The first literature of Tamil, Agathiyam was composed by Sage Agasthya who also composed thr Rig Vedic Hymns 166 to 190.
He is credited with the formal founding of the Tamil Language, which was handed over to him by Lord Shiva and Lord Subrahmanya.
Poets Conclaves were held periodically.
Map of Lemuria, based on Tamil Classics
There were three such Conclaves,the first one was presided over by Lord Shiva at Then Madurai.( South Madurai, the present Tail Nadu city of Madurai was called Vada Madurai, North Madurai, where the last conclave of the Poets were held)
First Tamil Sangam9 First Conclave) was held at Then Madurai.
After a Tsunami, KadalKol, devoured the lands, the second Tamil Sangam was held at KavataPura, which was located south of Lanka(?).
It formed a part of the sunken continent Lemuria.
Please read my posts on Lemuria.
( Is Lemuria/Kumari Kandam the same as Atlantis?, Post follows.)
The second Sangam area was also submerged by a Tsunami and the third conclave was held at the present Madurai, Tamil Nadu.
Then we have the Tholkappiyam which follows Agathiya for Tamil works.
It is the oldest surviving Literature in Tamil.
To arrive at the dates of Tamil Sangams and the Tsunami(2) I am using the Astronomical Data mentioned in Sanskrit works,Puranas, Ramayana, Mahabharata and Tamil Classics, Silappadikaram and Manimekalai.
Agasthya’s date has been proved to be 5000 BC.
Please read my post on Agasthya Canopus validates Sanatana Dharma Tamil date.
Now taking into account the period of each Tamil Sangam, I have reworked their dates from Agasthya’s date.
The first conclave of Tamil poets took place during the Tamil Sangam which lasted 4400 years, and had 549 members,
The second conclave lasted for 3700 years and had 59 members, with 3700 poets participating.
The third Sangam lasted for 1850 years.
Agastya 5000 BC
First Sangam-5000 -4400= 600 BC
Second Sangam-600-3700=3100 AD.
* For a language to develop and to attain highly complex Grammar and Classical Literature the language should have evolved at least 1000 years earlier.
** These dates agree with the dates of Ramayana.
So Tamil language should have been used at least by 4000BC
Date of the Tsunamis, Kadalkol
The First.
Around 5000 BC
The second Tsunami,
Around 5 BC.
This is based on the Astronomical event of Canopus being visible when Agasthya traveled to South, crossing the Vindhya mountain.
This Time scale applies for the present Aeon, Kaliyuga.
Considering the Nature of the sources, the best one can say about Tamil and Vedic Link is that while Tamil, which is now found to be at least 20,000
years old(the time frame ranges from 17000 to 50000 years!) , they quote the Vedas Purans and Purans , in turn quote Tamils and Tamil Kings, is that
both Tamil and Sanskrit are influenced by each other but which influenced what and when and how much is not clear.
Such being the case, some who call them Scholars,(political appointees,) mislead people into thinking that there is no link between Tamil and Vedas.
Once the internal evidence from Tamil Sangam Literature surfaced, they have started saying that Tholkappiyar was influenced by Sanskrit and Vedas!
In the same breath they say that Rig Veda is a Tamil Panchangam.
If that were so why hate The Vedas and deny its link to Tamil?
There was an article that Rig Veda is Tamil.
If the view that Rig Veda is a Tamil Almanac, why refuse to accept the Veda,s deny that there is a Link between the Vedas and Tamil and in that case
what happens to the Aryan Invasion Theory?( which of course is a Fraud)
This sort of misinformation does not stop here.
They go the extent of saying that no other earlier work in Tamil (apart form Thokaapiyam) mentions the Vedas.
This by Prof. A.Ramasamy Former Vice-Chancellor in an article in DMK Mouthpiece Risingsun weekly!
Can there be anything more nonsensical?
Keep off Politics from Tamil.
You know neither Tamil nor, Politics, but lust for power and propensity for Corruption.
An academician must not stoop to the level of one who sells……?!
Read this.
“That essentially, and more or less completely, the Rig Vedic cultural elements are of Dravidian provenance (more correctly Tamilian, the Indus
valley civilisation being apparently a proto-Tamilian one), and that it may not be too far-fetched to describe the Rig Veda as a sort of Tamil
Panchangam.”
Thus the convincing arguments of M. Sundarraj lead to the inference that Tolkappiyam precedes Rig Veda…
K. Nedunchezhiyan elaborately discusses the age of Tolkappiyam in his well-researched Tamil work titled Tolkappiyam – Tirukkural: Kaalamum Karuthum. He endorses the views of M. Sundarraj and proceeds to point out further influences of Tolkappiyam on Rig Veda. Tolkappiyam divides a year into six seasons, each having two months. Rig Veda also divides a year into six seasons which, according to
K. Nedunchezhiyan, was due to the influence of Tolkappiyam. Tolkappiyar mentions Varunan as the sea-god. Rig Vedic Aryans were not sea-farers; yet, Varunan is mentioned as a sea-god in Rig Veda. K. Nedunchezhiyan opines that this was also due to the influence of Tolkappiyam. He further states two reasons for the influence of Tolkappiyam on Rig Veda. One is that Rig Veda was compiled in Tamil Nadu; and the other is that Rig Veda followed the Tamil letter tradition. So, he concludes that the age of Tolkappiyam is prior to Rig Veda.
Kodinilai, Kandhazhi, and Valli, referred in the Verse 88 – Porul of Tolkappiyam, according to S. Ilakkuvanar, “are interpreted by some scholars as to denote Sun, Fire and Moon, the worship of which appears to be prevalent in ancient Tamil Nadu”. ..
Therefore, almost all Tamil scholars agree that Tolkappiyam belonged to the last phase of the Second Tamil Sangam held at Kapatapuram, which was engulfed by the sea around 1500 B.C. Therefore, we may safely conclude that Tolkappiyam might have been written in 1500 B.C.”
Real Research.
The second Sangam (iṭaicaṅkam)idaichangam was convened in Kapatapuram.
This Sangam lasted for 3700 years and had 59 members, with 3700 poets participating.
There were 59 Pandiya kings starting from Vendercceliyan to Mudattirumaran were decedents and rulers of that period.[1]
This city was also submerged in sea. Ramayana and Arthasastra of Kautalya corroborates the existence of a city named kavatapuram.
There is a reference to a south Indian place called kavata by sugriva in a verse which runs something like ‘having reached Kavata suitable for
Pandiya’.
The place kavata is also mentioned by Kautalya in Arthasastra.
The grammar followed was budapuranam,agattiyam,tholkaapiyam,mapuranam and isainunukkam.
The poems attributed to second academy are Kali,Kurugu,vendali and viyalamalai ahaval.
The third Sangam (kaṭaicaṅkam)kadaichangam was purportedly located in the current city of Madurai and lasted for 1850 years.
There were 49 Pandiya kings starting from Mudattirumaran (who came away from Kabadapuram to present Madurai) to Ukkirapperu valudi were
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