, exploitation, fear and terror.

Such are the Aryas: dynamic, enlightened, creative, and constructive, in the direction of positive progress, peace and happiness of all (niyam 6 & 9).

The meaning the word Samaj is ‘a united, integrated, harmonious, living and vibrant community, itself moving and moving and advancing all others to a life of peace and comprehensive all round progress, physically, mentally, culturally and spiritually, for the individual and society as a whole.’ http://www.aryasamaj.com/enews/2011/aug/3.htm

Definition By History Encyclopedia.

 “Aryan is a designation originally meaning “civilized”, “noble”, or “free” without reference to any ethnicity. It was first applied as a self-identifying term by a migratory group of people from Central Asia later known as Indo-Iranians (who settled on the Iranian Plateau) and, later, applied to Indo-Aryans (who traveled south to settle northern India). The word had no widespread ethnic connotation prior to the 19th century CE other than its usage by the Persians (known as ‘Iranians’ from ‘Aryans’) to distinguish themselves from their Muslim Arab conquerors in the 7th century CE, and even then (it could be argued) it was not so much an ethnic distinction as one of class and personhood. Prior to the conquest Persia had been “the land of the Aryans” and, afterwards, a term was coined for non-Aryans.https://www.ancient.eu/Aryan/


Brahmin Christians Matrimonial Website Next Vedic Christian Marriages?

I have written on How Christians convert Hindus under the garb of Brahmins.


Christian Brahmana Seva Samithi

Conversion is also done soon after Death in a Hindu household by sending them messages offering Salvation for the Departed by The Church. There is Yesu Suprabhatham,Astothram Sahsranama.

And Churches are built in Dravidian Temple Design.

Church in Hindu Temple design.

Christians in India wesr Kumkum in most cases in Tamil Nadu,Flag Hoisting, Dwajarohana for festivals in Churches including at Velankanni,Ratha Yatra during Christian festivals.

Christ is portrayed as A Rishi/Yogi.

Only thing is left is for Christians to call Christ as A Hindu God,Murugan,Siva ..

Or have they done it already! 😂

Now you have a website for Converted Brahmins!

Matrimonial website for Converted Brahmins 😂

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Source and Citations.



Rama’s Dravidian Origin Webinar History Dept CCSU Meerut

A webinar is being organised by Department of History , Choudhary Charan Singh University, Meerut and Itihas Sankalan Samiti of Meerut Prant on 21 October at Three PM(IST)

Details are under.

Presentation will be in English and Hindi. Those who speak other languages may also join as translation facility is available. Question and answer session follows the Presentation.

Sri. Rama

‘There is a big lobby in India that is working overtime to break India.
Rajiv Malhotra and Arvindan Neelkandan have written extensively about
such conspiracies in Their Book “Breaking India”. Those who are
working to break India has found two faultlines- Dravid and Dalit.
Many pseudo intellectuals of this breaking India gang instigate
gullible people of India that Northern India is Aryan whereas Southern
India is Dravid. Ram is the ideal hero of North India Aryans whereas
Ravan is hero of Dravids.
It is the recent articles by a devoted scholar Venkata Ramanan, a
Tamil Brahmin, who is trying to establish that Shri Ram had South
India ancestors. Vaivasvat Manu after a powerful Tsunami migrated to
higher lands of North India.They established Kaushal Rajya. His son
Ikshwaku floated a dynasty after his name. Shri Ram was his
descendant. He spread his empire all over the globe. And after several
millenia his descendant Rajaraja Chol established a very powerful Chol
dynasty in the South India and spread across vast areas. Shri Venkata
Ramanan’s thesis, based on ancient Tamil and Sanskrit texts is a very
powerful repudiation of the divisive narrative of Breaking India
 Deaprtmrnt of History of Chaudhary Charan Singh University, Meerut
and Itihas Sankalan Samiti of Meerut Prant is jointly organising a
Webinar on above subject.Shri Venkata Ramanan will be the main
speaker. This online webinar will be presided by the Vice Chancellor
Prof. Narendra Kumar Taneja ji.And HOD Prof.  Mrs.Ajay Vijay Kaur and
Prof. Vighnesh Tyagi ji will participate.This will be attended by
faculty, students, social activists, and many enlightened persons
having interest in the glorious past of Bharat. No pre registration is
required for joining the webinar.All persons having interest in the
subject may join the event. Thanks.
Date: 21, October 2020, Wednesday
Time: 03:00 PM
Join Zoom Meeting
Meeting ID: 845 9069 8596


Sibi Chozha Surya,Chandra Yadu Vamsa? Research

I had written an article on the fact that the ancestors of Rama, including Manu had intimate connections with Dravidas, people from the south of Vindhyas. They were called Dravidas because the land lay south of Vindhyas.They were a part and parcel of Bharatavarsha and Sanatana Dharma.

I published a Video providing proof that the ancestor of Rama, father of Ikshvaaku, the founder of Solar/Surryavansh/Ikshvaaku dynasty, was from the South.Later while talking about another ancestor od Rama, I spoke about Sibi,the Chozha Emperor ruled from the SWAT region of what is now Pakistan. Video( In Tamil) Below on Sibi.

For the video ( in Tamil)on Sibi, I received the following comment.

‘Respected Sir, Ancestry of rama nu genealogy search panni paathen, can’t find the name Sibi in the lineage given in any site, the first several names are there in the lineage but the name sibi seems to appear in one of branches of chandravamsa lineages, i got confused. And as per this thiruvelkadu cheppadu, Dhusyantha and bharatha are also mentioned ancesters of chola in that lineage, but it is obvious that both these kings are chandravamsi. It seems that later Chola kings (post sangam age who use sanskrit names instead of tamil names) lacked clarity of thier ancestry. Might be of mixed ancestry where sangam era cholas may belong to progenitor of surya vamsa and later chola may be descendants of chandra vamsa (just a guess), even if we take this assumption to be true, still cholas identify themselves as suryavamsi only not as chandra vamsi why?, i have no idea what scriptures and puranas to refer to solve this puzzle, so plz upload a video clarifying this confusion Sir. Thankyou..’

The question is on the target.The intermarriage between Suryavansha and Chandravansh was frequet.The reason is that Manu had a Daughter,Ela.She married Budha, son of Chandra and had a son through him. He was called Purururavas.While many versions of the tale exist, Ila is usually described as a daughter or son of Vaivasvata Manu and thus the sibling of Ikshvaku, the founder of the Solar Dynasty. In versions in which Ila is born female, she changes into a male form by divine grace soon after her birth. After mistakenly entering a sacred grove as an adult, Ila is either cursed to change his/her gender every month or cursed to become a woman. As a woman, Ilā married Budha, the god of the planet Mercury and the son of the lunar deity Chandra (Soma), and bore him a son called Pururavas, the father of the Lunar dynasty. After the birth of Pururavas, Ilā is transformed into a man again and fathered three sons.

So Ila being the sister of Ikshvaaku, the children of Ikshvaaku and Ila are related as Uncle and Aunt’s children and it is customary to intermarry among these relatives.

In the following list, one would find the name of Sibi as a Yadava King, belonging to Krishna’s dynasty, which if Yadava.







S148)SENAJIT NIPA – 1325


S150)SETU DRUHYU -1520



The above site is authentic and please visit this site to now more about Tamil and Sanatana Dharma.


the Indus riversAccording to Sivi Játaka, king Sivi (as Bodhisatta) had ruled Sivirattha with his capital at Aritthapura (Aristapura of Sanskrit) and is said to have donated his eyes to a blind Brahmana Chinese traveler Faxian records the scene of this story at So-ho-to (Swat), a country to the south of Oddiyana between the Kabol and

https://youtu.be/1uI96-RNVuE .

In some versions, Sivi appears as a personal name but in others it is the name of the country and its people. According to 7th-century Chinese monk and traveller Xuanzang, Sivika (Sibika) had cut his body to pieces to save a dove from a hawk. Xuanzang described Sivika as a personal name or an epithet. Chinese envoy Song Yun (518-20 AD) also refers to Sivika raja (Sivi king) and connects him to Oddiyana.Thus, the Chinese evidence connects king Sivi/Sivika and the Sivi people or country with the Oddiyana/Swat territory between the Kabol and Indus rivers, which forms part of modern Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province of Pakistan. Aritthapura of the Buddhist Sivi Jataka is same as the Orobatis of Alexander’s historians.[6] B. C. Law connects Jataka’s Aritthapura with Ptolemy‘s Aristobothro in the north of Punjab.

It has been identified with Shahbazgarhi region, north of river Kabol. Dr S. B. Chaudhury also states that Aritthapura of the Sivi Jataka points to Swat valley as the ancient country of the Sivis. Matsya Purana says that Indus flowed through the Janapada of Sivapura (country of the Sivis)

The Sivis, as described by Alexander’s historians, “were a shaved-headed people, worshipers of god Shiva, wore clothes made from animal skins, and were warlike people who fought with the clubs…most of these are also the salient characteristics of the ancient Kambojas”.

Mahabharata refers to the Kambojas as Munda (“shaved-headed soldiery”). In the same Mahabharata text, Rudra Siva is also given the epithet of Munda. The Kambojas are also attested to have been ardent worshipers of Siva-cult (Munda-cult).

 S. Levi states that “the Kambhojas were a branch of the Bhojas and were not a part of the Aryans (i.e Indo Aryans)”.The name “Kambhojas” is etymologised as Kamblala + Bhojas (“the Bhojas with Kambalas or blankets”) as well as Kamniya + Bhojas (meaning “The handsome Bhojas or the desirable Bhojas”). Thus, Levi and others have connected the ancient Bhojas with the Kambhojas. Both Kambojas and the Bhojas are also referred to as north-western people in the 13th Rock Edict of king Asoka. Thus, the Kambojas appear to have either been anciently and inadvertently confused with the Bhojas who were a Yadavatribe, or, else, there was indeed some kind of link between the Bhojas and the ancient Kambhojas as S. Levi suggests. Writers like James F. K. Hewitt and others also connect the Sivis, Bhojas and the Drhuyus with the Kambhojas. The Chinese evidence on king Sivi as well as king Vessantara (Sudana, Saniraja or Pi-lo of the Chinese records), the rulers of Oddiyana (in pre-Buddhist times) also seems to lend a fair credence in this direction.


‘Kulya (Prince of Andhra and whose descendants were Pallavas and Tondai Kings), Chola (Founder of Chola Kingdom and Dynasty), Pandya (Founder of Pandya Kingdom and Dynasty), Kerala (Whose descendants were Cheras) – Because of these kings Dravida Country (Tamil and Sanskrit are the two eyes of this country) was developed. https://en.everybodywiki.com/Turvasu,_Druhyu_and_Anu_Dynasties

Tamil Reference to Sibi. ‘

  1.  ‘கூர் உகிர்ப் பருந்தின் ஏறு குறித்து ஒரீஇத்,
    தன் அகம் புக்க குறுநடைப் புறவின்,
    தபுதி அஞ்சிச் சீரை புக்க,
    வரையா ஈகை உரவோன்’
    என்று சிபிச் சக்கரவர்த்திச் சோழனின் வரலாற்றை புலவர் தாமப்பல்கண்ணனார் குறிப்பிடுகிறார். புறநானூறு 43
  2.  புறவின் அல்லல் சொல்லிய, கறை அடி
  3. யானை வால் மருப்பு எறிந்த வெண் கடைக்
    கோல் நிறை துலாஅம் புக்கோன் மருக!
    ஈதல் நின் புகழும் அன்றே -புறநானூறு 39
  4.  புள் உறு புன்கண் தீர்த்த, வெள் வேல்,
    சினம் கெழு தானை, செம்பியன் மருக! -புறநானூறு 37
  5.  நீயே, புறவின் அல்லல் அன்றியும், பிறவும்
    இடுக்கண் பலவும் விடுத்தோன் மருகனை, – புறநானூறு 46
  6.  எள்ளறு சிறப்பின் இமையவர் வியப்பப்
    புள்ளுறு புன்கண் தீர்த்தோன் – சிலப்பதிகாரம், வழக்குரை காதை
  7. Tamil Sangam literatire Purananuru and Silappadikaaram Speak highly of Sibi and detail the story narrated in the Puranas,including Vishnu Purana and alos in Siva Jataka Tales.

So, we have following information.

1.Sibi was a Chozha King.

2.Chozha Kings trace their origin to Ikshvaaku Dynasty and Solar and Lunar Dynasties intermarried.

3.Tamal Language is found near NWFP and Afghanistan.

4.Tamil kings had relations with Akkadians.

5.Presence of Dasaratha, Rama and Bharatha in Kings List of Sumeria. So, the point is that because of these relations with Sumeria and Akkadians, Sibi could have had his second capital in the area around Pakistan, Kabul. Some historians place the area as west part of Rajasthan and some the western part of Punjab.

6.Manu was a Dravida King.

6.Rama belonged to Chozha dynasty, who claim that they belong to Ikshvaaku dynasty and were from Kasyapa Gotra.

7.Ila was the sister of Manu and as such ancestor of Rama and by implication is related to Suryavansh, though she belongs to Lunar Dynasty, Chandravansh.

8.Not only, Purans, but Tamil literature and Buddhist Jataka refer to the Sibi narration , without any change.

So, it is safe to conclude that Sibi was indeed a Tamil King with Sanatana Dharm, Roots, who had a capital in North west of what it Pakistan now.

And he could have belonged to Ikshavaaku, Chandravansh or Yadava Dynasty as the latter sprang from the Ikshvaaku Dynasty, Suryavansh/Solar Dynasty.

Reason to identify is taking long is that his name in Sanskrit could have been different and am looking for it and update.


Tamil Epic Silappadikaram Quotes Harivamsa Of Vyasa ,Bhasa

It is matter of interest to note that one of the Five Epics of Tamils, Silappadikaram speaks about the dance of Sri Krishna in detail. The Epic was written by Ilango Adigal,A Jain Monk, younger brother of Chera King Chetan Senguttuvan,a famous Tamil.

Dance of Krishna. image
Dance of Krishna. imageKrishna Dances with Gopikas

The epic narrates the story of Kannagi and Kovalan.In the epic, in one of the Cantos called Pujaar Kaandam,Ilango Adigal describes the dance of Krishna thus.

‘Krishna danced with His elder brother Balarama and His younger sister ( Subhadra),along with children’

What is unique is that this description of Krishna along with his brother and sister was described in Brihad Samhita ,while laying down the rules for making idols of Krishna, Balarama and Shubhadra.Bruhad Samhita lays down rules so strictly to describe how Krishna’s hands’ position is to be in the idol.

That a Jain monk describes what is essentially a Hindu God and the brother of the author of the Epic is a Hindu King.

This also nails the canard that Tamil and Tamils are against Sanatana Dharma.

மாயவன் தம்முன்னினொடும், வரிவளைக் கைப் பின்னையொடும்,
கோவலர் – தம் சிறுமியர்கள் குழல் கோதை புறம்சோர,
ஆய் வளைச் சீர்க்கு அடி பெயர்த்திட்டு அசோதையார் தொழுது ஏத்த,
தாது எரு மன்றத்து ஆடும் குரவையோ தகவு உடைத்தே. சிலப்பதிகாரம் 17-11 Silappathikaram 17-11மதுரைக் காண்டம்

மாயவனும் அவன் முன்னோன் பலராமனும் பார்த்துக்கொண்டிருக்க, நப்பின்னையோடு சேர்ந்து சிறுமியர் கூந்தல் பின்புறம் அசைந்தாடக் குரவை ஆடுகின்றனர். தாதெரு மன்றத்தில் (பூக்கள் கொட்டிக் கிடக்கும் மன்றத்தில்) இவர்கள் ஆடும் ஆட்டம் தகைமை சான்று விளங்கியது.

And the description of this nature is found in Balacharitha by Bhasa in Sanskrit in a Drama form.This description is found in Harivamsa too.Following are the relevant lines in Silappadikaram.

ஆயர்பாடியில் எருமன்றத்து மாயவனுடன் தம்முன் ஆடிய
வாலசரிதை நாடகங்களில் வேல் நெடுங்கண்
பிஞ்ஞையோ டாடிய குரவை யாடுதும் யாமென்றாள்
கறவை கன்று துயர் நீங்குகவெனவே;”

The dance by Krishna aling with Gopikas in Gokula,which is described in Balacharitha- I shall perform’

Reference. http://www.tamilhindu.com/2009/12/who-is-nappinnai/?fdx_switcher=true


Aliens Humanoid Or Something Else?

I have written in an earlier post that i shall be writing on some of the anomalies found around the world. These anomalies relate to Human History, Anthropology, Presence of things which ought not to be present, strange phenomenon, advanced concepts and Technogym in our past. I am posting below some images and comments I had come across. What emerges is that ,these anomalies are authentic and real; they pose a question mark on the history taught to us and the biology of human beings need to be reevaluated; these anomalies imply that there were races unknown to Man was present, some of them may not be Humans atall. Could be that they were Aliens, or Humanoids or may be different thing altogether.

In this context, I recall he articles I had written about Hanuman of Ramayana , the Hindu Epic, Presence of Bicycle in a Sculpture in a temple of about 14000 years old, Micro drilling technology in evidence in the rock at Mahabalipuram, Tamil Nadu, India, advanced architectural concepts aligned with Celestial events…..And some of the Advanced scientific thoughts are found in ancient texts of India.

Our History needs to be rewritten.

These skulls were photographed by Robert Connolly on his trip around the world during which he was collecting materials about ancient civilizations. The discovery of unusual skulls was thus an unintended “spinoff” of his efforts. Robert Connolly published his photographs on a CD-ROM, titled “The Search For Ancient Wisdom”, Cambrix, 1-800-992-8781, in 1995.

Ancient Skulls
Human skulls found ,Alien? Image
Human Skulls found around the world

‘When some of these pictures (the first two) were posted on CompuServe more than year ago, the majority of people assumed that they represented an example of binding of the head, well known to be in fashion in ancient Nubia, Egypt and other cultures. The problem with this theory is that the inside of the cranium of the mentioned skulls, although elongated and with a back sloping, flattened forehead, have the same capacity as normal human skulls; the only difference is the shape achieved by frontal and side deformations. They are actually more similar to the first type of skull (premodern) with the rounded back, than the conehead type. The cone-shaped types of skull are not found amongst the usual skull-binding samples.

The first skull presents problems of its own. The frontal part of the skull seems to belong to an individual of the pre-Neanderthal family, but the lower jaw, though more robust than modern human type, has a modern shape and characteristics. The shape of the cranium does not have any comparison with the Erectus, Neanderthal types, nor the modern human type. Some minor Neanderthal characteristics are present, as is the occipital ridge on the bottom back of the skull and the flattened bottom of the cranium, other characteristics point more tovards Homo Erectus. The angle of the cranial bottom is, though, unusual. We cannot exclude the possibility of a deformed individual in this case, but it is highly unlikely that the angle of the frontal part would require a modification of the lower jaw in the process of growing to resemble modern human types with their projected chin rim. The answer seems to be that the skull belongs to a representantive of an unknown premodern human or humanoid type.

As is obvious from the comparison with a modern human skull, the cranial capacity lies within the modern human range. This is not surprising, since the late Neanderthals and early modern humans (Cro-Magnon) had larger cranial capacities (both roughly 1600 ccm to 1750 ccm) than modern humans (av. 1450 ccm). The decrease of the cranial capacity (sudden at that — the specimens of modern humans after about 10500 BCE have smaller craniums) is a puzzling matter, but that´s another story.

No less puzzling is what a representative of a premodern human type is doing on the South American continent. According to the orthodox anthropology, this skull simply does not exist, because it cannot be. Textbooks´ oldest date of appearance of humans in North America is about 35000 BCE and much later for South America, based on the diffusion theory assumptions. The only accepted human types entering the continent are of the modern anatomy. There are some other sources that place all types of human genus in both Americas at much earlier dates based on numerous anomalous finds, but the academe sticks to its preconceived notions, no matter what. It´s safer.”

More info and images below…

References and citations.


This site also has some good images.

Skulls from Ica, Peru and Merida, Mexico

QUOTEThe first skull presents problems of its own. The frontal part of the skull seems to belong to an individual of the pre-Neanderthal family, but the lower jaw, though more robust than modern human type, has a modern shape and characteristics. The shape of the cranium does not have any comparison with the Erectus, Neanderthal types, nor the modern human type. Some minor Neanderthal characteristics are present, as is the occipital ridge on the bottom back of the skull and the flattened bottom of the cranium, other characteristics point more tovards Homo Erectus. The angle of the cranial bottom is, though, unusual. We cannot exclude the possibility of a deformed individual in this case, but it is highly unlikely that the angle of the frontal part would require a modification of the lower jaw in the process of growing to resemble modern human types with their projected chin rim. The answer seems to be that the skull belongs to a representantive of an unknown premodern human or humanoid type.

Source article. http://www.puppstheories.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2155

Amazon Skulls

Some text from the link above…

“In 1833 the skeleton of a man 12 feet tall (3.6m) was unearthed by soldiers digging a pit for a powder magazine in Lompack Rancho, California. It had a
double row of teeth and was found with a bonanza of huge stone axes, carved shells and blocks with symbols carved on them. The remains were reburied and the location ‘forgotten” when the locals saw this as proof of their “pagan” legends of giant gods.

In 1856 a skeleton of a 10′ 9″ human (3.28 metres) was found in West Virginia while ploughing a vineyard. Local law took the skeleton and said it was a hoax because 3 bullets had been found in the skull. What this had to do with anything or the rest of the huge skeleton is anyone’s guess.”

I took a couple more screenshots from the website and posted the text below.

“Found in Mexico in 1926, this skull is that of an adult who lived to an old age. Unlike usual birth or genetic “defect’s, this skull is perfectly formed and proportioned – showing no abnormal thickening or anatomical deformaties caused by it’s odd shape…it is a perfect skull of a being who lived and functioned with this type of anatomy.


Note. Images and quotes are from the sources mentioned.


ராமர் சோழ குலத்தவர்

இராமரின் குலத்தை ஆராய்ந்தால், அது இக்ஷ்வாகு குலம் என்பது தெரியவரும். அதுவே சூரியகுலம் என்றும் அழைக்கப்படும்.இராமரின் மூதாதையர் சிபிஐ மற்றும் இக்ஷ்வாகு. இகாஷ்வாகுவின் தந்தை மனு. உலகத்தின் முதல் மனிதன். அவரின் மகன் இக்ஷ்வாகு வின் குலம் சூரிய வம்சம். இலஷ்வாகுவிற்கு இளா என்று ஒரு மகள் உண்டு.அவளின் வழித்தோன்றல்கள் ஈழத்தவர்.

ஈழம் எனும் சொல் இளா எனும் சொல்லில் இருந்து உண்டானது. இளாவின் மகள் பெயர் திராவிட,Dravida.இராமரின் சகோதரி ருஷ்யஸ்ருங்கர் மனைவி , சாந்தா.அவர்கள் வசித்தது ஸ்ருங்கேரி, கர்நாடகம்.இராமரின் முன்னோர் சிபி ,இப்போதைய பாகிஸ்தானில் உள்ள north west province இருந்து , அதை இரண்டாம் தலை நகராக நியமித்து அரசாண்டார்.அவர் கட்டிய கோயில் திருவெள்ளரை யில் உள்ளது. இக்ஷ்வாகு குலத்தை ச் சேர்ந்த முசுகுந்த சக்கரவர்த்தி, இராமரின் இராமரின் முன்னோர்.எனவே ராமர் சூரிய வம்சம் சார்ந்தவர். மேலே உள்ள விவரங்களுக்கு http://www.ramanisBlog.in என்ற இணைய தளத்தில் காணலாம்.( இந்த இணைய தளம்).

ராமர் சோழ குலத்தவர்


Vaivaswatha Manu, the First Man,after whom the word ‘Man’ was coined.

He hailed from the Dravida Desa, Dravida in Sanskrit meaning South.

Bhagavatha Sloka mentions that Manu was a Dravida. I am providing a Link on this and on the fact that Manu meditated near Madagascar.

Manu,apart from sons had a daughter,Ila or Ela.From Ela sprang the Aila dynasty.This is the Chandra Vam!sa or Lunar Dynasty.From the Male offspring of Manu came the Surya Vamsa or Solar Dynasty. I shall be writing on the other sons of Manu and what happened to them. While people talk of Vedic kingdoms,they tend to overlook or notice the kingdoms of Dravida Desa.They were respected by the kings of Aryavartha.(I shall write on what Aryavartha means and its boundaries.The people of Aryavartha and Dravida Desa intermarried.So did the Kings.

People of Dravida Desa were ruled by the great Kings,Chera,Chola and Pandyas.They ruled the South.And the early kings ruled from the landmass Lemuria.These kings trace their ancestry to Surya Vamsa.Lord Rama belonged to this Dynasty. One of his ancestors,Sibi,had a second capital near North West Frontier Province,now in Pakistan.Much earlier to him was Muchukunda ,who killed a Yavana King,Yavana means Greek.

The Cholas called themselves as Descendants of Surya Vamsa.They also had ceremonial titles,one of them being Parakesari,the name of a King belonging to Surya Vamsa,Solar Dynasty.Cholas also called themselves as belonging to Kasyapa Gotra.Am providing Link towards the closing of the art.That the Cholas belonged to Solar Dynasty is known from Literary sources,Epigraphs and Copper Plates.I am mentioning one copper plate called ‘Thiruvaalankaadu Cheppedugal,Copper Plates of Thiruvaalangadu,Thiruvaalangadu being the name of a town near Chennai,Tamil Nadu,India.These copper plates were found in the famous Siva temple there.The other copper plate is from Kanyakumari,Tamil Nadu.

திருவாலங்காடு செப்பேடு.
திறுவெள்ளரை , சிபி கட்டியது.

Copper plate inscriptions are made in individual copper plates,strung together with Royal Seal.These generally contain two parts.One part will list out the genealogy of the king in whose period it was prepared and the other part details the grants given to Temples,Villages,and persons. It also lists work to be carried about by the individual officers of the local adminstration and also by those to whom the grants had been provided.

In the Thiruvaalangadu Cheppedu,31 plates are found;ten are in Sanskrit and twenty in Tamil.The thirty copper plates are in the form of flower petals and are joined together by Chola Royal Seal.It also has Chera,Pandya and Rashtrakoodas,signifying that The Cholas have conquered them all.The plates are in praise of Rajendra Chola. His father was Rajaraja Cholan,who built the Thanjavur Big Temple.Rajaraja Cholan was also called as Arulmozhi Varman. These plates were put in place during the sixth year for his reign,that is around 1004 to 1044 AD.https://ramanisblog-in.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/ramanisblog.in/2020/04/05/cholas-from-surya-vamsa-ramas-dynasty-copperplate-evidence/amp/?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQCrABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16025821280287&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Framanisblog.in%2F2020%2F04%2F05%2Fcholas-from-surya-vamsa-ramas-dynasty-copperplate-evidence%2F


பூம்புகார் காலம் 11000 ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன்

சிலப்பதிகாரத்தின் மிக முக்கிய களமாக விளங்கியது காவிரிப் பூம்பட்டினம்.புகார் என அழைக்கப்பட்ட இந்நகரம் சோழர்களின் சிறந்த துறை நகராக உயர்வு பெற்றது. யவனர்கள் மற்றும் ரோமானிய வணிகர்கள் இத்துறைமுகத்தின் வாயிலாக வாணிபம் மேற்கொண்டனர்.

1980,1984, மற்றும் 2004 ஆண்டுகளில் புகாரில் National Institute of Oceanography மற்றும் Archeological Survey இவர்களால் மேற்கொள்ளப்பட்ட ஆய்வில், புகார் நகர் சுமார் 11000 ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முற்பட்டது என்பது உறுதி செய்யப் பட்டது. கிரகாம் ஹான்காக் அகழ்வாராய்ச்சியாளரின் பங்களிப்பு இக்கண்டுபிடிப்பில் இன்றியமையாததாகும்.


The Tamil sites who have been calling me names have now been sending mails to me requesting to publish more articles on the antiquity of Tamil!

This after my recent articles on Tamil and Sanskrit.

Well I shall continue to write facts as they are available, relying more on Indian Literature ,Epigraphy, Linguistics rather than some big fancy Names of self-styled Indologists.

Now on the find of the material being dated 11000 Years  sets the Tamil History and the Sanatana Dharma back at least by 20,000 years.

But the Tamil Sangams are dated at

“that the first two of which were held in cities since “taken by the sea”, and the third of which was held during the 5th century BC in the present-day city of Madurai.'(wiki).

Silappadikaram  has been dated to likely belong to the beginning of Common era.

The incidence of Kovalan Madhavi and Kannagi took place in the same period as the poet who wrote the Tamil Epic was the brother of the Chera King Cheran Senguttuvan.

However the recent finding placed these dates to 11000 years back!

So it is logical to arrive at the conclusion that the Silappadikaram Town was in existence around 11000 CE and for a rich language as Tamil to develop, from a dialect, colloquial form and then to literary ,it requires  minimum  5000 Years.

And Tamil quotes Ithihasas ,Ramayana and Mahabharata and the Vedas.

That should place these Ithihasas earlier .

Hence based on this evidence available now, Tamil should be at least 16000 years old and the Sanskrit Puranas earlier.

Please read my Post Million Year Old Tamil quotes Vedas and they quote Tamil.

But we are assigning Tamil Sangam at 500 BC and Rig veda at 5000 BC!

The date of Poompuhar artifact was arrived at and verified by  Glenn Milne Sea Level changes.

The place is called Poompuhar. It lies on southeast India’s Coromandel coast facing the Bay of Bengal between modern Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka. Its immediate offshore area has been the subject of marine archaeological investigations by India’s National Institute of Oceanography since the 1980’s — and numerous non-controversial finds of man-made structures dated between the third century AD and the third century BC have been made in the “inter-tidal zone” close to shore at depths down to 6 feet (approximately 2 metres).

These finds of structures in shallow water (some so shallow that they are exposed at low tide) have been quite widely written-up in the archaeological literature. But for some reason other discoveries that the NIO has made in deeper water off Poompuhar have attracted no attention at all. Most notably these other discoveries include a second completely separate group of structures fully three miles from the Poompuhar shore in water that is more than 70 feet (23 metres) deep. The lack of interest is surprising because to anyone with even minimal knowledge of post-glacial sea-level rise their depth of submergence is – or should be – highly anomalous. Indeed according to Glenn Milne’s sea-level data the land on which these structures were built last stood above water at the end of the Ice Age more than 11,000 years ago.

Ancient Sundaland
Emerging Sundaland.
புகார் இடிபாடுகள்.

Sanskrit Tamil Devi’s Letters Synchronised Thirumoolar

I had written my earlier articles that ancient Tamil and Vedic Sanskrit had fifty one letters and that these two languages arose from the Damaru of Siva, as i had written earlier is recorded to have crested these two languages as a Favor to Devi.

Sanskrit ,Vedic

Sounds preccede written scripts.Not aqll sounds can be captured or wriiten down.Language os from Sounds and the other way raround.Sounds express emotions and sounds are spomtaneous.Sounds also express the innermost yearnings of Beings. Spiritual feelings too are expressed though sounds.

Siva, Siddha Thirumoolar, records in his Thirumandhiram a Philosophical and Tantric treatise in Tamil,had created The Fifty one letters of Sanskrit and Tamil to synchronise with the Aksharas of Devi.

The term’ Akshara’ in Sanskrit means Not Limited, conveying the fact that sounds are not limited and depend on one’s level of Spiritual enlightenment.

It is worth noting that Special Aksharas are embedded in Soundaryalahari by Sri Shankaracharya.

Sometimes , sounds are not expressed explicitly in a language but is embedded in it.

Shall be writing on this.

This is the reason certain words are not recommended for usage as they would bring in spiritual downfall and difficulties in daily life.


Goddess of Wisdom , Saraswati.
Ram, the Akshara that Contains Pranava OM
Siva with Sakthi
Foreign Scholars on Tamil

‘ஆகின்ற சக்கரத் துள்ளே எழுத்துஐந்தும் பாகொன்றி நின்ற பதங்களில் வார்த்திக்கும் ஆகின்ற ஐம்பத்து ஓரெழுத்து உள்நிற்கப் யாகொன்றி நிற்கும் பராபரன் தானே 945

பண்டிதர் ஆவார் பதினெட்டு பாடையும்
கண்டவர் கூறும் கருத்தறிவார் என்க
பண்டிதர் தங்கள் பதினெட்டு பாடையும்
அண்ட முதலான் அறம் சொன்னவாறே-திருமூலர்
இந்தியாவின் பண்டைய பதினெட்டு மொழிகளும் சிவபெருமான் சொல்லிய அறம் விதிகளுக்கு உட்பட்டு உள்ளது என்று சித்தர் திருமூலர் சொல்லி உள்ளார்.
ஆதி தமிழ் எழுத்து உயிர் எழுத்து 15 + மெய் எழுத்து 35 + 1 ஓம் பிரணவம்=51 எழுத்து வடிவம் கொண்டு இருந்தது என்று சித்தர் திருமூலர் சொல்லி உள்ளார்.இந்த ஆதி எழுத்துகள் பற்றி பல இடங்களில் சித்தர் திருமூலர் மீண்டும் மீண்டும் திருமந்திரத்தில் சொல்லி உள்ளார். இந்த ஆதி எழுத்துகளில் இருந்து தான் வேதங்கள் ஆகமங்கள் எல்லாம் தென்னிந்தியாவில் தோன்றின என்று சொல்லி அதனால் தென்னிந்தியா உலகில் சுத்தமான இடம் என்றும் சித்தர் திருமூலர் சொல்லி உள்ளார்.

ஓதும் எழுத்தோடு உயிர்க் கலை மூவைந்தும்
ஆதி எழுத்தவை ஐம்பதோடு ஒன்று என்பர்
சோதி எழுத்தினில் ஐயிரு மூன்று உள
நாத எழுத்திட்டு நாடிக் கொள்ளீரே- திருமூலர்

ஐம்பது எழுத்தே அனைத்து வேதங்களும்
ஐம்பது எழுத்தே அனைத்து ஆகமங்களும்
ஐம்பது எழுத்தேயும் ஆவது அறிந்த பின்
ஐம்பது எழுத்தும் போய் அஞ்செழுத்தாமே-திருமூலர்

ஈறான கன்னி குமரியே காவிரி
வேறாம் நவ தீர்த்தம் மிக்குள்ள வெற்பு ஏழுள்
பேறான வேத ஆகமமே பிறத்தலால்
மாறாத தென் திசை வையகம் சுத்தமே-திருமூலர்

இந்த தமிழ் ஆதி எழுத்துகள் பற்றிய குறிப்புகள் ஐம்பத்தோறு அட்சரங்கள் என்று அழுகணி சித்தர்,அகப்பேய் சித்தர்,கொங்கண சித்தர்,போகர்,சிவவாக்கியர்,பட்டினத்து சித்தர் போன்ற எல்லா சித்தர் பாட்டுகளில் உள்ளன. அருணகிரி நாதர் திருப்புகழில் தமிழில் ஐம்பத்தோறு அட்சரங்கள் என்று சொல்லப்பட்டு உள்ளது.பரஞ்சோதி முனிவர் எழுதிய திருவிளையாடல் புராணம் தமிழ் எழுத்துகள் 51 என சொல்லி உள்ளது…
That Tamizh had 31 letters was noted by Thiruvilayaadal Puranam,Siddhas Azhuguni,Agappey,Konganar,Siva vaakiyar,Pattinathaar and Arunagirinaathar.


It may be noted that the first portion of the SoundaryaLahari( was given by Lord Ganesha and the balance was composed by Adi Shankaracharya.

Lalitha Sahasranama contains these Aksharas, Alphabets in them.

Devi is described as ‘Mathruka Varna Roopini’ Lalitha Sahasranama.

Mantrathmika-Lalitha Sahasranama.

Tantra Roopa Manon mayee-Lalitha Sahsranama

Sarva Mantrathmike, Sarva Yantrathmike0Shyamala Dandakam by Kalidasa.Lalita is also known as Matrika Devi, the Goddess of the Letters of the Alphabet. In Sanskrit there are 36 consonants and 15 vowels. In some arrangements of Her yantra these letters are to be found inscribed in the various triangles and petals of Shri Yantra. The combination of the 15 Vowels (the 15 Nityas) and the consonants (the 36 Tattvas) produces all sound, all mantra, all vibration, all word, and all music.

There are 8 letter groups in the Sanskrit alphabet. These 8 groups are personified as the 8 Little Mothers, worshipped all over India. The 9th group is Lalita Herself. She is beyond language and description. It is little realised ‘that gods and goddesses do not have names, but instead are described. “She who Plays” (Lalita) is not the name of the red goddess, but merely one of Her characteristics. She is beyond Name and Form.

In the first 12 verses (shlokas) of the Vamakeshvara Tantra is given a hymn to the Goddess as the Mother of the Letters:

1. I bow to the Goddess made of mantra, who consists of the (51) Ganeshas, the (9) Planets, the (27) Lunar Constellations, the (6) Yoginis, the (12) Signs of the Zodiac, and the (51) Matrika-Seats.

2. I bow to the great Matrika Devi, the Supreme Lady, who in Time is both a fraction of a second and the end of the Universe, the Destroyer and the Creatrix of Time.

3. Who is the whole perfect measure of the letters of the alphabet, worshipped by the Sun, Garuda, the Moon, the God of Love, by Lord Shankar, the God of Fire, and by Vishnu.

4. I worship the Devi of all Devis, the great Shri Siddha Matrika, whose letters of the alphabet, like moonlight, adorn the three worlds.

5. Who is the great thread of the letters of the alphabet, from which is woven the three worlds, who extends from the top of the head to the base of the spine. I worship you, 0 Siddha Matrika.

6. Who is made up of the 11 adharas (in the body), the universe-seed, the source of the primordial triangle. From the top of the head to the base of the spine you are the Origin of the World.

7. Who is the aggregate of the 8 letter-groups A-Ka-Ca-Ta-Ta-Pa-Ya-Sa, the primordial Source and Many Rayed Dweller in the centre of the heart.

8. Unfolder of the letter I, essence of essences, Most Ultimate One, I bow to you Great Devi, form of the Utmost Bliss.

9. The primordial One, of whom other gods and goddesses have no inkling. Who knows what and from where She creates? O Producer of Form and Formlessness!

10. I worship You, the imperishable letter-form from A to Ksha, O Devi, Supremely Auspicious Being. You are the Expansion Mirror, the Maya of the 36 Tattvas.

11. The aggregate of the eight groups of letters, in whom the eight Little Mothers reside, I worship You, Great Lady of the eight siddhis which originate from the eight letter groups.

12. Dwelling at the Auspicious Sacred Seats (Pithas) of Kamarupa, Purnagiri and Jalandhara, I bow to You Great Shree Tripura, the fourfold abode of the Elements.

Syllables of Vidya.

Vidya is feminine of mantra. Lalita has various forms of mantra, the most popular seeming to be the vidya of 15 syllables which runs Ka E I La Hrim, Ha Sa Ka Ha La Hrim, Sa Ka La Hrim. This is a mantra with three sections which correspond to Moon, Sun and Fire. There is said to be a secret 16th syllable which is the Goddess Herself. This vidya is called Kadi (Ka etc.) because of its initial letter. The Kadi doctrine deals with involution of the yantra, the Hadi vidya with evolution. These 15 syllables correspond to the 15 Kalas of the Moon.

If you refer to the pages on Shri Puja and the Bhavana Upanishad as well as the Shri Yantra figure above and the page on the Nine Mandalas of the Shri Yantra, this text becomes much easier to follow..



Tamil Sanskrit Simultaneously By Siva Benevolent Act To Devi

The fact that Sanatan Dharma and Tamil are intertwined is attested by many facts.Tamil Nadu had more Temples than in the North. Sage Agastya, along with Shiva founded the Tamil Language.References to Shiva abounds in Tamil Sangam literature .Vedic Gods Varuna,Durga,Indra,Vishnu and Krishna find a place in Tamil Grammar Tholkaapiyam.Each of them is an Icon of a particular terrain. I have written quite a few articles on the special intimate relationship between Tamil and Sanskrit.

Sanskrit and Tamil emanated simultaneously from the Damaru of Siva.

The most ancient Tamil Tantra sastra , Thirumandhiram by Thirumoolar speaks of the fact that Sanskrit and Tamil were born simultaneously.

‘Tamil and Sanskrit were creted by Siva simultaneously, at the time when Summer,Winter and Ice age got suspended.This, He did, out of Benevolence to Devi’

That is after Pralaya or Dissolution of the Universe.

Aadhi Yogi Siva

மாரியும் கோடையும் வார் பனி தூங்க நின்று
ஏரியும் நின்று அங்கு இளைக்கின்ற காலத்து
ஆரியமும் தமிழும் உடனே சொல்லிக்
காரிகையார்க்கு கருணை செய்தானே. திருமந்திரம் 65)Thirumandhiram by Thirumoolar.

‘He did, out of Benevolence to Devi’

How Siva did this benevolent act of Creating languages as a favour to Devi?

In my next article.


Sanskrit And Tamil Had 51 Letters?Siddha Thirumoolar Thirumandhiram

Tamil, one of the ancient languages has a hoary past. It is ri8ch in Grammar and literature. It is a language that has survived over 10,000 years and is still a very popular language of the world..It is intricately conneted with Sanskrit which is yet another language that is as old as Tamil.These two languages share acommon parent.


Sanskrit and Tamil had sprung from the Damaru of Siva and they sprang simultaneouly.Sivc and His foremost Disciple Sage Agastya founded the Language and it was promoted by none other Murugan,aka Subrahmanya.

Tamil phonetics is different from Sanskrit and is very intwersting.I shall write on this later.

Tamil, as of now, has 247 Letters, depending on the definition you give for Alphabets , whether is the writing symbols or phonomimes or both.

In linguistics, the word alphabet is ambiguous, 1. In the sense of a set of orthographic symbols or characters; 2. A set of contrastive sounds of a language called an inventory of phonemes.


That Tamizh had 31 letters was noted by Thiruvilayaadal Puranam,Siddhas Azhuguni,Agappey,Konganar,Siva vaakiyar,Pattinathaar and Arunagirinaathar.

இணையார் திருவடி எட்டெழுத்தாகும்

இணையார் கழலிணை யீரைந்தாகும்

இணையார் கழலிணை ஐம்பதொன்றாகும் இணையார் கழலிணை ஏழாயிரமே” (878)

அடைவினில் ஐம்பதும் ஐஐந்து அறையின் அடையும் அறையொன்றுக்கு ஈரெழுத்து ஆக்கி அடையும் மகாரத்தில் அந்தமாம் க்ஷவ்வும் அடைவின் எழுத்துஐம் பத்தொன்றும் அமர்ந்ததே 924 Thirumandhiram

‘ஆகின்ற சக்கரத் துள்ளே எழுத்துஐந்தும் பாகொன்றி நின்ற பதங்களில் வார்த்திக்கும் ஆகின்ற ஐம்பத்து ஓரெழுத்து உள்நிற்கப் யாகொன்றி நிற்கும் பராபரன் தானே 945

சித்தர் திருமூலர் தன் திருமந்திரத்தில் ஆரியம் என்ற சம்ஸ்க்ருதம்,தமிழ் இரண்டு மொழிகளையும் சிவ பெருமான் உமைக்கு போதித்தார் என்று பின் வரும் பாட்டில் சொல்லி உள்ளார்.

–திருமூலர் மேலும் சித்தர் திருமூலர்

பண்டிதர் ஆவார் பதினெட்டு பாடையும்
கண்டவர் கூறும் கருத்தறிவார் என்க
பண்டிதர் தங்கள் பதினெட்டு பாடையும்
அண்ட முதலான் அறம் சொன்னவாறே-திருமூலர்

இந்தியாவின் பண்டைய பதினெட்டு மொழிகளும் சிவபெருமான் சொல்லிய அறம் விதிகளுக்கு உட்பட்டு உள்ளது என்று சித்தர் திருமூலர் சொல்லி உள்ளார்.

ஆதி தமிழ் எழுத்து உயிர் எழுத்து 15 + மெய் எழுத்து 35 + 1 ஓம் பிரணவம்=51 எழுத்து வடிவம் கொண்டு இருந்தது என்று சித்தர் திருமூலர் சொல்லி உள்ளார்.இந்த ஆதி எழுத்துகள் பற்றி பல இடங்களில் சித்தர் திருமூலர் மீண்டும் மீண்டும் திருமந்திரத்தில் சொல்லி உள்ளார். இந்த ஆதி எழுத்துகளில் இருந்து தான் வேதங்கள் ஆகமங்கள் எல்லாம் தென்னிந்தியாவில் தோன்றின என்று சொல்லி அதனால் தென்னிந்தியா உலகில் சுத்தமான இடம் என்றும் சித்தர் திருமூலர் சொல்லி உள்ளார்.
ஓதும் எழுத்தோடு உயிர்க் கலை மூவைந்தும்
ஆதி எழுத்தவை ஐம்பதோடு ஒன்று என்பர்
சோதி எழுத்தினில் ஐயிரு மூன்று உள
நாத எழுத்திட்டு நாடிக் கொள்ளீரே- திருமூலர்

ஐம்பது எழுத்தே அனைத்து வேதங்களும்
ஐம்பது எழுத்தே அனைத்து ஆகமங்களும்
ஐம்பது எழுத்தேயும் ஆவது அறிந்த பின்
ஐம்பது எழுத்தும் போய் அஞ்செழுத்தாமே-திருமூலர்
ஈறான கன்னி குமரியே காவிரி
வேறாம் நவ தீர்த்தம் மிக்குள்ள வெற்பு ஏழுள்
பேறான வேத ஆகமமே பிறத்தலால்
மாறாத தென் திசை வையகம் சுத்தமே-திருமூலர்

இந்த தமிழ் ஆதி எழுத்துகள் பற்றிய குறிப்புகள் ஐம்பத்தோறு அட்சரங்கள் என்று அழுகணி சித்தர்,அகப்பேய் சித்தர்,கொங்கண சித்தர்,போகர்,சிவவாக்கியர்,பட்டினத்து சித்தர் போன்ற எல்லா சித்தர் பாட்டுகளில் உள்ளன. அருணகிரி நாதர் திருப்புகழில் தமிழில் ஐம்பத்தோறு அட்சரங்கள் என்று சொல்லப்பட்டு உள்ளது.பரஞ்சோதி முனிவர் எழுதிய திருவிளையாடல் புராணம் தமிழ் எழுத்துகள் 51 என சொல்லி உள்ளது…

That Tamizh had 31 letters was noted by Thiruvilayaadal Puranam,Siddhas Azhuguni,Agappey,Konganar,Siva vaakiyar,Pattinathaar and Arunagirinaathar.

சம்ஸ்க்ருத சொல்களின் வேர்கள் எல்லாம் தென் இந்திய மொழிகளில் குறிப்பாக தமிழ் மற்றும் மலையாளத்தில் உள்ளன.நல்ல தமிழ் அறிவு உள்ளவர்களுகு சம்ஸ்க்ருதம் என்பது சிதைந்த, உருத்திரிந்த பழங்கால தமிழ் என்று அதாவது தென் இந்திய மொழி போல குறிப்பாக தமிழ் மற்றும் மலையாளம் போல உள்ளது என்று விளங்கும். அதாவது தற்போது உள்ள 31 எழுத்து கொண்டு உள்ள செந்தமிழ் என்ற தமிழுக்கு முன்பு இருந்த கருந்தமிழ் என்ற 51 எழுத்து கொண்டு இருந்த ஆதித்தமிழ்.
தொல்காப்பியரும் தொல்காப்பியம் எழுத்து அதிகாரம் பிறப்பியல் கடைசி இரண்டு சூத்திரங்களில் தான் சொல்லிய இலக்கண விதிகள் வெளிப்படையாக பொருள் உணர்த்தும் சொல்களின் எழுத்துகளுக்கு மட்டுமே என்றும் வேதங்களில் உள்ள மந்திர எழுத்துகளுக்கு தான் இலக்கண விதி சொல்லவில்லை என்று சொல்லி உள்ளார்.இதில் இருந்து தமிழில் 31 எழுத்துகள் தவிர மற்ற பல எழுத்துகள் உண்டு என்று தெளிவாகிறது
.( Tholkaapiyar in his Book on Tamil Grammar states that he had set grammar rules only for those words that express meaning explicitly and that he had not included those letters in Vedas that have hidden meanings and by implication he had not set forth rules for such letters in Tamizh. This means that there were more than 31 letters in Tamizh.)

தமிழ் சம்ஸ்க்ருதம் உட்பட இந்திய மொழிகளில் 12 மொழிகளுக்கு மேல் அதிகம் அறிந்த மகாகவி பாரதியும் தான் பகவத் கீதைக்கு எழுதிய உரையின் முன்னுரையில் சம்ஸ்க்ருத வேதங்களின் மொழி நடை மதுரை சங்கத்துக்கு முந்தைய தமிழ் போல உள்ளது என்றும், உபநிடதங்கள் மொழி நடை மதுரை சங்கத்துக்கு பிந்தைய தமிழ் போல உள்ளது என்றும் சொல்லி உள்ளார். நன்னூல் தமிழ் இலக்கணம் எழுதி உள்ள பவணந்தி முனிவர் தன் நூல் தொடக்கத்தில் கடவுள் வாழ்த்திலே உலகின் இருள் மறைய சூரியன் தன் ஒளிக்கதிர்களை பரப்புதல் போல் மனிதர்களின் மன இருள் மறைய இறைவன் அறம் பொருள் இன்பம் வீடு என்பதை மூவாறு (3×6=18) மொழிகளில் கொடுத்தான்… அவைகளில் தான் தமிழ் மொழிக்கு இலக்கணம் எழுதுகிறேன் என்று சொல்லி உள்ளார்.தமிழ் இலக்கணங்களுக்கு உரை ஆசிரியர்கள் பதினெண்(18) மொழி பூமி என்று இந்தியாவை குறிப்பிட்டு உள்ளனர்……..
தமிழ் மற்றும் சம்ஸ்க்ருதம் இரண்டு மொழிகளையும் நன்கு அறிந்த பெரும் சித்தராக இருந்த வள்ளல் பெருமான் இராமலிங்க அடிகள் தமிழ் தொல்காப்பிய இலக்கணம், சம்ம்ஸ்க்ருத பாணிணிய இலக்கணம் இவைகளில் நிறைய தவறுகள் உள்ளன என சொல்லி உள்ளார்.

சம்ஸ்க்ருதம் என்ற சொல்லுக்கு நன்கு செய்யப்பட்டது என பொருள் சொல்லப்படுகிறது. இது சம்+க்ருதம் என பிரிக்கப்படுகிறது. சம் என்பது நல்ல எனவும் க்ருதம் எனபது செய்யப்பட்டது எனவும் சொல்லப்படுகிறது.

இது செம்மை+கரிதம்=செம்கரிதம் அல்லது சன்+கரிதம்=சன்கரிதம் அல்லது சல்கரிதம் அல்லது சற்கரிதம் என்ற தமிழ் சொல்லின் உருத்திரிபு மற்றும் சிதைவு.

தமிழில் கரி என்பது செய் என்ற வினைச் சொல்லைக் குறிக்கும்.

“linguistics, the word alphabet is ambiguous, 1. In the sense of a set of orthographic symbols or characters; 2. A set of contrastive sounds of a language called an inventory of phonemes.

Reference and citations.https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3675863102424784&id=100000033913235

The question is not clear. If you mean the number of letters or characters in the Sanskrit alphabet, in the Devanagari lipi now in use there are 13 vowels (counting hrasva and deergha separately) + the anuswara, visarga and then there are 18 consonants. There is a pluta form of vowel for all vowels – as far as I have seen it is not provided for in the script. People write the hrasva followed by number 3. See the example in Laghu siddhanta kaumudi – कृष्ण३ अत्र गोश्चरति. It is upto you to define if अ३ is a separate vowel, separate from अ and आ.
There are 33 consonants.
According to Panini – अ इ उ ऋ ऌ ए ऐ ओ औ are the vowels; in general, अ and आ are not different; due to udaatta, anudatta, samahara, the three lengths and anunasika anannunaasika difference अ इ उ ऋ have 18 varieties and others 12 each due to hrasva or dirgha abhaavat. The script in use provides for hrasva and dirgha and Vedic Sanskrit uses diacritical marks for udatta etc.
In Tamil (among all Indian languages, in Tamil only) क का कि की कु कू etc are counted as separate letters of the alphabet and say there are 247 letters. If you use that formula for Sanskrit, the result is different.

Sanskrit has a number of compound consonants. It joins two, three, four or even five consonants. [see the word कार्त्स्न्य]. In many cases, the resultant joint letter contains the components like: गङ्गा, पञ्च etc. But the addition of ra, before or after a consonant does not retain the shape of the रेफ eg अर्क वक्र. Should these two symbols be treated as separate letters based on script or they are not to be counted based only on sound? Some compound consonants have separate ligatures not representing the components and even in uccaaran they slightly differ: क्ष त्र ज्ञ are the main examples for this. Some treat these three as three letters in addition to the 33 consonants. When Adi Sankara says; आदिक्षान्त समस्त वर्णनकरी in Annapoornashtakam, he has included क्ष as a separate letter, but not त्र or ज्ञ
The script provides for an avagraha – to indicate the presence of ऽ अ or ऽऽ आ in some positions. That avagraha is not indicated in speech. महान्यायवादि and महाऽन्यायवादि, as far as I know, are pronounced alike. So are the latter parts of श्रद्धयादेयम् अश्रद्धयाऽदेयम्.
Now from the above, it is for you to decide what you want; is it the sound – Vedic, or laukik – or the script and should compound consonants be included etc and then calculate the number accordingly.’

Source. https://www.quora.com/How-many-letters-are-used-in-Sanskrit

Sanskrit alphabets in grammar contain 13 vowels (achah or swaraah) and 33 consonants (halah or Vyanjanaani) making it 46. Besides the above 46 letters there are two more sounds known as Anuswara (period or dot on the letter) and Visarga (:). That brings the total to 48. Hindu scriptures talk of 50 or 51 letters in Sanskrit. Some like Arsha Vidya Gurukul mention even 54 letters.
48 letters consist of 13 vowels+25 consonants+4 semi vowels (ya, ra, la, va) called Antahstaah + 3 sibilants (s.a as in sankh, sha, sa) called Ushmaanah + 1 Aspirate (ha). Scriptures added to them cerebral hard ‘la’ which you find in the Tamil word aval and conjunct consonant Ksha. Making it 50. Some scriptures also add the sound of the semi-circular dot (ardhachandra bindu) or half-moon-dot (hereafter referred to as hmb) nasal sound which you usually find on the sacred symbol letter Om. 54 letters consists of adding two more conjunct consonants trajnya and a lengthened vowel of lr.



Giants Around the World Evidence

I have been writing Ramanis blog since 2009.

I have been writing and sharing information on a wide range of topics including Politics, Current Affairs and news items that were funny and interesting.

After a few years. I started concentrating on the History of Sanatana Dharma and the presence of Hinduism around the world in ancient times.

This has been going on for the past six years. Now I find, as I dig deeper into earlier history of India and of course of the world, that it is not only the history of India that is distorted and hidden ,forbidden and concealed but world history as well.Many issues like UFO,Aliens,Civilizations, are aslo suppressed. Conveniently namimg them as ‘Unsupported” or ‘Conspiracy Theories’, Truth is suppressed despite compelling evidnce.

I propose writing on them with, as usual, from authentic sources.
I request readers to send me information that is authentic but suppressed.

One such is the information about Giants.

Almost all civilizations speak of Giants, including India. We have Giants like Kumbhakarna,Bheema,Kadothgaja and a host of others in In Indian Puranas and Ithihasas,Ramayana and Mahabharatha.The information regarding the finding of Katothkaja’s Gatha was dismissed as Myth.

Yet we see Ravanas’s Pushpaka Vimana Runway and Foot prints of ancient giant in Sri Lanka.Indian texts speak of these giants and they were described as living in the Patala Loka,Nether world. This, according to Indian Puranic texts ,is the present American Continent, both North and South America.

Curiously most of the Giant footprints,Skeletons were found in these areas, Americas.

You may Google Giants America and find information.

One can find information about this in Pinterest, where I have an exclusive Board for Giants, where I have shared quite a lot about Giants.

I am reproducing a sample of Giants” information from reliable ,authentic sources.

News on Giant Skeleton

Giant Skeleton , Turkey

In the late 1950s during the road construction in south-east Turkey in the Euphrates Valley, many tombs containing the remains of Giants were unucovered. At two sites the leg boes were measured to be about 120 cms “47.24 inches”. Joe Taylor, Director of the Mt. BLANCO FOSSIL MUSEUM in Crosbyton, Texas, was commissioned to scupt this anotomically correct and to scale, human femur.
Thi “Giant”stood some 14-16 feet tall, and had 20-22 inch long feet, His or Her finger tips, with arms to their sides, would be about 6 feet above the grounds..

Source. https://pin.it/1orW19t

In 2013, after heavy storms in Ecuador, a large female skull was found in Aloha province. Scientists determined the skull was approximately 600 years old. The discovery of the skull inspired a search for the rest of the skeleton, the parts of which were found and assembled a few weeks later. The skeleton stood at 7ft 4” tall, which was astounding, considering that the average height of a woman in those days was only 5ft 8”.

Giant Footprint Ecuador

Further research lead to the discovery of 5 more giant skeletons in the same area. All of the skeletons were between 7–8 feet tall, and were buried in deep, elaborate graves.

Kentucky Dover Mound.

The Dover Mound in the state of Kentucky, USA, is a large native American burial ground, within which was found the 7ft tall skeleton of an Adena man. What was more interesting than his height was his abnormally elongated head, and disproportionately large torso, in relation to his legs.

At native American burial grounds in Ohio, similar remains were found of incredibly tall men with elongated heads, and disproportionately large torsos.

Initially, the skeletons were thought to be of extraterrestrial origin; but science has confirmed these are definitely human remains. Archaeologists today still find similar remains at native American burial mounds all around the country.

New York Giants.

In 1871, an archaeological dig at a native American burial ground unearthed 200 giant skeletons, some measuring up to 9 ft tall. It was also estimated that the remains could’ve been up to 9,000 years old. At the time, the discovery of these remains was widely reported in the media; but today, the remains have disappeared.

One of the most famous Giant Footprints was found outside Mpuluzi, South Africa. It was found 100 years ago by a hunter, and locals named it “the footprint of God.” The print is 1.2 metres long, and if rest of the body was sized in proportion to the foot, the giant that made it would stand between 24–27 ft tall.

The footprint is in granite (one of the hardest rocks on Earth) and there are no chisel marks around it, meaning that whatever made the print must’ve stepped in the rock while it was still molten. It is estimated that the print could be anywhere from 200 million — 3 billion years old. If the correct age is at the upper end of this scale, the print was made when supposedly the only life on Earth was microbial life. But even at the lower end of the scale, it could not have been made by any human ancestor we know of.

Around the world, there have been similar footprints found embedded in age-old rock. In San Hose, a 2.5 metre footprint was found near a local ranch (whatever made it would have towered over even the giant from Mpuluzi); in the same city, another 1.5 metre footprint was found on a cliff.

In August, 2016, in Guizhou, China, a series of footprints was discovered, with each print nearly 2 feet long, and indented nearly 3cm into solid rock. Scientists have calculated that whatever made the prints would have to be over 13 feet tall.

South Africa Giant Footprint

Reference and Citations




Widow Remarriage Right To Property Rig and Atharva Veda Verses.

I had written in an article that Hinduism sanctions widow remarriage.I had mentioned that Manu Smriti supports Widow Remarriage and by inference concluded that Vedic Hinduism allowed Widow remarriage.

I have been writing for the past eleven years ,trying to present facts as I find them from original sources,be it the Vedas or Archeology in the case of determining the date of Hinduism or the presence of Sanatan Dharm. Unfortunately, at times, it hurts some.

I am pilloried by secular Historians as Being Right, while the traditionalists challenge me for being Liberal and not presenting Vedas in the proper light.

This has happened quite a few times, like the one when I wrote that women should wear Upaveedha or Jaanu and of the Seven Chaste Women,Only one fits the present definition of chastity.

Now for my article on Widow Remarriage, one Swamiji asked me relevant Vedic Verses that support Widow Remarriage.

Here are the verses.

A set of 14 Riks in 18th Mandala of the 10th book deal with treatment of widows.

Rik (X.18.8) is recited by the dead man’s brothers and others, requesting the widow to release her husband’s body for cremation. The Rik also commands the widow to return to the world of living beings, return to her home and to her children and grand children, “Rise, woman, (and go) to the world of living beings; come, this man near whom you sleep is lifeless; you have enjoyed this state of being the wife of your husband, the suitor who took you by the hand.”

ud īrṣva nāry abhi jīvalokaṃ gatāsum etam upa śeṣa ehi |hastagrābhasya didhiṣos tavedam patyur janitvam abhi sam babhūtha ||

This rik also, confers upon her full right on house and properties of her deceased husband. [It was only in the year 1995 the Supreme Court of India interpreted Section 14(1) of the Hindu Succession Act to allow Hindu widow full ownership rights over properties she inherits from her deceased husband]

Rig-Veda not only sanctions survival of a widow and her right to property; but also approves her marriage with the brother of her dead husband; and to live with full dignity and honor in the family. Rig Veda therefore expressly sanctions widow-marriage. Some scholars say the widow could marry any person, not necessarily the brother of the deceased husband or a relative.

Rik (x.18.8) blesses a woman at her second marriage, with progeny and prosperity in this life time:: Go up, O woman, to the world of living; you stand by this one who is deceased; come! to him who grasps your hand, your second spouse (didhisu) ,you have now entered into the relation of wife to husband.

In rik (X.18.9) the new husband while taking the widow as his wife says to her: let us launch a new life of valor and strength begetting male children overcoming all enemies who may assail us.

dhanur hastād ādadāno mṛtasyāsme kṣatrāya varcase balāya | atraiva tvam iha vayaṃ suvīrā viśvā spṛdho abhimātīr jayema ||

AV(XVIII.3.4) blesses the widow to have a happy life with present husband ::O ye inviolable one ! (the widow) tread the path of wise in front of thee and choose this man (another suitor) as thy husband. Joyfully receive him and may the two of you mount the world of happiness.

prajānaty aghnye jīvalokaṃ devānāṃ panthām anusaṃcarantī |ayaṃ te gopatis taṃ juṣasva svargaṃ lokam adhi rohayainam ||4||

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Pandyas 7000 8,64,000 Years Evidence Valmiki Ramayana Kishkindha Kanda

World literature and Religious texts speak of the Great flood. This reference is found in Judaism, Christianity and legends of Lemuria and Atlantis. It is also referred to in the folklores of Maya’s,Incas ,Hitties,and among Australian Aborigines.

Tamil Pandyas date back to 8,00,000 years.

Classic Tamil literature speaks of two Great Floods called ‘கடல் கோள்’ ‘Kadal Kol’.The reference to two floods that took place.Tamil literature records tha there was a Landmass which encompassed 49 Kingdoms, among them the three prominent ones were Chera, Chola and Pandya.The Pandya Kings established Conclave of Tamil Poets,’ தமிழ் சங்கம்’

The first one was conducted in Then Madurai,the second one was at Kavatspuram and the third one was at Madurai ( present Madurai in Tamilnadu)

Shifting of Sangam was necessitated by Great Flood.

After the first flood, capital was shifted to Kapatapuram and when Tsunami consumed it, the Sangam was held at Madurai.

Tamil texts speak of the lineage of the ancient Tamil kings of ancient Landmass

Also list of poets during the period.

World texts speak of these floods and normally these are dated around a few thousand years before Christian Era.

Periplus speaks of Kavatam. Strabo and Pliny mention among other historians of the west.

Adiyarkunallar mentions that the lost land extended from Pahruli river in the north to the Kumari river in the South. It was located to the south of Kanyakumari, and covered an area of 700 kavatam (a unit of unknown measurement). It was divided into 49 territories (natu), classified in the following seven categories:

  • Elu teñku natu (“Seven coconut lands”)
  • Elu Maturai natu (“Seven mango lands”)
  • Elu munpalai natu (“Seven front sandy lands”)
  • Elu pinpalai natu (“Seven back sandy lands”)
  • Elu kunra natu (“Seven hilly lands”)
  • Elu kunakarai natu (“Seven coastal lands”)
  • Elu kurumpanai natu (“Seven dwarf-palm lands”)(wiki)

Many Tamil Hindu shrines have legendary accounts of surviving the floods mentioned in Hindu mythology. These include the prominent temples of Kanyakumari, Kanchipuram, Kumbakonam, Madurai, Sirkazhi and Tiruvottiyur.[8]:57–69 There are also legends of temples submerged under the sea, such as the Seven Pagodas of Mahabalipuram. The Puranas place the beginning of the most popular Hindu flood myth – the legend of Manu – in South India. The Sanskrit-language Bhagavata Purana (dated 500 BCE-1000 CE) describes its protagonist Manu (aka Satyavrata) as the Lord of Dravida (South India). TheMatsya Purana (dated 250–500 CE) also begins with Manu practicing tapas on Mount Malaya of South India.[8]:57Manimeghalai (dated around 6th century CE) mentions that the ancient Chola port city of Kavirippumpattinam (present-day Puhar) was destroyed by a flood. It states that this flood was sent by the Hindu deity Indra, because the king forgot to celebrate a festival dedicated to him.

There are refernces in Atlantis legends that the earth had an inner core populated with people.

“The first is Mother Earth’s inner crust, which is a continuation of the external surface crust. The two Polar Regions each have a large entrance or hole, somewhat like a cored apple, and the crust wraps itself down and around the mantle into the hollow interior. The outer and inner crusts have very similar topography:


Lemuria 34 Million Square Miles Details

Kavata was recognised as the window to the East.

Valmiki Ramayana, the epic that speaks of Sri Rama mentions Kavata, Kapatapuram in Tamil,and Pandya Kingdom. Kishkindha kandam also refers to Cheras,Cholas,Andhras as well.

Ramayana is dated at 5114 BC.

Rama’s Birth Date

This was arrived at by checking the Astronomical data.

Therefore, Tamil ,Tamil kings,Pandyas had existed at the time of Ramayana if not earlier.

So Pandya ,Tamil Kingdom dates back to 7000 years.

Yet there is another aspect to this.

While one may feel elated at the Antiquity at 7000 years, the point is Ramayana is recorded to have happened on Treta Yuga, that is about 8,64,000 years ago.Present Kali Yuga is about 5114 years old. The earlier Epoch Dwapara Yuga lasted for 8,64,000 years.

So based on this point the Ramayana is about 8,64,000 years old.


The answer lies in the fact that Time is Cyclic and Non linear.

Time non linear

Non linear Time check related posts as well.

Based on this, Ramayana and Tamil Kingdoms date back to 8,64,000 years.

Mind boggling.

Easy to dismiss as Myth.

When one studies and Understands Theory of Time , Quantum measurements of Time scale, one would accept this.

Fact that I do not understand does not mean that things are Myths.

ततो हेममयम् दिव्यम् मुक्ता मणि विभूषितम् || ४-४१-१८
युक्तम् कवाटम् पाण्ड्यानाम् गता द्रक्ष्यथ वानराः |

18b, 19a. vaanaraaH = oh, vanara-s; tataH = from there; yuktam = joined to – braced to the wall of fortress; hemamayam divyam = full with gold, beautiful one; muktaa maNi vibhuuSitam = pearls, gemstones, decorated with; paaNDyaanaam kavaaTam = of Paandya [kingdom’s,] castle-door; gataaH = having gone there; drakSyatha = you shall see; search inside that gateway.

“From there, on going to the Paandya Kingdome you shall see a fully golden castle-door bracing the compound-wall of the fortress, which is decorated with pearls and jewels, and conduct your search even in that kingdom. [4-41-18b, 19a]

Citation. http://valmikiramayan.net/utf8/kish/sarga41/kishkindha_41_frame.htm


Why Hindi, of All Times,Now

I stopped writing on Political issues in Ramanis blog for the past five years.Reason is that many of the readers felt that political issues need not find a place in a blog dedicated to Sanatana Dharma and antiquity of Hinduism.I agreed.However off and on I write my views in my other site Ramani comments and in Facebook.

Now there seems to be an attempt at pushing Hindi surreptitiously on Non Hindi speaking people,though there is a vociferous denial to the contrary.

I would like to share my views now as it is vital that people know what is at stake.

I have chosen this URL because it is read by more people, with over 16 million hits and about 6000 plus subscribers.

When people say there is an attempt to push Hindi now, Why this comment was not made after anti Hindi agitation in the sixties in Tamilnadu was successful?

There has been no talk about this till a few months back.

There was sporadic mention of this issue by DMK and AIADMK during elections,which no nobody lent credence because everyone knew it was an election gimmick and a non issue.

Most of the people in Tamilnadu do speak in favour of Hindi now, because of the fear thst these Corrupt fraudsters might come to power and ruin Tamilnadu as they had done .So better to support Hindi rather than to allow these unscrupulous scamsters.

Now we find the new language policy which provides for learning local language optional but it ensures Hindi as Hindi as Official Language.

When you make one language as Official, you make non Hindi people in Government service atleast to learn Hindi for better career opportunities.

The argument is A Nation needs a link language and only then the country will be integrated.

This is a wrong premise.

I Had written earlier , in ancient India,where there were over 56 kingdoms,the was no official link language.

There are references to in Tamil literature and Sanskrit Texts, Vedas,Ramayan, Mahabharata,Eighteen Purans and in later Sanskrit and regional literary works.

Regional literature refers to Sanatana Dharma and Ithihsas in detail, be it Tamil, Telugu,Kannda,Bangla, Oriya.

Evidence abounds that a healthy trade between the people of the south  and the north flourished since the Vedic period.

Now the question is how did these people communicate with each other in view of the fact that India has multiple languages and dialects.

There are 22 major languages in India, written in 13 different scripts, with over 720 dialects’  .https://www.justlanded.com/english/India/India-Guide/Language/Languages-in-India

‘According to Census of India of 2001, India has 122 major languages and 1599 other languages. However, figures from other sources vary, primarily due to differences in definition of the terms “language” and “dialect”. The 2001 Census recorded 30 languages which were spoken by more than a million native speakers and 122 which were spoken by more than 10,000 people’ -wiki

Sanskrit is said to be oldest language being dated about 5000 years back.

( I had written this my not be correct and Sanskrit might be much older along with Tamil, an ancient language of India. million year old Tamil  Site near Chennai ,Tamil Nadu with advanced Tamil civilization.And Tami quotes Vedas and Vedas in turn quote Tamil and Tamil Kings.Please read my articles on this)

The languages spoken in the south and even among the north indi differ.

Sanskrit is accepted in all the regions though!

Groups in India spoke  different languages.

Yet they were in intimate contact with the Sanatana Dharma People whose language was Sanskrit. https://ramanisblog-in.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/ramanisblog.in/2016/09/27/common-link-language-of-vedic-sanatana-dharma-india/amp/?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=16003125637169&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Framanisblog.in%2F2016%2F09%2F27%2Fcommon-link-language-of-vedic-sanatana-dharma-india%2F

So why now?

The answer would be there were wars between kingdoms and Bharatvarsha was not United.

Who said that?

Read Puranas and History.

The wars were there because of land ,woman and wealth and not because of Language during the period when kings ruled India.

Secondly have you stopped internecine quarrels after Hindi was introduced?

On the contrary, it caused wide spread unrest to the level of people wanting to secede!

One should remember language , Religious and cultural practices are close to one’s heart and the surest way to destroy unity of a country is by imposing a language, though by cleverly worded communiques.

One should learn from History.Those who refuse shall be doomed.

When you say India is a melting pot of various cultures, please remember Language is the root of a culture.

Another argument advanced to promote Hindi is that it opens up employment opportunities.

Partially true.

Merely learning a language can not guarantee employment.

Do we offer jobs to someone because he knows a language?One needs the skillset for a job.Language will be an additional qualification.If an individual needs it, he shall learn it. Why should Government tell me? If I need to learn a language to survive, I will I shall learn it,wheter you tell me or not.

Has the government enforced legislation to ensure my welfare for all I need? It is impossible.

So,why language of all other things?

Another argument, it is spoken by majority, which can be contested.Which Ishall.

If majority is the criterion, shall all follow Islam as the most practised Religion of the world?

This would give the moral high pedestal that you are a really a liberated forward looking country.

When people talk Hindi as the single largest spoken language of India,which Hindi are you speaking about?

Hindi spoken in UP,if so of which region of UP?

Or in Uttarakhand, Himachal, Gujrat, Rajasthan,Punjab, Haryana,Bengal,Odisha,Assam, Meghalaya, Maharastra,AP, Telengana,MP, Tamilnadu, Karnataka, Kerala…..?

So which Hindi are you speaking about?

Unfortunately those who advocate Hindi are those whose mother tongue is not Hindi.

Why have they learnt it?

Because they needed it to survive or advance their careers.

One need not advise, people will learn if they need it,as I said it earlier.

The argument that your mother tongue will not be affected because of learning Hindi is erroneous.

Same canard was put out when English was introduced in India by Macaulay. Read my article on the reason why Macaulay advocated English.

Now what has happened?

Most of us read our Religious texts, Puranas and Ithihasas in English.

We read English nursery rhymes saying Rain Rain go away in a country where we need rains.

Our children call mother Mummy.

This process has slowly sounded the death knell of Indian languages.

Do we want to repeat this by substituting Hindi for English?

Again only by learning Hindi one gets employment opportunities, how come Hindi speaking people work in non Hindi speaking ,go there to work?

If you say Hindi speakers learn local language,tell me how many speak and write in Kannada,Tamil, Telugu,Bengali…?

Why hindi speaking states do not opt to learn other languages, especially from South?

Where is the statistics?

And in the committee constituted for Study and promotion of Indian culture, why no south indian is not reprented?

And a senior Government official says he knows only Hindi and those who do not know Hindi may get out!

This, in an important Central Government meeting of Officers.

Would the government have accepted it if Kannada spaeking officer said those who do not know Kannada to get out?

They might do so only after someone protests?

Should they protest for their rights?

Why this sudden surge in promoting Hindi?

Out of personal experience let me record these facts.

I have been delivering lectures in various forums,mostly in English because the audience do not know English.

But in a Meet to be attended bt academicians,which included vice chancellors of Universities, who know English, I was asked to deliver my speech in Hindi.

I refused.

Why should I?

I have a mental block in speaking Hindi,though I can write and understand.Reason is that during my formative years in the sixties, I saw the fanaticism to impose Hindi and this has affected me to a great extent.

Now I see in various groups, I am ridiculed and Tamil called as Dumeel in Facey communities the moment I post a researched article on the Antiquity of Tamil ,Tamils,Kannada or Telugu.

People, please remember no language is less than five thousand years old, except Hindi.

Respect other languages, culture and learn them.

Don’t ridicule them and promote one surreptitiously.

There is a larger India ,Bharathavarsha beyond the Hindi belt.

I know I shall be pilloried for this article.

Truth has to told.

To me my mother comes first.

That doesn’t mean I should ask others to accept her.

I respect others’ mother at my will.

Life is not only career, there are things beyond that, if you know what I mean.

Please don’t insult the language of Sri Tulsi Das by your misadventures like what the Dravidian parties did to Tamil.

# For those people who say I am a Tamil chauvinist,please read my articles on various, languages cultures in India

And I am much closer to the people who promote Hindi than others and know their thinking process .


Christian Islam in Srividya Upasna Mantra Effort at Conversion

I started Ramanis blog in 2009 with the idea of sharing my views on subjects which I enjoy and about which have a fair idea.

As time went by , somehow, I started about writing about Sanatana Dharm and the presence of Hinduism throughout the world in ancient times. Then I started Researching and wrote articles about the validity of Hindu practices and Hindu presence throughout the world.

While this unplanned journey has been progressing, I wrote a series of articles on Devi, touching upon and detailed explanation of Sri Vidya, Shodasi,and other secret details that form a part of Sri Vidya Upasna.

I have received a lot of encouragement from readers who seem to have been benefitted.

Sri. Krishna Iyer, who contacted me over phone after seeing my articles on Sri Vidya and congratulated and Blessed me for my articles on Devi.

After a couple of general articles on Devi Upasna, I started writing on secret intricate details about Sri Vidya.

Sri Krishna Iyer called me and advised me to not to disclose secret Upasna details as it is prohibited.He is an elderly knowledgeable Sri Vidya upasaka who got initiated by a Guru into Sri Vidya.

I vividly recall telling him,

‘Sir,I am not a learned man nor a Sri Vidya Upasaka. I write as it comes and I do not know from where I got the information though I provide sources in each article.That just happens. I don’t plan the topic nor do I get the source for my articles till I start writing. So, as far as as I am concerned, I am not responsible for the output. I believe that Abhirami is doing this, not me. If divulging the secrets of Sri Vidya is wrong and would attract punishment, Be it. And at the practical level , our keeping this as Secret might even result in these treasures being lost. So may be it is Her Will I write on Srividya.’

I recalled this conversation when I found a Facebook post which stated that Srividya Mantras are distributed by one Organization, Thiruchi Eengoimalai Ladies Mandali, to people who are desirous of learning Srividya.

I am providing the image of the Mantra below.

Mischievous Misleading mantras

For the benefit of those who do not know Tamil, no 2 ,says Devi as ‘ Christava Darsana Vidya Devi and no 5 reads as ‘Islamya Darsana Vidya Devi’

In addition to this, Bauddham is also mentioned. To provide authentication, Saiva darsana is included.

This is totally a mischievous effort and this has nothing to do with Devi Upasna.

Christians have already a Christ Suprabhat,Astotra etc.They also have Churches designed as Hindu temples.

‘I see only two solutions.Gurus should encourage and guide more freely.

Those who want to learn Sri Vidya must have patience and your Guru will reach you. There is no short cut.

On my part I shall start writing again on Sri Vidya Upasna. Curious that I did not write on Devi for over two years!

இளம் நண்பர் ஒருவர் தான் சில மந்த்ர உபதேசங்கள் பெற்றுவிட்டதாகவும் ஸ்ரீவித்யா உபாசனை செய்ய திட்டமிட்டிருப்பதாகவும் கூறினார் .குரு பார் என்று விசாரித்தேன் .திருச்சி ஈங்கோய்மலை லேடீஸ் க்ளப் மண்டலி என்று சொன்னார் .மேற்படி நிறுவனம் ஒரு நவ வேதாந்த நிறுவனம் என்பதால் எனக்கு சொல்ல எதுவும் இல்லை என்றேன் .பிறகு இந்த விஷயம் குறித்து கை தேர்ந்த ஸ்ரீவித்யா உபாசகரான எனது நண்பரிடம் பேசிக் கொண்டிருந்தேன் .அன்னார் அவர்களது ஆவரண பூஜா பத்த்ததியை அனுப்பி வைத்தார் .இணைப்பு படத்தை பாருங்கள் .பாஸ்கரராயரே அறியாத நுட்பம் அல்லவா இது ? என்ன சொல்ல ?
நான் மீண்டும் மீண்டும் நண்பர்களிடம் சொல்லும் விஷயம் ஒன்று தான் . எது உங்களுக்கு வசதி என்று பார்க்காதீர்கள் .எது சரியானது என்று பாருங்கள் . பழைய மடங்களில் நாலு முறை அலையவிட்டாலும்விடுவார்களே தவிர இந்த மாதிரி அடிப்படைக்கே ஆப்பு வைக்கும் ஆபத்து இருக்காது .


Chandragupta II Chalukya Defeated Umayyad Second Caliphate

On Emperor Vikramaditya, there is a lot of controversy.

There are atleast two Vikramadityas. One belongs to the Maurya Dynasty.Chandragupta Maurya,son of Samudra Gupta ,was called Vikramaditya. His date is around 105 BC.

There is another Vikramaditya who belongs to Chalukya Dynasty and his date is around 715 AD.

There are more Vikramadityas in Chalukya Dynasty and I have traced. upto Vikramaditya VI.

The term Vikramaditya means ‘ one who is a Conqueror of Sun’ meaning like Sun whose rays pervade the earth.

So the epithet was applied to Emperors of India who were conquerors and righteous.

Hence we come across many Vikramadityas.

Now to the subject of this article,

‘Who Conquered Arabia ?

Was it the Chandragupta Maurya or Vikramaditya of Chalukya Dynasty?

This assumes importance because there is a lot of controversy over the point that Arabia was conquered by Indian Kings.

I had written in detail about the conquest of Emperor Vikramaditya,that is Chandragupta Maurya, of Arabia and his establishment of Hinduism there.

Even before this, Hinduism was established there during ancient times, the connections emanating from Tamils and Sanatan Dharma.I have written some articles on this. I shall be writing more on this angle.

The established Hinduism and it’s Practices were destroyed when Prophet Muhammad overran Mecca.

In the process, over 360 idols of Hindu pantheon was destroyed and one idol was rumoured to have been smuggled out to Somnath,India.This idol was that of Durga,which was called Mannat by Arabs.To recover this idol, Mohammad Ghazini invaded and looted Somnath eighteen times.

It was not only the Chandra Gupta Maurya who fought the Arabs and Conquered Arabia.

Vikramaditya of Chalukya Dynasty also defeated the Second Caliphate.

Yet history is mum on whether Vikramaditya ,after conquering the Caliph proceeded to Arabia.

Am checking this from Foreign neutral sources and will update

‘The Umayyad Caliphate (661–750 CE;  al-Khilāfah al-ʾUmawīyah) was the second of the four major caliphates established after the death of Muhammad.. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_Caliphate

Between 724 and 810 CE, a series of battles took place between the Arabs and the north Indian King Nagabhata I of the Gurjara-Pratihara dynasty, the south Indian King Vikramaditya II of the Chalukya dynasty, and other small Indian kingdoms. In the north, Nagabhata of the Gurjara Pratihara Dynasty defeated a major Arab expedition in Malwa. From the South, Vikramaditya II sent his general Pulakesi, who defeated the Arabs in Gujarat.Later in 776 CE, a naval expedition by the Arabs was defeated by the Saindhava naval fleet under Agguka I.

The Arab defeats led to an end of their eastward expansion, and later manifested in the overthrow of Arab rulers in Sindh itself and the establishment of indigenous Muslim Rajput dynasties (Soomras and Sammas) there.

Source. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_campaigns_in_India#CITEREFMajumdar1977


Subha Thithi Punya Thithi Difference

When one goes through information about Hinduism and it’s Practices,one would find that each and every practice is loaded with information that signifies some fact or the other which underscores the Core Belief of Sanatan Dharm.

I have written various aspects of Hindu Rites and their significance and meaning.

And about Sankalpa,which is recited by Hindus on both auspicious and inauspicious occasions.

Sankalp is the Right Determination,be it in thoughts,Words or Deeds.And Sankalpa contains portions which Geotag the performers.

It also refers to the Time frame when the Act is performed, indicating the Aeon,day or night parameters of the Aeon,Year, Movement of the Sun 🌞,Season,Month,Star ruling that day ,Movement of the 🌒,and Day.

Hinduism considers Time to be Eternal and A stream. Time is cyclic.What we perceive as yesterday, today and tomorrow is nothing but the instrument of our minds through which we perceive.

As such , essentially there is nothing in the Universe that is good or bad.

This includes Days as well,though there are good days and bad days indicated by the Almanacs, Panchanga.

However,days do not determine what happens to you , either Good or Bad.

The reason why they are called as good and bad are is determined depending on the actions performed by you in the past and in the present.As you sow,so you Reap. In Hinduism you can not escape the consequences of your actions, whoever you might be,even of you are an Avatar. God is not above Cosmic law.

The indication a day, star gives you as good or bad is but a forewarning that good or bad, from your standpoint, may befall as a result of your actions.

Yet there are two occasions which are classified differently.The are exceptions to the Rule.

Performance of Karma, in accordance with the procedures laid out in Vedas,the Scripture of Hindus ,and Smritis, that is remembered practices, on specific days- these days are called Auspicious days,Subha Thithi.

On the other hand, death,which is not in our hands and a Harbinger of Rebirth and a beginning of new birth and deaths or merging with the Reality,is not considered auspicious. However Hinduism does not place the blame on the day.

Based on these two principles, Sankalpa makes a fine distinction.

One may note in the Sankalp, when done for auspicious occasions, it reads ‘Subha Thithou’.

This term is used for Ayush homas,Upanayan, Marriage etc.

But for Grahana, Sraddha,Pitru/Mahalaya Paksha, Amavasya ,the Sankalp reads thus.

‘Punya Thithou’

There are Karmas which are beyond us and as such are classified as days that augur well for Good passage in Life.


ramanan50 is , moves to ramanisblog in

I have started blogging in WordPress platform from August 2009.

I have completed eleven years of blogging in WordPress url http://www.ramanan50.wordpress.com.

With over sixteen million hits and about 10,000 subscribers,the blog seems to be received well by readers.

I have just moved my blog to the personal url, of course of WordPress.

The new url, address of Ramani’s blog is


This is my new address.

Readers who have been searching with terms like Ramanis blog and ramanan50 may do so but the url is

Kindly make note of the url of the home page as stated above.

To reach my site easily ,please use my new url.

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Mind Brain Science Where They Meet, Online Event

It is quite rare to find online Discussions on important issues confronting Science. Many Concepts of Science need discussion.Science is often understood to be the domain of specialists and is difficult for a common man to understand. Because of this erroneous perception,many psudeo specialists gain popularity and they misinform public.

My experience has been that most scientists communicate very fluently and explain seemingly difficult concepts in very simple terms.

I have been writing this blog concentrating on Hinduism,it’s presence throughout the world, advanced Scientific Concepts in ancient in Indian texts.

Readers may find Philosophy, Advanced theories in Astronomy, Quantum, The problem of Perception in my site.

I have also devoted a lot of time to publish articles on Space ,Time,Parallel Universes, Universal Consciousness and How every thing in the Universe in connected.

Mind.. What is it?Is it simply the Brain? What is Intellect?What is consciousness?What is awareness? Are we aware because we are conscious?Or is it the other way around?

What is Space and how is it related to Mind?

These are very vital questions in Science.

These points are addressed to in the programme as detailed below.

Please go through the note and enjoy an Intellectual feast.

Programmes of this nature are conducted by Prime Point Foundation which was founded Inspired by Dr.Abdul Kalam ,Past President of India.Under the guidance and active participation of Sri. Srinivasan,this organisation is spreading True Knowledge by inviting eminent people from each field to disseminate Wisdom and True science.

One of the Speakers is my close friend Dr.A.V.Srinivasan,world renowned Neurophysician and an authority in his chosen field.He was also the President of Indian Neurology Congress.

A very well read Scientist and Doctor with a human touch who has been helping the downtrodden by providing Free consultation, Medicines and Food once a week for the past twelve years(is it more?),Dr. AVS is a rare human being in Humility and thirst for Knowledge.

Another speaker is Dr.Sivathanu Pillai,Scientist and Father of Brahmos Missile.

The topic.

Mind Brain and Science- Where do they meet?

For the information of my readers ,I will be one of the invitees to take part in the event as a listener and will be interacting with them through my questions.

Sangamam: Fusion of Great Minds” – A new initiative from Prime Point Foundation

Prime Point Foundation with the support of eMagazine PreSense and Digital Journalists Association of India (DiJAI) is starting a new initiative of Intellectual Discussion titled “Sangamam : Fusion of Great Minds” to be hosted every last Sunday of the month at 6 pm through Zoom, YouTube, Twitter and Facebook .

Two nationally renowned intellectuals will be invited to discuss a topic of relevance.

Although the discussions will be streamed live through YouTube, Twitter and Facebook, only selected interested intellectual persons will be invited to login to Zoom for direct interaction with the experts and raise questions.

The first episode of this new initiative will be held on Sunday, 30th August 2020 from 6 pm to 7.15 pm IST.

Padma Bhushan Dr A Sivathanu Pillai (Eminent Scientist of DRDO and ISRO and Father of BrahMos Missile) and Dr A V Srinivasan (Internationally renowned Neurologist) will discuss and deliberate on the topic, “Mind, Brain and Science : Where do they Meet?”.

Both have 50 years of experience in their respective domains and are well-known for their excellence and achievement.

After the discussion, there will be a Question and Answer Session for 15 to 20 minutes, from the audience who login to Zoom.
before 28th Aug 2020.

This is an exclusive Premium Programme.

This programme can be watched live through the links.




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Siva Related To Rama Krishna Siva’s Daughter Chandravanshi

As I have written in my earlier articles about the Dynasties of India,there were two primary ones, Suryavansh,Solar Dynasty and Chandravansh,Lunar Dynasty. Both dynasties had sprung from Vaiwaswatha Manu. From the Suryavansh,founded by Ikshvaku, son of Manu came the Chandravansh.

Chandravansh, Lunar Dynasty gave rise to other Dynasties like Yadava or Yadu Dynasty.

Nahusha of Lunar Dynasty was the grandson of Purururavas of Lunar Dynasty.

Nashusha married Ashokasundari, Daughter vof Shiva ,Parvati

So Nashusha was the son in-law of Siva and Parvati.

As Nahusha is from Chandravansh,Lunar Dynasty, Siva’s daughter belongs to Chandravansh.

Krishna belongs Yadava Dynasty,which is an offshoot of Lunar Dynasty.

And Lunar Dynasty Dynasty is from Solar Dynasty to which Sri Rama belongs.

Therefore, Ashokasundari, daughter of Siva and Parvati is related to Rama and Krishna by matrimonial alliance.

So are Siva and Parvati related to Rama and Krishna.

*Some may not like Siva being called a Human being. I too share the idea. However, the term Siva does not refer to a person but it means ‘auspiciousness’.Siva is described as Adi Yogi,the First Yogi, who practiced the Vaasi Yoga. Kindly read my articles Siva a Human being,Siva worship precedes Sanatana Dharm, and Vaasi Yoga

Nahusha (Sanskrit: नहुष) was a king of the Aila dynasty (Lunar dynasty) and the 3,698,256th Indra. He was the son of Āyu, the eldest son of Pururavas and Prabha, the daughter of Svarbhānu. Nahusha reigned from Pratishthana. He married Viraja, the daughter of the Pitrs. They had six or seven sons, according to different Puranas. His eldest son Yati became a muni (ascetic). He was succeeded by his second son Yayati.

 In another variation of his story, he is said to have married Ashokasundari, a regional goddess who is said to be daughter of Shiva and Parvati and is said to have given birth to Yayati and a hundred daughters of Nahusha.

Reference and citation https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahusha

Ashokasundari (Sanskrit: अशोकसुंदरी, Aśokasundarī) or Ashoka Sundari, is a goddess and the daughter of Shiva and Parvati in Hinduism. She gives blessings beauty and luxury. She is referenced to in the Padma Purana (पद्म पुराण), which narrates her story.

The birth of Ashokasundari is recorded in the .Padma Purana. In one of the variants of the tale of Nahusha, Parvati once requested Shiva to take her to the most beautiful garden in the world. As per her wishes, Shiva took her to Nandanvana, where Parvati saw a tree known as Kalpavriksha which could fulfill any wish. Since Kartikeya, the son of Parvati, had grown up and left Kailash, as a mother it caused immense grief and loneliness to Parvati. She asked for a daughter from the wish-fulfilling tree to get rid of her loneliness. Her wish was granted and Ashokasundari was born. Parvati promised that she would marry according to her destiny Nahusha of the lunar dynasty, who would be equal to Indra, the king of heaven. Once, Ashokasundari was roaming in Nandanvana with her maids, a rakshasa (demon) called Hunda saw her and fell in love with her. However, the goddess rejected the advances of the demon and informed him about her destiny to marry Nahusha. Hunda disguised himself as a widow, whose husband was killed by him, and asked Ashokasundari to accompany her to her hermitage. The goddess went with the disguised demon and reached his palace. She came to know of his treachery and cursed him to be killed by Nahusha and escaped to her parents’ abode Mount Kailash. Hunda kidnaps the infant Nahusha from his palace, however, he is rescued by a maid of Hunda and given under the sage Vashistha’s care. After a few years, Nahusha grows up and understands about his destiny to kill Hunda. Hunda abducts Ashokasundari and tells her that he had killed Nahusha. The goddess was consoled by a Kinnara couple who informed her of Nahusha’s wellbeing and prophesied that she would mother a powerful son called Yayati and a hundred beautiful daughters. Nahusha fought Hunda and defeated him after a fierce battle and rescued Ashokasundari, whom he married. Over course of time, in absence of Indra, Nahusha was temporarily made the regent of heaven’

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