Category: Tamils

  • Democratic Temple Administration By Cholas

    I have written about the Democratic process  followed by the Chola Kings to elect ,members for administering villages.

    Though a Monarchy Tamil Kings of ancient times followed the principles of democracy by having elected representatives t run day to day administration of the country.

    The Minster were appointed by the king.

    Tanjore Big Temple.image.jpg
    Thanjavur Big Temple

    This council  looked after the executive aspects, including  security , finance and foreign affairs.

    To advise this group, a Committee was in place.

    It was called Enperaayam, that is a council of Eight, who were learned men nominated y the King.

    This council also served as a sort of sounding board and at time a an Appellate Court in dispensing with Justice..

    The Village formed the core of administration.,

    Village council was democratically elected  ballot.

    Please read my article on this.

    Each village had a member assigned with a specific task, like digging Canals(Karai Velalar, a  sub caste of Velalar, velalar means one who manages water resources), maintaining the Tank bund,Local finance man(Grama Dhanadhikari).

    This micro management was  replicated at  the center at the capital , with corresponding officers for the functions.

    For the management of temples, the Village had three committees.

    1. Committee consisting of Brahmins.

    2.Velalars and others.

    3.Traders.

    Decisions about the temple management were taken either by a group or all the groups in consultation with the others.

    There were three officials for the running of the temple administration.

    1.Sree Karyam, general administration with special responsibility to Finance.

    2.Devakanmigal.for ensuring the pooja details and festivals are conducted properly.

    3.Maakeswaras for carrying out all the other works.

    These officials formed a part of the administrative group mentioned at the beginning of the article.

    The meetings of the councils were conducted in Temple premises or the Theatre for performing Arts.

    These details are available in Epigraph of Tamil Nadu temples.

    The people of the village also participated in the meetings.

    Epigraph at Thiruvidaimaruthur Temple, near Kumbakonam, details this process.

    Dates on which these meeting were held are also found in the epigraph.

    There is no definite evidence of the existence of a council to ministers or of other officers connected to the central government, though the names of individual ministers are found in the inscriptions. A powerful bureaucracy assisted the king in the tasks of administration and in executing his orders. Due to the lack of a legislature or a legislative system in the modern sense, the fairness of king’s orders dependent on the goodness of the man and in his belief in Dharma – sense of fairness and justice. The ancient society did not expect anything more than general security from the government. Even matters of disputes went to the officers of the court only as the last

    Bureaucracy.

    The Chola bureaucracy did not differ much from its contemporaries. However, what distinguished it was its highly organised nature. A careful balance between central control and local independence was maintained and non-interference in local government was sacrosanct.

    There was a definite hierarchy of the bureaucracy and the tenure of the officials simply dependent on the ‘Crown’s pleasure’. The officials held various titles such as Marayan and Adigarigal . Seniority between the same cadre was indicated by qualifying title such as Perundanam and Sirutanam.

    One of the important such officers were the Revenue officials responsible for the receipts and expenditures of the government.

    Administrative divisions

    Every village was a self-governing unit. A number of such villages constituted a Korram (கொற்றம்) or nadu (நாடு) or Kottam (கோட்டம்) in different parts of the country. Taniyur (தனியூர்) was a large village big enough to be a Kurram by itself. A number of Kurrams constituted a Valanadu (வளநாடு). Several Valanadus made up one Mandalam, a province. At the height of the Chola empire there were eight or nine of these provinces including Sri Lanka.These divisions and names underwent constant changes throughout the Chola period.

    An inscription of the eighth century CE at Uttaramerur temple describes the constitution of the local council, eligibility and disqualifications for the candidates, the method selection, their duties and delimits their power. It appears that the administration of a common village Ur(ஊர்) or Oor was different from that of a village given to Brahmins.

    Audits

    The activities of the officials of the bureaucracy were under constant audit and scrutiny. We have an example of such reports in an inscription from the reign of Uttama Cholawhich gives us the details of the remissness and neglect of some officials in the delay of recording a particular grant. As a result a dispute arose between contending parties as to who should benefit from the grant. The officials involved were punished.

    As the head of the civil administration, the king himself occasionally toured the country and carried out inquests into the local administration.

    Revenue administration

    An extensive resurvey was done around 1089 CE by the Chola king Kulottunga, recording the extents of lands and their assessment, boundaries of villages and the common rights inside the village, including the communal pastures.

    Revenue officials were responsible for the tax collection. The Chola government was very mindful of the need for the fair and accurate collection of tax to run the state machinery. The revenue records were not manuals of extortion, but a carefully maintained records of land rights, based on complete enquiried and accurate surveys, and were kept up-to-date by regular surveys.

    The duties of revenue officials included many other spheres of responsibilities. They also regulated receipts and expenditures of temples. They were also seen to purchase land on behalf of village assemblies. They attested and certified important documents drawn up by local government agencies such as village councils. They were also shown to act as magistrates.

    Besides the tax collected by the central government, several local bodies enjoyed the privilege of collecting tolls and other imposts.

    Justice

    Justice was mostly a local matter in the Chola Empire, where minor disputes were settled at the village level. The punishments for minor crimes were in the form of fines or a direction for the offender to donate to some charitable endowment. Even crimes such as manslaughter or murder were punished by fines. Crimes of the state such as treason were heard and decided by the king himself and the typical punishment in such cases was either execution or confiscation of property. The people had to agree to the king in these situations, no matter what.

    Village assemblies exercised large powers in deciding local disputes. Small committees called Nyayattar heard matters that did not come under the jurisdiction of the voluntary village committees. The punishments in most cases were in the form of donations to the temples or other endowments. The convicted person would remit their fines at a place called Darmaasana. There is not much information available on the judicial procedures or court records.

    There was no distinction between civil and criminal offences. Sometimes civil disputes were allowed to drag on until time offered the solution. Crimes such as theft, adultery and forgery were considered serious offences. In most cases the punishment was in the order of the offender having to maintain a perpetual lamp at a temple. Even murder was punished with a fine. In one instance a man had stabbed an army commander. Rajendra Chola II ordered the culprit to endow 96 sheep for a lamp at a neighbouring temple.

    Capital punishment was uncommon even in the cases of first-degree murder. Only one solitary instance of capital punishment is found in all the records available so far.

    Reference and citations.

    http://www.varalaaru.com/design/article.aspx?ArticleID=1262

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chola_government#Council_of_Ministers

     

  • Lemuria Population 64 Millions?

    Lemuria , the sunken continent in the Indian Ocean, which has been considered as a Myth/ legend has made people look up at new evidence.

    The recent map floor by NASA shows anamolies,

    mumap2
    LOCATION  of Mu civilization.
    Kumarikandam map the sunken continet
    Kuamrikandam,Lemuri map the sunken continet

     

    The Aborigines of of Australia see to have an unknown Genes,

     

    The findings at Poomouhar, Tamil Nadu, the thriving Port city mentioned in Tamil Sangam Classics,Greek Historians, Hindu puranas date it back to 20, 000 years.

    Please read my article on this.

    Australian aborigines oerform, even today, the Tri Netra (third eye) Dance of Shiva, one of the Trinity of Hinduism.

    Theese Aborigines wear Shiva and Vishnu Religious marks .

    Sage Agastya is found in New Zealand and he was worshiped there.

    The Mu people livedcaround the periphry of this area.

    The Mu people were a part of the Tamils.

    The Tamil literature speaks of the land south where the first Tamil kings ruled.

    It had forty nine lands.

    IT had over 40 mountain peaks.

    It had therre major rivers.

    They were an advanced civilisation and they had conclave of Poets, called Sangam.

    These Tamil texts and Puranas  state that Lord Krishna attended this Conclave.

    A million year old site belonging to Advanced Tamil civilization has been found near Chennai, Tamil Nadu , in the south of India.

    Thiruvannamalai, Tamil Nadu is dated at 3.94Billion Years, Tirupati Andhra Pradesh,2100 million years and Jwalapuram Cuddappah in Andhra Pradesh at 75000 years ago.

    Tamil ancestry has been found in central and siuth Americas and they celebrate Tamil festivals.

    I have provided evidence on these points in my articles on each of these points.

    Then there  are the statues in the Easter Island which are yet to be explained.

    The directions they face the Navagrahas mentioned in Hinduism.

    There are various  theories on Lemuria.

    That it represents a higher level of Beings on a different plane of Existence,

    Aliens landed and lived there,

    Aliens antered the DNA.

    The Lemuria was a Tamil land indeed and it sunk, as described in Tamil and foreign records as great flood.

    I shall be examining each theory on the basis of available evidence.

    That Lemuria existed and had a population of 64 Millions is proposed

     

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    Anglo-American explorer, James Churchward was a close friend of Auguste and Alice Le Plongeon. James Churchward, in books such as The Lost Continent of Mu (1931), wrote that the Motherland stretched from the Hawaiian Islands to Fiji and from Easter Island to the Marianas.

    Churchward wanted an ancient civilization of his own, and using Le Plongeon’s doubtful methodology set about ‘discovering’ one. His findings were set down in the five main volumes of the Mu series published in from 1926 – 1931. The basic premise was by studying various ancient texts Churchward had discovered the existence of a long lost continent with an advanced civilization that approximately 60,000 years earlier had sunk below the Pacific Ocean after a cataclysmic earthquake. Sixty-four million people allegedly died. The Hawaiian Islands and the Pacific Islands are the remaining mountain peaks of the lost continent.

    Reference and citation.

    http://lost-civilizations.blogspot.in/2008/05/lemuria-rise-and-fall-of-lemurian.html?m=1

     

     

  • Lemuria Size 34 Million Square Miles Details Evidence

    There is skepticism about the lost continent of Lemuria.

    However there are extensive references to Lemuria in Tamil Literature of the Sangam Period .

     

    Kumarikandam map the sunken continet
    Kuamrikandam,Lemuri map the sunken continet

    Image credits.

    For this and the third map down .

    http://igreenis.egloos.com/m/10986014

    Multiple ancient and medieval Tamil and Sanskrit works contain legendary accounts of lands in South India being lost to the ocean. The earliest explicit discussion of a katalkol (“seizure by ocean”, possibly the sea water rise) of Pandyan land is found in a commentary on Iraiyanar Akapporul. This commentary, attributed to Nakkeerar, is dated to the later centuries of the 1st millennium CE. It mentions that the Pandyan kings, an early Tamil dynasty, established three literary academies (sangams). The first two sangams were not located in South India now but in an ancient Tamil country in the south which then sank. The first sangam flourished for 4,400 years in a city called Tenmaturai, attended by 549 poets (including Agastya) and presided over by gods like Shiva, Kubera and Murugan. The second sangam lasted for 3,700 years in a city called Kapatapuram, attended by 59 poets (including Agastya, again). The commentary states that both the cities were “seized by the ocean”, resulting in loss of all the works created during the first two sangams. The third sangam was established in Uttara (North) Madurai, where it is said to have lasted for 1,850 years. The Pandyan capital of Kapatapuram finds mention in the Ramayana and Chanakya’s Arthasastra (ca 4th century BCE).

    Atlantis map
    Atlantis boundaries. Plato. Tectonic boundary

    Nakkeerar’s commentary does not mention the size of the territory lost to the sea. The size is first mentioned in a 15th-century commentary on Silappatikaram. The commentator Adiyarkunallar mentions that the lost land extended from Pahruli river in the north to the Kumari river in the South. It was located to the south of Kanyakumari, and covered an area of 700 kavatam (a unit of unknown measurement). It was divided into 49 territories (natu), classified in seven categories: elu teñku natu(“seven coconut lands”), elu maturai natu (“seven mango lands”), elu munpalai natu(“seven front sandy lands”), elu pinpalai natu (“seven back sandy lands”), elu kunra natu (“seven hilly lands”), elu kunakarai natu (“seven coastal lands”) and elu kurumpanai natu (“seven dwarf-palm lands”).’

    Map of Lemuria
    Lemuria map with mountains, Rivers.

     

     

     

    ‘Multiple ancient and medieval Tamil and Sanskrit works contain legendary accounts of lands in South India being lost to the ocean. The earliest explicit discussion of a katalkol(“seizure by ocean”, possibly tsunami) of Pandyan land is found in a commentary on Iraiyanar Akapporul. This commentary, attributed to Nakkeerar, is dated to the later centuries of the 1st millennium CE. It mentions that the Pandyan kings, an early Tamil dynasty, established three literary academies (Sangams): the first Sangam flourished for 4,400 years in a city called Tenmaturai, attended by 549 poets (including Agastya) and presided over by gods like Shiva, Kubera and Murugan. The second Sangam lasted for 3,700 years in a city called Kapatapuram, attended by 59 poets (including Agastya, again). The commentary states that both the cities were “seized by the ocean”, resulting in loss of all the works created during the first two Sangams. The third Sangam was established in Uttara (North) Madurai, where it is said to have lasted for 1,850 year’

    Consider the following facts.

    1..The Vedas mention Tamil kings and goods like Sandalwood,Pearls having been imported from Dravida Desa, Dravida means Sooth.

    2.Vaivswatha Manu, the first of the present  Kali Yuga,  meditated  in  plateau near Madagascar  before migrating to Ayodhya.

    3.Ancestor of Rama, Nala visited Thirunallaru, Pondicherry. .

    The temple at Thirunallaru is dedicated to Shani, Saturn and is a place where one goes on Pilgrimage to ward off Saturn’s malfeasance.

    Nala visited  the Pond in the temple, called Nala Theertha to ward off Saturn’s effects.

    Nala Theertha is still there at Thirunallar and people follow the same tradition is followed even to day.

    4.Mahabharata refers to Nala having visited the place in the Vana Parva.

    5.Tami kings were present  in the Swayamvra of Damayanti, who later became the wife of Nala.

    6.Tami Kings were present in Sita’s and Draupadi’s Swayamvara.

    7.Madurai Meenakshi’s father fought along side the Pandavas in the Mahabharata battle.

    8.Tamil King Udiyan Cheralaathan fed both the Pandava’s and the Kaurva Army in Mahabharata war.

    9.Lord Krishna, Arjuna, Balarama,Sahadeva were on a Pilgrimage to south.

    10.Tamil Kings were present in Yudhitra’s Rajasuya Yaaga.

    11.Shiva and Subrahmanya were worshiped widely  in the south much before than the Sanatana Dharma .

    12.Patanjali who founded the Yoga System learned it from Lord Shiva/Agastya from the south.

    12.Sage Agastya  who is considered as a co founder of Tamil along with Lord Shiva and Subrahmanya (called as Murugan in Tamil) is found in New Zealand.

    13.Maoris and other aboriginal tribes  still speak a corrupted form of Tamil.

    14. Australian Tribes perform Shiva’s Trinetra dance even today.

    15.Tamil ancestry has been found among the Mu, Sumerian civilizations.

    16.Lord Ram waged a War against Atlantis when an atom bomb was dropped in Mohenjadaro.

    You may read detailed article on each of these by googling the search term +ramanan 50.

    Now to the size of Lemuria,

    Lemuria  was located to the south of Kanyakumari, and covered an area of 700 kavatam, staes Nakkerar in his commentry of Iraiynar Agapporul.

    Irayanar refers to Lord Shiva.

    This work belongs to Sangam Era of Tamil and is lost ans known by its reference to it in the later Tamil works.

    The distance from Kanykumari to Zealand is   11.204 Km.

    Kanyakumari To New Zealand Distance – 11223 Km 880 Mtrs http://www.distancesbetween.com/flight-distance/distance-from-kanyakumari-to-new-zealand/21327/ic4/

    In miles it is 7002.

    One Kavatam is equivalent to 10 Miles and seven Hundred Kavatam is 7000 Miles .

    Lemuria extended from North to South from Kanykumari to new Zealand, 7000 Miles!

    From the East to West.

    ‘There have been numerous locations picked for Atlantis, from Sweden to Indonesia. Nearly all of them are wrong. Plato was quite clear on the location. All of the others are, by definition, not Atlantis. According to Timaeus and Critias, the two dialogues which are the source of the Atlantis story, the lost island was beyond the Strait of Gibraltar, in the Atlantic Ocean. The nearest portion of Atlantis was facing a region in Southwestern Spain called Gadira. This is the region surrounding modern Cádiz (Phoenician Gadir, Roman Gades and Moorish Qādis). Most claimants ignore this very specific detail from Critias”

    That is , from to Spain, the outer most reach of Atlantis towards East to Kanykumari is,

    4941 Miles.

    (The air travel (bird fly) shortest distance between Spain and India is 7,951 km= 4,941 miles. http://www.distancefromto.net/distance-from-spain-to-india

    So the size of sunken Lemuria could have been 7000* 4941, that is  34,587,000 Square  Miles.

    References and citations.

    https://atlantisjavasea.com/tag/kapatapuram/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumari_Kandam

    http://missionatlantis.com/atlantis-articles/atlantis-geology.php

    http://bharatuntoldstory.tumblr.com/post/79358239754/lemuria-continent-kumari-kandam-the-lost-ancient

     

  • Two Tamil Empires In India Northwest, South India? Missing History

    I have written articles in detail about the Kings of India, as listed in the Puranas and other Sanskrit texts of India.

    Kings List of India by Puranas Vaidated

    I have also listed the Kings List of Tamil from 400 BC 

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    Lord Krishna married a Pandyan Princess and had a daughter whom he married her off to a Pandyan Prince.

    Arjuna married a Pandyan Princess from Manalur Tamil Nadu and had a son.

    Tamil Chera King Perunchotru Udiyan Neduncheralathan fed both Pandava and Kaurava army during the Mahabharata Battle..

    Sahadeva and Balarama  were on a Pilgrimage to South and Balarama worshiped Lord Subrahmanya in Tamil Nadu.

    Parashurama established the present Kerala.

    One issue intrigued me.

    We had the Mahabharata War, there was a deluge later and Dwaraka was submerged.

    Sage Agastya took families from Dwaraka and had them settled in what is now Karnataka and those who had settled in Tamil Nadu were called ‘Velirs’ and they had small Kingdoms in places like what is now called Krishnagiri and Dharmapuri.They took sides between the Cheras, Cholas and Pandyas depending on the exigencies.

    Kanndigas from Yadava Tribe

    This would imply, at the time of the Tsunami which devoured Dwaraka, these people were moved by Agastya to South.

    The same Tsunami, called as ‘kadalkol’ in Tamil devoured the South as well.

    This Tsunami, incidentally is the third to strike the South, according to Tamil Literature and this is validated by foreign Flood legends and archaeology..

    Now the issue is if people were moved from Dwaraka and settled in Tamil Nadu, it should have been after the Tsunami died down.

    Then what happened to the Tamils living in the south during the period just before the Tsunami?

    Where did they go?

    The references to Tamil kings are found in the Ramayana which mention them as belonging to earlier period than Rama.

    To be specific Tamil Kings were present in Damayanti Swayamvara.

    There is Nala Theertha, a sacred pond where people take bath to be rid of Saturn, Shani’s influence, like Sade Saathi,seven and a half years.

    The pond is in Thirunallar, Pondicherry and is famous for Shani temple.

    Shiva worship preceded  in south even  before Vedic Period.

    While Subrahmanya and  Shiva merit only a limited mention in the Vedas, they are the principle Deities in the Dravida Desa.

    And there was a Tamil Kingdom, Elamite, now the term has become corrupted to be Elam.

    The Elamite people lived around the present Iran and spoke a Language which has been traced to Tamil.

    And some tribes in Iran speak this language which resembles Tamil even today!

    The Tamils were referred to as Dramila in Vedic texts.

    The Mediterranean Peoples (Dravidians)

    (Extracts from ‘The Original Indians — An Enquiry’ by Dr. A. Desai)

    How the Mediterranean people came to be called Dravidians makes interesting story. The Pre-Hellenistic Lycians of Asi Minor, who where probably the Mediterranean stock called themselves Trimmili. Another tribe of this branch in the island of Crete was known by the name Dr(a)mil or Dr(a)miz. In ancient Sanskrit writings we find the terms Dramili and Dravidi, and then Dravida which referred to the southern portion of India.

    South India was known to the ancient Greek and Roman geographers as Damirica or Limurike. Periplus Maris Erithroei (Periplus of the Eritrean Sea) in the second or third century AD described the maritime route followed by Greek ships sailing to the South Indian ports: “Then follow Naoura and Tundis, the first marts of Limurike and after these Mouziris and Nelkunda, the seats of government.â€

    Dramila, Dravida and Damirica indicated the territory. Then it was applied to the people living in the territory and the language they spoke, in the local parlance Tamil and Tamil Nadu or Tamilakam.’ https://2ndlook.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/dravidian-history-no-one-talks-about/

    Later texts speak of them as Dravida?

    Sibi ruled from Pakistan

    Not to forget the fact that Vaivaswatha Manu , ancestor of Rama lived in the south and moved to Ayodhya after the Tsunami.Please read my article   on this.

    Is there a subtle message here?

    Yes,

    This accounts for the missing chapters in Tamil and  Bharatvarsha History and this would reconcile the seeming inconsistencies in Indian History.

    Detailed article follows

     

  • Four Earliest Civilizations Rama Tamil Empires

    I had written on the ancient civilizations of the world.

    The earliest civilizations included the Rama Empire.

    The ancestor of Lord Rama, Vaivaswatha Manu lived in the south,The Dravida Desa.

    He migrated to Ayodhya because of a Tsunami.

    He meditated in a Plateau at the time of the Tsunami which is now in Madagascar.

    Pleased read details  Manu Meditated in Madagascar

    His son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku Dynasty, to which Lord Rama Belongs

    Manu migrated to North

    And in the War with Atlantean people Rama was involved.

    Rama's Empire.
    Rama Empire

    When one cross checks this information with the history of Tamils, Atlantis.,Osiris it clicks.

    There were four ancient civilizations,

    .Lemuria,

    Atlantis,

    Osirian  and

    Ikshvaku.

    The timeline is from 76,000 BC!

    Reference and citation.

    76000 – 24000 B.C. Lemurian Civilization:
    Lemuria was an island which embraced all of present-day Australia, New Zealand, the Philippines, Oceania, western North America, and everything between. It was destroyed by earthquakes and then submerged about 26,000 years ago. Man’s first civilization arose on the continent of Lemuria 78,000 years ago and reached heights so great that our present civilization can barely be considered a civilization when compared to it. Government, religion, and science achieved such perfection as to be far beyond our present comprehension. Western Civilization is only about 2,500 years old and has narrowly survived its power-seeking rulers and priests. Our science and technology are but in their infancy and as yet consist of but relatively few rediscoveries. The religion of Lemuria was established on the laws of the universe by Christ Himself when He ruled Lemuria under the name Melchizedek.

    22500 – 8500 B.C. Atlantean Civilization:
    After the destruction of Lemuria, Atlantis grew to be a great nation, which subsequently proved to be the world’s second-ranking civilization. It flourished for some 14,000 years until its submersion about 10,500 years ago. The name of this nation was Poseid, and it was the offspring of the colony which the Pfrees (overly practical) had originally established.

    The nation of Poseid was inventive far beyond the wildest imaginings of modern scientists. Their fantastically advanced technology afforded consummate leisure, comfort, and a vast abundance of material things. Unfortunately, the people were much too preoccupied with the pursuit of physical pleasures and with the accumulation of luxurious possessions to take advantage of the opportunity to attain citizenship, and this shortcoming ultimately resulted in their downfall. Internal conflict arose when large numbers of Katholis (overly idealistic) deserted their cities in South and Central America and migrated to Poseid in order to escape their savagely warlike neighbors. The Katholi priests set about to bring Poseid under their sway, but they only succeeded in destroying the governmental and economic system which produced the wealth and luxuries they sought to usurp. Civil and religious warfare vexed the land until it submerged beneath the ocean waves.

    When Atlantis sank in a localized earthquake, it left all the rest of the globe impoverished so far as technology was concerned. Nobody else knew how to duplicate that technology; so many of the things that had been used world-wide simply didn’t exist any longer. Even though technology gradually diminished in the rest of the world, they managed to be civilized towards one another. But then 3,000 years after the sinking of Atlantis came a world-wide reapportionment of the land masses.

    5500 B.C. Osirian and Rama Nations:
    The third greatest civilization was the pre-dynastic Egyptian culture, known as Osiris, which was greatly different from the records that we are able to find of the various dynasties. The fourth greatest civilization was the Rama Empire in the Indian sub-continent. The common people in India then had an entirely different philosophy than the educated ruling families who, incidentally, were members of the Brotherhoods.

    The pre-dynastic Egyptian culture was concurrent with the Rama Empire and both were concurrent with the end times of the Atlantean civilization. They were known as the three kings. Atlantis was predominantly a very practical group of people. The people in the Rama Empire of India were much more idealistic than they were either practical or mentally oriented. The Osirian nation was primarily noted for its use of mental techniques in a positive way.

    The ancient Rama Empire in India became the fourth-ranking civilization under a dynasty of enlightened leaders who for a period of several centuries suppressed the priesthood. The Rama regime and predynastic Egypt had both managed to salvage some of their culture after the fall of Atlantis, but the rest of the world was reduced to a condition of brutal struggle for survival. The colonies of the world were irretrievably shut off from the technology of Atlantis, and in a few generations they reverted to a stone age-existence. The few manufacturing facilities not destroyed by world-wide earthquakes and tidal waves soon deteriorated from lack of raw materials to feed them. Stone replaced smelted metals for tools, and all too soon subsequent generations couldn’t believe anything other than stone had ever been used. Egypt and India were precariously spared from the far-reaching upheaval, and their weakened governments gradually succumbed to evil priests and war lords.

    That last reapportionment 7,500 years ago put an end to the Rama Empire in India as well as the Osirian nation in the Mediterranean basin. Today, what we consider ancient history only goes back to about that cataclysm. What we commonly refer to as the “cradle” of civilization in the region of the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers of today, was people coming back to some semblance of civilization and culture.

    http://www.adelphi.com/past_and_future_history/ancient_empires.html