It is a shock to the followers of the Kanchi Mutt that Jayendra Saraswati had met with Nithyananda of Ranijtha, Rape fame at Kumbh Mela ,Allahabad.
I received a cal today from a friend of mine who is an ardent follower of the Kanchi Mutt(who knows me and my views on Jayendrar and Kanchi Mutt )when he expressed his anguish at the News and he has been flooded with emails of Sankara Mutt Devotees being deeply wounded.
He wanted my views.
The reply I gave him is posted here..
Look at this Video by The Nithyananda Ashram and Jayendrars’ encomiums on the Nithyananda Peetham(?) and Nithyananda’s speech.
YouTube Description.
‘Published on Feb 8, 2013
Jan 7 2013 – Event in Mahakumbhapuri Prayag :
One of the famous Tamil nadu math Kaanchi kaamakodi Peetathipathi Sri Sri Sri Jayendra saraswathi swamigal Visited Nithyananda Dhyanapeetam at Mahakumbhamela. He met Paramahamsa Nithyananda Swamigal. And he spoke about the greatness of Dhyanapeetam and Swamiji.’
My comments.
Though I am critical of Jayendra Saraswati,I have the highest regard for Maha Periyava, as my readers know.
Jayendra Saraswati, according to a news Report met with Nithyananda at Allahabad and had a discussion(!) with him.
Jayendra Sarswati is yet to extricate himself from the Shankara Raman Murder, Cell Phones threatening the Judge who is trying the Sankar Raman Case,Misappropriation of Kamakshi Amman Gold cases.
Not to forget his running away to Talacauvery episode.
There were also reports of a controversy in Coastal Andhra which was suppressed .
As I said earlier, if not being a Guru, let him stop becoming a sore thumb of Hinduism and sully the name of his Guru, Maha Periyava.
He may not be affected by criticism, surrounded by chamchas and yes-men who seek a living by being near to him.
It is the Brahmin Community, for the sin of having been born a Brahmin has to become the butt of ridicule in the Society, which as it is, is being targeted in Tamil Nadu in particular.
The Reverence one has for Maha Periyava and Gurus(as described by the Vedas-of course Jayendrar does not belong to this category) can only take this much.
Time he is disowned publicly as the Madurai Adheenam was, when he consorted with Nithyananda.
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Come on Sir. Come off age. Your comments are a joke.
I hope the incarceration in jail & the humiliation heaped by the Society has brought some good sense to ‘ demi Gods’ & their followers.
Don’t you worry, Iam happy wherever Iam — happy at not being a dumb follower
Better to be a dumb follower than be a detractor and pass such disparaging comments based on reports brought out by the yellow press, without even attempting to know the truth.
https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.jsDr M Chandrashekhar,
On the contrary I find your comments to be entirely illogical and immature.
Please have some amout of logic in what you write and be sensible.
I think that advice would suit you who is a dumb bhakth. Take care.
As usual, Mr. Ramanan, I see you are up to your usual antics here, defaming the Kanchi Acharya. I guess it is your favorite pastime to look into any issue and see if a controversy can be raked out of it, especially concerning the Kanchi Mutt. Are you the foremost representative of Hinduism to say that Hindus disown Sri Jayendra Saraswathi Swamigal. With what audacity do you just write His name without a respective prefix.
Did you or Dr. M Chandrashekhar venture into the private chambers of Sri Jayendra Saraswathi Swamigal and witness any illicit activities taking place there? If you have not visited the Kanchi Mutt before, I urge you to go take a look. The lives of the Acharyas are extremely public, right from the beginning of the day at 5 am till late in the night at 10.30 pm. If they are not performing puja, they are either attending any public events (within or without the Mutt), or attending sadas or granting darshan to devotees. There is no private time for themselves. They do not take any siestas in the noons, too, for your kind information. I tell all of this because I have served in the Mutt and know clearly the day to day happenings.
You might be aware that N Srinivasan, the ex-BCCI president and owner of CSK, is a very ardent devotee of the Sringeri Mutt and has been given the title Guru Bhakta Shiromani. Now that his SiL is accused of being involved in betting and match-fixing in the IPL and even N Srinivasan’s name is also tainted, will you say that the Sringeri Mutt should stop all associations with N Srinivasan and disown any donations he has made to the Mutt.
Regarding Dr. Chandrashekhar’s comment about Sri Jayendra Saraswathi Swamigal cooling away in AC rooms, has he ever had darshan of Sringeri Acharya. All through the recent Vijaya Yatra and even while at Sringeri, wherever He goes, an assistant would be behind him holding a “mobile” fan. And high-end coolers were installed within the premises that He rested or performed puja, in almost all towns visited during the Yatra. Apparently, in a very well known Mutt, devotees have to pay a hefty amount to have a private audience with the Acharya.
Narayanan has excellently rebutted all your comments. So, if it is controversies that you are searching for, why don’t you go searching for it with other Mutts. They have truckloads of it. It’s time that you grew up and got a life beyond looking into controversies and condemning Kanchi Mutt.
Iam least interested in Mutts. You seem to be pissed off since I touched a raw nerve by telling you what exactly happens / happened in Kanchi Mutt.
Kindly read an eye opening article ” How the Gods Fail “‘ in Outlook dt 13 Dec 2004 & other such articles.
If you still choose to remain blind, the choice is yours.
Dr Chandrashekhar? What makes you so sure about what exactly happens/happened within Kanchi Mutt? Were you witness to any happenings. And about your eye-openin articles, did you know that Vinod Mehta who was the Editor of Outlook when these articles were published was previously editor of the sleaze magazine Debonair? And most of the articles carried in these magazines are quoted as “information provided by sources”. If the columnists could reveal who are these sources and even if such a source exists at all, it would do the world a great help. It is good that Kanchi Mutt doesn’t have followers such as you. It won’t be any less great due to your or Ramanan’s criticisms.
https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.jsramarnava, I am astonished at the atrocity of your lies about Sringeri Swamigal. I have been to meet this swamiji numerous times, privately also many times. Not even once had I ever paid a single paisa for the audience. And I am an ordinary salaried, (superannuated) executive in a private company. Why do you drag another sanyasi, that too a true sanyasi, into this discussion. Your behaviour is highly unethical and unwarranted.
You have incurred bhagavata apacharam, for which you will pay the penalty sooner or later in life!!
What have I said about Sringeri Acharya in the article?
Regards.
Iam sorry to say I met him once & was appalled at the arrogance displayed by him & his team. It struck me very clearly–if you have money you are treated differently .All my devotion vanished at that very moment–wonder how God incarnates behave ! No way Iam going to be part of any entourage.
My people are still blind followers of this blind system–before every marriage in the family, the Card is first given to him. I could not & cannot change that
Similarly, when asked by poor patients as to why the charges in Tambaram Hospital was high, the saffron clad businessman is supposed to have remarked– we have invested so many crores in this hospital, why should we subsidise ? Great CSR.
The article in Outlook mentions the AC Room which the juniormost pontiff & his brother used regularly in that poor orphanage for girls–you know for what –definitely not to teach Puranas !
May be the incarceration in Jail & subsequent humiliation in the community has brought in some welcome changes–I appreciate that very much.
Not to forget the Cable TV in .Bala Periyava’s(!?) room.
Luxurious living with ACs blasting away Kancheepuram heat, unlimited money kind courtesy gullible donors, political patronage, big business dealings, good food with fruits, cow’s milk & unadulterated ghee ( look at the girth of both the present pontiffs), jet setting all over the globe,swooning women of all ages, unlimited adulation by devotees, — God, what a way to look for Salvation !!
I think one should be Blessed to have such luxuries.
Just ask both of them to go back from wherever they came from.. As a devout Hindu, I hate to have them as my Religious Guru — sorry, if I sound rude.
I am sorry to say among the comments you have made. The only thing true about jayendra saraswati is that he is jetsetting. Donors, and money yes but for whom? Have you been with Jayendrar’s entourage. How many times have people even seen him wearing even rudimentary slippers. Let us stick to what we know as facts and not wildly make allegations based on rumours, hearsay from people without credibility and one’s own suppositions.
Let me be clear her.e I agree with your view that from a traditional/shastraic standpoint , one can easily see a lot of flaws in Jayendrar’s actions. Today if I scan the actions of any of the Sanyasis , I am not able to fit them in perfectly in line with the shastras. Not even Sringeri swamigal, to my view appears to fully confirm to shastras, though I admire him. So it is the case of a greater offender – truly speaking from shastraic point of view.
Reverting to your replies on my view
1. My point was we cannot admire Paramacharya and dismiss Jayendrar , they were just two sides of the same coin. There is a blame that must be shared between the two if we must blame someone. On another note if Kanchi mutt was fabricating a lineage, Paramacharya could not possibly have been unconscious of the fact and already failed the test for a Sanyasi from a shastraic point of view
2. Admidst a lot of discussion on who could have been truthful – Radha or Swamigal, nothing has been established in a court of law. There could have been N reasons for the differences and N reasons for the diversion of gold, it it happened. We do not know the full details except what we hear from accusations and counter accusations
3.I agree sanyasis should shun publicity. One can either view Jayendrar’s actions as a case of hyperactivity or a case of publicity. The verdict has not yet been delivered- Is there someone who has the authority to be a judge here? In any case, I am not able to recollect any who really fits in with some of the shastraic texts like – Narada Parvrajaka Upanishad. Staying in a home itself( the mutt is no different from a home) is itself an offence for Sanyasa Dharma
4. Point 4 has been missed completely. There is no credibility for Anuradha anymore considering her own statements, writings and retractions. some of her own relations have not had a pleasant view of her either, and that was much before she became famous as a writer . The whole circumstance surrounding that affair, the police trying to drag the names of normal people like usha, or more high profile people like some televison anchors etc leads one to completely dismiss this episode and encourages people like me to tell others to dismiss this , until someone comes up with a credible evidence which can stand in a court of law.
5. As a sanyasi if we apply that rule that a sanyasi must heap praise on only people with an impeccable record, I am sorry to say I am not able to find any such sanyasi. It did not start today. It was there even from the times of Tipu sultan. Why cannot we view that he also has a mission to support causes of hindus, considering the difficulties posed by conversions, and I do agree that quite often his intention probably does not come across due to his quick tongue. I highlighted the view on Ramana to show that there can be a difference in perception from actual reality. What one says may be for a purpose which one may alone know. The only way to judge a person’s words and actions,is by first reviewing the circumstances surrounding the action, the pattern there. In this case the pattern which I found was him visiting controversial & non controvesial sadhus and speaking in much higher defense of hinduism after his release from the prison. To me he seems to be a person who has a mission much beyond the normal confines of shastras and advaita. A case in point was a recent speech in which he quoted ramanujacharya to an audience . His passion to advocate for a greater cooperation among hindus and his views on conversion is very much known to people associated with his activities. The takeover of Child trust hospital being a case in point. All this is possibly related to his visit of numerous swamijis. I can tell you that today, Jayendrar would have no hesitation in meeting certain sanyasis or sadhus who have spoken against him. The hesitation to meet more comes from the other side.
I do believe that when we say someone was a Sanyasi as per the shastras ,we can never be sure of all the conditions that need to be satisfied. This is the true state of what we know today to be shastras. We only have sampradayas left not shastras even though we speak of shastras often
If we keep a simpler definition of a Sanyasi – ” One who is not personally afflicted with any material desires, and one who is ever in pursuit of truth”. Some definition in this manner is an easier way to judge not always through the eye of shastras. With this simpler definition we can identify many sanyasis who could possibly come into this category . It is difficult for me to pass a judgement that Jayendrar did not belong to this category, I simply have no idea. But if someone is a follower of Jayendrar, unlike me, things have not come to such a situation, when they should abandon their respect for him. There is./was no perfect sanyasi today or yesterday strictly speaking as per shastras.
Typical man’s point of view ! Phew ! When JayEndra visits a city, the widows are supposed to keep away from coming in front of him. If he came across them, he wouldn’t eat anything as an atonement for the sin of having seen them accidentally”. His shishyas abuse the widows who walk in his direction to go to make their regular visits to temple by saying, “shaniyankalaa, saamiyaara patni pOdarElE”. He was chased away in KErala by some spunky Nair women asking him to get out rather than coming to “their state” & controlling, abusing & humiliating “them”. He went & sat in Benares licking his wounds for several years. But came back to say that nobody should marry a widow. If they do so, the whole family would perish. Cho Ramaswamy who was an ardent devotee & a favorite of him & a severe critic of women himself asked people to ignore him. JayEndra awarded Shivashankari for writing in praise of him. At that time widowhood did not matter. Shame on misogynists like you who support such charlatans posing as “Jagatgurus”.