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  • Sanatana Dharma Tamil Culture From Russia to Micronesia Yamanya Culture

    Sanatana Dharma Tamil Culture From Russia to Micronesia Yamanya Culture

    I have been writing on Sanatana Dharma,Hinduism and Tamil and their presence throughout the world in ancient times.During this journey I have been able to find evidences of these in almost all parts of the world, from Australia to Americas through the Far East, East, Middle east, West and Caribbean, not to forget Africa.I have found traces of practices,customs,religious thoughts and also straight presence of Vedic Sanatan Dharma,Tamils.Based on the researched information, i have been able to propose that the the ancient world had Sanatan Dharma/Tamil presence. Based on evidence found in Sanskrit Puranas, Ithihasas, Tamil Classics, and cross referencing them with archeological finds of the lands I had referred to and with the legends and practices of the peoples there,the existence of Aryavartha( what is present in the North of Vindhyas now) and the South of Vindhyas(called Dravida)

    The timeline of both is mind boggling. While Aryavartha is traced to about 7000 ago( based on the rough estimate of Rig Veda date of around 5000 years ago),that of Tamil is traced to about 20,000 years ago( based on the archeological date of the sunken city of Poompuhar, Tamil Nadu,India).Even this does not seem to be correct. A site of advanced Tamil Civilization near Chennai,Tamil Nadu, India is dated around a Million years. This advanced civilization quotes Vedas, Sanskrit! Nataraja ,Jwalapuram ,Cuddappah,Andhra Pradesh( or is is Telengana now?) is dated areound 74,000 years based on Mount Toba Ash dispersal.So, it is eveident that these two civilizations, cultures are quite ancient.Another interesting point is tthat most academicians and people take Himalayas to be most ancien,whilw writing History.But the Deccan Plateau and the western and eastern Ghats of India are among the most ancient in the world, if not the most ancient.Hi,malayas can be dated to somewhere around 40 Lakhs years ago, the western Ghats and Eastern Ghats of India are dated to 21000 Million years ago, as eveidenced in the Formation of Sila Thorana of Tirumala Hills,India.Not to be outdone,Thiruvannamalai in Tamil Nadu is dated around 2.94 Billion years !

    So this leads us to an interesting question. Which is Older?The Aryavarta or the Dravidia? I gave up after tracing their antiquity to a Million years .Fact is both are ancient..I am unable to assert with evidence which is earlier.As I research, I write. As on date, available evidence points to Dravida being the earlier one , considering that the First Human Being Manu is from Dravida Desa( This is not the only evidence. Kindly read my other articles )

    The presence of Siva concept much before the Vedic period,details of Siva concept in Tamil being more elaborate,aborigines of Australia performing Trinetra Dance of Siva, the physical resemblance of ancient Australian people, the evidence of Naan Madol in northeast of Australia, presence of Tamils in Micronesia and more evidence point out that the Tamils lived in those areas in ancient times,

    The name Nan Madol means “spaces between” and is a reference to the canals that crisscross the ruins. The original name was Soun Nan-leng (Reef of Heaven), according to Gene Ashby in his book Pohnpei, An Island Argosy. It is often called the “Venice of the Pacific”.

    Today Nan Madol forms an archaeological district covering more than 18 km² and includes the stone architecture built up on a coral reef flat along the shore of Temwen Island, several other artificial islets, and the adjacent Pohnpei main island coastline. The site core with its stone walls encloses an area approximately 1.5 km long by 0.5 km wide containing nearly 100 artificial islets—stone and coral fill platforms—bordered by tidal canals.

    https://ramanisblog.in/2016/11/18/then-madurai-tamil-sangam-era-in-micronesia-north-of-australia/

    Now, consider the following.

    • The ancestral components are found in South Asia and Neolithic West Asian Farmers of Iran.

    The origins of the Dravidians are a “very complex subject of research and debate”. They may have been indigenous to the Indian subcontinent, but origins in, or influence from, West-Asia have also been proposed. Their origins are often viewed as being connected with the Indus Valley Civilisation, hence people and language spread east- and southwards after the demise of the Indus Valley Civilisation in the early second millennium BCE, some propose not long before the arrival of Indo-Aryan speakers,with whom they intensively interacted. The Dravidian peoples are of a mixed genetic origin and formed initially due to the mixture of indigenous South Asian Hunter Gatherers and Neolithic West Asian farmers from Iran, with all[/almost all Dravidian groups later additionally acquiring admixture from Steppe Yamnaya pastoralists.[From these interactions and migrations arose eventually the so-called “Hindus synthesis”, after 500 BCE.

    The third century BCE onwards saw the development of large kingdoms in South India. Medieval South Indian guilds and trading organisations like the “Ayyavole of Karnataka and Manigramam” played an important role in the Southeast Asia trade, and the cultural Indianisation of the region.

    Dravidian visual art is dominated by stylised temple architecture in major centres, and the production of images on stone and bronze sculptures. The sculpture dating from the Chola period has become notable as a symbol of Hinduism.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dravidian_peoples#Etymology

    The Yamnaya culture, also known as the Yamnaya Horizon,[ Yamna culture, Pit Grave culture or Ochre Grave culture, was a late Copper Age to early Bronze Age archaeological culture of the region between the Southern Bug, Dniester, and Ural rivers (the Pontic steppe), dating to 3300–2600 BC.[3] Its name derives from its characteristic burial tradition: Ямная (romanization: yamnaya) is a Russian adjective that means ‘related to pits (yama)’, and these people used to bury their dead in tumuli (kurgans) containing simple pit chambers. “Yamna” is the name that is derived from the same word in Ukrainian (ямна, romanization: yamna).

    The people of the Yamnaya culture were likely the result of a genetic admixture between the descendants of Eastern European Hunter-Gatherers and people related to hunter-gatherers from the Caucasus. People with this ancestral component are known as Western Steppe Herders. Their material culture was very similar to the Afanasevo culture, and the populations of both cultures are genetically indistinguishable.[1] They lived primarily as nomads, with a chiefdom system and wheeled carts that allowed them to manage large herds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamnaya_culture

    The practice of Burying people in a large Jar is the ancient custom Of Tamils,Mudu Makkal Thaazhi).

    • Tamil King Sibi Had his capital near Swat Valley.
    • Murugan, Peacock Tribe is found in Turkey (Murugan is worshipped as God in Tamil)
    • Land of Tamils was located in the north eastern portion of what is now Australia.
    • Presence of Vikramadiya in Middle east.
    • Krishna’s Palace in Port Barzhyn, Russia.
    • Narada Mountains,Narodnaya in Urals.
    • Arkaim in Russia is modelled after Rig Vedic Mandala design.
    <p class="has-drop-cap" value="<amp-fit-text layout="fixed-height" min-font-size="6" max-font-size="72" height="80">Considering these points , it may be proposed that the Vedic Culture and Tamil Civilization extended from Russia, through the middle east, South Asia to Australia to Micronesia.Considering these points , it may be proposed that the Vedic Culture and Tamil Civilization extended from Russia, through the middle east, South Asia to Australia to Micronesia.

  • India In Antarctic Circle Daksha Underground Tunnel Antarctica?

    While searching for information on the spread of Sanatana Dharma throughout the world , I come cross, at times, very strange information that seems to contradict our Knowledge of things and they even looked idiotic.

    But when one searches with an open mind, the answer is startling and is borne by facts.

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    Shiva Tandava.

    When I searched on the Color of Rama and Krishna, I landed with the information that the Ancestor of Rama was From the South.

    He was Satyavrata Manu and it is backed by Bhgavatham ,Tamil Classics and geographical evidence of the great Flood in the south of India.

    On Agastya Crossing to South, It has been validated by Star Canopus.

    Thiruvannmlai is about 3 Million Years old.

    Tirupati is 2100 million years old.

    Jwalapurm in Kurnool, India is about 100, 000 years old.

    Shiva Parvati marriage was about  40 Million Years ago, Proved by Tectonic Plate movements.

    You may refer for more under Hinduism in this site.

    Clic the Lin to see the Map.

    https://goo.gl/maps/djj5U
    Now I have received information from a  source in the US, who does want to be identified, about an Underground Tunnel in Antarctic,

    with Map Co ordinates.

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    Underground Tunnel in Antarctic?

    The Tunnel entrance is visible.

    I am aware that people would call this  glacier or an Ice formation.

    But there are some facts worth mentioning.

    India was near the Antarctic Circle about 255 Million Years ago.

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    Geological survey reveals that the continents move constantly. Early on there was one large continent called Pangaea which later on split into two parts; Northern Pangaea (North America and Eurasia) commonly called as Laurasia and  Southern Pangaea (South America, Africa, India , Antarctica, and Australia ) which was called as Gondwanaland. After Pangaea split, Laurasia drifted northward and Gondwanaland drifted southward with the Indian sub-continent closer to the South Pole. The presence of divergent plate boundaries found in the middle of oceans or in the middle of a continent is proof of the existence of the large continent Pangaea. As the fragmented land masses moved away from each other sea water filled up the split and the continents as we know them now were formed. Ice age in Indian subcontinent and North America could be explained if these continents had been inside the polar or circumpolar zone; this would have happened when the Indian sub-continent was part of Gondwanaland. The Indian Sub-Continent was very near the South Pole and was inside the present Antarctic Circle. Refer to the following websites.

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article2094202.ece  Indian Subcontinent was near South Pole.

    http://www.atlas.keystone.edu/research/geology/03HistoricalGeology.htm

    It is confirmed that the Indian Sub-continent was close to the South Pole during the Late Permian period which was around 255 MYA ago. There are many Rig Vedic hymns that describe the duration of day and night in the Polar regions. There are also hymns to describe the Polar dawn and other conditions that are unique to the Polar region. A question to explore would be, are the hymns referring to the period when Indian sub-continent was inside the Antarctic Circle or has there been a time in history when the Indian sub-continent was indeed inside the Arctic circle? Could it also be that the Indian sub-continent was inside the Antarctic Circle but there had been a 180 Deg flip in the poles with Antarctica situated at/near the North Pole? Science tells us that a 180 Deg flip in the poles is quite possible. Please refer  the following websites.

    http://istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/earthmag/reversal.htm

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/11/111130171105.htm

    http://www.crawford2000.co.uk/mag.htm

    In summary, the Rig Vedic hymns which we will examine tomorrow might be referring to a remote point in history when the Indian sub-continent had been inside/near the Polar Regions. If we take it to be referring to the time when the Indian sub-continent was near the South Pole, we get the date for the Vedas in millions of years (Permian period – 255 MYA).  Either the Vedic Hymns are eye witness accounts of Polar conditions or geological studies were advanced enough during the Vedic period to have been able to explore the Polar Regions.

    I shall be writing on the Polar Days and Nights as described in the Vedas.

    Now to the tunnel.

    1.Thiruvannamalai in Tamil Nadu, South India is about 3 Billion years old.

    2.Tirupati, also in South India is 2100 Million years old.

    3.Ancient Tamil site of advanced civilisation dated a Million Years is in Chennai, also in south.

    4.Jwalapuram in Kurnool , which is about a Million years old is in Andhra Pradesh, also in the South Of India.

    5.Vaiwasvatha Manu(Satyavrata Manu) was from the South.

    6.Daksha Prajapathi is from the south.

    7.Shiva was worshiped in the South much before the Vedas period.

    8.While one can find the Patala Loka reference in Hinduism tallying with the presence of Mayan , Incas Civilisations and artifacts found in the US, Central Americas support the Patala Loka of Hinduism( Please read my post on these), there is a dearth of materail on this issue.

    9.Refernces are found scattered in the Puranas about the three Patala Lokas.

    10.Arctic being one of hte Patalas, can Antarctic be the other?

    11.Considering the worship of Shiva in the  South preceding the Vedic Texts, the presence of temples and Hills in the South relating to the older periods, The presence of Agastya in the South, Tamil worship of Shiva and Subrahmanyaaas Murugan as predominat deities, probable that the Antarctic could have been the place for Daksha( though this contradicts Himalaya Dakshaand Dakshyayani(Sati) where he hid from Veerabhadra, who was created by Shiva to destroy Dasha Yagnya?

    I have been forced to form a theory on these lines as there are more than One Daksha(he changes in every Manavatara) and there is a Temple in Kerala, Southern Tip of India where Daksha Yagnya is celebrated even today (Please read my Post on this)

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