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  • Lord Rama Was A King of Sumeria King List

    Lord Rama Was A King of Sumeria King List

    The King List which chronicles a list of Kings of Sumeria is written in Sumerian Language.

     

    Ancient Sumeria, one of the oldest civilizations flourished in the southern parts of Iraq.

     

    In the Kings List, one finds the Dynasties of the Kings of Sumeria with their official locations.

     

    It includes the names of Kings of adjoining countries, then called city states

     

    The Kingship was believed to be from the Gods and was transferable from one  city to another.

     

    Sumeria was believed to have had an hegemony during its period of existence.

     

    It is curious to find the name of Lord Rama in the Sumerian King List.

     

    Not only Lord Rama but his brother Bharata also find a place in the List.

     

    The King List.jpg
    King List,Sumeria

     

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    Fortunately, a study of Sumerian history provides a fairly vivid flesh-and-blood picture of Rama. The highly authentic Sumerian King-list appear such hallowed names as Bharat (Warad) Sin and Rim Sin. Sin was the Moon god Chandra and as the cuneiform symbol for ‘Rim’ can also be read as ‘Ram’, Rim Sin is the same as Rama Chandra. In the Sumerian texts Ram-Sin is said to be from Elam which links him to Indo-Iran. Rama was the longest reigning monarch of Mesopotamia who ruled for 60 years. Bharat Sin ruled for 12 years (1834-1822 BC), exactly as stated in the Dasaratha Jataka. The Jataka statement, “Years sixty times hundred, and ten thousand more, all told, / Reigned strong-armed Rama”, only means that Rama reigned for sixty years which agrees exactly with the data of Assyriologists. Ayodhya may be Agade the capital of Sargon which has not yet been identified. It is possible that Agade was near Der or the Heart near Harayu or Sarayu. Learned scholars like D. P. Mishra were aware that Rama could be from the Herat area. The noted linguist Sukumar Sen also noted that Rama is a sacred name in the Avesta where he is mentioned together with Vayu. Rama is called Rama Margaveya in some texts from which Dr. Sen concluded that he hailed from Margiana. The Cambridge Ancient History contains priceless information relevant to Indian ancient history. The Sumerian records furnish the first date of the Indus era – the war with Ravana took place in 1794 BC. The significance of the fact Ram-Sin’s reign (60 years) was the longest in Sumerian history has been lost on most writers. There are two Ram-Sins in Sumerian history.”…….

     

    My researches into the relationship from between the Dravadas (South of Bharata Varsha) and Sanatana Dharam have led me to establish that the ancestor of Lord Rama, Vaivaswatha Manu migrated from Dravida desa because of a Tsunami to Ayodhya to establish a Kingdom.

     

    * Seemingly different dates of Rama from the Date of Rama of Ramayana tells another story.

     

    Shiva and His sons Ganesha,Muruga left by the Arabian Sea and spread through the Middle East, establishing their lineage en route, Iraq, Africa, Spain,Latin America,North America, Central America before reaching the Arctic where the Rig Veda was composed.

     

    Later their descendants traveled from the Arctic through Russia to reach India again.

     

    These facts are culled from Tamil Classics Vedas, Sanskrit Literature and cross checked by Astronomical facts mentioned in these texts.

     

    More to follow on this subject.

     

    Citations.

    http://www.ranajitpal.com/rama.html

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waddell%27s_chronology

    Waddell’s Chronology.

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    Amar-Sin, (“Bur-Sin II“) 2109-2089 BCE Rama or Rama-Chandra
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  • Ravana Signed Peace Treaty With Tamil Pandya King

    Ravana Signed Peace Treaty With Tamil Pandya King

    Two ancient languages of India, Sanskrit and Tamil talk of The Ramayana and Mahabharata.

     

    Sanskrit and Tamil quote each other that it well-nigh impossible to know which is earlier.

     

    The Stargate of Ravana
    Ravana’s Stargate

     

    Ramayana was written by Valmiki in Sanskrit and was extensively quoted by ancient Tamil Literature, some as old as five thousand years.

     

    There is also evidence to suggest that Valmiki knew Tamil and wrote Tamil Vanmikakovai.

     

    Post on Was Valmiki a Tamil?, follows.

     

    The Ramayana speaks of Ravana as a Rakshasa.

     

    He is also described as Asura, meaning a man of immense Strength and Valor.

     

    The Rakshasas, according to Puranas, lived down south, an allegory that they lived south of the Vindhyas.

     

    There are references to Kumari Kandam, a Super Continent, of which Lanka formed a part.

     

    The three kings of South India had close contacts with the kings of Lanka.

     

    To such an antiquity that Ravana, who was engaged in stirring trouble in the Pandya Kingdom.

     

    He was reported to have been checked by a Pandya King and Ravana sued for Peace.

     

    This has been found in the Chinnamanur inscriptions, Tamil Nadu.

     

    “The Sanskrit portion of the bigger Sinnamanur plates begins with a fragmentary verse in which the king (perhaps Pandya) boasts of having subdued the ocean — an attribute which the mythical Pandya kings generally assumed in consequence, perhaps, of their sea-bordering kingdom, their naval power, and their sea-borne trade, from the earliest historical times. From him were descended the kings known as Pandyas (v. 2) ‘who engraved their edicts on the Himalaya mountain’ and whose family-priest was the sage Agastya (v. 3). One of the Pandya kings is said to have occupied the throne of Indra (v. 4) and another to have shared it with that god, and still another, to have caused the Ten-Headed (i.e., Ravana of Lanka) to sue for peace (v. 5). One was a conqueror of the epic hero Arjuna       Verse 8 refers to a king who cut off his own head in order to protect that of his master and also to a certain Sundara-Pandya who had mastered all the sciences. Many kings of this family had performed Vedic sacrifices Rajasuya and Asvamedha (v. 9).”

     

    “Pathupattu in Tamil (Ten long poems) has ten books and one of them is Maduraikanchi. This very long poem has a reference to Ravana (lines 40-42).”

    * I am unable to vouch this as these lines do not see to refer Ravana.

    “தொள் முது கடவுள் பின்னர் மேய,
    வரைத் தாழ் அருவிப் பொருப்பின் பொருந!”

     

    The above is from Madurai Kanchi,a Sangam Literary work, there seems to be no reference to Ravana here.

     

    Comments welcome.

     

    There are references by Nachinarkiniyar, a Tamil Commentator of the Sanga Era on Agsthya and Ravana.

     

    And there is a reference by Kalidasa in Raghuvamsa.

     

    (This raises the question about Kalidasa’a Date)

     

    ““Pandya wore pearl garlands and sandal paste. He was soaked in Avabrutha Snanam during Asvamedha yajna. Ravana was so scared that Pandya may attack and capture his Janasthana (in Dandakaranya), so he made a peace treaty with the Pandya king and then went to win Indraloka. Pandya was praised for receiving a weapon (Brahmsiras) from Lord Shiva.

     

    Citation.

    http://tamilandvedas.com/2014/06/24/ravana-pandya-peace-treaty-kalidasa-solves-a-tamil-puzzle/

     

    http://www.whatisindia.com/inscriptions/south_indian_inscriptions/volume_3/copper_plates_at_tirukkalar.html

     

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  • Lord Ram Sita Drunkards Debauch Amebedkar Insults Reply

    Lord Ram Sita Drunkards Debauch Amebedkar Insults Reply

    One of the Holy Cows of India, Dr.Ambedkar, others being Gandhi,Nehru,Annadurai of Tamil Nadu and MGR, is not to be commented upon by any one for they are perfect and what they utter is the Ultimate Truth, whatever non sense it might be.

    Ambedkar, a man who ,according to his followers has written the Constitution of India(the other members of the Draft committee were fools),studied with the financial help of a Brahmin, who married a Brahmin woman,became a Buddhist stating that Buddhism has no divisions.

    Those who say that Buddhism has many schools of thought and practices are idiots.

    Ramayan Sites Sri Lanka
    Ramayana Sites, Sri Lanka

    He had written that Cow was slaughtered,eaten and was sanctioned by the Vedas.

    Hinduism practices Caste system which was inhuman.

    Please read my posts where I have replied to his half-baked, ill-informed, mischievous and misleading researches(?)

    He had no spared the Ramayana , Mahabharata, Rama  and Krishna.

    His observations on Rama are highly insulting to Hindus and they are totally in correct.

    What he states about Rama has no references though he seems to quote .

    If one checks the source of his references one can see through this game.

    Normal tendency of the people, if some one says he is quoting an ancient text, is to take it for granted as True.

    Ambedkar says Ramayana is a fraud and a mere story and yet at the same time goes about denying the Ramayana.

    If the Ramayana is a Story, why take the trouble of denying it?

    If the Ramayana is a mere story of Valmiki’s fertile imagination(why do you accept Valmiki as real, you could have denied him as well), then the facts,

    The date of Ramayana has been authenticated through Archeology,History by internal and external evidence,

    The route traveled by Rama in search of Sita  exist even today with the landmarks as described by Valmiki,

    The Planets configuration described by Valmiki during Rama’s Birth, Marriage, Ramayana War all check out .

    Apart from the places mentioned in India on the incidents of Ramayana, these places, like the Asokavadi, Pond where Sita took bath in Sri Lanka, the place where she was imprisoned by Ravana, Ravana’s Airstrip, his Pushpaka Vimana’s Axle, and the ruins of his palace are found in Sri Lanka.

    The city founded by Lava, son of Rama ,Lahore is now in Pakistan.

    Ramayana is found in the far-east,in their languages.

    Yes all this is non sense and only Ambedkar is intelligent and others are fools.

    Ambedkar’s facts (?) of Ramayana are wrong.

    Now read what Ambedkar has on say on Rama.

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    Valmiki also gives a detailed description of how Rama spent his life in the Zenana. This Zenana was housed in a park called Ashoka Vana. There Rama, used to take his meal. The food according to Valmiki consisted of all kinds of delicious viands. They included flesh and fruits and liquor. Rama was not a teetotaller. He drank liquor copiously and Valmiki records that Rama saw to it that Sita joined with him in his drinking bouts*[f81] . From the description of the Zenana of Rama as given by Valmiki it was by no means a mean thing. There were Apsaras, Uraga and Kinnari accomplished in dancing and singing. There were other beautiful women brought from different parts. Rama sat in the midst of these women drinking and dancing.

    They pleased Rama and Rama garlanded them. Valmiki calls Rama as a ‘Prince among women’s men ‘. This was not a day’s affair. It was a regular course of his life.

    As has already been said Rama never attended to public business. He never observed the ancient rule of Indian kings of hearing the wrongs of his subjects and attempting to redress them.”

    I do not from know where Ambedkar has this source.

    I have replied here the most obnoxious statement of Ambedkar.

    Other comments by him are mild when compared to this.

    This post is to highlight the misinformation by self-styled Rationalists for self-aggrandizement with no real grasp of what they speak about.

    This is caution to Hindus not to be misled by seemingly authentic quoted by people who have been built up as Great in India.

    Please read my posts on.

    Dating tools of Ramayana, Mahabharata,

    Date of Ramayana.

    Route taken by Rama.

    Ravana’s Palace,Pushpaka Vimana Axle.

    Sita’s Pond.Sita’s Cell.

    Ahokavana,Asokavatika.

    The date of Ramayana Battle.

    Ambedkar on Untouchability, Vedas,Cow slaughter,Reservation muddle and more.

    These posts are filed under Hinduism.

    Citation.

    http://fateh.sikhnet.com//sikhnet/discussion.nsf/ca32680024ff68b487256a08007e86d8/daf9fa36ea63a5ea87256afc0072869c!OpenDocument

    Through this booklet Ambedkar questions the authenticity of so called Lord Rama and Krishna being worshiped as God by Hindus. He highlights numerous erroneous activities of Rama and Krishna that shakes people’s conscience to accept them as Lord. He quotes Valmiki Ramayana in which Ram’s cunning acts of killing Bali, Ravana and Shambook has been exposed. In all of these killings Ram has not shown honesty on any account. He exposes Ram’s and Krishna’s lust for women. Krishna has as many as 16108 wives and Ram too was never loyal to Sita and spends all his time in his harem among women. Ambedkar very categorically illustrates Krishna’s decisions during Mhabharata war and each one was guided by special mystical power and no real power of strength. And hence most of the men killed by Arjun was with the help Krishna or otherwise he could not have done it.

    http://ff1.dalitresourcecentre.com/activities/the-riddles-of-rama-and-krishna/

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  • Lord Rama Had Many Wives, Valmiki?

    Lord Rama as we know has one wife and he is cited as an example of loyalty in marriage.

    I read apiece by Ambedkar on Hinduism ,especially on Lord Rama and Krishna, where he has ridiculed and slung mud at Rama and Krishna.

    In my research to answer him on some points, I came across information that the Valmiki Ramayana we are following now is not by Valmiki but the Ramacharita Manas by Tulsidas.

    Lord Rama's Coronation.jp
    Rama Pattabishekam

    This Tulsidas Ramayana, we have been misquoting as Valmiki Ramayana.

    Can some one clarify with references?

    To my knowledge Rama had only one wife and he had been loyal to Sita.

    This issue , in my opinion, is a classic case of taking things out of context.

    This sloka is about what Manthara speaks about Rama to Kaikeyi just before Lord Rama’s Coronation, Pattabhisheka.

    In her effort to poison Kaikeyi’s mind against Rama, Manthara says that  if Rama was crowned as a King, Bharata’s position would wane:

    Kaikeyi’s Daughter in-laws  , wives of Bharata will be unhappy against Rama’s wives.

    It may be noted that Bharata was married to Mandavi, daughter of Kusatdwaja(Brother of Janaka, Father of Sita)

    Now the fact is that Rama married Sita and Bharata Mandavi.

    Now if Manthara is speaking of facts she would have said as wife of Bharata and not as wives of Bharata.

    Therefore the efforts of Manthara is to incite Kaikeyi with hyperbole, saying that the wives of Bharata, implying that Bharata might marry again, being a King.

    In the same vein Manthara speaks about Lord Rama might have more wives.

    Here Valmiki excels.

    Though he knew the full Ramayana in advance  from Narada before he started writing it, he never divulges the story in advance.

    Valmiki writes in the Ayodhya Kanda,

    hR^ishhTaaH khalu bhavishhyanti raamasya paramaaH striyaH |
    aprahR^ishhTaa bhavishhyanti snushhaaste bharatakshaye || 2-8-12

    12. raamasya= Rama’s; paramaastriyaH= great wives; bhavantikhalu= will become; hR^ishTaaH= delighted; te= your; snushhaaH= daughters-in-law; bhavishhyanti= will become; aprahR^isTaaH= unhappy; bharata kshhaye= of Bharata’s weak position.

    “Rama’s wives will get delighted. Your daughters-in-law will be unhappy because of Bharata’s waning position.”

    Comment: The words ‘Rama’s wives’ here do not indicate that Rama had multiple wives. Manathara refers to a possible future where Rama being a King would marry other women. It was a norm then for a king to have more than one wife).

    (Ayodhya Kanda Chapter 8 Sloka 12)

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    After this Valmiki Ramayan there were several ramayan written by people afterwards.

All these subsequent ramayan contained story of Valmiki ramayan but with plus and minus. 

It means that subsequent ramayana differed from the original ramayan in several ways. 

But there was only one Ramayan which was written after Valmiki Ramayan 

that became highly popular and that was Tulsidas.

(He was contemporary to King Akbar) written RAMCHARITMANAS. 

So Ramcharitmanas was written 
around 2000 years after original ramayan was written. 

And to give you shock - hold your breath - 

the Ramayan that you know today is NOT the original 
Ramayan written by Valmiki ji rather it is Tulsidas written Ramcharitmanas.


    . Shri Ram chandr Ji had several wives apart from seeta. 

Ayodha Kandam 8th Chapter, verse 12 - "Rama's wives will get delighted.





 Citation.


http://www.valmikiramayan.net/ayodhya/sarga8/ayodhya_8_frame.htm


https://archive.org/stream/DifferenceBetweenOriginalRamayanAndTheRamayanaYouKnow/DifferenceBetweenOriginalRamayanAndTheRamayanYouKnow_djvu.txt
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  • Ramayana Sundara Kanda Navaha Slokas Video,Benefits

    I had posted an article on  the procedure to be followed in Sundarakanda Parayana.

     

    I deliberately left the Navaha in the article.

     

    Rama Pattabishekam

     

    That is reciting the Sundara Kanda 68 Chapters in Nine Days.

     

    Reason is that the Navaha is most effective and I wanted to post an artilce on this.

     

    There are 68 chapters in the Sundarakanda.

     

    And Rama Pattabhisheka from Yuddha Kanda is to be recited on the concluding day.

     

    So for Nine days it totals to 69 chapters.

     

    Recite Eight chapters a Day or Seven days.

     

    On the Eighth Day , Six Chapters.

     

    On the Ninth, concluding day , recite the balance Seven chapters.

     

    Begin with Parayana Slokas before Sundara Kanda.

     

    Smarthas may follow Smartha Sampradaya Parayana  Slokas and Sri Vaishnavas, Vaishnava Smpradaya Slokas.

     

    Follow the other procedures as mentioned in my earlier post.

     

    Link is provided here, which also details the Naivedya to be offered.

     

    Benefits of reading Sundara Kanda.

     

    • Salvation can be achieved by reading the first chapter daily for six months.
    • Effect of attack of devils, ghosts, spirits can be warded off by reading 3rd chapter.
    • To get rid of dullness of brain, read 13th chapter
    • To get rid of the sin of having affair with some one else’s wife, read chapters 7-11.
    • To get permanent wealth and happiness read chapter 15.
    • To get rid of bad dreams read Chapter 27.
    • To get good behavior read chapter 20-21.
    • To rejoin with lost relatives read chapters 33-40.
    • To get rid of impending danger read chapter 36.
    • To get pardon from god for insult done to him knowingly and unknowingly read chapter 38.
    • Read chapters 42-47 to win over enemies
    • To become just and charitable read chapter 51
    • For improvement of assets like house, land etc read chapter 54.
    • To get peace and happiness read Chapter 61
    • To get perennial happiness and to attain God read chapter 67.
    • To get what one wishes read chapter 41
    • To realize God and to become one capable of sweet words read chapter 19.

    The Navaha delivers all the results one desires.

     

     

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