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  • First Pandya Kulasekara Indra First Capital Korki Before Madurai

    First Pandya Kulasekara Indra First Capital Korki Before Madurai

    Tracing the genealogy of Tamil Kings of ancient times, Chera,Chola and Pandya is very difficult. I have, based on the dates of Ramayana, Mahabharata and references to these Kings, traced Chola lineage. Now, with additional inputs, I am in a position to postulate that the first Pandya King was Indra himself.This may sound weird. Unfortunately, evidences compel one to theorize thus.( In my earlier article I mentioned Vadivalambanira Pandya as the first Pandya King.That was based on available material at that point of time. Now, this article is updated with fresh information I have come by. Contributions welcome.)
    Meenakshi Amman.

    Based on references in Ramayana to these Kings, I arrived at four Pandyas.

    First King was Kulasekara Pandya, his son Malayathdwaja Pandya.Malayathwaja Pandya’s daughter was Meenakshi and she ruled Madurai and Her Consort was Sokkanatha also called Sundara.Veerapandyan ruled after Sundara/ Meenakshi, to be followed by Ugrapperuvazhuthi.He was followed by Abhisheka Pandya.

    The capital Korki was destroyed by a Tsunami during the marriage of Kulasekara Pandya. So his new capital was named as Kalyanapura.This was the capital of Pandyas before Madurai/Manalur.

    Please check out information provided below with links. This would give you the whole picture that the first Pandya King was Kulasekara ( Indra) and the dates are based on Ramayana and Mahabharata Mentions.

    Evidence of Korki is found in Thiruvaarur Devis name Korki.

    Detailed article on Korki and Thiruvaarur follows.

    இந்திரனே குலசேகர பாண்டியனாக அதாவது மனிதகுலத்தைச் சேர்ந்த பாண்டித்யமுள்ள அரசனாக ஆகி மதுரைக்குள் மணலூர் எனும் இடத்தில் அரண்மனை கண்டு, கடம்பவன «க்ஷத்ரமாகிய மாமதுரையை ஆளத் தொடங்கினான். இவன் வம்சா வழியில் அடுத்து வந்தவன் மலயத்துவச பாண்டியன். அடுத்தவன், சுந்தரனார். அதற்கும் அடுத்தவன், வீரபாண்டியன். ஐந்தாவதாய் வந்தவன் உக்கிரப் பெருவழுதி. ஆறாவதாய் வந்தவன்தான் அபிஷேக பாண்டியன்…..அதன்படி முதல் பாண்டியனான குலசேகர பாண்டியன் 1400 வருஷம் கடம்பவனத்து ராஜாவாக திகழ்ந்திருக்கிறான் அடுத்து மலையத்துவசன்.. இவன் வயிற்றுப் பெண்தான் நமக்கெல்லாம் தாயான மீனாட்சி. இறைவன், அன்னையைக் கைப்பிடிக்க வந்த சமயம் நிகழ்த்திய திருவிளையாடல்கள் இவன் காலத்தில்தான் நிகழ்ந்தன. அடுத்து சுந்தரபாண்டியன். இவன் காலத்தில்தான் வெள்ளியம்பலக் கூத்து நிகழ்ந்தது. குண்டோதரனுக்கு சோறு போட்டதெல்லாமும் கூட இவன் காலத்திலேதான் என்கிறது அபிதான சிந்தாமணி. ஆதாரத்திற்கு திருவிளையாடல் புராணத்தை கையில் எடுத்துக் கொள்கிறது.

    வாராஹி சித்தர்

    கல்யாணபுரம் என்பது தொன்பியல் பாண்டியர்கள் தலைநகரம் என்று கூறப்படும் ஒரு நகரமாகும். இதை குலசேகர பாண்டியன் என்னும் மன்னன் முதலில் தலைநகரமாக கொண்டு ஆண்டவன். இவனது முன்னோனான சம்பன பாண்டியன் கொற்கி என்னும் தலைநகரை மையமாக வைத்து ஆண்டபோது தன் மகனான குலசேகர பாண்டியன் திருமன நிகழ்வுகள் அன்று வெள்ளப்பெருக்கால் கொற்கி அழிந்து விடுகிறது. அந்த திருமண நிகழ்வுகளின் நினைவாக அடுத்த தலைநகருக்கு கல்யணபுரம் என்று பெயர் வைத்தாக புராணங்கள் கூறுகின்றன

    https://ta.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%A3%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D

    https://books.google.co.in/books?id=-QpN1BDaS4cC&pg=RA2-PA50&dq=tenth+anantaguna+pandya+reign+rama&hl=en&sa=X&ei=dMkJT5-jEZDNrQfxhMnyDw&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=kula&f=false

    Now I have come across references in the Mahabharata that Lord Krishna broke open the gates of a Pandyan King Kulasekhara and killed him in a battle.( VII.11.398) and VIII.23.1016)

    ‘ Kulashekharan is said to be as strong as a bull. He is apparently killed by Lord Krishna, but although his son wants to avenge his father’s death, he is dissuaded from doing so by his well wishers.

    Krishna also defeated Chola King.(VII.11.321)

    Krishna defeated Pandya Chozha

    References in Ramayana of Tamil Kings.

    Now the Tamil Kingdoms of Chera, Chola and Pandyas are described by Sugreeva to Hanuman and Angadason of Vaali

    First Pandya King During Ramayana Expert Horse rider Vadimbalambaninra Pandyan 5100 BC ?

    According to renowned archaeologist C Santhalingam, a Tamil inscription found in a Siva temple at Senthalai in Thanjavur district revealed that a Pallava Chieftain Perumpiduku Muthuraaya, destroyed Manalur, the present Keezhadi site during 750 CE, which is located 15 kilometers Southwest of Madurai.

    The Pallava Chieftain Perumpiduku Muthuraaya ruled a portion of the present Thanjavur district from Senthalai between 750 CE and 840 CE. The Chola King Vijayalaya defeated him in 846 CE and laid the foundation for Chola kingdom in Tamil Nadu. It is a hypothetically arrived based on the inscription because the excavated site at Keezhadi is at the mouth of Manalur tank. As it was an industrial centre from Sangam age, the chieftain might have ravaged the place with the intention to weaken the Pandya kingdom by destroying its industrial potential,” said Santhalingam to DC on the sidelines of a conference -`Archaeology: footprints of Tamil History’, organised by Karuthu Pattarai here recently. https://www-deccanchronicle-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.deccanchronicle.com/amp/nation/current-affairs/030617/keezhadi-finds-may-point-to-ravaged-city-of-manalur-santhalingam.html?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16413616474031&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.deccanchronicle.com%2Fnation%2Fcurrent-affairs%2F030617%2Fkeezhadi-finds-may-point-to-ravaged-city-of-manalur-santhalingam.html

    Additional sources. Kandha Purana, Thiruvilayadal purana, Sthala Purana of Madurai, Thiruvaarur.

  • First Pandya King During Ramayana Expert Horse rider Vadimbalambaninra Pandyan 5100 BC ?

    First Pandya King During Ramayana Expert Horse rider Vadimbalambaninra Pandyan 5100 BC ?

    We have been tracing the Genealogy of the ancient Tamil Kings, and trying to date them based on the date of Kurukshetra War of Mahabharata.Based on this, we have dated Karikal Chozhan, Perunchotru Udhiyan Neduncheralaathan, the Chera King and the date of Sarangadwaja Pandya, father of Madurai Meenakshi, who took part in Kurukshetra war. Sarangadwaja Pandya is dated, on the basis of Kurukshetra war, around 5100 CE.

    Evidence in Tamil Literature mentions many more Kings, Chera Chola and Pandyas, who preceded the Kings Perunchotru Udhiyan Neduncheralaathan, Karikal Chozhan and Sarangadwaja Pandya.We shall attempt to find more about these Kings and try to assign dates to them.

    I shall try to trace the Pandya Kings, who are referred to in Tamil Sangam Literature, who ruled before Sarangadwaja Pandya. The book Narkudi Velalar Varalaaru, published in 1920 and authenticated by Great Tamil Scholars like Venkatasamy Naattar among others.

    consisting of 1,035 Tamil poems by Arumuga Nayinar Pillai. It was published in 1920 by Sri S. Vala Subramaniya Pillai of Sivakalai. The book narrates the history of the Irungovel family, a branch of Pandya rulers who reigned for 201 generations from 3100 BCE to 1944 AD

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narkudi_Velalar_Varalaru

    The exact Tamil Name of Sarangadwaja Pandya , I am yet to ascertain. However, references to this Pandya is solid in Mahabharata and also the references to Perunchotru Udhiyan Cheralaathan having fed both Pandava and Kaurava armies. Evidence of Perunchotru Udhiyan Neduncheralaathan’s son Cheralaathan having led an expedition to North India.

    Though Tamil literature lists Kings who ruled before Mahabharata, I am here presenting the First Pandya King of the Pandya Dynasty about whom references are found in Sangam Classics.Ramayana mentions the land of Pandyas, by way of instructions by Sugreeva to his Vanara Sena while directing them to search for the abducted Sita of Ramayana.( Sundarakanda).

    Based on the date of Sarangadwaja Pandya and Kurukshetra war of Mahabharata, we shall proceed further.

    Though there many Kings , including Pandyas who preceded Sarangadwaja Pandya, I have been able trace Four Pandyan Kings.I shall trace the Chera and Chozha Kings later. In the Pandya lineage ,the four Pandyas who ruled before, Sarangadwaja PandyaI have been able to trace, are Vadivalambaninra Pandyan,Palyaagasalai Mudhukudumipperuvazhthi, Nilanthiruvir Pandyan and Perumpeyar Palyaagasalai Mudhukudumipperuvazhthi is marked as the 66th in Pandya Kings’ List.( Narkudi Velalar Varalaaru, link provided in the article)

    Vadimbalambaninra Pandyan. He is reported to have ruled much before Mahabharata and ruled for 24,000 Years.We may take 24, 000 as poetic hyperbole or could be a fact as I do not have evidence that people did not live that long. He was also called t’ Nediyon’ because he ruled for such a long period. He was one who celebrated a festival for Varuna, God of Ocean( முன்னீர் விழவின் நெடியோன்
    நன்னீர் பஃறுளி மணலினும் பலவே (புறம்-9, Puranaanuru 9).He seems to have followed Sanatan Dharma as he is also referred to as one who conducted a festival for Indra, Chief of Devas. This festival was called Indira vizha.This is recorded in Tamil Epic Silappadhikaram. The Festival for Varuna was celebrated at the mouth of the now defunct ( or still flowing under Indian Ocean) Pahruli River joined the Sea.As of now he is the only one who seems to have ruled very much before Mahabharata.He was followed by other three Pandya Kings, who preceded Sarangadwaja.The period corresponds to Lemuria and MU Civilization timeline. https://ta.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA_%E0%AE%A8%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%B1_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%A3%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%8D

    Vadimbalambaninra Pandyan.

    His name… Vadimbalambaninra Pandyan has an interesting background.’Vadimbu ‘ is an ancient Tamil word to refer to ‘ Foot Arch’ the concave portion of the Inner feet, which is/ was used by skillful riders to Speed up the 🐎. Vadivalambaninra Pandyan seems to have been a master of this technique. (வடிம்பு என்பது உள்ளங்கால், உள்ளங்கை முதலானவற்றின் விளிம்பு. கை, கால் வடிம்புகளில் (விளிம்புகளில்) குவளைப் பூக்களை நிறுத்தி, மகளிர் பொய்தல் விளையாடினர். நெடுந்தொடர்க் குவளை வடிம்பு உற அடைச்சி மணல் கமழ் மனைதொறும் பொய்தல் அயர மதுரைரைக்காஞ்சி 588 கால் வடிம்பால் (விளிம்பால்) குதிரைகளைத் தட்டி ஓட்டிச் சவாரி செய்தனர். மா உடற்றிய வடிம்பு பதிற்றுப்பத்து 70, கடுமா கடைஇய விடுபரி வடிம்பு புறம் 378 எருமைக் கடாவைக் காளி கால் வடிம்பால் மிதித்தாள். ஏற்றருமை நெஞ்சம் வடிம்பின் இடந்தாள் கலித்தொகை 103-44 என வரும் சொல்லாட்சிகளால் வடிம்பு என்னும் சொல்லின் பொருளை உணரலாம்.)

    Based on Ramayana date …

    Rama’s Birth Date:“This planetary configuration was prevailing on the January 5, 5089 BC, and it was on this day that Shri Ram left Ayodhya for 14 years of exile.

    Thus, he was 25 years old at that time (5114-5089)’ we may date Vadimbalambaninra Pandyan around 5100 BC.

    https://ramanisblog.in/2014/03/05/ramayana-scientific-dating-wrong/

    However, there could have been some other Pandya Kings who preceded him.I am looking for specific names of Kings in Ramayana.I shall update.As my blog is research oriented, I write with available information at a given point of time and update as and when I get additional information.

    Readers may contribute.

  • Megasthanes On Pandya Krishna Kapatapuram

    References to India and Tamils are found in Greece. Greek historians Megasthanes,Strabo and Arrian speak about the relationship between India and Greece.

    Of Tamils,exhaustive descriptions are found in these authors’ works.

    Krishna is mentioned as having been married to s Pandyan princess and had a daughter,Pandiah.

    He had her married to A Pandyan prince .

    Megasthanes also refers to Kavata, Kapatapuram,which dates back to First Tamil Sangam,which predates Mahabharata.

    Megasthanes took Krishna Concept, incorporated it as Heracles in Greece. Krishna as Hercules

    There is also the view that Balarama was Hercules

    ‘

    Pandyas are also mentioned by Greek Megasthenes where he writes about southern kingdom being ruled by women. Megasthenes knew of the Pandyan kingdom around 300 BCE. He described it in Indika as occupying the portion of India which lies southward and extends to the sea. According to his account, it had 365 villages, each of which was expected to meet the needs of the royal household for one day in the year. He described the Pandyan queen at the time, Pandaia as a daughter of Heracles.

    The Periplus of the Erythraean Sea (c. 60 – c. 100 CE) describes the riches of a ‘Pandian Kingdom’:

    …Nelcynda is distant from Muziris by river and sea about five hundred stadia, and is of another Kingdom, the Pandian. This place also is situated on a river, about one hundred and twenty stadia from the sea….
    The Chinese historian Yu Huan in his 3rd-century text, the Weilüe, mentions the Panyue kingdom: …The kingdom of Panyue is also called Hanyuewang. It is several thousand li to the southeast of Tianzhu (Northern India)…The inhabitants are small; they are the same height as the Chinese…. John E. Hill identified Panyue as Pandya kingdom. However, others have identified it with an ancient state located in modern Burma[39] or Assam.

    The Roman emperor Julian received an embassy from a Pandya about 361. A Roman trading centre was located on the Pandyan coast at the mouth of the Vaigai river, southeast of Madurai.

    Pandyas also had trade contacts with Ptolemaic Egypt and, through Egypt, with Rome by the 1st century, and with China by the 3rd century. The 1st-century Greek historian Nicolaus of Damascus met, at Antioch, the ambassador sent by a king from India “named Pandion or, according to others, Porus” to Caesar Augustus around 13 CE (Strabo XV.4 and 73).

    References and Citations.

    https://www.rarebooksocietyofindia.org/postDetail.php?id=196174216674_10156874725751675

    You may download the Book from the Link mentioned above. Download Book

  • Pandyas 7000 8,64,000 Years Evidence Valmiki Ramayana Kishkindha Kanda

    Pandyas 7000 8,64,000 Years Evidence Valmiki Ramayana Kishkindha Kanda

    World literature and Religious texts speak of the Great flood. This reference is found in Judaism, Christianity and legends of Lemuria and Atlantis. It is also referred to in the folklores of Maya’s,Incas ,Hitties,and among Australian Aborigines.

    Tamil Pandyas date back to 8,00,000 years.

    ‘

    Classic Tamil literature speaks of two Great Floods called ‘கடல் கோள்’ ‘Kadal Kol’.The reference to two floods that took place.Tamil literature records tha there was a Landmass which encompassed 49 Kingdoms, among them the three prominent ones were Chera, Chola and Pandya.The Pandya Kings established Conclave of Tamil Poets,’ தமிழ் சங்கம்’

    The first one was conducted in Then Madurai,the second one was at Kavatspuram and the third one was at Madurai ( present Madurai in Tamilnadu)

    Shifting of Sangam was necessitated by Great Flood.

    After the first flood, capital was shifted to Kapatapuram and when Tsunami consumed it, the Sangam was held at Madurai.

    Tamil texts speak of the lineage of the ancient Tamil kings of ancient Landmass

    Also list of poets during the period.

    World texts speak of these floods and normally these are dated around a few thousand years before Christian Era.

    Periplus speaks of Kavatam. Strabo and Pliny mention among other historians of the west.

    ‘

    Adiyarkunallar mentions that the lost land extended from Pahruli river in the north to the Kumari river in the South. It was located to the south of Kanyakumari, and covered an area of 700 kavatam (a unit of unknown measurement). It was divided into 49 territories (natu), classified in the following seven categories:

    • Elu teñku natu (“Seven coconut lands”)
    • Elu Maturai natu (“Seven mango lands”)
    • Elu munpalai natu (“Seven front sandy lands”)
    • Elu pinpalai natu (“Seven back sandy lands”)
    • Elu kunra natu (“Seven hilly lands”)
    • Elu kunakarai natu (“Seven coastal lands”)
    • Elu kurumpanai natu (“Seven dwarf-palm lands”)(wiki)

    Many Tamil Hindu shrines have legendary accounts of surviving the floods mentioned in Hindu mythology. These include the prominent temples of Kanyakumari, Kanchipuram, Kumbakonam, Madurai, Sirkazhi and Tiruvottiyur.[8]:57–69 There are also legends of temples submerged under the sea, such as the Seven Pagodas of Mahabalipuram. The Puranas place the beginning of the most popular Hindu flood myth – the legend of Manu – in South India. The Sanskrit-language Bhagavata Purana (dated 500 BCE-1000 CE) describes its protagonist Manu (aka Satyavrata) as the Lord of Dravida (South India). TheMatsya Purana (dated 250–500 CE) also begins with Manu practicing tapas on Mount Malaya of South India.[8]:57Manimeghalai (dated around 6th century CE) mentions that the ancient Chola port city of Kavirippumpattinam (present-day Puhar) was destroyed by a flood. It states that this flood was sent by the Hindu deity Indra, because the king forgot to celebrate a festival dedicated to him.

    There are refernces in Atlantis legends that the earth had an inner core populated with people.

    “The first is Mother Earth’s inner crust, which is a continuation of the external surface crust. The two Polar Regions each have a large entrance or hole, somewhat like a cored apple, and the crust wraps itself down and around the mantle into the hollow interior. The outer and inner crusts have very similar topography:

    https://ramanisblog-in.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/ramanisblog.in/2015/10/26/rama-atlantis-war-kavatam-periplus-port-window-of-lemuria/amp/?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA=#aoh=16004075329786&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Framanisblog.in%2F2015%2F10%2F26%2Frama-atlantis-war-kavatam-periplus-port-window-of-lemuria%2F

    Lemuria 34 Million Square Miles Details

    Kavata was recognised as the window to the East.

    Valmiki Ramayana, the epic that speaks of Sri Rama mentions Kavata, Kapatapuram in Tamil,and Pandya Kingdom. Kishkindha kandam also refers to Cheras,Cholas,Andhras as well.

    Ramayana is dated at 5114 BC.

    Rama’s Birth Date

    This was arrived at by checking the Astronomical data.

    Therefore, Tamil ,Tamil kings,Pandyas had existed at the time of Ramayana if not earlier.

    So Pandya ,Tamil Kingdom dates back to 7000 years.

    Yet there is another aspect to this.

    While one may feel elated at the Antiquity at 7000 years, the point is Ramayana is recorded to have happened on Treta Yuga, that is about 8,64,000 years ago.Present Kali Yuga is about 5114 years old. The earlier Epoch Dwapara Yuga lasted for 8,64,000 years.

    So based on this point the Ramayana is about 8,64,000 years old.

    How?

    The answer lies in the fact that Time is Cyclic and Non linear.

    Time non linear

    Non linear Time check related posts as well.

    Based on this, Ramayana and Tamil Kingdoms date back to 8,64,000 years.

    Mind boggling.

    Easy to dismiss as Myth.

    When one studies and Understands Theory of Time , Quantum measurements of Time scale, one would accept this.

    Fact that I do not understand does not mean that things are Myths.

    ततो हेममयम् दिव्यम् मुक्ता मणि विभूषितम् || ४-४१-१८
    युक्तम् कवाटम् पाण्ड्यानाम् गता द्रक्ष्यथ वानराः |

    18b, 19a. vaanaraaH = oh, vanara-s; tataH = from there; yuktam = joined to – braced to the wall of fortress; hemamayam divyam = full with gold, beautiful one; muktaa maNi vibhuuSitam = pearls, gemstones, decorated with; paaNDyaanaam kavaaTam = of Paandya [kingdom’s,] castle-door; gataaH = having gone there; drakSyatha = you shall see; search inside that gateway.

    “From there, on going to the Paandya Kingdome you shall see a fully golden castle-door bracing the compound-wall of the fortress, which is decorated with pearls and jewels, and conduct your search even in that kingdom. [4-41-18b, 19a]

    Citation. http://valmikiramayan.net/utf8/kish/sarga41/kishkindha_41_frame.htm