Tag: Tamil and Sanatana Dharma

  • Mahabharata In Sangam Literature Bilingual post

    Mahabharata In Sangam Literature Bilingual post

    It is necessary to shed light on other myths such as that Tamil and Sanatana Dharma have diametrically opposed views, the Aryans of the Northern Field opposed tamil, the Tamil veda and epic puranas were not accepted, the kings of the northern field were hostile to the kings of Tamil Nadu, the kings and people of Tamil Nadu likewise hated the people of the north. This is because these castes give rise to a false history and therefore to partition. This is how it should be done even today, with the support of the Government, sometimes with the support of the Government, that some people are still doing the work of the British called India. It is necessary to shed light on other myths such as that Tamil and Sanatana Dharma have diametrically opposed views, the Aryans of the Northern Field opposed tamil, the Tamil veda and epic puranas were not accepted, the kings of the northern field were hostile to the kings of Tamil Nadu, the kings and people of Tamil Nadu likewise hated the people of the north.

    I have pointed out these historical errors on this website with relevant evidence. Mahabharata in Sangam literature

    Mahabharata in Sangam literature

    புறநானூறு. Purananuru.

    Perunjottu Udiyan Cheralathan. This song describes the incident that Perunjoru Uthiyan , a Chera King g.who provided food for both armies during the Bharata war. Duryodhana and the Kauravas fought against the five Pandavas; They fought and died. The meaning of this song is that in the field of battle, Cheralathan has rendered great joy to the warriors as well. ‘அலங்குஉளைப் புரவி ஐவரொடு சினைஇ
    நிலம்தலைக் கொண்ட பொலம்பூந் தும்பை
    ஈரைம் பதின்மரும் பொருதுகளத் தொழியப்
    பெருஞ்சோற்று மிகுபதம் வரையாது கொடுத்தோய்

    (புறநானூறு – 2)

    (அலங்கு = அசைகின்ற; உளை = பிடரி மயிர்; புரவி = குதிரை; ஐவர் = பாண்டவர் / தருமன், வீமன், அருச்சுனன், நகுலன், சகாதேவன்; பொலம் = பொன்; தும்பை = வலிமை காரணமாகப் போர்புரியும் வீரர்கள் அணியும் பூ / தும்பைப் பூ; ஈரைம்பதின்பர் = நூற்றுவர் / துரியோதனன் முதலிய நூறு சகோதரர்கள்; ஒழிய = சாவ; பதம் = சோறு, உணவு; வரையாது = அளவில்லாது)’

    Arjuna has the reputation of having an arrow-shell full of arrows and wearing a girdle. The meaning of the lyrics of this song is that he is Bhim is his eldest brother. Moreover, the culinary excellence of Bhim is also mentioned -sirupanarupadai 238-239. ‘ சிறுபாணாற்றுப்படை. காவெரி ஊட்டிய கவர்கணைத் தூணிப்பூவிரி கச்சைப் புகழோன் தம்முன்(சிறுபாணாற்றுப்படை அடிகள், 238-239)(கா = காடு, வனம், காண்டவ வனம்; எரி = தீ; காவெரி ஊட்டல் = காண்டவ வனம் எரியூட்டப் பெறுதல்; கவர் = பல; கணை = அம்பு; தூணி = அம்பு வைக்கும் கூடு; கச்சை = ஆடை வகை)என்ற பாடல் பாண்டவருள் அருச்சுனனையும் வீமனையும் குறிப்பிடுகிறது.காட்டிற்கு எரி ஊட்டியவனும், அம்புகள் நிரம்பிய அம்புக் கூட்டை உடையவனும், கச்சையை அணிந்தவனும் ஆகிய புகழை உடையவன் அருச்சுனன். அவனுடைய தம் முன் (மூத்தவன்) வீமன் ஆவான் என்பது இப்பாடல் வரிகளின் பொருள். மேலும் வீமனின் சமையல் சிறப்பும் சிறுபாணாற்றுப்படையில் குறிப்பிடப்பட்டுள்ளது..238-239)’

    One of the verses (14) of the Pathirupathu describes Karna, the friend of the Kauravas, as Akuran. Karna is mentioned as the son of The Sun in a hymn (Mullai Kali, 28). Due to the conspiracy of Duryodhana and others, the Araku palace ( Palace of Wax),where the Pandavas were staying was set on fire. Another Kalithokai song (Palaikkali, 25) describes the story of Bhims’ s rescue of his brothers from the fire. பதிற்றுப் பத்தின் பாடல் (14) ஒன்று, கௌரவர் நண்பனாகிய கர்ணனை அக்குரன் என்று கூறியுள்ளது. கர்ணன் ஞாயிற்றின் மகனாகக் கலித்தொகைப் பாடல் ஒன்றில் குறிக்கப்பெற்றுள்ளான் (முல்லைக் கலி, 28). துரியோதனன் முதலியோர் சூழ்ச்சியால் பாண்டவர் தங்கி இருந்த அரக்கு மாளிகை தீ வைக்கப்படுகிறது. அத்தீயிலிருந்து வீமன் தன் சகோதரர்களைக் காப்பாற்றிய நிகழ்ச்சியை மற்றொரு கலித்தொகைப் பாடல் (பாலைக்கலி, 25).:

    Perumpaanaatruppadai, another Sangam Classic records that the five Pandavas had conquered the hundred Kauravas in the battle.

    ஈரைம் பதின்மரும் பொருதுகளத்து அவியப்
    பேரமர்க் கடந்த கொடிஞ்சி நெடுந்தேர்
    ஆராச் செருவின் ஐவர் போல

        (பெரும்பாணாற்றுப்படை அடிகள்,  415-417)

    (ஈரைம் பதின்மர் = கௌரவர் நூற்றுவர்; பொருது = சண்டை இட்டு; களத்து = போர்க் களத்து; அவிய = இறக்க; பேர் = பெரிய; அமர்க் கடந்த = வெற்றி பெற்ற; கொடிஞ்சி = தேரின் ஒரு பகுதி; ஆரா = தணியாத; செரு = போர்; ஐவர் = பாண்டவர்)

    These verses mean that the Pandavas achieved such a great victory that a hundred of them ( Kauravas) would die on the battlefield..

    These are only samples.

    https://ramanisblog.in/2022/11/17/%e0%ae%9a%e0%ae%99%e0%af%8d%e0%ae%95-%e0%ae%87%e0%ae%b2%e0%ae%95%e0%af%8d%e0%ae%95%e0%ae%bf%e0%ae%af%e0%ae%99%e0%af%8d%e0%ae%95%e0%ae%b3%e0%ae%bf%e0%ae%b2%e0%af%8d-%e0%ae%ae%e0%ae%95%e0%ae%be%e0%ae%aa/

    Aghora Pasupatha Homa Evil Eye Protection Mukthi

    Removal of Evil eye, Protection from forces that hinder Spiritual development. Protection from Black magic,Animals. Increases self confidence and self assurance. Clarity of thought.. Above all,Mukthi and Gnana are facilitated.

    Rig Veda Inflenced Civilizations Outside India

    Date of Rig veda in Ramanisblog According to Ramanisblog, the date of the Rig Veda is subject to considerable debate, with modern scholarly estimates generally ranging between 2000 BCE to 1000 BCE[1]. However, Ramanisblog highlights that Hindu tradition considers the Vedas to be timeless and without a specific beginning[1]. Perspectives on Rig Veda Dating Ramanisblog…

    Navavarana Pooja 1 Guru Stuthi

    Following in the Ai Generated transcript of the Navavarana Pooja Mantras . Recorded and sent to my Shishyas. This is being made public so that this secret knowledge is not lost to posterity. Those who want to be initiated may contact me through mail at ramanan50@gmail.com. Also they can contact through the comment column. If…

    Sanatana Dharma Tamil Coexisted in Indus Valley Tamil Towns

    Tamil Brahmi is found in Harappa.

    Tamil Sangam period Towns,harbor names are found in Indus Valley Civilization.

    Thee names are.

    Vanji, capital of Chera Kingdom,

    Gorkai, in Afghanistan

    a Pandya harbor, Matrai(Madurai), Urai(Uraiyur capital of Cholas), Koodal kat(kodal, name for Madurai),in Pakistan,..After the demise of Osiris, his son Horus entered into a pact with…

  • Siddha Bhogar Designed Aircraft Tamils In South America

    The world of Siddhars is unique and their thought run parallel to Sanatana Dharma, if one were to go by their works.

    Many thoughts found in their works are reflected in the Sanatana Dharma.

    This could be because of the fact that we were fed the concocted History of India, where Tamil is portrayed as anti Sanatana Dharma,inimical to North.

    Hence with this background one tends to think Tamil System of Tought is different from the Sanatana Dharma.

    But my researches for the past six years show that  this is not so.

    One finds the echo in the other.

    The problem is which preceded.

    This seems difficult to fathom as the time frames are quite vast, running into thousands of years,

    This BC, AD business has no relevance in Indian Thoughts because of its antiquity.

    The Siddhas are realized souls who transcend Time and Space and they are believed and in many cased have been sen in Physical frame.

    To cite a few, Babaji of Himalayas.Trilinga Swamigal, Kuzhandaianada Swamigal and many more from both he south and north of Vindhyas.

    While the worship of Shiva has not been  mentioned in the Vedas, the Tamils swear by it  from their fist Grammar book, Tholkaappiyam.

    Shiva is credited with the Creation of the Tamil language, with His son Lord Subrahmanya as his successor.

    And Sage Agstya was entrusted with the job of nurturing Tamil.

    Agastya is considered to be one of the early co-founders of Tamil, if the term could be used.

    Agastya composed the first Tamil Grammar work called Agathiyam.

    Agastya is a Siddha.

    Bhogar, is the disciple of Agastya.

    Bhogar installed the Idol of Lord Subrahmanya at Palani,Tamil Nadu with Nine poisonous herbs and this Idol is being worshiped even now and it is expected to last this Kaliyga, the prest aeon.

    Bhogar was also a Yogin as the other other Siddhars..

    He indulged in Astral Traveling, can use Transmigration at Will.

    He is recorded to have been to Chile in South America.

    This has been cited in their legends.(?)

    Bhogar was also reported to have designed Aircraft for Traveling and used it.

    I had written articles on the connection between the Tamil and the Aztecs,Mayas .

    Kindly refer these Posts to have more information.

    Bhogar a Senior Siddha surveying far away places.jpg Bhogar, traversing the sky, observes faraway places like Arabia, Rome, and China.Bhogar a Senior Siddha surveying far away places.

    In one of his songs Bhoganāthar claims to have flown to China at one point in a sort of airplane which he built: he held discussions with Chinese Siddhas before returning to India (Kailasapathy, 1969, p. 197-211). His visit to South America has been confirmed by accounts left by the Muycas of Chile:

    “Bocha, who gave laws to Muycas, was a white, bearded man, wearing long robes, who regulated the calendar, established festivals, and vanished in time like others (other remarkable teachers who had come across the Pacific according to numerous legends of Incas, Aztecs and Mayans).” (Lal 1965, p. 20)Citaitons.Material in this chapter is based upon the life story of the Siddha Bhoganāthar narrated by Yogi S.A.A. Ramaiah in his introduction to the third volume of the collected works of Bhoganathar, Bogar Kandam Yogam: Babaji’s Yoga of Boganathar, and notes in lectures.

    Authorities quoted by Bancroft in the Pacific States, Vol. V., 23-24.

    See ‘The Wandering Taoist’, by Deng Ming-Dao. 1983 for a contemporary account of Taoist immortals and their practices in China, and ‘The Tao and Chinese Culture’ by Da Liu. 1979 for a description of the highest goal of Taoist practices, ‘golden” immortality.

    It is here that Macchamuni (Macchendranātha), one of his disciples, later composed the first great treatise on the scientific art of Kriya Tantra Yoga, from which arose the Kalpia and Kapalika tantric traditions.

    Babaji and the 18 Siddha Kriya Yoga Tradition, by M. Govindan (Kriya Yoga Publications, 1991), pp. 113-118.

    More on Bhogar and Siddhars to follow.

     

    Citations.

    http://palani.org/bhogar-biography.htm

    From Google scholar.

    http://www.energyenhancement.org/Tamil-Siddar-BHOGAR-Kundalini-Yoga-and-Spiritual-Alchemy.htm

    Related.

    The Incas celebrated the Makara Sanakrathi.

    The Ayar-Incas that primitive Aryan words and people came to America especially from Indo-Arya by the island chains ofPolynesia. The very name of the boat in Mexico is a South Indian (Tamil) word: Catamaran.”-

    The Ayar-Incas (2 Volume Set): 1. Monuments, Culture, and American Relationship; 2. Asiatic Origins-Miles Poindexter,Former US Ambassador-

    The Incas celebrated the Makara Sankaranti in the South Indian Style.

    https://ramanisblog.in/2015/02/01/incas-of-peru-ancestors-tamils-celebrate-makara-sankaranti/

     

    ‘Most of you in India are familiar with the Charak Puja ceremonial observed in Bengal and several States in South India. This Hindu Ceremonial also observed in Mexicohistorian call it the mexicon and peru. The Spanish Valador ritual. A relief of Bayon central temple of Angkor Thom inCambodia represents a rite similar to the Mexico Valador. The use of parasol (Chhatra) is an age-old sign of royalty and rank in India, Burma, China and Japan. The Maya Astec and the Incas also used it as a sign of royalty. Frescoes of Chak Multum in Yucatan show two types of parasols both of which correspond to types still in use in South-East Asia.’

    Incas celebrated it as “Inti Raymi”

    https://ramanisblog.in/2015/06/09/indra-in-incas-peru-viracocha-ramayana-upanishad/

  • Poompuhar Find Sets Tamil,Hinduism By Atleast 20000 Years

    Recently I wrote an article stating that 11000 Years Old Tamil Port Poompuhar confirms Manu Migration.

    Reaction to this post has been amazing and I have been asked to elaborate further as this is a very serious issue concerning the Dates of Tamil and Sanatana Dharma.

    Poompuhar remains underwater.jpg.
    Poompuhar remains underwater.

    I am normally regarded as being Parochial to Hinduism Sanatana Dharma and called as one who is against Tamil.

    I am neither,I simply produce evidence as they are.

    The Tamil sites who have been calling me names have now been sending mails to me requesting to publish more articles on the antiquity of Tamil!

    This after my recent articles on Tamil and Sanskrit.

    Well I shall continue to write facts as they are available, relying more on Indian Literature ,Epigraphy, Linguistics rather than some big fancy Names of self-styled Indologists.

    Now on the find of the material being dated 11000 Years  sets the Tamil History and the Sanatana Dharma back at least by 20,000 years.https://youtu.be/Vi6IJbZe2YE

    But the Tamil Sangams are dated at

    “that the first two of which were held in cities since “taken by the sea”, and the third of which was held during the 5th century BC in the present-day city of Madurai.'(wiki).

    Silappadikaram  has been dated to likely belong to the beginning of Common era.

    The incidence of Kovalan Madhavi and Kannagi took place in the same period as the poet who wrote the Tamil Epic was the brother of the Chera King Cheran Senguttuvan.

    However the recent finding placed these dates to 11000 years back!

    So it is logical to arrive at the conclusion that the Silappadikaram Town was in existence around 11000 CE and for a rich language as Tamil to develop, from a dialect, colloquial form and then to literary ,it requires  minimum  5000 Years.

    And Tamil quotes Ithihasas ,Ramayana and Mahabharata and the Vedas.

    That should place these Ithihasas earlier .

    Hence based on this evidence available now, Tamil should be at least 16000 years old and the Sanskrit Puranas earlier.

    Please read my Post Million Year Old Tamil quotes Vedas and they quote Tamil.

    But we are assigning Tamil Sangam at 500 BC and Rig veda at 5000 BC!

    Sundaland Image.bmp
    Sundaland.

    The date of Poompuhar artifact was arrived at and verified by  Glenn Milne Sea Level changes.

    The place is called Poompuhar. It lies on southeast India’s Coromandel coast facing the Bay of Bengal between modern Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka. Its immediate offshore area has been the subject of marine archaeological investigations by India’s National Institute of Oceanography since the 1980’s — and numerous non-controversial finds of man-made structures dated between the third century AD and the third century BC have been made in the “inter-tidal zone” close to shore at depths down to 6 feet (approximately 2 metres).

    These finds of structures in shallow water (some so shallow that they are exposed at low tide) have been quite widely written-up in the archaeological literature. But for some reason other discoveries that the NIO has made in deeper water off Poompuhar have attracted no attention at all. Most notably these other discoveries include a second completely separate group of structures fully three miles from the Poompuhar shore in water that is more than 70 feet (23 metres) deep. The lack of interest is surprising because to anyone with even minimal knowledge of post-glacial sea-level rise their depth of submergence is – or should be – highly anomalous. Indeed according to Glenn Milne’s sea-level data the land on which these structures were built last stood above water at the end of the Ice Age more than 11,000 years ago.

    Is it a coincidence that there are ancient Tamil flood myths that speak of a great kingdom that once existed in this area called Kumari Kandam that was swallowed up by the sea? Amazingly the myths put a date of 11,600 years ago on these events — the same timeframe given by Plato for the end of Atlantis in another ocean.

    Like the cities in the Gulf of Cambay the underwater structures three miles offshore of Poompuhar were first identified by an instrument called sidescan sonar that profiles the seabed. One structure in particular was singled out for investigation and was explored by divers from India’s National Institute of Oceanography in 1991 and 1993. Although they were not at that time aware of the implications of its depth of submergence — i.e. that it is at least 11,500 years old — the 1991 study confirms that it is man-made and describes it as:

    a horse-shoe-shaped object, its height being one to two metres. A few stone blocks were found in the one-metre wide arm. The distance between the two arms in 20 metres. Whether the object is a shrine or some other man-made structure now at 23 metres [70 feet] depth remains to be examined in the next field season.

    The 1993 study refines the measurements:

    The structure of U-shape was located at a water depth of 23 metres which is about 5 kilometres off shore. The total peripheral length of the object is 85 metres while the distance between the two arms is 13 metres and the maximum height is 2 metres Divers observed growth of thick marine organism on the structure, but in some sections a few courses of masonry were noted.

    Graham Hancock is an advocate of this theory and I subscribe to this as this has more science to back it up.

    The Glenn Milne Theory of Sea Level Change places a landmass Sundaland.

    Sundaland was a cluster of islands in South consisted of Malay peninsula, Java, Sumatra, Borneo and other surrounding areas.

    The recent developments in sea level research done by Glenn Milne and Graham Hancock have shown that these islands were not islands but were connected as a huge land mass some 22,000 years ago.

    ‘The sea level was lower than now by approximately 150 meters thereby offering a good expanse of land for mankind to thrive. This region is a centre of attraction for researchers because this is the “closest area” for early man from east Africa who moved out eastward around one lakh years ago…

    Exposed Land Mass of Sundaland.image.png
    Exposed Land Mass of Sundaland

    The light shades around the continents show the extent of exposed landmass at an earlier time when sea level was low due to Ice Age. The red circle shows the ‘Sundaland’ which now looks fractured into islands. The migration of man as revealed in genetic studies show that mankind stayed on for thousands of years  somewhere in the Indian Ocean. Currently Indian Ocean, south off India shows no sign of landmass. But with the discovery of Sundaland, there is increased interest in finding out whether it offered habitation for early man.

    How this Landmass was destroyed,By A Volcano.

    A New study provides “incontrovertible evidence” that the volcanic super-eruption of Toba on the island of Sumatra about 73,000 years ago deforested much of central India, some 3,000 miles from the epicenter, researchers report.a The volcano ejected an estimated 800 cubic kilometers of ash into the atmosphere, leaving a crater (now the world’s largest volcanic lake) that is 100 kilometers long and 35 kilometers wide. Ash from the event has been found in India, the Indian Ocean, the Bay of Bengal and the South China Sea.

    Citations.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091123142739.htm

    http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/2011/11/sundaland-was-location-of-tripura.html

    http://www.grahamhancock.com/archive/underworld/underworld1.php?p=4