Tag: Poompuhar archeology

  • Poompuhar Find Sets Tamil,Hinduism By Atleast 20000 Years

    Recently I wrote an article stating that 11000 Years Old Tamil Port Poompuhar confirms Manu Migration.

    Reaction to this post has been amazing and I have been asked to elaborate further as this is a very serious issue concerning the Dates of Tamil and Sanatana Dharma.

    Poompuhar remains underwater.jpg.
    Poompuhar remains underwater.

    I am normally regarded as being Parochial to Hinduism Sanatana Dharma and called as one who is against Tamil.

    I am neither,I simply produce evidence as they are.

    The Tamil sites who have been calling me names have now been sending mails to me requesting to publish more articles on the antiquity of Tamil!

    This after my recent articles on Tamil and Sanskrit.

    Well I shall continue to write facts as they are available, relying more on Indian Literature ,Epigraphy, Linguistics rather than some big fancy Names of self-styled Indologists.

    Now on the find of the material being dated 11000 Years  sets the Tamil History and the Sanatana Dharma back at least by 20,000 years.https://youtu.be/Vi6IJbZe2YE

    But the Tamil Sangams are dated at

    “that the first two of which were held in cities since “taken by the sea”, and the third of which was held during the 5th century BC in the present-day city of Madurai.'(wiki).

    Silappadikaram  has been dated to likely belong to the beginning of Common era.

    The incidence of Kovalan Madhavi and Kannagi took place in the same period as the poet who wrote the Tamil Epic was the brother of the Chera King Cheran Senguttuvan.

    However the recent finding placed these dates to 11000 years back!

    So it is logical to arrive at the conclusion that the Silappadikaram Town was in existence around 11000 CE and for a rich language as Tamil to develop, from a dialect, colloquial form and then to literary ,it requires  minimum  5000 Years.

    And Tamil quotes Ithihasas ,Ramayana and Mahabharata and the Vedas.

    That should place these Ithihasas earlier .

    Hence based on this evidence available now, Tamil should be at least 16000 years old and the Sanskrit Puranas earlier.

    Please read my Post Million Year Old Tamil quotes Vedas and they quote Tamil.

    But we are assigning Tamil Sangam at 500 BC and Rig veda at 5000 BC!

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    Sundaland.

    The date of Poompuhar artifact was arrived at and verified by  Glenn Milne Sea Level changes.

    The place is called Poompuhar. It lies on southeast India’s Coromandel coast facing the Bay of Bengal between modern Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka. Its immediate offshore area has been the subject of marine archaeological investigations by India’s National Institute of Oceanography since the 1980’s — and numerous non-controversial finds of man-made structures dated between the third century AD and the third century BC have been made in the “inter-tidal zone” close to shore at depths down to 6 feet (approximately 2 metres).

    These finds of structures in shallow water (some so shallow that they are exposed at low tide) have been quite widely written-up in the archaeological literature. But for some reason other discoveries that the NIO has made in deeper water off Poompuhar have attracted no attention at all. Most notably these other discoveries include a second completely separate group of structures fully three miles from the Poompuhar shore in water that is more than 70 feet (23 metres) deep. The lack of interest is surprising because to anyone with even minimal knowledge of post-glacial sea-level rise their depth of submergence is – or should be – highly anomalous. Indeed according to Glenn Milne’s sea-level data the land on which these structures were built last stood above water at the end of the Ice Age more than 11,000 years ago.

    Is it a coincidence that there are ancient Tamil flood myths that speak of a great kingdom that once existed in this area called Kumari Kandam that was swallowed up by the sea? Amazingly the myths put a date of 11,600 years ago on these events — the same timeframe given by Plato for the end of Atlantis in another ocean.

    Like the cities in the Gulf of Cambay the underwater structures three miles offshore of Poompuhar were first identified by an instrument called sidescan sonar that profiles the seabed. One structure in particular was singled out for investigation and was explored by divers from India’s National Institute of Oceanography in 1991 and 1993. Although they were not at that time aware of the implications of its depth of submergence — i.e. that it is at least 11,500 years old — the 1991 study confirms that it is man-made and describes it as:

    a horse-shoe-shaped object, its height being one to two metres. A few stone blocks were found in the one-metre wide arm. The distance between the two arms in 20 metres. Whether the object is a shrine or some other man-made structure now at 23 metres [70 feet] depth remains to be examined in the next field season.

    The 1993 study refines the measurements:

    The structure of U-shape was located at a water depth of 23 metres which is about 5 kilometres off shore. The total peripheral length of the object is 85 metres while the distance between the two arms is 13 metres and the maximum height is 2 metres Divers observed growth of thick marine organism on the structure, but in some sections a few courses of masonry were noted.

    Graham Hancock is an advocate of this theory and I subscribe to this as this has more science to back it up.

    The Glenn Milne Theory of Sea Level Change places a landmass Sundaland.

    Sundaland was a cluster of islands in South consisted of Malay peninsula, Java, Sumatra, Borneo and other surrounding areas.

    The recent developments in sea level research done by Glenn Milne and Graham Hancock have shown that these islands were not islands but were connected as a huge land mass some 22,000 years ago.

    ‘The sea level was lower than now by approximately 150 meters thereby offering a good expanse of land for mankind to thrive. This region is a centre of attraction for researchers because this is the “closest area” for early man from east Africa who moved out eastward around one lakh years ago…

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    Exposed Land Mass of Sundaland

    The light shades around the continents show the extent of exposed landmass at an earlier time when sea level was low due to Ice Age. The red circle shows the ‘Sundaland’ which now looks fractured into islands. The migration of man as revealed in genetic studies show that mankind stayed on for thousands of years  somewhere in the Indian Ocean. Currently Indian Ocean, south off India shows no sign of landmass. But with the discovery of Sundaland, there is increased interest in finding out whether it offered habitation for early man.

    How this Landmass was destroyed,By A Volcano.

    A New study provides “incontrovertible evidence” that the volcanic super-eruption of Toba on the island of Sumatra about 73,000 years ago deforested much of central India, some 3,000 miles from the epicenter, researchers report.a The volcano ejected an estimated 800 cubic kilometers of ash into the atmosphere, leaving a crater (now the world’s largest volcanic lake) that is 100 kilometers long and 35 kilometers wide. Ash from the event has been found in India, the Indian Ocean, the Bay of Bengal and the South China Sea.

    Citations.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091123142739.htm

    http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/2011/11/sundaland-was-location-of-tripura.html

    http://www.grahamhancock.com/archive/underworld/underworld1.php?p=4

  • 11000 Years Old Tamil Port Poompuhar Confirms Manu Migration

    The more one digs deeper into  Indian /Tamil History, I no longer consider them as Legends or Mythologies as there is enought evidence on the ground in India and abroad to warrant this conclusion, one is amazed as to how Sanatana Dharma and Tamil were intertwined and how accurate are the Hindu Puranas.

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    Wharf At Poompuhar, Tamil Nadu

    An old port  Poompuhar, mentioned in early Tamil Classics, especially in detail in the Silappadikaram, has been found and it reveals a Man made Port of 11000 Years!

    Poompuhar was a bustling port of the Chera Kings of then Tamil Nadu and was a centre of Tamil Culture where A festival of Indra was celebrated annually,

    It was called Indra Vizha, The Festival of Indra. more as Thanks giving to the God of Thunder Indra for granting Rains.

    This Poompuhar was als a Ship Building Yard where the Sultans of Constantinople had their Ships built, observes Ptolemy

    Please read my Post Naval Department of Tamils Ancient India.

    Now the Ikshvaku Dysaty, of which Lord Rama is a descendant, lists the Kings of the Dynasty.

    I am providing a Link to my article at the end of this Post.

    Sixty kings preceded Lord Rama.

    In Hindu Puranas the Full Life of an individual is 120 years(I am not, now taking into account the legend of Treta Yuga where Human beings lived longer).

    The father of Ikshvaku, Satyavrata Manu, also called Vaivasthava Manu, migrated from the South to Aydhya and his son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku Dynasty.

    Manu left because of a Tsunami.

    The city of Poompuhar which is dated now as being 11000 years old was deluged by a Tsunami.

    This is echoed in the great flood that devoured the Atlantis/

    Please read my post on Gondwana.

    This proves that the expression of Great Ocean Surge, Kadal Kol, was not a figment of Tamil Poets and Sanskrit’s imagination as the Poompuhar evidence and the mention of Satyavrata Manu having migrated to Ayodhya.

    A difference of about 2200 years for such a huge time scale may be attributed to my wrong calculation or the dating of Poompuhar may have tolerance in dates..

    Lord Rama’s Lineage.Ikshvaku Dynasty.

    • Ikshwaku – Manu’s successor was the founder of the Ikshvaku dynasty. Ikshwakufathered 101 children of whom most illustrious were Vikukshi, Nimi and Danda. Ikshvaku’s 50 children were protector of northern countries while 48 were prince of southern countries. Nimi was ruler of Mithila region and started the kingdom of Janaka. After death of Ikshwaku, his son Sasada succeeded him. According to Jain sources, Ikshvaku was Rishab Deva.
    • Sasada – Named Vikuksi at birth, he was called Sasada after eating Hare-meat meant for a rite himself (Sasada means Hare-eater). Though abandoned by Ikshvaku, he became the successor due to Vasistha. Vikuksi had 500 sons who guarded northern regions led by Sakuni and 58 sons who guarded southern regions led by Visati. The Brahma Purana says Sasada’s son was Kakutstha and Kakutstha’s son was Anenas. However, the Vishnu Purana says Sasada’s son was Puranjaya (Paranjaya in Shrimad Bhagavatham) and Puranjaya’s son was Anenas. From Puranjaya / Kakutstha and Anenas the lineage is as follows:
    • Puranjaya (Vishnu Purana and Shrimad Bhagavatham / Kakutstha (Brahma Purana)
    • Anenas
    • Prithu
    • Viswagaswa, rendered Virasva and Vistarasva by Brahmapurana.
    • Ardra
    • Yuvanaswa
    • Srasvata – He founded the city of Srasvati.
    • Vrihadaswa (also spelled Brihad-Ashwa).
    • Kuvalayswa – He defeated demon Asura Dhundu. His sons (21000 in number) perished except three – Dridhaswa, Chadraswa and Kapliswa. Haryyaswa, the eldest son of these three succeeded to the throne.
    • Haryyaswa
    • Nikumbha
    • Sanhatswa – rendered Samhatasva in Brahma Purana. He had 2 sons, Akrasava and Krisasva, and a daughter Haimavati whose son was Prasenajit. The Brahma Purana proceeds with the genealogy tables from Prasenajit with the same names as in Vishnu Purana and Shrimad Bhagavatam below. However, since Prasenajit is the son of Haimavati in Brahma Purana, this would make the line to have descended from Haimavati (a female) as per Brahma Purana.
    • Krisaswa – The Vishnu Purana and Shrimad Bhagavatam says Prasenajit was Krisasva’s son.
    • Prasenajit married Gauri. As per Brahmapurana, he had 2 sons Yuvanaswa and Mandhatri. However, as per SB and Vishnu Purana, Mandhatri was Yuvanaswa’s son.
    • Yuvanaswa (he was second Yuvanaswa)- According to Vishnu Puarana, Yuvanaswa had no children, so the sages, took pity on Yuvanaswa and instituted a Yagya to help him procure progeny. One night, Yuvanaswa feeling thirsty and not wanting to disturb anybody, went in search of water. In darkness, he accidentally drank the consecrated water. In the morning the sages found the vessel containing the consecrated water to be empty and pronounced that a mighty son will be born to the queen who has drunk this water. Then Yuvanaswa told the sages about he having drunk the water. Accordingly, Yuvanaswa conceived a child in his belly. Upon birth of a male child, he was worried as to who would nurse the child. Lord Indra appeared and said – Mam Dhyasti i.e. I would be his nurse, and hence the boy was named Mandhatri.
    • Mandhatri – He married Chaitarathi / Bindumati, daughter of Sasabindu. He is supposed to be a mighty monarch who conquered seven continent and bought them under his dominion. A verse in Vishnu Purna is translated as “From the rising to the going down of the sun, all that is irradiated by his light, is the laand of Mandhatri* As per Brahmapurana he had 2 sons, Purukutsa and Mucukunda; and Trasdasya was the son of Purukutsa. From Purukuta the line follows in the same manner as SB and Vishnu Purana. However, SB and Vishnu Purana provide additional names between Mandhatri and Purukutsa as below:
    • Ambrisha (son of Yuvanaswa)
    • Yuvanaswa (third)
    • Purukutsa and Harita
    • Trasadasya (Son of Purukutsa and Narmada). According to Brahmapurana Narmada was Trasadasyu’s wife. One Kurusravana is described as the son of Trasadasyu in Rigveda 10.33 and hence Keith supposes that the Kurus existed in the Rg-Veda.[6] It remains a controversy as to whether Vedic literature knows of an enmity between the Kurus and the Pancalas, which we know of in the Mahabharata. Trasadasyu’s son was Sambuta.
    • Sambhuta
    • Anaranya – He was supposedly slain by Ravana.
    • Prishadaswa
    • Haryyaswa
    • Sumanas
    • Tridhanwan. In Brahmapurana, Tridhanwan is posited as the son of Sambuta, and the names in between Sambhuta and Tridhanwan as provided by SB and Vishnupurana are absent.
    • Trayyaruna
    • Satyavarta (also known as Trishanku). He was banished by his father Trayaruna and went to live with Svapakas. He killed Vasistha‘s cow. Brahmpurana says Vishwamitra made him ascend to heaven with his physical body.
    • Harishchandra. Also called Traishankava as the son of Trisanku.
    • Rohitaswa, also called Rohita.
    • Harita (Second Harita)
    • Chunchu, also spelled Chanchu, Cancu, Chamchu, Campa. Manusmrithi mentions Chenchu who have been explored for their links with the tribe Andhras
    • Vijaya
    • Ruruka
    • Vrika
    • Bahu (also known as Bathuka) – His kingdom was overrun by neighbouring tribe of Haihayas and Talajangha. He was expelled to the jungle with his queens where Sage Aurva gave them shelter. As per Brahmapurana, Bahu was not very righteous. One of his queens, Yadavi, gave birth to Sagara together with poison (gara).
    • Sagara – he had 6001 sons. Sagara recaptured his father’s kingdom and defeated the tribes of Haiheyas, Talajhanghas, Sakas, Pahlavas and Paradas. He shaved off the hair of Sakas halfway, that of Yavanas and Kambhojas totally, the Paradas had to wear their hair loose, and the Pahlavas had to wear moustaches. All of the following had to give up recitation; and were deprieved of their Kshatriya-hood and their dharma: Sakas, Kambhojas, Yavanas, Paradas, Konisarpas (Kalasarpas), Mahishakas, Cholas and Keralas. Sagara performed Ashvamedha and the horse disappeared near the coast of the South-eastern ocean. There they found Sage Kapila resting. According to the Vishnu Purana, Sagara’s sons killed Kapila. According to the Brahma Purana, Kapila is an avatara of Vishnu and burnt up Sagara’s sons and spared 4 of them—Barhiketu, Suketu, Dharmaratha, Panchananda. Then Kapila blessed Sagara, who went on to perform 100 Asvamedhas and begot 60,000 sons. One of the sons, named Panchajana entered the brilliance of Narayana and became King. His son Amsumat succeeded him.
    • Ansumat – the grandson of Sagara and son of Asmanjas / Panchajana.
    • Dilīpa.
    • Bhagiratha – Bhagiratha bought the river Ganges to earth from Heaven.
    • Sruta
    • Nabhaga
    • Ambarisha
    • Sindhudwipa
    • Ayutaswa
    • Rituparna, a friend of Nala.
    • Sarvakama
    • Sudasa, supposedly a friend of Indra.
    • Saudasa (also known as Mitrasaha, Kalmshapada and Kamlasapada Saudasa).

    After Saudasa, the Brahmapurana gives the descent until Raghu as follows:

    • Saudasa
    • Sarvakarman
    • Anaranya
    • Nighna
    • Anamitra and Raghu
    • Dulidaha, the son of Anamitra
    • Dilipa
    • Raghu

    After Saudasa, the Vishnupurana gives the descent until Raghu as follows:

    • Saudasa
    • Asmaka
    • Mulaka –  (also derogatorily called Narikavacha (one who uses ladies for armour) since he was surrounded and concealed by women when his enemies came searching for him). [In present times Mulaka is (1) name of a jangam tribe in Andhra Pradesh that claims to be Kapus / Balijas; and (2) alternate name used by Mulakanadu Brahmins ]
    • Dasratha (he was not the father of Rama)
    • Viswasaha
    • Khatwanga or Dileepa
    • Dirghabahu
    • Raghu

    After Raghu, all the puranas give the descent as follows:

    • Aja, son of Raghu.
    • Dasaratha – He was father of Rama.
    • Rama