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Caste System (India) needs Reform?

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Caste system has worked for India for centuries,excepting during British Rule.

 

British used the Division of labor ,promoted by Caste System to Divide and Rule.

 

 

Contrary to what people think, mistreatment of lower castes had not been in vogue prior to their regime. The Gods ,Krishna, Rama, are not Brahmins.Rama is a Kshatriya and Krishna is a cowherd.Disposition and conduct determine caste and nothing else.

As of today Caste in India exists for Politicians to garner votes .Ordinary Indian to day does not think of Caste any more,especially the educated.

 

 

Mistreatment of some castes are still on in India .It is practiced by some communities,like Kshatriyas(never by a Brahmin) because of old habits.This is also mending.

 

 

So called lower castes are also moving up the social order and they are well integrated into the main stream.

 

 

However still some way to go.This will happen by literacy alone and not by enacting laws.This will increase the divide into a chasm.

 

 

Unlike Race or other Divisions in Society,caste system is not based on Race or creed or language.It was based initially on the Disposition of the individual to perform a task.To day we find Doctors children becoming

 

Doctors,Lawyers offspring as Lawyers( at least in India).

 

Similarly,based on the skillset of the individual,caste system was formed.

 

This has no bearing on birth.

 

Unfortunately many of the systems founded by Hindus were not not understood properly, have been practiced by rote with out reading the texts.

 
It is a fact that differences between individuals can not be wished away nor one’s feeling of Superiority.This is the Nature of Man.Casteless., people say.But is it feasible or possible?Inequality/divisions will be there in the world;only thing is it shall be known by a different name, like poor and the rich,Party members and common man in Communist countries,Nation Vs Nation,Language Vs Language,Region vs Region, profession Vs profession.

 



When an individual has a particular disposition or Aptitude and if he is raised in the environment which nurtures it, he/she will realize his/her potential..This is exactly what Caste is all about.
http://worldhaveyoursay.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/should-india-be-left-to-reform-at-its-own-pace/#comment-167690

 

Related:

People often confuse Caste with Varna, which means group that has a particular disposition and vocation.

 

 

What people are talking now is about caste, which is a distorted view of Varna, which has no sanction ofSastras, the Holy Writs.

 

 

Most of the great sages and Gods worshipped do not belong to Brahmin community, supposedly higher in echelon.

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13 responses to “Caste System (India) needs Reform?”

  1. cutie Avatar
    cutie

    insaan apne guno se upar uthta hai unche staan pr baith jane se nhi..caste n community created by NUT people jin logo ko khud ko dusro se shreshth batane ke liye apne aapko ek high community mein rakh liya or dusro ko niche dikhane ke liye lower community mein rakh diya gaya bina unki marzi jane…i want to tell to all bloody hindu people community ye decide nhi kregi bastard ki tum kitne high or low ho…tumhare karam tumhe upar or niche girane wale hai…arre gadho god ne insaan banaye hai caste nhi…gadho aisa hota toh christan or muslim mein bhi aise hi char community hoti bt tum log unko as all christan n as all muslim hi bolte ho…tum bloody hindu logo ne khudh hi apne bando ko khudh se alag kr diya…char community hai hindu mein let me explain it to very well suno gadho…hindu ko as a body lo us body ke char hisse tum gadho ne kiye 1st brahmin jisko sir ka staan diya or kshatriye ko bhuja or vaishya ko pait ka or tum sabki favorite community shudr jisko per ka staan diya….ab gadho batao agr per kat doge toh kya apni manzil ki taraf tunde ho ke jayoge tum sb apahiz ho yaad rkhna..agr hmari body ka ek part bhi kat jaye toh hum apahiz kehlate hai toh tum bloody hindu khudh apahiz ban chuke ho..ek bade se bada brahmin or devta bhi jb apne maa baap ntmastak hone ke liye sir jhukata hai toh woh uske charno ko choone ke liye toh akal ke andho sabse uncha staan toh shudr log prapt kr chuke hai…tum nhi tum gire huye ghatiya egoist bande ho jisko god bhi narak mein dalega….i m also brahmin bt i hate castsim okh….say no to community n caste den reservation should be stop itself…abroad isliye develop kr raha hai bcs unka mind indian ghatiya logo ki tarah nhi hai especially katar hindu..1000 saal baadh bhi india mein koi development nhi hogi yeh aise hi high low ke liye hi mrte rahenge…we all r hindu idiot we all r same koi lower or high caste nhi hai..

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  2. ramya Avatar
    ramya

    so what happens to people whose dispositions are different.who are not so capable or efficient or clever etc.,
    are they doomed?
    should they make do with less of the resources,like food water shelter etc., which will be taken up by the others more capable and therefore more powerful than them?
    Does this mean ultimately that “might is right”?

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    1. ramanan50 Avatar
      ramanan50

      No body is doomed .Every one does what one can and reaps based on his dispositions and ability.
      None can or shall stop that.
      Less distribution of water etc has nothing to do with caste.
      It is a fact that , though unpalatable,Might is Right’.
      In fact correct application of Varnaasrama Dharma shall avoid these problems.
      Varnaasrama is not caste;it is a misnomer.

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  3. ramya Avatar
    ramya

    you have spoken about “natural principle of dispositions being different” are these dispositions hereditary.

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    1. ramanan50 Avatar
      ramanan50

      You might say so.Yes.

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  4. ramya Avatar
    ramya

    are you all justifying caste system do you also subscribe to
    ideas of aryan superiority as supported by hitler,if not whats the difference between the two can you explain

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    1. ramanan50 Avatar
      ramanan50

      Caste system as I have tried to explain in short, does not believe in nor support supremacy of one over another.Caste system is based on the natural principle of dispositions being different among the people and has been organized, at the micro and macro level, to channelize for the growth of the individual and the society and it is the best system ,as I see it, to suit the individual and society.
      The question of superiority does not arise as far as Hinduism is concerned.Hitler’s assertion on this is non sense and he used it to gain political control over Germany.
      The term Aryan in Sanskrit means Pure/Blemishless; it is an adjective.it does not denote a race or a group of people.This term has been used by the West to differentiate between the people North of Vindhya/sathpura range and those South of it.It is a geographical identification mark,Nothing more.Other theories like Aryan invasion etc are all figment of imagination.

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  5. Prashobh Karunakaran Avatar
    Prashobh Karunakaran

    As the human beings evolved, they segregated into the four castes as was advised by the highly evolved sages. All the castes are equal and necessary part of one body. Just as the legs are as important to the functioning of a body as the head, the caste system segregates people by employment:
    1) The head represent the Brahmins, the spiritual educators or seekers.
    2) The shoulders represent the Kshatriya, needed for protection of the community.
    3) The stomach represent the Vaisya, the entrepreneurs and business executives.
    4) The legs represent the Sudras, the instruction followers who go through life obeying
    instructions.
    Thus the four castes are the limbs of one body of society. The justification for the caste system is similar to the justification for democracy, in that, it has problems but it is better than the alternative. In a democracy, certain segments of populations go to poverty and others become filthy rich, and there is associated corruption. The right to fail and face the consequences, so as to learn, is its greatest advantage, making it much better than the alternative. Similarly, the power abuse of one caste over the others will happen from time to time. Sometimes it may even get bad enough for God himself to correct it, but the caste system is the best way to ensure excellence is maintained in the various professions. It is just like Darwin’s theory of evolution, where animals get specialized in acquiring a certain set of food. In this case, humans get specialized in their job functions so that they excel in it over time, therefore increasing their spiritual level. God had to incarnate as Parashurama to solve one of these cases of imbalance of power among the castes. The Kshatriyas had become too powerful and were abusing the other castes. The logic behind the caste system can be visualized in the present scenario of any country. Every country, whatever the stages of progress, must have three requisites:
    1) Material resources – provided for by:
    i) The workforce who follow instruction
    ii) The entrepreneurs who give the instructions
    2) Protective power – provided for by the Security personnel
    3) A proper education system – provided for by the spiritually inclined people.
    The peace and prosperity of the world depends on the work of these four classes of people. They form the legs of a table. Even if one leg is weak, the other three cannot support the table. When production is plentiful, it has to be guarded against loot and plunder. When soldiers and security men become powerful, they turn into a menace to the country, while production declines. When production and protection are adequate, if the educational system takes a wrong track, the country is weakened. The development of material resources and the defense of the country ultimately depend on the education that is imparted. The table is not only “four legs”! How can one use a table of four legs? There should be a plank of love that is to say, love for the country. A country does not mean a specified area on the map, the soil. It means the human community inhabiting the territory. And ‘love’ means the sense of inter-relationships and involvement of the individuals within that community. Without all the five aspects, there will be a breakdown in society. For example, today the degree of love is absent in many highly educated and highly placed persons. As a result, the process of education too is suffering from misuse and the billions of dollars set aside for education goes to waste. Since education affects the other three sections, even the money spent on instruction-followers, entrepreneurs, and protectors does not yield the full fruit. Each caste is not supposed to be inferior to another. The superiority and inferiority of castes developed in the current day India is due to the weakened plank of love. There are various ages when different castes seem prominent or prosperous on earth. Humans who were teachers or spiritual seekers (Brahmins) since ancient times will have some mental and physical characteristics, which can be inherited by their children. This inheritance could be biological or via education passed from parents to children. Inthe very ancient times, Brahmins with their mantras seemed to have most of the power. They commanded the most respect because they could get anything people wanted through their mantras; rain, good crop yields, and weapons. Even the movements of materials for the construction of buildings depended upon their mantras. Great sages like sage Satyavarta, sage Durvasa and sage Agastya and others were like the leaders of civilizations the world over. Humans, who were fighting (Kshatriyas) since millions of years ago will have developed strengths in certain areas of their bodies and have mental skills to dodge enemy attacks and to kill when necessary. These abilities can be passed down biologically or through education within families over the ages. The Kshatriyas became the most powerful leaders of society during the next age, with their fighting skills and weapons. During these times, kings like Alexander, King Arthur, Ashoka, Ghengis Khan and numerous others became respected and powerful leaders of society. If entrepreneurial producers (Vaisas), which include most professions of today (engineer, doctors, artisans, businessmen and farmers) descended from ancestors who were entrepreneurs since millions of years ago, they will have the correct skills as negotiators, who constantly weigh the profit potential. In recent times, success in business made people and countries great. Vaisyas have become the most prominent people today. People today respect business leaders like Thomas Edison, Rockefeller, Bill Gates, Micheal Dell and Jack Welch, for what they have accomplished. The instruction-following producers (Sudras – current day factory operators and clerks are in this category) whose ancestors were following instructions will be able to handle the orders given by others. When computerstake over most jobs, it will be the Sudras, who willingly follow instructions of computers the best, who will have the most power. They will be the ones, who can get things done for the rest of the human population. Using their instruction-following skills, they will be the most respected people because they will get people things from computer controlled farms, factories and even construction (food, clothing and shelter). Other people will have to wait on these instruction-followers for their livelihood.

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