Tag: Krishna

  • Atlantis White Island, Of White Skinned?

    There are scholars who maintain that Atlantis was first mentioned by Plato.

    But references to the area designated as Atlantis are found in many cultures.

    Atlantis was given its name by the Greeks after Atlas.

    But early Greek legends indicate Sanatana Dharma, Hinduism connection.

    Balarama, Krishna legends have found and there is a view that the Pillars of Hercules was made in honor of Lord Krishna.

    Please check my posts by Googling the term and ramanan50.

    Be that as it may.

    Saka Dweepa is deemd to be Atlantis by taking reference to Sanskrit Texts.

    Atala, one of the regions, out of 14,is a part of the nether world probably indicating that it lies, below, the equator( at least a portion of it).

    Atlantis, Location.jpg Atlantis, Location

    The Vishnu Purana, one of the oldest of the Hindu Puranas, speaks of “Atala, the White Island,” one of the seven dwipas (islands) belonging to Patala (Book II, chaps. i, ii, and iii). This ancient text locates Atala geographically on the seventh (heat, or climate) zone, which according to Francis Wilford (the translator) is 24 to 28 degrees north latitude, putting it in the same latitude as the Canary Islands just off the North African coast. Col. Wilford rightly calls Atala, “Atlantis, the White Island”. (Wilford, 1808)

    At least one “authority” has attempted to identify Atala with Italy, but Italy is not an island. Also, Italy is 38 to 45 degrees north latitude. Finally, I fail to see any possibility that the “Western Ocean,” mentioned in the texts as its location, could be the Mediterranean Sea when the Karna Parva of the Mahabharata clearly describes Africa as comprising that ocean’s eastern shoreline—placing that body of water clearly to the west of Africa!

    Another non-Sanskrit scholar implies that Atala might be one of the well-known northern lands, such as Iceland or Greenland, and that the epithet “White Island” refers to its being covered with snow the majority of the time—even the mythological Hyperborea has been suggested. This does not appear to be the case.

    Atala and Sveta Dwipa (“White Island”) are not the only names for Atlantis in Sankrit lore. Another name, Saka Dwipa, is used just as often in the Puranas; and according to the Sanskrit Dictionary (1974), Saka Dwipa means “island of fair skinned people.” It is therefore quite possible that “white” refers to the skin color of its inhabitants, rather than to the dominant color of the island—although it should not be assumed that all Atlanteans were white-skinned.

    The terms “Atala” and “White Island” are used also by the Bhavishya Purana (4th cent. B.C.). Here it is stated that Samba, having built a temple dedicated to Surya (the Sun), made a journey to Saka Dwipa, located “beyond the salt water” looking for the Magas (magicians), worshippers of the Sun. He is directed in his journey by Suryahimself (i.e., journeys west following the Sun), riding upon Garuda (the flying vehicle of Krishna and Vishnu) he lands at last among the Magas.

    The Mahabharata (circa. 600 B.C.) also refers to “Atala, the White Island”, which is described as an “island of great splendour.” It continues: “The men that inhabit that island have complexions as white as the rays of the Moon and they are devoted to Narayana . . . Indeed, the denizens of White Island believe and worship only one God.” (Santi Parva, Section CCCXXXVII)

    Although there are numerous ancient Egyptian king-lists in existence, only a few include the famous “reign of the gods”. These include the Palermo Stone (2565-2420 B.C.), the Turin Papyrus (1300 B.C.), and Manetho’s Egyptian Chronicles (250 B.C.). Of these, the Turin Papyrus is by far the most complete source.

    The Turin Papyrus (Gardiner, 1987; Smith, 1872) lists ten kings who ruled during the “reign of the gods,” complimenting the fragments of Manetho which have come down to us. Most importantly, it informs us as to the correct number of actual kings, thus helping us to equate Egyptian names with the corresponding Greek names. Below is a list of god-kings from the Turin Papyrus, with Manetho’s fragmented list alongside:

    The Turin Papyrus Manetho’s King-list
    Ptah Hephaestus
    Ra Helios
    Su Agathodaemon
    Seb Cronos
    Osiris Osiris
    Set Typhon
    Horus . . .
    Thoth . . .
    Ma . . .
    Horus Horus

     

    So we have ten Aulitean (or, Aletean) kings reigning in a “foreign land” during the precise time Plato says ten Atlantean kings reigned in Atlantis. The Turin Papyrus also records the installation of the next series of kings in 9850 B.C.! This date is so close to the date given for the end of Atlantis that coincidence is virtually out of the question. In such a case, the equation “Aletean=Atlantean” doesn’t seem out of the question. ‘

    The Santi Parva also describes Atala as being inhabited by white men who never have to sleep or eat. (Ibid.) Interestingly enough, the Greek historian Herodotus (450 B.C.) describes a tribe of Atlanteans who “never dream and eat no living thing”. (History, Book IV) Can this be coincidence? And just as the god Poseidon is very much involved in the Atlantis story, likewise in the Sanskrit accounts we find Varuna (the Hindu Poseidon) very much involved in Atala.

    In other words, Atala, the White Island is remarkably similar to Plato’s Atlantis, even down to its circular capital city, Tripura! Tripura is made in three concentric parts, just as Plato’s Metropolis is divided into three parts by concentric canals. During the war of the gods and Asuras, the wicked cities of the Asuras began to fall, one by one, amidst loud cries of woe: “Burning those Asuras, he [the hero] threw them down into the Western ocean” (Karna Parva, Section XXXIV).

    Concerning the “concentric arrangment” of Tripura, a recent archeological discovery of a fortified palace in Bactria, India, known as Dashly-3, turned out to be a concentric 3-ringed structure of the “tripura type”. [Their words, not mine.] The archaeologists, excavating under the auspices of the Archaeological Departments of Pakistan and India (Mahadevan, 15), also state that the Dasyas, the builders of Dashly-3, were “Asura-worshippers”.

    In the Surya Siddhanta, an ancient Sanskrit text on astronomy, the translator (W. D. Whitney, 1860) mentions an “island” (dwipa) called Jambu Dwipa, surrounded by rings of alternating land and water. I am tempted to equate Jambu Dwipa with the Atlantean capital, which Plato describes as surrounded by circular canals, “making alternate zones of sea and land” (Critias)…

     

    For instance, it has been alledged that Plato called Atlantis “a continent,” whereas Atala was only an island; therefore, it is reasoned, they could not be one and the same.

    In actual fact, Plato never calls Atlantis a continent: only a “large island”. That Atala is also a very large island can be deduced from the Mahabharata, which describes Atala as having a capital city (Tripura), other major cities with houses, palaces, and streets, and as being populated by numerous tribes, some of whom chose to wage war against other nations. This is not a description of a small island.

    That whether it was an Island or a Continent is a non issue.

    Continent may be  a large mass surrounded by water.

    Like Australia.

    ‘The Santi Parva also describes Atala as being inhabited by white men who never have to sleep or eat. (Ibid.) Interestingly enough, the Greek historian Herodotus (450 B.C.) describes a tribe of Atlanteans who “never dream and eat no living thing”. (History, Book IV) Can this be coincidence? And just as the god Poseidon is very much involved in the Atlantis story, likewise in the Sanskrit accounts we find Varuna (the Hindu Poseidon) very much involved in Atala.

    In other words, Atala, the White Island is remarkably similar to Plato’s Atlantis, even down to its circular capital city, Tripura! Tripura is made in three concentric parts, just as Plato’s Metropolis is divided into three parts by concentric canals. During the war of the gods and Asuras, the wicked cities of the Asuras began to fall, one by one, amidst loud cries of woe: “Burning those Asuras, he [the hero] threw them down into the Western ocean” (Karna Parva, Section XXXIV).

    Concerning the “concentric arrangment” of Tripura, a recent archeological discovery of a fortified palace in Bactria, India, known as Dashly-3, turned out to be a concentric 3-ringed structure of the “tripura type”. [Their words, not mine.] The archaeologists, excavating under the auspices of the Archaeological Departments of Pakistan and India (Mahadevan, 15), also state that the Dasyas, the builders of Dashly-3, were “Asura-worshippers”.

    In the Surya Siddhanta, an ancient Sanskrit text on astronomy, the translator (W. D. Whitney, 1860) mentions an “island” (dwipa) called Jambu Dwipa, surrounded by rings of alternating land and water. I am tempted to equate Jambu Dwipa with the Atlantean capital, which Plato describes as surrounded by circular canals, “making alternate zones of sea and land” (Critias)’

    Try this one!

    The term Asura means powerful.

     

    While Ravana from the southern part of Bharatavarsha is called a Rakashsa, the people of Atala, Atlantis were called Asuras.

     

    This term set me to search for a landmass which had a culture similar to Sanatana Dharma.

     

    One finds references to this in the Ramayana where Sugriva directs hs army to search for Sita in Peru, identifying it with the Nazca Lines, which he called

     

    as  Shiva’s Trishul Mark, the Nazca Lines resemble the Trishul Mark.

     

    The description of Tripura confirmed suspicion that Atlantis is Tripura mentioned in the Purana and destroyed by Lord Shiva.

     

    However, secondary tradition founded by people and limited in time, and the original tradition has superhuman origin and timeless nature. Because of this myth, and even the Bible texts “Egyptian Book of the Dead” is only secondary to the polar revelation contained in the text of “Avesta”, “Rig” and “Popol Vuh.”There is direct textual overlap between the myth of Tripura and dredaniem of Atlantis. First of all, ‘of course, we are talking about uniformity describe the appearance of Tripura and Atlantis. “Matsya Purana” and “Mahabharata” reported three round town, merged into one, and the first one was made of gold, the other – from the silver, and the third – of iron [29]. In turn, Plato in the dialogue “Critias” said a central island surrounded by the “alternate water and earth rings (earth was two, and water – three) all larger diameter, conducted as if the compass of the middle of the island, at equal distance from each other” [ 30]. Central island and two earthen ring – this is a description of a triple-like Tripura. The walls of each of these cities were covered with metal. The outer city wall was covered with copper, middle – tin, and the inner city – precious orichalcum. [31] The walls of the temple of Poseidon were lined with silver and gold. [32] Such detailed description of the matches in the Indian holy city of ancient myth and prove not only the relationship of the two stories, but the stories of historical authenticity.In other Indo-European sacred myths we find the same pattern. In “Avesta” description Vary, a town built on the orders of Yima Ahuramazda, fits the description of Atlantis and polar Tripura.

     

    Tripura destroyed by Shiva Atlantis

    Delhi Indraprastha Built by Builder from Atlantis

    More to follow.

     

     

  • Godmen Prophets Not Approved by Vedas Smritis Hinduism

    Of late there has been a proliferation of godmen in Hinduism, offering salvation and performing miracles.

    There are corporate Gurus, whose background is murky, who address world leaders, in the garb of Hinduism.

    Their qualification is a few words of Hindu thoughts, some quotes and slick marketing.

    There are Gurus for Yoga.

    Yoga has become a school exercise!

    Idiots like me imagine one has to follow Patanjali, who lays down strict code of conduct ad diet for yoga sadhana.

    Today what one needs is a few mumbo-jumbo , basic lines in yoga and slick marketing.

    Horrible!

    Self styled godmen.jpg. Self styled godmen.

    Please check my Posts on yoga Sutras of Patanjali.

    Hinduism does not approve of Prophets, Godmen.

    Sanatana Dharma, Hinduism is personal.

    It does not allow brokers between you and God,after all He is your father.

    You do not need a broker to talk to your father.

    Nor does Hinduism believe in Prophets.

    Vedas and Smritis do not approve of or condone these Godmen or Prophets.

    There is no concept of Prophet or Godmen in Hinduism.

    One strives to realize Oneself.

    Paths travelled by great men are shown.

    They are only indicative.

    Each Man/woman has to find His/Her salvation.

    It is purely personal and determined by one’s disposition, Swabhava.

    No one can convert any one , in the real sense ,against his swabhava, Nature.

    Lord Krishna, in The Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 18, towards the close of the discourse to Arjuna, in the battle field of Mahabharata, says to Arjuna,

    I have briefed you the secret of secrets, you decide what to follow, according to your nature, after analysing what is good for you’

    This comes from Lord Krishna, an Avatar of Vishnu!

    Arthur osbourne records thus on his discussion with Ramana Maharishi, the great Saint of this century.

    When asked about his not accepting Sishyas , Disciples,Ramana Maharishi replied.

    ‘Who is a Guru and who is a Sishya?

    All are Brahman.

    and if you are hungry, only you should eat, not Me.

    So search for reality on you’

    • Though the article has received acceptance, there have been some comments in Facebook communities and by way of personal omments to my mail ID, about me questioning the Guru system of Hinduism

    What I have written here is about Godmen and Prophets, who have no place either in Sruthi and Smriti.

    However the Guru systemws practised during the Veidc and subsequent periods to teach Vedas and guide individuals in the Dharmic path, with no intent on the part of the teacher to ern money.

    And the concept of Guru, Acharya and Updhyaya are laid down.

    Excerpt from my earlier Post.

    Vedas have Chapters.

    One who teaches these parts is called Upaadhyayaa.

    He takes compensation for this service.

    ‘एकदेसम तु  वेदस्य वेदान्गान्यबी  वा पुन:: यूअध्यापथि वृथ्यर्थं  उपाध्याय: स  उच्च्यथे I’-Manu Smriti.

    Whereas one who does Brahmopadesam at the time of Upanayana and follows up with Teaching of the vedas is Called Acharya.

    Guru is one who seeks you out, if your yearning is sincere.

    He knows your yearnings ,assesses your capacity and initiates you in the process that suits you, for individuals are unique ,so are the paths to Realization.

    Guru is the Mentor while others are facilitators to study Veda

    Guru Acharya Upadhyaya

    If people believe in Godmen and at  later date they come to know that they have been misled, there is no point in blaming Hinduism as Hinduism, I repeat does not approve of Godmen and Prophets.

    It may be of interest to note that even Lord Rama and Krishna were not worshiped in the same way we worship them today, during their time.

    They were respected because of their actions, in the case of Krishna ,He was even abused!

    Everyone was ( at least many were) engaged in following Dharma as enshrined in the Vedas and were attempting to realize self.

    https://ramanisblog.in/2015/07/15/rama-not-worshiped-in-krishna-mahabharata-times/

    https://ramanisblog.in/2015/07/18/whom-did-lord-rama-worship/

  • Bullfighting Jallikkattu Spain corrida de toros Started By Krishna

    The presence of Bull in Hinduism is on two counts.

    One is as the Mount of Lord Shiva.

    As Shiva’s mount the bull is called Nandi.

     

    There are temples dedicated to Nandikeshwara or Nandeswara.

    There is a Huge Nandi, among other places in India, in Bangalore.

    A road is also named as Bull Temple Road in Bangalore.

    Another instance of buffalo is the slaying of it by Mahishauramardhini.

    Tamil literature speaks of bull fighting as Jallikkattu , which is about 5000 Years old practice.

    This event takes place in Tamil Nadu even today.

    The important place where the jallikkatu takes place is Alanganaalur,near madurai, Tamil Nadu, India.

    The Bullfighting practice has been in vogue in many ancient cultures.

    The bullfighting in Spain and Latin American countries is called corrida de toros.

    Lord Krishna married a  Pandyan princess, had a daughter through her, Pandya and gifted her 100 Yadava families as dowry.

    Krishna also attended Tamil Sangam as a Guest.

    Please read my posts on this.

    It is probable that Krishna introduced bullfighting in Tamil Nadu and throughout the world.

    Bullfighting Inscription in Tamil Nadu musuem.jpg
    Bull fighting in Tamil Literature. “A Bull baiting inscription 1” by Thamizhpparithi Maari – Own work. Licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0 via Commons – https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A_Bull_baiting_inscription_1.JPG#/media/File:A_Bull_baiting_inscription_1.JPG

    Bullfighting Inscription in Tamil Nadu musuem.

    Spanish Bullfight.jpg Spanish Bullfight.

    Bullfighting (Spanish: corrida de toros [koˈriða ðe ˈtoɾos] or toreo [toˈɾeo]; Portuguese: tourada [toˈɾaðɐ]), also known astauromachia or tauromachy (Spanish: tauromaquia  listen , Portuguese: tauromaquia; from Greek: ταυρομαχία“bull-fight”),is a traditional spectacle of Spain, Portugal, southern France and some Latin American countries (Mexico,Colombia, Ecuador, Venezuela and Peru),[7] in which one or more bulls are fought in a bullring. Although a blood sport, by definition, some followers of the spectacle prefer to view it as a ‘fine art’ and not a sport,[8] as there are no elements of competition in the proceedings.’

    The Mitanni Empire covered what is now known as Iraq, Turkey Syria, Lebanon,Egypt and included Italy.

    They were the ancestors of these people.

    Mitanni were the ancestors of the Egyptians as well…

    These Kings and even a Roman Emperor sported Thiruman, The Vaishnavite marks on their Body.

    The Sun King Akhenaten of Egypt who ruled between 1352-1336 BC was a son-in-law of Tushratta, the Mitanni king. The name Tushratta has been recorded in the Hittite cuneiform script.

    Some have suggested that the Sanskrit origin of Tushratta is Dasaratha, a few others that it is Tvesaratha (having splendid chariots), a name which is attested in the Rigveda.

    “The first Mitanni king was Sutarna I (good sun). He was followed by Baratarna I (or Paratarna great sun), Parasuksatra(ruler with axe),…. Saustatar (Sauksatra, son of Suksatra, the good ruler), Artadama (abiding in cosmic law)..Tushratta (Dasaratha), and finally Matiwazza (Mativaja, whose wealth is thought) during whose lifetime the Mitanni state appears to have become a vassal to Assyria”. Subhash Kak traces the ‘arna’ syllable in the names of the kings to ‘araNi’ (अरणि) meaning ‘sun’…

    (Akhenaten, Surya, and the Rigveda’, Prof Subhash Kak (an Indian American computer scientist, previous Head of Computer Science Department, Oklahoma State University)…

    Bull fighting in Spain started around 18th century. There are different versions of bull fighting. In Spain the bull is killed ,that too with a weapon like we see in the Indus seals. This type of bull fighting has spread to Latin America and Mexico when the Spanish culture was introduced.

    Whether it is Tamil Nadu or Spain special kind of bulls are raised exclusively for this purpose with a special type of diet and special training. Tamils have practised this ancient sport for at least two thousand years. They call it Jalli kattu or Manju Virattu or Eru Thazuvuthal. It means chasing the bull or tackling the bull. In ancient Tamil Nadu the horns of the bulls were tied with coins, may be gold coins…

    We have lot of proof to believe that the Bull fighting was started by Lord Krishna who was the most popular cowherd (Yadava Kula Tilaka) in the world. Kaliyuga started in 3102 BC after the death of Krishna. But Mahabharata war took place between 1000 and 1500 BC according to majority of the scholars. Even if we go by this date, Krishna was the first one to have a fight with almost all the animals. He fought with an elephant, a bull, a python, a horse, a cran , a donkey and many more . All were set up by his uncle Kamsa according to Hindu mythology. These anecdotes have produced huge literature in Tamil and Sanskrit which has got no parallel in any part of the world. Krishna’s episodes are mentioned in film songs even today in almost all the Indian languages. The bull Krishna fought was Aristasura.

    The proof for Krishna starting this comes from 2000 year old Sangam Tamil literature. Kalitokai is one of the eight anthologies of Sangam (Cankam) period. Nalluruthtiranar who sang Mullai Kali gave a graphic description of bull fighting. Justifying his name Shiva (Rudra), the poet mentioned Lord Siva in all his poems. Justifying that it was started during Mahabaharata days the poet gave lot of references to Mahabharata episodes. He said that it was practised by the Ayar community (cowherds)in the pastoral areas.

    The poet mentioned how the bulls tear the bull fighters apart like the buffalo riding Yama, God of Death. The colourful bulls are described and compared to various personalities -white bull to Balarama and black bull to Krishna and so on. The Mullaik Kali has got 16 poems beautifully describing the pastoral culture of ancient Tamilnadu. Anyone who reads this Mullaik Kali will get a better picture of how it was practised in ancient Tamil Nadu. All the suspense, gossip, flirting, amorous desires of Ayar girls are dealt with in hundreds of lines- a feast to Tamil lovers.’

     

    Jallikkattu.

    Jallikkattu, Alanganallur.jpg Jallikkattu, Alanganallur.

    Jallikattu (Tamil: சல்லிகட்டு, callikaṭṭtu) also known Eruthazhuvuthal (Tamil: ஏறுதழுவல், ērutazhuval) or Manju viraṭṭu (Tamil: மஞ்சு விரட்டு), is a bull taming sport played in Tamil Nadu as a part of Pongal celebrations on Mattu Pongal day. Bulls are bred specifically for the sporting event and a specific breed of cattle bred for this purpose is known as “Jellicut”. In May 2014, the Supreme Court banned the sport citing animal welfare issues.

    Jallikattu, which is bull-baiting or bull cuddling/holding was a popular sport amongst warriors during the Tamil classical period. Bull fighting was common among the ancient tribes who lived in the ‘Mullai’ geographical division of the ancient Tamil country.[5] Later, it the sport became a platform for display of bravery and prize money was introduced for entertainment. The term “Jallikattu” originated from the words “Jalli” and “Kattu”, referring to silver or gold coins tied to the bulls’ horns.[5] A seal from the Indus Valley Civilization depicting the sport is preserved in the National Museum, New Delhi.[6] A single painting discovered in a cave about 35 km west of Madurai shows a lone man trying to control a bull and the painting, done in white kaolin is estimated to be about 1,500 years old

    Citation.

    http://archbhoo-india.blogspot.in/2015/01/lord-krishna-started-bull-fighting.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullfighting

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallikattu

  • Mahabharata Weapons User Manual Found Kerala

    I have written on the use of weapons in the Mahabharata..

    I have also written articles on

    Rules of War,

    Battle Formations,

    Weapons of Mass Destruction,

    List of Astras,

    Brahmastra Invocation Mantra.

    Now  a manuscript containing the Mantra for the weapons used in the Mahabharata War has been found in Kerala.

    They are a sort of User Manual.

    ‘A manuscript found from the collections of Ashtavaidyan Vaidyamadham Cheriya Narayanan Namboodiri, who passed away recently, clearly mentions the mantras to use brahmastra, agneyastra, among others. The 63-folio manuscript in palm leaves, believed to be rewritten about 120 years ago, is the only manuscript retrieved so far in the country that tells how to use all the deadly weapons mentioned in the Mahabharata in about 48 well-described mantras.

    “It was Cheriya Narayanan Namboodiri’s wish to digitize all his manuscript collections — 1,300 bundles — for the benefit of researchers, students and the future generation. The particular manuscript was noticed while we were digitizing the collections using the most reliable method, reprography,” said A R Krishnakumar, project manager at Central Council for Research in Ayurvedic Sciences (CCRAS). Krishnakumar is part of a team from the Indira Gandhi National Centre for the Arts (IGNCA), New Delhi that has been bestowed with the responsibility of digitizing all the manuscripts available with both public and private parties in the country. “People may wonder why the manuscripts should be digitized. It is because they would throw light on our history, culture, customs, ancient religions besides giving information on the environment, health and science of ancient times,” said Krishnakumar.

    “Till now, we haven’t even used 15% of the information from the manuscripts being written on ayurveda. Yet ayurveda is considered to be one of the most accepted system of medicine in the world. Now imagine if the knowledge in five lakh-odd bundles of manuscripts are made available to the society, how much more effective would ayurveda be,” he added.

    “We had digitized a portion of the manuscripts available with libraries, colleges, universities and other institutions in Kerala a few years ago. We started the second phase of the initiative from Vaidyamadham at Mezhathur in Palakkad district. Our next destination is Kanippayyur Mana near Kunnamkulam, famous for thachu sasthra (architectural science), and other centres that have hundreds of manuscripts preserved with them. Thankfully, all these private parties are now coming forward to share the knowledge they have been preserving from the past,” said senior reprographic officer of IGNCA Krishnakumar B. ‘

    Citation.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Found-User-guide-for-Mahabharata-weapons/articleshow/26762484.cms

  • Krishna Dynasty Kingdoms Extended Throughout India

    One comes across interesting information when one researches the Indian Texts, which have been discarded by the West and accepted by the Indian Intellectuals((?)

    Yadava Kingdom.png Spread of Yadavas .Yadava Kingdom.

    To me the Indian Texts are History and there is ample physical evidence to prove what has been stated in them.

    They have been validated by archeology, astronomy, internal and external evidence of the west’s interpretation of Indian History.

    I have written quite a few articles on the validation of Indian History, be it the Age of the Rig Veda, Rama and Krishna, Agastya, Tamil Kings, Shiva, Murugan,,the Age of Thiruvannamalai, Tirupati temples.

    I have been intrigued by the worship of Aravan, son of Lord Krishna since early ages in Tamil Nadu.

    There is a Temple for Aravan ,Koothaandaar Koil, near Tindivanam , about 3 hours from Chennai, where a festival is conducted years by the Third gender for Iravan.Aravan is called thus in Tamil as words starting from R is not allowed by Tamil Grammar.

    And the practice of Bul fighting called Manju Virattu in Tamil from ancient times in Tamil Nadu has Krishna connection.

    Bull Fighting , which is famous in Spain was started by Krishna!

    And the term Eru Thazhuvudhal, that of  a jilted lover embracing death by climbing a special tree, also has Krishna connection!

    I shall be writing on this in detail.

    Meanwhile, I came across information that Krishna’s sons expanded their Kingdom throughout India and all the Kingdoms of India descended from either Rama or Krishna.

    ‘The main part that Mahabharata mentions that Arjuna established the son of Kritavarma at Mrittikavati and the great-grandson of Krishna, Vajra at Indraprastha. Some Puranas mention Vajra was established at Mathura. But these two kings did survive out of the Yadava clan. The Yadava clan was not completely wiped out but it’s influence reduced considerably.

    The Abhiras were becoming strong since the Mahabharata war. Their kingdom was in the Sindhu region. The control of Purus and Yadavas reduced considerably on that region after the war. The Abhiras attacked Arjuna when he was taking back the Yadava women. The Abhiras took away some of these women. If the Mahabharata had actually happened around 3000 BC, then this entry of Abhiras in the Saraswati region could very well explain the Harappan civilization which sprung around the same time. The Gupta dynasty is claimed to have sprung from these Abhiras. The Yadava kingdoms did exist, but became less in number. The one Yadava kingdom that existed was the Devagiri kingdom in Maharashtra whose rulers claim direct descent from Krishna. There still exist people with the surname Yadav in north India who claim descent from the royal Yadavas. Apart from that, Nanda, Krishna’s foster father was also included in the Yadava clan and his descendants called Nandavanshi Yadavas still exist…..”

    It can be inferred from the vamshanucharita (genealogy) sections of a number of major Puranas that, the Yadavas spread out over the Aravalli region, Gujarat, the Narmada valley, the northern Deccan and the eastern Ganges valley.[10] TheMahabharata and the Puranas mention that the Yadus or Yadavas, a confederacy comprising numerous clans were the rulers of the Mathura region.[11] The Mahabharata also refers to the exodus of the Yadavas from Mathura to Dvaraka owing to pressure from the Paurava rulers of Magadha, and probably also from the Kurus”

    Yadava dynasty, rulers of a 12th–14th-century Hindu kingdom of central India in what is now the Indian state of Maharashtra. Originally a feudatory of the Eastern Chalukyas of Kalyani, the dynasty became paramount in the Deccan under Bhillama (c. 1187–91), who founded Devagiri (later Daulatabad) as his capital. Under Bhillama’s grandsonSinghana (reigned c. 1210–47) the dynasty reached its height, as the Yadava campaigned against the Hoysalas in the south, the Kakatiyas in the east, and the Paramaras and Chalukyas in the north.

    The Yadavas spread to me Tamil Nadu and Kerala.

    The Velir Kingdoms were , at one point of time, the Major allies of Chola Kings.

    Citations.

    http://iyadav.com/yadava-kingdoms-after-the-battle-of-mahabharat/

    http://www.britannica.com/topic/Yadava-dynasty

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yadava

    http://historyindianized.blogspot.in/2013/06/the-elimination-of-yadavas-how-true-is.html