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  • Sanatana Dharma Tamil Coexisted in Indus Valley Tamil Towns

    The relationship between Tamil and Sanatana Dharma is intriguing.

    Their relationship is one of cordiality , mutual respect and admiration for each other.

    The Tamil Kings are spoken of highly in the Vedas and Puranas.

    They were invited to the Swayamvara of. Damayanthi, who predates Lord Rama, Rama Sita marriage, Draupadi Swayamvara and Yudhistra’s Rajasuya Yaga.

    Tamil King Udiyan Cherallathan provided food for both the Pandava and Kaurava armies during the Mahabharata War.

    Sananat Dharma spread around he world
    Vedic India

    Madurai Meenakshi’s father Malayathdwaja participated in the Mahabharata war fighting along side the Pandavas.

    Lord Krishna was invited to Tamil Poets ‘Conclave at Madurai(probably the Thenmadurai, now sunk) and he participated in it.

    Krishna and Arjuna married Pandyan Princesses;Krishna had a daughter and had her married to a Pandyan Prince, while Arjuna had a son.

    Krishna’s elder brother Balarama visited south and worshiped Lord Subrahmanya.

    And of course Parashurama, who established the present Kerala.

    Sage Viswamitra’s descendant  Apasthamba wrote the Veda Sutra called Apasthama Sutra by integrating Tamil practices like Thaali, Mangalya, which is not found in the Vedas.

    Brahmins in the south of India follow Apasthamba sutra even today.

    Rama’ ancestor Vaivaswatha Manu migrated from the south to Ayodhya to found Ikshvaku Dynasty.

    Manu migrated to Ayodhya because of a Tsunami recorded in Tamil Classic, Sangam Literature.

    So there should have been no presence of any dynasty in the north if we go by this hypothesis .

    However there was a Chola king, who ruled from North, much before the great Flood.

    He was King Sibi and Cholas call themselves the descendants of Kashyapa.

    This Sibi is mentioned in Tamil Literature  and in Puranas a belonging to Suryavansh.

    He built a temple near Srirangam in Tamil Nadu for Lord Vishnu.

    It is the Thiruvellarai Pundareekakshar temple, about 20km from Srirangam

    Sibi is reported to have fought an army of Asuras here.

    Asuras mean powerful, yet evil intentioned.

    King Sibi ruled from Pakistan?

    And we have a a site of about a Million years in Chennai which belongs to advanced Tamil civilization.

    Another one is at Adhichanallur which dates back to 11000 years.

    Thee site  refer to Sanatana Dharma.

    And Sanatana Dharma refer Tamils!

    Tamil Brahmi is found in Harappa.

    Tamil Sangam period Towns,harbor names are found in Indus Valley Civilization.

    Thee names are.

    Vanji, capital of Chera Kingdom,

    Gorkai, in Afghanistan

    a Pandya harbor, Matrai(Madurai), Urai(Uraiyur capital of Cholas), Koodal kat(kodal, name for Madurai),in Pakistan,

    ‘சிந்துவெளி மற்றும் அரப்பாவில் ”கொற்கை, வஞ்சி, தொண்டி வளாகம்”
    சிந்துவெளியில் சங்கத் தமிழரின் துறைமுகங்கள், தலைநகரங்கள் மற்றும் ஊர்களின் பெயர்கள்
    பாகிஸ்தானிலுள்ள கொற்கை (Gorkai. Gorkhai), வஞ்சி (Vanji), தொண்டி(Tondi), மத்ரை (Matrai), உறை (Urai), கூடல் கட் (Kudal Garh) மற்றும் கோளி (Koli); ஆப்கானிஸ்தானிலுள்ள கொற்கை (Korkay. Gorkay). பூம்பகார் (Pumbakar) ஆகிய ஊர்ப் பெயர்கள் சங்க இலக்கியங்களில் குறிப்பிடப்பட்டுள்ள தலைநகரங்கள் மற்றும் துறைமுக நகரங்களின் பெயர்களான கொற்கை. வஞ்சி. தொண்டி. மதுரை. உறையூர். கூடல். கோழி. பூம்புகார் ஆகியவற்றை நினைவுபடுத்துகின்றன.

    Lord Rama, whose name is found in the  Sumerian King List as a King of Sumer,along with Dasaratha and Bharata, fought a war against Atlantis people to help Horus , on of Osiris,.

    ‘

    Leading Osiris’s Egyptian armies was Osiris’ eldest son Horus. After Osiris’ unfortunate ‘death’, Horus succeeded his father as king of the Libyan/Egyptian Empire. Intuitively, Horus knew what would happen when they landed in Libya. He completely distrusted his uncle. Horus persistently warned his father about Seth’s stubbornness and treachery. Osiris, believing in the goodness of the human heart, initially ignored his son’s advice. Subsequently, Osiris landed in Libya and after Seth’s abdication became Emperor’

    After the demise of Osiris, his son Horus entered into a pact with Rama Empire(Emperor Zata’ar’s eldest son, Prince Rama.) to defeat Seth, the usurper.’

    The Atlantis army met with Rama’s Army in Rishi City, now in Pakistan…..

    There were four ancient empires.

    Rama’s Empire,

    Atlantis Empire,

    Uighur Empire and

    Lemurian Empire.

    Of these Uighur was not very advanced and Lemuria which had been on the wane was trying to recoup.

    They were suppressed by the Atlantis people.

    In the Atlantis, Osiris’ son Horus entered into an alliance with Rama to defeat Seth who was trying to become independent in the Sumerian valley.

    ‘

    Rama Dropped Atom Bomb Mohenjo daro

    This means that Mohenjo Daro was a flourishing civilization before the Rama War with Atlantis people.

    Yet there was a  Chola King much before the advent of Rama.

    ‘

    The contention of Dr Parpola and the Dravidian politicians of Tamilnadu is that Tamils have descended form the IVC locations of North India. The verse by poet Kapilar in fact traces the origins of the King IrungoveL to Dwaraka. He says that he belonged to the 49th generation of the king who was born of the Sacrificial Fire conducted by the sage of the North. This king ruled Dwaraka, so says the poet. Reserving the other details of this verse for a future post, I am now concentrating on another description in that song.

    ( There is another interpretation on the interpretatiion of  the term Sacrificial fire

    Kapilar describes Dwaraka as being surrounded by walls made of copper.

    நீயே, வடபால் முனிவன் தடவினுள் தோன்றிச்,
    செம்பு புனைந்து இயற்றிய சேண்நெடும் புரிசை,
    உவரா ஈகைத், துவரை ஆண்டு,
    நாற்பத்து ஒன்பது வழிமுறை வந்த
    வேளிருள் வேளே!
    This means “O king IrungoveL! you were the 49th king in the lineage of the king, who was born of the sacrificial fire conducted by the sage and ruled Dwarka which was surrounded by long / tall walls of copper.”

    From the commentary that Dr U.Ve.Sa found out form the palm leaf manuscripts :-
    “நீ தான் வட பக்கத்து முனிவனுடைய ஓம குண்டத்தின் கண் தோன்றிச் செம்பால் புனைத்து செய்தாலொத்த சேய்மையை உடைத்தாகிய நெடிய மதிலை உடைய துவராவதி என்னும் படை வீட்டை ஆண்டு, வெறுப்பில்லாத கொடையினை உடையராய் நாற்பத்தொன்பது தலைமுறை தொன்றுபட்டு வந்த வேள்களுள் வைத்து வேளாய்உள்ளாய்!”..

     ‘This king was not in Dwaraka when Kapilar met him and sang this verse. He was ruling some part of the western ghats in present day’s Karnataka. This Vel’s kingdom was different from the Tamil lands of the 3 kings (Chera, Chola and Pandya). The next verse was on the same king sung by Kapilar in which he describes his land in the hills.
    This king’s palace was not surrounded by walls of copper. Copper walls were there in the kingdom of his ancestors in Dwaraka.Assuming that 3 kings lived per century, we can say that 1600 years have passed by the time this 49th king had come into being. The period of this king is not exactly known, but can be deciphered from Kapilar’s other connections. Kapilar was a close friend of another VeL king, Paari who was killed by the 3 Tamil kings. Kapilar took care of Parri’s orphaned daughters and approached another Vel king, IrungoveL to request him to marry the two daughters of Paari. This verse contains that request.

    https://ramanisblog.in/2016/01/28/irungovel-tamil-king-and-hoysalas-founder-the-same/

     So there seems to be a Dynasty belonging to Suryavansh in the North and it declined or swallowed by Tsunami from the Arabian Sea, this could have  either the second or the  first Great flood mentioned in the Tamil Classics.

    And we have references to Sage Agastya, settling the people from the sinking Dwaraka  in Tamil Nadu and the present Karnataka.

    Considering all this I proposed that there could have been two Tamil Empires.

    As t whether Tamils came from the Sanatana Dharma people or vice versa, it is difficult t postulate.

    I am providing an abstract from one theory on this.

    ‘

    Abstract

    Can Sankam corpus, the ancient extant Dravidian literature, be a source to identify the language of the Indus script; a collateral evidence to estimate the ethno-linguistic composition of Indus Civilization? I seek to answer this question in affirmative.

    I have located a group of place names in the Indus –Harappan geographies (modern Pakistan and adjoining regions), which I choose to call as “Korkay, Vanji, Tondi Complex.” This ‘complex’ contains perfect parallels to “Korkai-Vanji-Tondi” and many other geographical names and anthroponyms attested in Sankam Tamil texts.

    I propose that these identical name-heritage complexes of the north-western geographies and the extreme south provide reliable markers for the probable migration of Dravidians following the collapse of Indus Valley Civilization. I call in the evidence of “bone-eating camel” described in Akananooru as a testimony for the earlier presence of Dravidians in the north-western geographies (particularly Gujarat).

    And, I conclude that the Sankam corpus in part represents the ‘carried forward memories’ of a remote past, the coordinates of which can be traced back to the Indus Valley Civilization and late Harappan cultures and relevant geographies.’

    http://new.modernrationalist.com/2013/07/tamil-indus-korkayvanjitondiin-the-north-west-and-a-bone-eating-camel-in-the-cankam-text/

    My view is that there were two cultures, Tamil and Sanatana Dharma coexisting , thugh slightly different in their approach to Life.

    That these two acknowledge their differences yet respected each other i a great lesson for us.

    References and citations.

    https://tamilvaralaru.wordpress.com/2014/12/03/%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%A8%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B5%E0%AF%86%E0%AE%B3%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%8A%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B3%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%A4/

    http://new.modernrationalist.com/2013/07/tamil-indus-korkayvanjitondiin-the-north-west-and-a-bone-eating-camel-in-the-cankam-text/

    https://ramanisblog.in/2016/10/27/two-tamil-empires-in-india-northwest-south-india-missing-history/

     

  • Four Earliest Civilizations Rama Tamil Empires

    I had written on the ancient civilizations of the world.

    The earliest civilizations included the Rama Empire.

    The ancestor of Lord Rama, Vaivaswatha Manu lived in the south,The Dravida Desa.

    He migrated to Ayodhya because of a Tsunami.

    He meditated in a Plateau at the time of the Tsunami which is now in Madagascar.

    Pleased read details  Manu Meditated in Madagascar

    His son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku Dynasty, to which Lord Rama Belongs

    Manu migrated to North

    And in the War with Atlantean people Rama was involved.

    Rama's Empire.
    Rama Empire

    When one cross checks this information with the history of Tamils, Atlantis.,Osiris it clicks.

    There were four ancient civilizations,

    .Lemuria,

    Atlantis,

    Osirian  and

    Ikshvaku.

    The timeline is from 76,000 BC!

    Reference and citation.

    76000 – 24000 B.C. Lemurian Civilization:
    Lemuria was an island which embraced all of present-day Australia, New Zealand, the Philippines, Oceania, western North America, and everything between. It was destroyed by earthquakes and then submerged about 26,000 years ago. Man’s first civilization arose on the continent of Lemuria 78,000 years ago and reached heights so great that our present civilization can barely be considered a civilization when compared to it. Government, religion, and science achieved such perfection as to be far beyond our present comprehension. Western Civilization is only about 2,500 years old and has narrowly survived its power-seeking rulers and priests. Our science and technology are but in their infancy and as yet consist of but relatively few rediscoveries. The religion of Lemuria was established on the laws of the universe by Christ Himself when He ruled Lemuria under the name Melchizedek.

    22500 – 8500 B.C. Atlantean Civilization:
    After the destruction of Lemuria, Atlantis grew to be a great nation, which subsequently proved to be the world’s second-ranking civilization. It flourished for some 14,000 years until its submersion about 10,500 years ago. The name of this nation was Poseid, and it was the offspring of the colony which the Pfrees (overly practical) had originally established.

    The nation of Poseid was inventive far beyond the wildest imaginings of modern scientists. Their fantastically advanced technology afforded consummate leisure, comfort, and a vast abundance of material things. Unfortunately, the people were much too preoccupied with the pursuit of physical pleasures and with the accumulation of luxurious possessions to take advantage of the opportunity to attain citizenship, and this shortcoming ultimately resulted in their downfall. Internal conflict arose when large numbers of Katholis (overly idealistic) deserted their cities in South and Central America and migrated to Poseid in order to escape their savagely warlike neighbors. The Katholi priests set about to bring Poseid under their sway, but they only succeeded in destroying the governmental and economic system which produced the wealth and luxuries they sought to usurp. Civil and religious warfare vexed the land until it submerged beneath the ocean waves.

    When Atlantis sank in a localized earthquake, it left all the rest of the globe impoverished so far as technology was concerned. Nobody else knew how to duplicate that technology; so many of the things that had been used world-wide simply didn’t exist any longer. Even though technology gradually diminished in the rest of the world, they managed to be civilized towards one another. But then 3,000 years after the sinking of Atlantis came a world-wide reapportionment of the land masses.

    5500 B.C. Osirian and Rama Nations:
    The third greatest civilization was the pre-dynastic Egyptian culture, known as Osiris, which was greatly different from the records that we are able to find of the various dynasties. The fourth greatest civilization was the Rama Empire in the Indian sub-continent. The common people in India then had an entirely different philosophy than the educated ruling families who, incidentally, were members of the Brotherhoods.

    The pre-dynastic Egyptian culture was concurrent with the Rama Empire and both were concurrent with the end times of the Atlantean civilization. They were known as the three kings. Atlantis was predominantly a very practical group of people. The people in the Rama Empire of India were much more idealistic than they were either practical or mentally oriented. The Osirian nation was primarily noted for its use of mental techniques in a positive way.

    The ancient Rama Empire in India became the fourth-ranking civilization under a dynasty of enlightened leaders who for a period of several centuries suppressed the priesthood. The Rama regime and predynastic Egypt had both managed to salvage some of their culture after the fall of Atlantis, but the rest of the world was reduced to a condition of brutal struggle for survival. The colonies of the world were irretrievably shut off from the technology of Atlantis, and in a few generations they reverted to a stone age-existence. The few manufacturing facilities not destroyed by world-wide earthquakes and tidal waves soon deteriorated from lack of raw materials to feed them. Stone replaced smelted metals for tools, and all too soon subsequent generations couldn’t believe anything other than stone had ever been used. Egypt and India were precariously spared from the far-reaching upheaval, and their weakened governments gradually succumbed to evil priests and war lords.

    That last reapportionment 7,500 years ago put an end to the Rama Empire in India as well as the Osirian nation in the Mediterranean basin. Today, what we consider ancient history only goes back to about that cataclysm. What we commonly refer to as the “cradle” of civilization in the region of the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers of today, was people coming back to some semblance of civilization and culture.

    http://www.adelphi.com/past_and_future_history/ancient_empires.html

  • Rama Used Atom Bomb Against Atlantis Mohenjo Daro

    Mohenjo-daro reveals  the exposure to Atomic Radiation, possibly caused by an Atomic blast.

    Rama's Empire.jpg
    Rama’s Empire.

    The Brahmastra mentioned in Indian Epics and Puranas is capable of this devastating effect.

    To my knowledge Valmiki does not seem to refer to the  extensive use of Brahmastra in the Valmiki Ramayana.

    The instance  was when Indrajit used it against Hanuman and as Hanuman prayed Brahma( and he had a oon from Brahma as well) it did stun him and he was not killed nor the effects to the environment were devastating..

    ‘◾Vishvamitra used it against Vasishta, but the Brahmastra was swallowed by Brahmadanda, Lord Brahma’s countermeasure against the Brahmastra.
    ◾In the Ramayana a Brahmastra is used by Shri Rama several times: once against Jayanta (Indra’s son) when he hurt Sita, against Mareecha in their last encounter, against the Ocean when he did not answer his prayer to allow his army and himself to cross over to Lanka and finally in the last battle with Ravana.
    ◾It is also mentioned in the Vedas that a Brahmastra was aimed by Shri Rama to carve a path out of the sea so that the army of apes could march towards Lanka, however at that moment, Varuna appeared and told Lord Rama about the technical flaws of using the weapon and hence it was later aimed towards Dhrumatulya by Lord Rama, which fell at the place of modern day Rajasthan causing it to become a desert. Also Indrajit aimed a Bhramastra at Lord Lakshman on the final battle between him and Lord Lakshman, however the deadly weapon returned because Lakshman himself was the avatar of Trinity.(How many times Brahmastra was used)

    Though Brahmastra  was not used other than these instances, there seems to have been evidence of Atomic blast in India, in Mohenjo Daro.

    Moheno Daro Atomic Blast. gif Moheno Daro Blast Victims. imge creditshabharanjagupta,wordpress.com

    The Brahmastra was not used in the area mentioned above in the Ramayana, though this is the place where Kara and Dushana came from.

    Atom Bomb result Mohenjo Daro.jpg
    Moheno Daro atomic Blast. At one site, Soviet scholars found a skeleton which had a radioactive level 50 times greater than normal. Other cities have been found in northern India that show indications of explosions of great magnitude. One such city, found between the Ganges and the mountains of Rajmahal, seems to have been subjected to intense heat. Huge masses of walls and foundations of the ancient city are fused together, literally vitrified! And since there is no indication of a volcanic eruption at Mohenjo-Daro or at the other cities, the intense heat to melt clay vessels can only be explained by an atomic blast or some other unknown weapon. The cities were wiped out entirely. Image subhadraranjangupta.wordpress.com

    They came to Dandakaranya and Rama defeated them.

    So the Mohenjo- Daro area was not a victim of Atomic Bomb.

    Nor was it used in the Mahabharata Times.

    The place in question was called Angsa Desa, of which Karna was the King(Karna was anointed as the King of Anga)

    Given the fact that there had been atomic radiation in Mohenj- Daro, how can we account for it since Rama did not seem to have used it, nor any one in the Mahabharata in the area?

    There seems to me one logical answer to this.

    Lord Rama had conquered the whole of world, I had published the Map of Rama Empire.

    If Rama had annexed these area he had to have won over them.

    If so, whom did he defeat?

    I checked world History, Legends,and Folklore.

    I had my link in Atlantis.

    I published an article on Rama’s War with Atlantis

    and another one,

    Rama Atlantis War Kavatam periplus Port Window of Lemuria

    As explained in these articles, there seems to have been Four major civilizations then.

    Rama’s Empire,

    Atlantis Empire,

    Uighur Empire and

    Lemurian Empire.

    Of these Uighur was not very advanced and Lemuria which had been on the wane was trying to recoup.

    They were suppressed by the Atlantis people.

    In the Atlantis, Osiris’ son Horus entered into an alliance with Rama to defeat Seth who was trying to become independent in the Sumerian valley.

    ‘

    King Atlas (King Of Atlantis) and Prince Osiris (heir to the throne) desired to create secondary domains where they could re-establish the Lemurian Empire . This intention was thwarted by the actions of Osiris’ younger brother, the Emperor Seth. As present ruler of the Libyan/Egyptian Empire (that covered all of Africa), Seth decided that with the fall of Atlantis his Empire (in league with the rebel Sons of Belial) was to be its last stronghold. He made it his goal to re-establish the Atlantean Empire with himself as its all-powerful, ‘divine right’ emperor (of the world).

    ‘conflicting objectives resulted in deadly warfare between Osiris and his brother Seth. Leading Osiris’s Egyptian armies was Osiris’ eldest son Horus. After Osiris’ unfortunate ‘death’, Horus succeeded his father as king of the Libyan/Egyptian Empire. Intuitively, Horus knew what would happen when they landed in Libya. He completely distrusted his uncle. Horus persistently warned his father about Seth’s stubbornness and treachery. Osiris, believing in the goodness of the human heart, initially ignored his son’s advice. Subsequently, Osiris landed in Libya and after Seth’s abdication became Emperor’

    After the demise of Osiris, his son Horus entered into a pact with Rama Empire(Emperor Zata’ar’s eldest son, Prince Rama.) to defeat Seth, the usurper.’

    The Atlantis army met with Rama’s Army in Rishi City, now in Pakistam.

    Now read this.

    Vallmiki ends the Ramayana with Rama’s Coronation, Pattabhisheka and therfore we have no information on Ram’s conquest of the world, after his victory over Ravana.

    In this instance, there are two observations by me.

    Did Rama use Brahmastra?

    In which case the following version does not really support the Atom Bomb theory as Rama seems to have stopped the advancing army by making the army generals drop dead.

    Or was the Astra differnt?

    Or did Rama use his astra as mentioned here(Yogic Posture), after the Atlantis people had used the Brahmastra?

    The latter explanation seems to tally with the state of Mohenjo Daro Radiation.

    I am searching for more information.

    ‘Atlantis Drops A-Bomb on India

    The Lemurian Fellowship (an esoteric group formed in the 1930’s) lessons state:
    During the heyday of Atlantis and Rama, both the Ramayana and the Lemurian Fellowship agree that other advanced civilizations were also in existence. According to the Lemurian Fellowship the Osiris Civilization existed in what is today North Africa and the Mediterranean Basin, and the Uiger Empire ruled over what is today the Gobi Desert. Yet of all of the civilizations, Atlantis and Rama were supposedly the two most developed.

    These two cultures had developed advanced technology, which they shared between themselves and the rest of the world. It had been mainly developed in Atlantis and would seem like science fiction to us today, just as the Ramayana and the Mahabharata seem like science fiction. Not only did they have aircraft such as vimanas and valixi (as the Atlantean craft was called), they had weapons such as fireballs that could destroy a whole city…(etc.).

    According to the Lemurian Fellowship, as Atlantis and Rama reached the height of civilization, war broke out between them. The Atlanteans, a highly technical and war-like culture were bent on conquering the world. Subjugating the Rama Empire was an important step in their plan.

    An interesting episode in the Atlantean history as related by the Lemurian Fellowship involves the Atlanteans sending a well-equipped army to India in order to subjugate the Rama Empire, demanding surrender, tribute and acceptance of Atlantean rulership.

    The Priest-King of Rama stated they didn’t believe in war, and asked them to leave in peace.

    Arrogantly, the Atlanteans did not believe that the Indians had the power to stop them, certainly not by technical means. At dawn, the Atlantean army began their march on the city.
    Sadly, the Priest-King watched the army advance…He raised his arms heavenward and, using a yogi technique, he caused the general and each officer in descending order to drop dead in their ranks, apparently by heart attack. The Atlanteans fled. Of the seige of the Rishi City, not one man from the Rama Empire was lost. (Stranger Than Science, Frank Edwards, 1959).

    The Indian Epics, especially the Mahabharata, pick up the thread of the tale from here and go on to tell of the rest of the horrible story; a story of devasation and destruction. Apparently Atlantis, displeased at it’s humiliating defeat, decided that they were no longer interested in subjugating the Rama Empire, and decided instead to annihilate the major cities using weapons so destructive that the Sanskrit scholars could not comprehend what was being described in the Epics until the dropping of the atomic bombs on Japan.

    These are authentic verses from the Indian Epics:
    “Gurkha, flying a swift and powerful vimana
    hurled a single projectile
    charged with all the power of the Universe,
    An incandescent column of smoke and flame,
    as bright as ten thousand suns,
    rose with all its splendor.

    It was an unknow weapon
    and iron thudnerbolt,
    a gigantic messenger of death,
    which reduced to ashes
    the entire race of Vrishnis and the Andhakas.

    …After a few hours
    all foodstuffs were infected…
    …to escape from this fire
    the soldiers threw themselves in the streams
    to wash themselves and their equipment.”
    The Mahabharata

    “(It was a weapon) so powerful
    that it could destroy the earth in an instant –
    A great soaring sound in smoke and flames –
    And on it sits death..”
    The Ramayana

    Compiled by David Hatcher Childress (A real-life Indiana Jones)
    in conjunction with Sanskrit Scholars

    From a 324 page book, which includes the complete
    translation of the Vimaanika Shastra text.

    “An ancient, heavily populated city in Pakistan was instantly destroyed 2,000 years before Christ by an incredible explosion that could only been caused by an atomic bomb. That’s the mind bogging conclusion of a British researcher, David Davenport, who spent 12 years studying ancient Hindu scripts and evidence at the site where the great city – Mohenjo Daro once stood. What was found at the site of Mohenjo Daro corresponds exactly to Nagasaki, declared Davenport, who published his startling findings in an amazing book, “Atomic Destruction in 2000 B.C.”, Milan, Italy, 1979.

    There was an epicenter about 50 yards wide where everything was crystallized, fused or melted, he said. Sixty yards from the center the bricks are melted on one side indicating a blast. the horrible, mysterious event of 4,000 years ago that leveled Mohenjo Daro was recorded in an old Hindu manuscript called the Mahabharata, “White hot smoke that was a thousand times brighter than the sun rose in infinite brilliance and reduced the city to ashes, the account reads. Water boiled…horses and war chariots were burned by the thousands.. . the corpses of the fallen were mutilated by the terrible heat so that they no longer looked like human beings…”. The description concludes, “it was a terrible sight to see … never before have we seen such a ghastly weapon”.

    Based on his study of many ancient manuscripts, Davenport believes that the end of Mohenjo Daro was tied to a state of war between the Aryans and the Dravidian. Aryans controlled regions where space aliens were mining minerals and exploiting other natural resources, he believes. Because it was a Dravidian city, the aliens had agreed to destroy Mohenjo Daro on behalf of the Aryans. The aliens needed the friendship of the Aryan kings so that they could continue their prospecting and research, explained Davenport. The texts tell us that 30,000 inhabitants of the city were given seven days to get out – a clear warning that everything was about to be destroyed. Obviously, some people didn’t heed the warning, because 44 human skeletons were found there in 1927, just a few years after the city was discovered.

    I shall be writng on the Aliens referred to By Indian Texts with Proof, a series, shortly.

    ** I had written an article earlier on the atomic blast could have been used in the Mahabharatha, based on some other evidence.

    I incline to agree with the view that Rama used the Bomb in Ramayana.

    The issue has to be resolved.

    Citations.

    http://www.alien-ufos.com/ancient-civilizations-archaeology-anthropology/26836-atlantis-drops-bomb-india.html

    http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,33106.0.html

    https://subharanjangupta.wordpress.com/2011/08/07/evidences-of-neclear-explosion-in-mohenjo-daro/

  • Rama Atlantis War Kavatam Periplus Port Window Of Lemuria

    I have recently published an article Rama Atlantis War, where I had mentioned that Seth of Osiris lineage fought with Rama and Rama defeated him, thereby establishing the Rama Empire in Sumeria.

    Lemurian Land of Tamils Tamil Land.The arrow points at Kumari Mountain and the red dot Kapadapuram(Kavata).Image Credit jaysreesaranathan blog, Tamizhanthiravidana blog spot.

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    Atlantis and Lemuria Location.Image credit. alternative research.

    Atlantis Lemuria Location Map.

    Osiris’s son Horus entered into a treaty with Lord Rama to fight against Seth who usurped the Kingdom in Sumeria and Osiris also wanted to check the power of the Lemurians.

    Now Lemuria is called as Kumari Kandam in Tamil Literature and Tamil Literature abounds in Lemuria references.

    Please read my posts on this.

    If Horus and Rama had entered into a pact to defeat Seth and Lemurians, who were Lemurians and in what state had they had been?

    I remembered the description in Tamil of the Kumarikandam especially in the Sangam Literature and their assertion about the city of Kapadapuram, also called as Kavatam.

    ‘According to historians, Kuadam was very close to Tiruchendur. Abraham Pandithar says that Greeks in those days named it as Periplus port’ ( Wiki)

    The Tami land extended from Kapadapuram to Then Madurai.

    The distance is about 7460Kms and the western side the land stretched to Africa!( 700 Katham)

    In this area there were 49 Tamil Kingdoms, called Ezheezh Nadukal( 7*7 countries).

    ‘

    Adiyarkunallar mentions that the lost land extended from Pahruli river in the north to the Kumari river in the South. It was located to the south of Kanyakumari, and covered an area of 700 kavatam (a unit of unknown measurement). It was divided into 49 territories (natu), classified in the following seven categories:

    • Elu teñku natu (“Seven coconut lands”)
    • Elu Maturai natu (“Seven mango lands”)
    • Elu munpalai natu (“Seven front sandy lands”)
    • Elu pinpalai natu (“Seven back sandy lands”)
    • Elu kunra natu (“Seven hilly lands”)
    • Elu kunakarai natu (“Seven coastal lands”)
    • Elu kurumpanai natu (“Seven dwarf-palm lands”)(wiki)

    Many Tamil Hindu shrines have legendary accounts of surviving the floods mentioned in Hindu mythology. These include the prominent temples of Kanyakumari, Kanchipuram, Kumbakonam, Madurai, Sirkazhi and Tiruvottiyur.[8]:57–69 There are also legends of temples submerged under the sea, such as the Seven Pagodas of Mahabalipuram. The Puranas place the beginning of the most popular Hindu flood myth – the legend of Manu – in South India. The Sanskrit-language Bhagavata Purana (dated 500 BCE-1000 CE) describes its protagonist Manu (aka Satyavrata) as the Lord of Dravida (South India). TheMatsya Purana (dated 250–500 CE) also begins with Manu practicing tapas on Mount Malaya of South India.[8]:57 Manimeghalai (dated around 6th century CE) mentions that the ancient Chola port city of Kavirippumpattinam (present-day Puhar) was destroyed by a flood. It states that this flood was sent by the Hindu deity Indra, because the king forgot to celebrate a festival dedicated to him.

    There are refernces in Atlantis legends that the earth had an inner core populated with people.

    “The first is Mother Earth’s inner crust, which is a continuation of the external surface crust. The two Polar Regions each have a large entrance or hole, somewhat like a cored apple, and the crust wraps itself down and around the mantle into the hollow interior. The outer and inner crusts have very similar topography: Both comprise oceans, continents, mountain ranges, lakes, and rivers. It is merely that the inner crust faces the Earth’s core. This core glows and is surrounded by a cloudy veil. The light given off is more diffuse that the light of the Sun, so the daylight in inner Earth is softer and gentler than on the Earth’s external surface. The second main feature of inner Earth is the so-called cavern worlds. These are immense hollows within the mantle, some of which are natural features created by Mother Earth, while others were made using the advanced technology of inner Earth’s major society, the land of Aghartha. This land is the last living remnant of Earth’s second Galactic Federation colony, Lemuria.

    Lemuria, in her original form, was a surface society with a subterranean component. The primary capital city was situated on the large island that sank beneath the waves of the Pacific some 25,000 years ago. A secondary capital city was located in inner Earth. It was to this city that the government of Lemuria moved after the cataclysm. The new ruler of the surface, the Empire of Atlantis, ordered the major tunnel entrances to be sealed. It was only during the final days of Atlantis that the Lemurians broke these seals and thus saved many surface dwellers from certain death. These people formed a society that subsequently returned for a time to the surface and became the Rama Empire situated in Southern Asia. Then the Great Flood of 8,000 BC ended this attempt to save humanity from the dark ways of the Anunnaki. Despite this setback, Lemuria persisted in her role of protecting the surface world from these havoc-wreaking rapscallions. It was her galactic emissaries that maintained membership for this solar system in the Galactic Federation.

    After the Great Flood and the demise of the Rama Empire, the Lemurians regrouped and named their newly combined society Aghartha. The capital Shamballah was relocated to a cavern located far beneath the city of Lhasa in modern Tibet. Many tunnels connect Shamballah to the surface in the Himalayas. These were used by holy men who came to spread their great energy and divine wisdom to the outside world. In this area, an extraordinary place was kept for special occasions, where holy men and their chosen disciples met in order to maintain Mother Earth’s sacred energy grids. This work, together with numerous rituals performed daily throughout inner Earth, is largely responsible for keeping alive the divine energy that is Lemuria’s main legacy to the surface peoples of Mother Earth. Lemuria, and later on Aghartha, have continuously held the Light for your transformation back into fully conscious Beings of Light.”( Source. http://www.paoweb.com/sn020706.htm)

    The term Kapatam means Window.

    Probably the reference in the Atlantis legend means Kapadapuram when they say Lemurians emerge from the sea.

    The Kapadapuram was established by  a Tamil Pandya King .

    ‘With this loss of the large territories of the Pandiya country and the demise the Paandiya king Kadungkon, the next successor to Paandiyan throne was the king Paandiyan Nediyoan. This king escaped the great disaster and moved more towards the north and captured many new regions including parts of Chera and Chola countries and made them into a new Pandiyan country.

    He distributed the captured lands to his subjects who met the loss of their own lands but possibly escaped this great tragedy, made him get the title “Nilam Tharu Thiruvit Pandiyan” (which means: “the Pandiyan who made the kind gesture of lands”) and as “Nilam Tharu Thiruvit Nediyoan”.

    The Paandiyan king Nediyon built his new capital city at Kapaadapuram (Kavaadam) closer to the sea. The Paandiyan king with a view of preventing further sea disasters had a festival in celeberation for the Sea God, and hence he was known as “Munneer Vilavu Nediyon” (Munner Vilavu = Sea (God) celeberation) and also as “Vadivalamba nintra Paandiyan”.

    He also excavated a new artificial river named “Pahruli Aaru” flowing through the city of Kapaadapuram towards the sea of the Indian Ocean possibly to make the region fertile and self sufficient in water.

    He also re-organised the Second Thamil Sangam at Kapaadapuram and as an initial measure requested the renowned Tamil Poet of the period the Tholkaappianaar to compose a new Tamil Grammer, as the original Tamil Grammer composed during the period of first Thamil Sangam by the great Poet Agaththiyar known as Ahaththiyam, apparently was lost in the great Land Slide in which the first capital city ‘Then Mathurai’ (South Mathurai) also known as “Naan maadak Koodal” went under sea.

    (Source.  http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthread.php?9994-A-brief-study-on-the-Pandiyas-(Paandiyar)-of-the-quot-Second-Sangam-quot-Period-of-Tamil-Nadu)

    “. The new ruler of the surface, the Empire of Atlantis, ordered the major tunnel entrances to be sealed. It was only during the final days of Atlantis that the Lemurians broke these seals and thus saved many surface dwellers from certain death. These people formed a society that subsequently returned for a time to the surface and became the Rama Empire situated in Southern Asia. Then the Great Flood of 8,000 BC ended this attempt to save humanity from the dark ways of the Anunnaki.”

    The Atlantis people’ sealing the Lemurians’ probably means the Mascarene plateau.

    Lemuria existed south of this plateau, which was consumed by the sea about 6000 years ago.

    The surfacing of Rama dynasty may indicate the fact that Satyavrata Manu ancestor of Rama had migrated to Ayodhya(whose son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku Dynasty) and the subsequent emergence of Lord Rama and His Kingdom.

    One may note that the Ramayana and the Puranas call the Tamil areas as Dravida, meaning South, Dasyu, meaning who do not follow all the percepts of Sanatana Dharma( though they were practicing Sanatana Dharma they were not Fire (Agni) worshipers),and Viswamitra banished his sons to the south directing them to go to the Dasyu Land.

    Normally this area has been taken as stretching from the Vindhyas, but due to the emergence of the Fact about Mascarene Plataeu , the reference may be to Manscarene plateau

    To sum up,

    The Lemurians (Tamils) were in existence during the Ramayana Period,

    Their land was extended to Then Madurai from Kapadapuram.

    They were a part of the Rama Empire,

    the Tamil Timeline is,

    1. Mathivanan, then Chief Editor of the Tamil Etymological Dictionary Project of the Government of Tamilnadu, in 1991 … the following timeline …:ca. 200,000 to 50,000 BC: evolution of “the Tamilian or Homo Dravida”,
      ca. 200,000 to 100,000 BC: beginnings of the Tamil language
      50,000 BC: Kumari Kandam civilisation
      20,000 BC: A lost Tamil culture of the Easter Island which had an advanced civilisation
      16,000 BC: Lemuria submerged
      6087 BC: Second Tamil Sangam established by a Pandya king
      3031 BC: A Chera prince in his wanderings in the Solomon Island saw wild sugarcane and started cultivation in Tamilnadu.
      1780 BC: The Third Tamil Sangam established by a Pandya king
      7th century BC: Tolkappiyam (the earliest extant Tamil grammer)…

    The continent was destroyed by three large floods which wiped out most of the golden civilization with it:

    Source. http://thelostcontinent-kumarikandam.blogspot.in/

    • Inputs welcome.

    Ref.

    http://thamizhan-thiravidana.blogspot.in/2011/03/46-2.html

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  • Rama’s War With Atlantis Ramayanas Missing Chapter

    As the facts mentioned in the Ramayana by Valmiki, stand the test of available resources, Astronomy dating,Carbon dating, literary evidences from both internal and external,etymology of the words , cultural practices being practiced throughout the world, I take Valimiki seriously because of description of landmarks around the world, including the Nazca Lines of Peru, Vaikanasa Theertha in Russia, now called Baikal and many more references.I have written on all these.

    Now One finds the name of Lord Rama, Dasaratha and Bharatha in Sumerian Kings List.

    And there are Rama remains throughout the world.

    Please check my pots on these.

    I have, sometime back published an article Rama’s Empire Covered the world

    One nagging doubt I had.

    If Rama had conquered the world and established his Kingdom, whom did he defeat to gain these areas?

    And how come Rama’s name is found in the Sumerian Kings list.

    There was another powerful group of Kings in India, south of the Vindhyas.

    Rama' Empire.jpg
    Rama’ Empire.

    They were treated as Dasyus since the Vedic period, rebels who though following Sanatana Dharma, were not strict follower of all Vedic thought.

    Yet cordiality existed between the Tamils and the Sanatana Dharma people of the North.

    Yet Rama does not seem to have sought the help of these powerful Kings in his fight against Ravana.

    As a matter of record Ravana concluded a peace treaty with a Pandya King(read my post here )

    Why did Rama choose the Vanaras,despite the fact that the Tamil Kings had cordial relationship with Ikshvaku Dynasty and these Kings were present in the Swayamvara and marriage of Rama with Sita?

    In fact, Rama’s ancestor Satyavrata Manu, father of Ikshvaku, the founder of Ikshvaku dynasty was from the south and migrated to North before the great flood.(read my post here)

    There seems to have been some issues between Rama Empire and the Tamils in between the time, the Tamil kings attending the Swayamvara and the defeat of Ravana.

    Contrary to misinformation Rama though hailed from Ayodhya was originally from South and a part of Lemuria.

    Why , then Rama, should be alienated from the Lemurians, other than Ravana?

    Ravana as not in good terms with the Tamil kings as he repeatedly attacked Pandya Kingdom at Madurai and was defeated..

    He sued for peace and entered into a treaty with the Pandya king.

    So, considering the later empire of Rama throughout the world, could there be some global reasons to this ?

    The answer to this has to found in the empire of Rama and the kings he had defeated to establish His empire.

    I searched.

    As Rama’s name has been found in the Sumerian King List, I checked Mesopotamia and Sumeria back ground.

    We find Sanatana Dharma remains in these areas,not restricted to Rama alone.

    There were three civilizations since 30,000 years ago.

    ‘

    30,000 BC

    First Illuminatus, Gruad, rules in Atlantis.

    15,000 BC

    Tiahuanaco, the height of the Lemurian remnant, begins construction.

    12,000 BC

    Indian country of Rama existed. Remains of their large cities still exist in the deserts of India and Pakistan (Mohenjodaro). Indian texts from this period tell of anti-gravity space ships called Vimanas, or Astras, and a war with the Atlanteans on the moon. Curiously, Soviet scientists have discovered what they call “age-old instruments used in navigating cosmic vehicles” in caves in Turkestan and the Gobi Desert. The “devices” are hemispherical objects of glass or porcelain, ending in a cone with a drop of mercury inside. Some ancient Indian texts describe a war with Atlantis (who flew Vailixi machines) using flying machines and atomic bombs.,,

    King Atlas (King Of Atlantis) and Prince Osiris (heir to the throne) desired to create secondary domains where they could re-establish the Lemurian Empire . This intention was thwarted by the actions of Osiris’ younger brother, the Emperor Seth. As present ruler of the Libyan/Egyptian Empire (that covered all of Africa), Seth decided that with the fall of Atlantis his Empire (in league with the rebel Sons of Belial) was to be its last stronghold. He made it his goal to re-establish the Atlantean Empire with himself as its all-powerful, ‘divine right’ emperor (of the world).

    ‘conflicting objectives resulted in deadly warfare between Osiris and his brother Seth. Leading Osiris’s Egyptian armies was Osiris’ eldest son Horus. After Osiris’ unfortunate ‘death’, Horus succeeded his father as king of the Libyan/Egyptian Empire. Intuitively, Horus knew what would happen when they landed in Libya. He completely distrusted his uncle. Horus persistently warned his father about Seth’s stubbornness and treachery. Osiris, believing in the goodness of the human heart, initially ignored his son’s advice. Subsequently, Osiris landed in Libya and after Seth’s abdication became Emperor’

    After the demise of Osiris, his son Horus entered into a pact with Rama Empire(Emperor Zata’ar’s eldest son, Prince Rama.) to defeat Seth, the usurper.

    This new Indus river civilization allowed Horus to establish a temporary chain of powerful fortress cities in the Sinai. Thus, Horus was able to attack Seth’s forces and later kill Seth in a mighty battle.

    And when forces attacked Rama at Rishi Valley , they were defeated by Rama.

    Thus for service rendered Rama go the territories in Sumeria.

    Valmiki  concludes the Ramayana with the coronation of Rama and nothing more is heard of him later from Indian sources (at least to my knowledge) except extolling Rama’s virtues and reading Ramayana

    Knowing Valmiki for his graphic details and narration of facts, in my opinion, he would not left this information.

    As there are many versions of Ramayana, we might have lost a chapter detailing  Rama’s empire.

    This could have been before Rama’s departure from this world

    And there followed the first( or second) Great flood after Rama’s period, as recorded in world literature.

    I shall be writing on the Rama Atlantis War in detail.

    Citations.

    http://www.phils.com.au/dot-0.htm

    http://www.speakingtree.in/forum/a-missing-chapter-in-the-ramayana

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