Category: Tamils

  • Early Sanskrit Grammar Before Panini By Agastya? Tholkaapiyar

    Early Sanskrit Grammar Before Panini By Agastya? Tholkaapiyar

    The relationship between Sanskrit and Tamil is interesting.

    Both of them are quiet ancient and each quote the other,leaving one stranded in his efforts to find which preceded the other.

    While there are similarities between Sanskrit and Tamil,there are also striking differences between the two in their Grammar and Spoken Form

    Shall write in detail on this.

    Now I have come across reference in the first Grammar Book of Tamil,dated around 3000 BC,about Tamil Grammar and Sanskrit Grammar. ( I date Tamil much earlier)

    As mentioned earlier,there are vital differences between Tamil and Sanskrit Grammar.

    The Sanskrit Grammar was codified by Panini, around 400 BCE.

    It is called Ashtadyayi.

    However the earlier Grammar was a part of Vedangas(limbs of the Vedas).

    That was called Vyakarana.

    Panini and Yaska, two celebrated ancient scholars of Vyakarana, are both dated to several centuries prior to the start of the common era, likely the 5th-century BCE.However, both of them cite prior scholars and texts, which though lost to history, imply that the field of Vyakarana was an established and developed science of language before them'( wiki- vyakarana)

    Panini did not found Sanskrit Grammar,he codified it.

    There are references that there were Ten Grammar works before Panini.

    Panini refers these Grammarians.

    ‘Apisali, 

    Kasyapa, 

    Gargya, 

    Galava, 

    Cakravarmana,

     Bharadvaja, 

    Sakatayana, 

    Sakalya, 

    Senaka and 

    Sphotayana.’ (  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vyākaraṇa )

    Tholkappiyam,the Tamil Grammar was written by Tholkappiyar.

    He says in Tholkaapiyam ,while describing himself as the author of Tholkappiyam,that he leant Vedas from his Guru,Preceptor,who was a learned Brahmin.

    He adds that there was a Grammar Work called ‘Aindhiram’.

    And as Tholkappiyar’s Guru was a Scholar of Vedas,which is in Sanskrit, is it that Aindhiram is a Sanskrit Work?

    Agastya could not have written Aindhiram in Tamil as the First Tamil Grammar Agathiyam was by Agastya,which has been lost?

    Why write two books on the same subject?

    Or ,as Agastya is a schloar in both Tamil and Sanskrit,Aindhiram could be in Tamil?

    I am unable to answer,as Tholkappiyar is not specific about the Language of Aindhiram.

    It can be taken as a Tamil work, as Tholkaapiyar says that he is embarking on Tamil Grammar Work?

    On the other hand,the term Aindhiram/n is the Thathidaanda form of Sanskrit Grammar.

    Janaka’s daughter is Janaki,

    Dasaratha,s son is Dasarathy(Rama)

    In the same vein Aindhiram is after Indra,? Indra,Aindhira?

    This ,of course,is lost.

    Tholkappiyar says that he had studied the ‘Aindhiram’ in detail.

    As Tholkappiyar has learnt this from his Guru,A Brahmin,who was well versed in the Vedas.

    அறம் கரை நாவின் நான்மறை முற்றிய‌

    அதங்கோட்டு ஆசாற்கு அரில் தபத் தெரிந்து
    மயங்கா மரபின் எழுத்து முறை காட்டி
    மல்கு நீர் வரைப்பின் ஐந்திரம் நிறைந்த‌
    தொல்காப்பியன்
     எனத் தன் பெயர் தோற்றிப்
    பல் புகழ் நிறுத்த படிமையோனே..

    ‘Me,Thokappiyan,who learnt the Aindhiram Grammar,which describes the functions and rules Word’

    நிலம் தரு திருவின் பாண்டியன் அவையத்து
    அறம் கரை நாவின் நான்மறை முற்றிய‌
    அதங்கோட்டு ஆசாற்கு அரில் தபத் தெரிந்து,’

    ‘I have learnt this from the one,who is well versed in The Vedas,in the presence of a Pandyan King’

    Who this Guru could be?

    Who else ,but Agastya,the Sage who straddles Sanskrit and Tamil.

    Apart from other works,Agastya,

    He and his wife Lopamudra are the celebrated authors of hymns 1.165 to 1.191 in the Sanskrit text Rigveda and other Vedic literature.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agastya

    He is credited with founding Tamil language with Lord Shiva,during First Tamil Sangam.

    Agastya was a Siddha and produced innumerable treatises on Yoga,Science,Metaphysics in Tamil

    His primary disciples were,

    Bhogar,

    Therayar, and

    Tholkappiyar.

    Rishi Agastya is considered as the first and foremost Siddha (knowledge and accomplishments),

    and therefore the guru of many Siddhars. Another name for Rsi Agastya is Kurumuni (short muni). Rishi Agastya made pioneering contributions to the field of Ayurveda (alternative medicine) and Jyotish (Vedic Astrology particularly Nadi Astrology). Rishi Agastya lived for over 5000 years, and one of his medicinal preparations, Boopathi Kuligai, was so powerful that it could even bring the dead back to life. Two of his disciples were Therayar and Tholkappiar carried this knowledge forward for him.’


    (http://blessingsonthenet.com/indianculture/sections/37/maharishi-agastya)

    It is probable that the earlier Grammar,Aindhiram, was written by Agastya and Tholkappiyar learnt it from Agastya.

    And this work could be a Grammar in Sanskrit.

    There is a poem,which ascribes Aindhiram to Lord Shiva.

    This can be seen in the featured image of this article.

    Mamuni Maayon can also refer Lord Shiva.

    Shiva is reported to have founded Tamil Language with Agastya.

    The Tholkapiyam Poem .

    வட வேங்கடம் தென் குமரி

    ஆயிடைத்
    தமிழ் கூறும் நல் உலகத்து
    வழக்கும் செய்யுளும் ஆயிரு முதலின்
    எழுத்தும் சொல்லும் பொருளும் நாடிச்
    செந்தமிழ் இயற்கை சிவணிய நிலத்தொடு
    முந்து நூல் கண்டு முறைப்பட எண்ணிப்
    புலம் தொகுத்தோனே போக்கு அறு பனுவல்
    நிலம் தரு திருவின் பாண்டியன் அவையத்து
    அறம் கரை நாவின் நான்மறை முற்றிய‌
    அதங்கோட்டு ஆசாற்கு அரில் தபத் தெரிந்து
    மயங்கா மரபின் எழுத்து முறை காட்டி
    மல்கு நீர் வரைப்பின் ஐந்திரம் நிறைந்த‌
    தொல்காப்பியன்
     எனத் தன் பெயர் தோற்றிப்
    பல் புகழ் நிறுத்த படிமையோனே..

    *There is another view.

    ‘Aindhiram is an ancient book on the science of vasthu sathra and tamil grammer – connected with Tholkappiyam  .It had two volumes.Unfortunately the volume one which deals with the phenetics of tamil grammer associated with Tholkappiyam (this volume of book was called ‘ANIDRA’) is lost in the course of history ,all that is remaining with us is an scientific book on vasthu sathra.

    Who is Mamumi Mayan?
    Mamuni mayan was a famous sidhar ,multi talented geek ,architect , ancient scientist  and the author of Aindhiram..he appears in Ramayana and Mahabharatha also..he is the son of Diti and Kashyapa (a sabdhamaharishi)..Mayan was very close with pandiya king and helped him build the Pandiya mahasabha (which was supposed to be so grand with lot of cool interiors ,it was one of the testimony of Pandiyas excellence in architecture-and the brain behind that brilliance was Mamuni Mayan…if I am right this mahasabha was destroyed by some invader ) 
    P. S. Mayan was the father in law of Ravana, father of Mandodari…’

    Mamuni Maayon can also refer Lord Shiva.

    Shiva is reported to have founded Tamil Language with Agastya.

    https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-mystery-that-our-ancient-literary-work-Aindhiram-ஐந்திறம்-reveals-to-us )

  • Cholas Ancestors of Rama?

    The genealogy of Manu is very interesting.

    Manu is reported to be the first Man.

    Hence the name Manusha(Sanskrit),Manithan(Tamil), Man (English).

    Manu meditated in Madagascar while a Tsunami struck and His son Ikshvaku left for Ayodhya with his sons.

    His son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku dynasty ,the Solar Dynasty , to which Lord Rama belongs.

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    But what happened to Manu’s daughters?

    A detailed research reveals interesting information.

    Manu had a daughter Ila.

    She was married to Chandra,Moon and the offspring was Budha.

    While many versions of the tale exist, Ila is usually described as a daughter or son of Vaivasvata Manu and thus the sibling of Ikshvaku, the founder of the Solar Dynasty. In versions in which Ila is born female, she changes into a male form by divine grace soon after her birth. After mistakenly entering a sacred grove as an adult, Ila is either cursed to change his/her gender every month or cursed to become a woman. As a woman, Ilā married Budha, the god of the planet Mercury and the son of the lunar deity Chandra (Soma), and bore him a son called Pururavas, the father of the Lunar dynasty. After the birth of Pururavas, Ilā is transformed into a man again and fathered three sons.

    In the Vedas, Ilā is praised as Idā (Sanskrit: इडा), goddess of speech, and described as mother of Pururavas. ‘

    She begot a son Pururavas.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ila_(Hinduism)https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ila_(Hinduism)

    Hence the descendants of this Dynasty were called the Lunar Dynasty, Chandra Vamsa.

    The Kuru Dynasty of Mahabharata,which was named after one of the ancestors.

    Manu had a grand daughter through his daughter called Dakshina,one meaning of the term is South.

    It is probable that she was the founder of the Lunar Dynasty , she was also called Ila.

    Ila’s son was called Ellalan,who ruled the south.

    Ellalan in Tamil means ‘one who rules the boundaries’

    He was a king of the present Sri Lanka.

    Mahavamsa of Sri Lanka records that he was a Chola and a noble king.

     

    He was also called as Manu Needhi Chola, A Chola King in Dravida Desa.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellalan

     

    Now there is the famous Emperor Sibi who belonged to Solar Dynasty.

     

    His date preceds Rama’s.

    ‘The words “Kumari Kandam” first appear in Kanda Puranam, a 15th-century Tamil version of the Skanda Purana, written by Kachiappa Sivacharyara (1350-1420).[3] Although the Tamil revivalists insist that it is a pure Tamil name, it is actually a derivative of the Sanskrit words “Kumarika Khanda”.The Andakosappadalam section of Kanda Puranam describes the following cosmological model of the universe: There are many worlds, each having several continents, which in turn, have several kingdoms. Paratan, the ruler of one such kingdom, had eight sons and one daughter. He further divided his kingdom into nine parts, and the part ruled by his daughter Kumari came to be known as Kumari Kandam after her. Kumari Kandam is described as the kingdom of the Earth. Although the Kumari Kandam theory became popular among anti-Brahmin anti-Sanskrit Tamil nationalists, the Kanda Puranam actually describes Kumari Kandam as the land where the Brahmins also reside, where Shiva is worshipped and where the Vedas are recited. The rest of the kingdoms are described as the territory of the mlecchas.[5]

    He ruled from the north and conquered the south, defeating his maternal cousins.

    This is recorded in the Temple history of Thiruvellarai, temple dedicated to Lord Vishnu as Pundarikaksha.

    Please read my detailed article on this.

    This Vishnu temple is older than Sri Rangam Ranganatha Temple in Tamil Nadu.

    Ramayana records that Vibhishana requested the Idol of Lord Ranganatha from Lord Rama and though Rama gave him, Vishnu,Ranganatha stayed back at Sri Rangam, where He faces Sri Lanka.

    So the Cholas were the ancestors of Rama and not the other war around.

    (I have written earlier that Cholas were descendants of Rama. As this blog is research oriented I write as I come by evidence. So there is updation and clarification and there is no contradiction.)

    Considering the facts,

    ‘Manu left for the North because of A Tsunami

    Tamil is an ancient language of India which runs parallel to Sanskrit.

    A Million year old site found near Chennai records an advanced Tamil civilization.

    The sunken harbor of Poompuhar, Tamil Nadu, which is spoken of in detail in the Tamil Epic Cilappadikaram,is dated 20,000 years ago..

    Such an old culture refers to Sanskrit and Sanskrit in turn refers to Tamil.

    Then there is Sage Agastya who is present both in Tamil and Sanskrit.

    So is Sage Valmiki who is considered to be a Siddha and has written poems in Tamil.

    Such an intimacy between Sanatana Dharma and Tamils, yet there are differences though they present a unified picture!

    This has been a question I have been seeking  an answer to.

    The fact that Manu was from the South, Dravida.

    • One has to remember that the landmass in those ancient days was different and it has no relevance to what we call as North or South India now…

    Lord Rama refused to fight against the Lemurians while he was fighting the Atlantis people saying that Lemurians were his ancestors,

    Ravana,s ancestors Malyavan and Kubera were also from the area we now call as Lemuria

    https://ramanisblog.in/2016/11/10/dravida-lunar-culture-founded-by-ila-manu-daughter-ikshvaku-dynasty/

    It may be noted that,

    Shiva worship  in the Dravida desa  preceded Vedic  period,

    The Tamils though a part of Sanatana Dharma , their methods of worship of Shiva was different,

    The Siddha system and Yoga pre date Patanjal’s Yoga Sutra.

    The influence of Tamil mode of worship in fareastern countries is greater than Vishnu worship.

     

    It stands to reason to postulate thar the Cholas preceded Ramayan and this can also be confirmed by the fact tha Tamil Kings were present during Damayanti’s Swayamvar.

    Nala and Damayanti predate Rama.

    One may also note thar there is Ila people in Zambia.

    A tribe in Cameroon still speak Tamil.

    Hittie civilization has its in Tamils.

    The genealogy of Manu dynasty .

    Maitreya said: Svāyambhuva Manu begot three daughters in his wife Śatarūpā, and their names were Ākūti, Devahūti and Prasūti.

    SB 4.1.2: Ākūti had two brothers, but in spite of her brothers, King Svāyambhuva Manu handed her over to Prajāpati Ruci on the condition that the son born of her be returned to Manu as his son. This he did in consultation with his wife, Śatarūpā.

    SB 4.1.3: Ruci, who was very powerful in his brahminical qualifications and was appointed one of the progenitors of the living entities, begot one son and one daughter by his wife, Ākūti.

    SB 4.1.4: Of the two children born of Ākūti, the male child was directly an incarnation of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and His name was Yajña, which is another name of Lord Viṣṇu. The female child was a partial incarnation of Lakṣmī, the goddess of fortune, the eternal consort of Lord Viṣṇu.

    SB 4.1.5: Svāyambhuva Manu very gladly brought home the beautiful boy named Yajña, and Ruci, his son-in-law, kept with him the daughter, Dakṣiṇā.

    SB 4.1.6: The Lord of the ritualistic performance of yajña later married Dakṣiṇā, who was anxious to have the Personality of Godhead as her husband, and in this wife the Lord was also very much pleased to beget twelve children.

    SB 4.1.7: The twelve boys born of Yajña and Dakṣiṇā were named Toṣa, Pratoṣa, Santoṣa, Bhadra, Sānti, Iḍaspati, Idhma, Kavi, Vibhu, Svahna, Sudeva and Rocana.

    SB 4.1.8: During the time of Svāyambhuva Manu, these sons all became the demigods collectively named the Tuṣitas. Marīci became the head of the seven ṛṣis, and Yajña became the king of the demigods, Indra.

    SB 4.1.9: Svāyambhuva Manu’s two sons, Priyavrata and Uttānapāda, became very powerful kings, and their sons and grandsons spread all over the three worlds during that period.

    SB 4.1.10: My dear son, Svāyambhuva Manu handed over his very dear daughter Devahūti to Kardama Muni. I have already spoken to you about them, and you have heard about them almost in full.

    SB 4.1.11: Svāyambhuva Manu handed over his daughter Prasūti to the son of Brahmā named Dakṣa, who was also one of the progenitors of the living entities. The descendants of Dakṣa are spread throughout the three worlds.’

    http://vanisource.org/wiki/SB_4.1:_Genealogical_Table_of_the_Daughters_of_Manu

    Please read my articles on Daksha in Antarctica.

  • PETA Killed Animals Attacks People Terrorist Links Full Story

    ‘Nathan Winograd insists that PETA’s kill rate is due not to poor management but to “something more nefarious.”

    Image of PeTA animal rights groups
    The PETA animal rights group record

    PETA, the animal rights group, is one of the pettitioners, though not the original one,has been vociferous in the call for banning Jallikkattu, one of the symbols of the Tamils, whose History is as old as Ramayana and the Vedas.

    It is time people know about these paragons of virtue who take up the cause of Animals.

    Of course they have a programme Vagan Diet,promoting vegetarianism and it discourages meat eating.

    Well one should find out which corporate engaged in vegetable products is also involved in this.

    Am providing a news item from The Atlantic on how PETA killed animals.

    I do not want to add my comments, the news story is enough.

    PETA Treatment of animals
    Treatment of animals by PETA and Tamils

    In 2011, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) behaved in a regrettably consistent manner: it euthanized the overwhelming majority (PDF) of dogs and cats that it accepted into its shelters. Out of 760 dogs impounded, they killed 713, arranged for 19 to be adopted, and farmed out 36 to other shelters (not necessarily “no kill” ones). As for cats, they impounded 1,211, euthanized 1,198, transferred eight, and found homes for a grand total of five. PETA also took in 58 other companion animals — including rabbits. It killed 54 of them.

    These figures don’t reflect well on an organization dedicated to the cause of animal rights. Even acknowledging that PETA sterilized over 10,500 dogs and cats and returned them to their owners, it doesn’t change the fact that its adoption rate in 2011 was 2.5 percent for dogs and 0.4 for cats. Even acknowleding that PETA never turns an animal away — “the sick, the scarred and broken, the elderly, the aggressive and unsocialized…” — doesn’t change the fact that Virginia animal shelters as a whole had a much lower kill rate of 44 percent. And even acknowledging that PETA is often the first to rescue pets when heat waves and hurricanes hit, that doesn’t change the fact that, at one of its shelters, it kills 84 percent of supposedly “unadoptable” animals within 24 hours of their arrival.

    When I contacted PETA for a comment on these numbers, Amanda Schinke, a spokesperson for the organization, sent a thoughtful and detailed response. In it she explained how “euthanasia is a product of love for animals who have no one to love them.” She called their killing a “tragic reality,” one that forthrightly acknowledges how “sometimes [animals] need the comfort of being put out of their misery — a painless release from a world in which they were abused and unwanted.” Noting that PETA, unlike many “no-kill” shelters, turns no animal away, Schinke added, “we do everything in our power to help these animals.” The harsh reality behind the grim numbers, she noted, should never be forgotten: “Millions of homeless animals are euthanized in animal shelters and veterinary offices across America because of simple math: too many animals and not enough suitable homes.”

    But is this really a simple math problem? Nathan Winograd doesn’t think so. Winograd, a Stanford Law graduate and former corporate lawyer, is the author of Irreconcilable Differences: The Battle for the Heart and Soul of America’s Animal Shelters. When the data on PETA dropped, he posted a scathing article insisting that the organization’s almost 100 percent kill rate was due not to laziness or poor management but to “something more nefarious.” Winograd asserts that PETA’s failure to find homes for impounded companion animals is the result of founder Ingrid Newkirk’s “dark impulses.” Performing a virtual psychological vivisection, Winograd diagnoses Newkirk as a “disturbed person,” a “shameless animal killer,” and the executrix of a “bloody reign” of terror over dogs and cats. At one point, he even compares her to nurses who get a thrill from killing their human patients.’

    Source.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/03/petas-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-history-of-killing-animals/254130/

     

    PETA’ s violence againt people, terrorist links and medical group.

    Excerpt from https://www.activistfacts.com/organizations/21-people-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals  below.

    Source Library & Additional Information

    • Click here for audio and video of PETA officers and other animal rights extremists.
    • Click here to see PETA’s cash donation to the terrorist Earth Liberation Front.
    • Click here to see $70,000 in PETA grants to a convicted animal-rights arsonist.
    • Click here to see the money trail between PETA and its phony “physicians committee” front group.
    • Click here to learn about PETA’s hypocritical practice of killing thousands of animals.

    Amidst the dozens of animal rights organizations, PETA occupies the niche of — in Newkirk’s own words — “complete press sluts.” Endlessly seeking media exposure, PETA sends out dozens of press releases every week.

    In the past, PETA has handled the press for the Animal Liberation Front (ALF), a violent, underground group of fanatics who plant firebombs in restaurants, destroy butcher shops, and torch research labs. The FBI considers ALF among America’s most active and prolific terrorist groups, but PETA compares it to the Underground Railroad and the French Resistance. More than 20 years after its inception, PETA continues to hire convicted ALF militants and funds their legal defense. In at least one case, court records show that Ingrid Newkirk herself was involved in an ALF arson.

    PETA has even begun to adopt the tactics of an ALF offshoot known as SHAC (Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty). This group is notorious for taking protests outside the boardroom and into the living room, attacking their targets at their homes.

    In 2001, three masked SHAC members brutally bludgeoned a medical researcher outside his home in England. The lead attacker was arrested and sentenced to three years in prison. A few months later, SHAC attacked another research industry employee on his doorstep with a chemical spray to his eyes, leaving him temporarily blinded and writhing in pain. The following year, Newkirk was asked her opinion of SHAC in the Boston Herald. Her response? “More power to SHAC if they can get someone’s attention.”

    By 2003, PETA activists had adopted SHAC’s protest techniques, stalking and harassing fast-food restaurant executives. Not content to write letters and picket the chain restaurant’s offices, PETA’s leaders met with the CEO’s pastor, and visited his country club and the manager of one of his favorite restaurants. PETA activists, one dressed in a chicken suit, even protested at the church of two executives, annoying worshipers by driving a truck with giant screens of slaughterhouse video back and forth along the street.

    In an effort to win more media exposure, PETA has adopted the counter-intuitive tactic of buying stock in restaurant and food companies that serve and sell meat. After buying just enough shares to qualify, PETA’s pattern is to introduce shareholder resolutions that would require animal-rights-oriented practices in the way animals are handled and slaughtered.

    PETA’s goal as a shareholder, of course, is not to turn a profit. Its resolutions, if passed, would increase the cost of doing business and lower the value of everyone’s investment. The group has claimed that it’s “not trying to remove meat from the menu.” But with a stated long-term goal of “total animal liberation,” pushing for animal-welfare changes is just a first step. PETA’s short-term goals are to economically cripple these companies, force them to increase the retail price of meat, and nudge consumers toward eating less of it.

    PETA collected almost $29 million in donations in 2004 alone, but few donors understand exactly where their money is going. During the past ten years, PETA has spent four times as much on criminals and their legal defense than it has on shelters, spay-neuter programs, and other efforts that actually help animals.

    PETA’s Problems

    From both a moral and a legal standpoint, there are far too many objectionable things about PETA to list here in detail. But the following list is a good start:

    1) PETA is not an animal welfare organization.

    PETA spends less than one percent of its multi-million dollar budget actually helping animals. The group euthanized (killed) more than 1,900 animals in 2003 alone — that’s over 85 percent of the animals it received. In fact, from July 1998 through the end of 2003, PETA killed over 10,000 dogs, cats, and other “companion animals” at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. That’s more than five animals every day.

    On its 2002 federal income-tax return, PETA claimed a $9,370 expense for a giant walk-in freezer, the kind most people use as a meat locker or for ice-cream storage. But animal-rights activists don’t eat meat or dairy foods. So far, the group hasn’t confirmed the obvious — that it’s using the appliance to store the bodies of its victims.

    2) PETA assaults common decency.

    PETA’s leadership has compared animal farmers to serial killer (and cannibal) Jeffrey Dahmer. They proclaimed in a 2003 exhibit that chickens are as valuable as Jewish Holocaust victims. They announced with a 2001 billboard that a shark attack on a little boy was “revenge” against humans who had it coming anyway. They have branded parents who feed their kids meat and milk “child abusers.” In 2002 PETA organized a campaign to sabotage a popular Thanksgiving hotline, which provides free advice about cooking turkeys. The group has even contemplated (literally) dancing on the grave of Kentucky Fried Chicken’s Colonel Sanders. And in 2003, PETA president Ingrid Newkirk wrote to Yasser Arafat, pleading with him to make certain no animals are harmed in Palestinian suicide-bombing attacks.

    3) PETA peddles its “animal liberation” food agenda through a medical front group that pretends to offer objective nutritional advice.

    A group misleadingly named the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM) has duped the press into believing that it is an association of conscientious doctors promoting good nutrition. In fact, it is a PETA front group. PCRM and PETA share money, offices, and staff. The American Medical Association calls PCRM a “pseudo-physicians group,” has demanded that PCRM stop its “inappropriate and unethical tactics used to manipulate public opinion,” and argues that PCRM has been “blatantly misleading Americans” and “concealing its true purpose as an animal ‘rights’ organization.”

    Taking a page out of PETA’s press book, PCRM has labeled U.S. school lunches “weapons of mass destruction” because they include meat and milk. PCRM’s president, a psychiatrist named Neal Barnard, recently duped Newsweek into covering his “study” (of seven people) supposedly demonstrating that a vegan diet helped prevent type-2 diabetes. In 2002, PCRM was cited in major newspapers more than 550 times. It was identified as an animal-rights organization in only a handful of those cases.

    4) PETA exploits sick people.

    PETA famously suggested that drinking milk causes cancer, in an advertisement mocking then-NYC Mayor Rudy Guliani with the words “Got Prostate Cancer?” PETA has also erected a billboard reading: “Got Sick Kids? Drinking milk contributes to colic, ear infections, allergies, diabetes, obesity, and many other illnesses.” In 2003 the group held a demonstration in front of a Toronto-area hospital that was under a SARS-related quarantine, spuriously alleging that animal husbandry has something to do with the epidemic’s spread. Upon hearing that Charlton Heston had fallen ill with Alzheimer’s Disease, Ingrid Newkirk suggested that PETA would “toy with the idea that both Alzheimer’s and CJD [Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease] are related to meat consumption.” According to a profile in The New Yorker, she considered “renting billboards that would display a large picture of a gaunt Charlton Heston foaming at the mouth.”

    5) PETA propagandizes children.

    PETA’s website for kids puts a skull and crossbones next to the logo of Disney’s Animal Kingdom and tells the horror story of a fast food restaurant employee who “had taken a patty into the potty with her, then returned and said she had peed on it.” It hands out trading cards to kids that allege drinking milk will make them fat, pimply, flatulent, and phlegm-ridden. PETA also has a child-themed website, and a kiddie-oriented magazine, called GRRR! Kids Bite Back. The name is significant, as it is intended to prep children to identify with the Animal Liberation Front (ALF), which has long-used the phrase “bite back” in its promotional materials. In fact, as early as 1991, convicted ALF arsonist and PETA grantee Rodney Coronado was calling his own crime spree “Operation Bite Back.” PETA also sends “humane education lecturer” Gary Yourofsky into high schools — and even middle schools — to promote the “animal liberation” agenda. Yourofsky is a convicted ALF criminal who has said he would support burning down medical research labs even if humans were trapped in the flames.’

    Some Sources:

    PETA Killed 95% Of Pets In Its Care In 2011, Watchdog Group Charges
    At PETA’s shelter, most animals are put down; group calls them mercy killings
    Are No-Kill Shelters Good for Cats and Dogs?
    PETA Finds Itself on Receiving End of Others’ Anger
    The Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act
    PETA Takes Heat over Claims it Killed 90% of Animals Dropped off at Virginia Shelter
    PETA killed more than 1,600 cats and dogs at its Virginia headquarters last year – almost 90% of the animals handed over to the charity’s American shelter

    Some source from Gunaamuthan from facebook.

    Reference for the above and image of Respect for Bulls by Tamils and by PETA.

    http://www.aapview.com/who-is-this-peta-what-they-do-to-your-animals/

  • Tamils Ancestors Of Australian Tribes?Linguistic Phonetic Evidence.

    Tamils Ancestors Of Australian Tribes?Linguistic Phonetic Evidence.

    I have writeen about the Tamils’connection to Australia and how Lemuria could have relevance to it.

    The landmass of Lemuria encompassed Australia aswell.

    The Dravidians, meaning people from the south were the people who inhabited these areas.

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    The MU people were in the periphery of Lemuria,some consider  that to be different landmass and they were a part of Tamils.

    The Tamil Classics speak of Tamil Poets’Conclave, there were three in number,called Tamil Sangam in ancient times.

    One of these Sangams was conducted in Thenmadurai and it was located in the west of Australia and the landmass covered Indonesia as well.

    The Australian Boomerang was a Tamil Weapon.

    Please read my articles on thce in every Five 5000 years.

    Shiva was worshiped as a Prtimary Deity in Dravida Desa even before the Sanatana Dharma.

    Australian aborigines perform the Shiva’s Trinetra Dance, The Third Eye Dance even today.

    DNA eveidence also links the Dravidians to Australia.

    Agastya is found in New Zealand.

    Agastya Star, Star Canopus has a special significance to New Zealand Tribes.

    This Star is visible in the southern latitudes once in 5000 years.

    There are other pointers to the fact that the Tamils were the ancestors of Australian tribes.

    One such is  linguistic and phonetic study.

    I am quoting excerpts from a research paper below which strengthens the case that the Tamils were the ancestors of the Australian tribes.

    I shall advance arguments further from the evidence of Nishada Kindoms of India shortly.

    Perhaps most similar to Australian languages are the Dravidian languages of southern India. Tamil, for example, has five places of articulation in a single series of stops, paralleled by a series of nasals, and no fricatives (thus approaching the Australian proportion of sonorants to obstruents of 70% to 30%). Approaching the question from the opposite direction: according to the latest WHO data on the prevalence of chronic otitis media (Acuin 2004:14ff), Aboriginal Australians have the highest prevalence in the world – 10-54%, according to Coates & al (2002), up to 36% with perforations of the eardrum. They are followed – at some distance – by the Tamil of southern India (7.8%, down from previous estimates of 16-34%) to develop.
    – Andrew Butcher
    Genetic Evidence for Australian Aboriginals were Dravidians
    The experiments were regarding the early coastal migration of human beings to Australia . Because, according to our theory, the first time man migrated from Africa was to Australia . India proved a critical turning point for us as genetic testing of isolated Indian populations produces a key genetic marker [one of the genetic changes] linking India as a crossroad for the journey of man to both Australia and Central Asia. So we were looking in the south of India because most Indian scientists said that the oldest population in India stayed in south India . And we found out in our experiments that these people were Dravidians.
    Reference and citation.
    Spencer Wells, Phd
  • Antarctica Land of Daksha Dhanavas?

    I have written quite a few articles on Lemuria,MU people who were the ancestors of the Incas,Atlantis ,Daksha, father in law of Shiva and the spread of Sanatana Dharma throughout the world.

    The one striking differnce between the Satana Dharma that was present in the west of India and towards the east to Australia and Newzealand.

    Lemuria Continent
    Lemuria continent and Mu

    While the finds in the west,beyond the middle east ,affirm the presence of Sanatana Dharma with the presence of Shiva,Ganesha,the eastern side of India reveals more of Rama and Lord Subrahmanya,called Murugan in Tamil.

    This is probabaly due to the presence of Tamils in Lemuria,which was their home and in MU civilization which was peopled by The Tamils.

    MU were the ancestors of the Incas and Maya civilizations.

    Please read my articles on these topics.

    Tamil classics of the Sangam Period speak of a Great Flood,Kadalkol and the Indian Puranas,Ramayana and Mahabharata also describe this Great Flood as the all the religious texts like the Bible do.Noah is found to be linked to Manu.

    Lord Rama,’s ancestor Vaivastwatha Manu lived in the south of the Vindhya Mountains before he moved to Ayodhya because of this Great Flood,where his son Ikshvaku founded the Iksvaku Dynasty to which Lord Rama belongs .

    Vaiwastwatha Manu meditated in Madagascar.

    Lord Vishnu’s marks are worn in the body by the Aborigines of Australia.

    An Australian tribe performs Shiva’s Trinetra dance even today.

    Sage Agastya is found in Newzealand apart from in Lanka,Indonesia,Vietnam,Cambodia among other countries.

    Fiji has links with Manu and Manu’s sculpture is in Fijian Parliament.

    Cambodia has a big Hindu Temple,The Angkorvat.

    Its design is based on Sri Chakra on its top.

    Thailand Kings have named themselves after Lord Rama.

    A Brahmin of Kaundinya Gotra from Kanchipuram,Tamil Nadu founded Cambodia,Vietnam and Thailand.

    Daksha ,Father of Uma ,to escape the wrath of Shiva hid in Antarctica.

    The Tsunami devored cities  of ancient.

    Tamil speaks of Poets’Conclaves held in the now submerged landmass of Lemuria/MU.

    These  Three Conclaves were called Tamil Sangams and the first one was held in Kapatapuram in the sunken mass and the Meet was presided over by Lord Shiva.

    Lord Krishna attended the Poets’Meet as a special Invitee.

    He also married a Pandyan Princess and had a daughter whom he married off to a Pandyan prince .

    Arjuna too married a Pandyan Princess.

    The second Tamil Poets’s Conclave was held in Then Madurai,now lying beneath the Ocean.

    Goddess Meenakshi’s Father Malayathdwaja Pandya fought the Mahabharata War along side the Pandavas .

    (The present Madurai where Meenakshi Temple is not the place where these events took place. I shall be writing on how and why Meenakshi Temple is in the present Madurai,Tamil Nadu).

    Meenakshi’s husband was none other than Lord Shiva in His Avatar as Sokkanatha/Sundareswara.

    Their .son Ugrakumara parted the sea by a Spear.

    There is another Tamil King who reclaimed land from the sea as also Parashurama.

    Yet another Tamil King drilled the mountain to irrigate land, by diverting a River.

    ‘The ancient Indians in South Asia and the Incas in South America said that there used to be a land in the Pacific known as “Mu” (Lemuria) whose people came to the Incas and taught them their sciences/knowledge. The island of Yonaguni of japan is very near the northern islands of the Philippines and it is East of Taiwan. There’s an underwater pyramid there but it looks more like a quarry of some kind and somehow similar to the stone works of the ancient Incas.

    One of the things that I find interesting is that some of the things mentioned by Zorra particularly about tall people (15 feet tall) are actually a story that was circulating in the islands of the Philippines even way before the arrival of the Spaniards. The natives said they have been seeing giants that usually appear at night or at sunset. Some of this giants even talked with people and they said they came from the mountains. It could be referenced to an underground opening like a cave. There are some tribes in the Philippines that are identical to an ancient tribe in Taiwan thats been there before the arrival of Chinese in Taiwan. And they have some similarities with Polynesians (Pacific islanders), Incas and Mayans. Everytime I read the message of Sheldan Nidle and mentioned words of Sirian (Sirius) language it amazes me because that language is very similar to the language in the Philippines. Selamat (Sirian) = Salamat (Tagalog), Balik (Sirian) is also Balik in Tagalog and etc. How could it be so similar that those words mentioned by Sheldan which are from planet Sirius of Sirian language origin are actually not only identical but also very similar in definition? Before I thought its just a coincidence but now I know that that alternative view of ancient history is more interesting and more sensible than what the textbooks says. I cannot say with certainty that this verifies the connection of the ancient people of the Pacific with Lemuria and that Lemuria is connected with Planet Lemur whose people came from Planet Sirius. But the circumstances and the similarities begs for more studies.

    ‘Another example is why is it that some of the ancient places in India and Sri Lanka have names of ancient Iberian language (Old Spanish)? There is no historical record neither in Europe and South Asia where people from Spain and Italy ever went to that part of the world thousands of years ago. The Dutch went there only a few hundred years ago and thats what we know because its recorded. I am partly Spanish and I can tell the words and names found on those countries that they used to name some of their ancient cities and regions did not originate from their land. How were they able to name those ancient lands very similar to the language of ancient Iberia? It is only possible if the Atlanteans visited India in the ancient times. This must be about the time beyond the seven thousand year period of Earths history.

    (   http://newdimension2012.blogspot.in/2012/12/some-thoughts-about-lemuria-and-atlantis.html  )

    And,

    The Rig Veda speaks of “the three continents that were”; the third was home to a race called the Danavas.

    A sunken land called Rutas was an immense continent far to the east of India and home to a race of sun-worshippers. Rutas was torn asunder by a volcanic upheaval and sent to the ocean depths. Fragments remained as Indonesia and the Pacific islands, and a few survivors reached India, where they allegedly became the elite Brahman caste.

    Now,the Dhanavas are,

    ‘The Danavas were the sons of Danu, who in turn was a daughter of Daksha. Danu is connected with the waters of heavens and she is probably associated with the formless, primordial waters that existed prior to the creation. The name is connected with the PIE root *danu, “river” or “any flowing liquid” and is associated with the Danu (Asura). Under the leadership of Bali.[1] and others the Danavas revolted against the Devatas (Devas).[2]Despite initial successes, the Danava were defeated by the god Vamana who in dwarf form deceived their leader Bali. The Danavas were not universally considered to be evil, individual Danava could be classified as good or bad.’

    Based on these and on the information that the emerging city in Antarctica,it may be postulated that the Anttarctica had Sananata Dharma connection as revealed by Geology,Tamils classics,History of Mus,Incas,Mayas.

    And this is reinforced by the Purana that the Antarctica wa the continent of Dhanavas.

    You may read detailed articles on each of the statements I have made by Googling the search term+ramanan50 as providing too many hyper links has a technical problem.

    I have not detailed the Ravana,Ramayana Connection as there are numerous articles.

    You may check them.

    Reference and citations.

    http://www.crystalinks.com/lemuria.html

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danava_(Hinduism)