There is a general confusion about Kumari Kandam, the Home of the Tamils and Lemuria.
Many are under the impression that both might be the same.
They are different.
Before preceding, let us clear the air about the discussion whether these are real or mere fantasies.
Lemuria.
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In 1864 the zoologist and biogeographers Philip Sclater wrote an article on “The Mammals of Madagascar” in The Quarterly Journal of Science. Using a classification he referred to as lemurs but which included related primate groups,[4] and puzzled by the presence of their fossils in both Madagascar and India but not in Africa or the Middle East, Sclater proposed that Madagascar and India had once been part of a larger continent. He wrote:
The anomalies of the Mammal fauna of Madagascar can best be explained by supposing that … a large continent occupied parts of the Atlantic and Indian Oceans … that this continent was broken up into islands, of which some have become amalgamated with … Africa, some … with what is now Asia; and that in Madagascar and the Mascarene Islands we have existing relics of this great continent, for which … I should propose the name Lemuria”(wiki Lemuria)
This theory seems to have been discarded by making vague statements about tectonic plate movement with out offering anything specific that would stand the test of reasonable evidence.
But the dating of the remains in Poompuhaar in the southern tip of Tamil Nadu to 11000 back proves that there was indeed a landmass.
Please read my posts on Poompuhaar.
Lemuria and Kumari Kandam.
When ones across the archeological evidence in the areas beig called once belonging to Lemuria, indicate a confirmed Hindu presence and the apread of Tamil culture.
Kumari Kandam Evidence.
According to Silappadhikaram, one of the Five Great Epics of Tamil Literature written in 2nd century CE, states that the “cruel sea” took the Pandiyan’s land, part of which was present between the rivers Pahruli and the mountainous banks of the Kumari. These rivers are said to have flowed in a now-submerged land.
Adiyarkkunallar, a 12th-century CE commentator on the epic, explains this reference by saying that there was once a land to the south of the present-day Kanyakumari, which stretched for 700 kāvatam from the Pahruli river in the north to the Kumari river in the south.
The modern equivalent of the measurement kāvatam, which is also known as kātam in Tamil, is a distance of 6.25 miles (10.06 km).[
Kanakkathikaram, a 15th century Tamil Mathematical literary work which is in the form of poems, defines the length of 1 kāvatam(1 kātam) as 24,000 muzham(33,000 feet, 6¼ miles) and it also defines the time taken to cover it which is the distance that can be covered by normal walk in 7½ Nāzhigai or 1 Sāmam(equivalent to 3 hours).
So, the distance of 700 kāvatam is equivalent to 4,375 miles (7,041 km) in modern day measurements.
This land was divided into 49 nadu(countries), or territories, which he names as seven coconut territories (elutenga natu), seven Madurai territories (elumaturai natu), seven old sandy territories (elumunpalai natu), seven new sandy territories (elupinpalai natu), seven mountain territories (elukunra natu), seven eastern coastal territories (elukunakarai natu) and seven dwarf-palm territories (elukurumpanai natu).
All these lands, he says, together with the many-mountained land that began with KumariKollam, with forests and habitations, were submerged by the sea.
Two of these Nadus or territories were supposedly parts of present-day Kollam and Kanyakumari districts.
The 7th century CE commentary written by Nakkīranār for the Tamil literary work Iraiyanar Akapporul, gives the list of Pandiyan kings who ruled the Kumari Kandam. It also gives information about the three Tamil Sangams(assemblies of Tamil scholars and poets who do research on Tamil language and also creates literary works) which spans about 9,990 years. According to this commentary, out of three Tamil Sangams, first two happened in Kumari Kandam.
The geological survey reveals that most of the places in the land under the sea, where Kumari Kandam is claimed to be existed, has the maximum depth of the sea of 200 meters. In some of the places, the maximum depth of the sea is 2000 meters. Since, these areas has low sea depth, there are more possibilities to exists a now-submerged land in which people lived.
Languages spoken by Australian tribes, African tribes, Andaman and Nicobar tribes and Lakshadweep tribes are identical to Tamil language. So, there are high possibilities that there might be a connecting land which exists in between India, Australia and Madagascar
Types of plants, trees and animals present in Africa and Madagascar are identical with that of in India. So, there might be a connecting land which exists in between India and Madagascar.
‘Two American eminent geologists McKenzie and Sclater have clearly explained that Africa and South America were locked together as part of the primitive continent until about 200 million years ago.
The present formations of India, Arabia, Africa, Antarctica, South America and Australia started breaking up due to natural upheavals and moving to different parts of the earth at the rate of 15,000 years per mile on an average and found their places in the Asian Continent. The movement of the earth mass, called Navalam Theevu in Tamil, caused the formation of the present continent of India.
There was a general belief that both Lemuria and Kumari Kandam were the same. However, it has been established by Frank Joseph, Secretary for Ancient American Association, in his book “The Lost Civilization of Lemuria”, the existence of a land called Lemuria, one of the world’s oldest civilizations, about 2.5 lakh years ago, in Indonesia. Hence, Lemuria and Kumari Kandam, which existed in southern part of India, are different lands.
Mr. Joseph has also established that the Mohenjodaro letters of Eastern Islands are nearly 1,00,000 years old. He has critically examined the views of various scholars and established the source of Mohenjodaro letters as well as the ancient civilization of Moo and has written that due to natural calamities, the island of Moo was destroyed about 2.5 lakh years ago.
Eastern Island, 1,000 miles near Japan, has a script called Rongo Rongo and it is identical with Mohenjodaro letters. This has been fixed as 1,00,000 years old.
From the Island of Moo called Lemuria, which was located near Indonesia about 2.5 lakhs years ago, people regularly moved out to Atlantis in Mexican Sea and Kumari Kandam in South Tamil Nadu, about 1,00,000 years ago due to tsunami. These letters are the script of Moo civilization, which was well developed.
From Atlantis, due to tsunami, the Moo people moved to South America and became Aztecs and Incas. Those who moved to North America became Mexicans and Red Indians.
From Kumari Kandam, South of Tamil Nadu, about 15,000 years ago people moved to Africa and became Sumerians and those who moved from Africa to Arabia later became Jews.
From Kumari Kandam, South of Tamil Nadu due to tsunami, people moved to Bengal and became Cholas and those who moved to Sind and Punjab became Cheras.
In Sillapathikaram, it was mentioned that one “Ezhuthanga Nadu” (7×7 =49 countries) existed. So, Southern Tamil Nadu and Kumari Kandam are different regions.
Those who have moved to Southern Tamil Nadu were called Pandiyas and they spread over Ceylon and Tirunelvelli.
References to Kumari Kandam in Foreign literature.
In some of the ancient Chinese chronicles, there are references to Pahruli river, Peru river and Meru Mountain(with 49 peaks) from where the Kumari River, Peru river and Pahruli river were originated(according to Tamil literature). It is said that Chinese laborers were employed by the Pandiyan King and when they went down the mines they appeared like a huge army of small ants. Therefore, they were called pon thondi erumbukal(Gold mining ants). This is also confirmed by ancient Chinese chronicles.
There is also an old Proverb in Tamil culture that Meruvaich cherntha kaagamum ponnaam which means Even a crow in Meru mountain is made of gold.
Megasthenes(ca. 350 – 290 BCE), a Greek ethnographer and explorer in the Hellenistic period, authored the work Indika, the account of his travels in India. In this work, he says that Taprobane(old name of Sri Lanka) was separated from the mainland(Indian Peninsula) by a river, which means that during the period of Megasthenes, Sri Lanka could have been connected to Indian Peninsula by a small landmass in between them and was divided by Thamirabarani River(Porunai River).
The current Thamirabarani River in Tamil Nadu flows into the sea suggests that the Thamirabarani River would have reached Sri Lanka through a now-submerged landmass existed between Indian Peninsula and Sri Lanka during the period of Megasthenes.
I have ben exploring the spread of Sanatana Dharma and Tamil.
I have written articles that Iran,Iraq,Mesopotamia),Sumeria,Russi,Arctic,Indonesia,Vietnam, Cambodia,Japan, Bali , Philippines, New Zealand Australia had the Sanatana Dharma as their roots.
The Incas were the descendants of the Tamils
I have found that wherever Sanatana Dharma is found Tamil is found!
Vanadevata’s (wood spirit) hand issuing from tree trunk offering water.Deceased drinking water offered by tree divinity. Egypt
The Mayans had Sanatana Dharma origin (please read my Post on this).
More to follow on this.
Now it seems that the Egyptians were the descendants of the Tamils!
The presence of Narasimha as Naram Sin, Images of Rama, Sita and Lakshmana,Ancient Tamil scripts being found in Oman and Egypt(I have posts) point in the direction of Sanatana Dharma having been in Egypt.
Of more interest is that the Ancestors of the Egyptians were the Tamils.
‘”Under the reign of Viswamitra, first king of the Dynasty of Soma -Vanga, in consequence of a battle which lasted five days, Manu -Vina, heir of the ancient kings, being abandoned by the Brahmans , emigrated with all his companions, passing through Arya , and the countries of Barria, till he came to the shores of Masra [Cairo].” (History of India, by Collouca-Batta). Unquestionably this Manu-Vina and Menes , the first Egyptian King, are identical.Arya , is Eran (Persia ); Barria, is Arabia, and Masra, was the name of Cairo, which to this day is called,Masr, Musr, and Misro. Phœnician history names Maser as one of the ancestors of Hermes .”
This tallies with the information that Viswamitra banished his sons to the Dravida Desa (History of Tamils by P.T.Srinivasa Iyengar)
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“The four principal groups in ancient India were the Asuras (Assyrians or Indus Valley people), Panis (Phoenicians), Yakhus or Yakshas (subjects of Kubera, god of gold and treasure a.k.a. Nagas) and Mayas. We know them today as the Dravidians (Tamils, Malayalam, etc.)
The non Indus Valley people in ancient days were exceedingly superstitious and fearful of the Mayans. The latter were excellent international shippers and traders, builders and astronomers. Their superstitious enemies thought their accomplishments had to be magic and beyond human ability. They were ultimately driven to Ceylon where they inhabited the province of Maya. Later, they went to the Americas, having been taken there by Kubera and his Yakshas.”‘Ceylon’ in those ancient times was more than likely the now sunken land to the south of India and connected geographically to the Ceylon of today, Sri Lanka. This is the ancient Tamil country of which today’s Tamil Nadu in India is but a small remnant:
“Egypt herself had, in those unknown ages when Menes reigned received her laws, her social institutions, her arts and her sciences, from pre-Vedic India.”
Menes the Ancient Egyptian King was Manu.
‘Menes is undoubtedly the Manu of the second subrace (5.2 Ancient Egypt) and there is a close connection to India which persists to this day – as any traveler to both nations will attest. If the Mayans have a ‘perfect identity of the rites, ceremonies, traditions’ of Egypt then it is further proof that their genesis is in India, also known as ‘Bharata’ in ancient times.
This strenghtens my thory that the Sanatana Dharma was in the South and spread throughout the world and the ancient people of Sanatana Dharma lived in the Dravida Desa.
Please read my post Ram’s ancestor Manu, a Dravida.
References.
Isis Unveiled I, H.P. Blavatsky. p.627.
Will the Maya Prophecy Really Happen? Gene D. Matlock.
The Sanatana Dharma was an intruder into Tamil Culture, it was imposed by the Brahmins who crossed over th India through the Khyber Pass, say the Rationalists and The self-styled scholars of Tamil.
Yes , it was imposed to such an extent that the early Tamil literature Ahanaanuru records that the Chera King Udiyan Cheralaathan offered Tharpana to the people killed in the Mahabharata war.
Emblem of Chera Kings, Tamil Nadu,Bow ad Arrow.
He also fed both the Kaurava and Pandava Army, as a Third Umpire.
Udiyan Cheral performed obsequies for the ancestors’-Ahanaaanuru 233
His contribution in feeding the army was acknowledged so much appreciated that he was subsequently called with Prefix ‘Perunchotru Udiyan Cheralaathan’
Perunchotru Udiyan means one who fed vast quantities of food to People.
I have been pursuing the spread of Sanatana Dharma throughout the world,by checking up,
Rama’s World Empire
1.Archeological findings.
2.Astronomical dating of events in Rama’s Life and of the events that had taken place in what are Foreign lands to India now, mentioned in the Ramayana.
3.The Mahabharata connection.
4.The Vedic practices followed by almost all countries in some form or the other by civilisations which predate the recorded literature of these lands.
5.Cultural similarity, in many cases , identity.
6.The strong influence of Sanskrit over almost all the languages of the world .
7.Another ancient language of the world Tamil, which had also spread throughout the world, in some form or other.
I have been posting articles on the subject, probably about 60, on the presence of Hinduism ,Sanatana Dharma throughout the world.
One central point struck me.
More than the Puranas, Mahabharata and other Sanatana Dharma inputs, Ramayana seems to have found a place every where.
If one checks the directions given by Sugreeva to his army in the search for Sita, one would find references to even Peru, among others!
Indian Influence in Souh East Asia. Greater India: The expansion of Indian culture and influence both in Central Asia and the South East towards the countries and islands of the Pacific is one of the momentous factors of world history. (image source: A Survey of Indian History – By Sardar Kavalam Madhava Panikkar).Click to Enlarge
From Polynesia to Americas.
It is present in Mayan,Aztec,Babylonian, Assyrian,Greek,Roman,Latin American Incas,Russia, China, you find a country in the Map,if you dig deep, you shall find the Ramayana connection.
The obvious inference is that Rama’s Empire must have spread throughout the world, including the Atlantis
This is not so preposterous if one knows Geology , the origin of Continents and the Continental shift.
To add strength to my view is the fact that there are quite a few civilisations of which we practically know very little, yet we find references to Ramayana and Vedas.
Major known civilizations apart there were some other civilisations.
There are theories that suggest Rama’s empire might have ended by a Nuclear Bomb.
“The strong radiation emanating from fossil corpses, at Mohenjo-Daro, forced the Indian government to close the site. Would have Rama’s Empire been destroyed by a nuke bomb? ( I shall be posting on this in detail)
And the current dating of Rama not withstanding, Rama’s Empire might have existed about 10,000 years ago!
“At Mahabalipuram in southern India, a legend says that a city was submerged 10,000 years ago. However, just before the tsunami of 26th December 2004, the waters receded very far. And the inhabitants of the town have seen the emergence of the ruins of a temple and of a stone house, as well as an elephant and two giant lions carved in granite. Two years earlier, Graham Hancock had set up an underwater expedition revealing the presence of masonry and frame walls, dated from 6,000 to 10,000 years ago. As in the legend …
The Tamil Epics, specifically the Silapadikaram speaks of Rama in detail.
Though the Silapadikaram is dated 5th or the 6th century CE, there is strong evidence it might have been earlier.
Taking all this into account and the fact that the Super Continent of Gondwana is real, it is probable and possible that Rama’s Empire extended throughout the world.
One can not wish away the concept of legends of Lemuria ,Atlantis.
They are found in many a civilization’s legends,the civilizations set apart by distance and cultural practices.
Descriptions and references are found in Greek,Latin,Spanish, Nordic, Sanskrit and Tamil.
1.From the Hindu texts it may be inferred that it was inhabited by the descendants of Shiva, Ganesha and Subrahmanya.
Shiva in Atlantis .Shiva with Trident.
Tamil literature speaks of the great Tsunamis, repeatedly emphasized in Sangam Literature , about 5000 old and this is backed by the Puranas.
Or the Tamil literature might be backing up the Purana.
Lord Rama’s ancestor, Vaivasvatha Manu left from the Dravidian South for the Saraswathi valley and his successor’s founded the Ayodhya Kingdom.
Manu left by the Arabian sea route and traveled to the Sarasvathi river initially.
Shiva with his offspring Ganesha and Subrahmanya, referred to as Murugan in Tamil, left by the Arabian sea through the Arabian peninsula to settle down in the Europe, Africa and Latin American countries.
Manu’s descendants also spread towards the north and north-east through Iran, Russia and went as far as the Arctic.
The Rig Veda is reported to have been complied in the Arctic.
2.References found in the Hindu Texts indicate that the people who left by the Arabian sea through the middle east mingled with the local people in those area and so were treated as Milechas by the Sarasvati Valley people.
There seems to have been a constant war going on between these two Groups and those in the region of the Atlantis were referred to as Asuras, the powerful.
3.Asuras are different from the Rakshasas who lived in the southern part of thepresent India from SriLanka down wards, eastwards.
Ravana is one such Rakshasa.
This is mentioned in Tamil Literature while speaking about Lemuria Continent.
The Vedic and Purana texts refer them as Southerners, Dravida.
4.There have also been a clashes between the Lemurians and the Atlantis people.
This again is mentioned n the Puranas as the clash between the Asuras and Rakshasas.
5.In the Ramayana Sugreeva was asked to search for Sita in Peru and the Nazca lines are the Trishula Marks of Shiva.
Plato’s description of Atlantis.
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But when the divine portion began to fade away in them, being diluted too often and too much by admixture with mortal blood, and the human nature began to preponderate, they became unable to control their behavior and became unseemly… and grew visibly debased…
Then, Zeus, the god of gods, who rules by law… seeing that an honorable race was in a most wretched state, and intending to punish them, that they might be purified and improve… gathered all gods together and spake as follows:…”…
There is a story which even you have preserved, that once upon a time Phaethon, the son of Helios, having yoked the steeds in his father’s chariot, because he was not able to drive them in the path of his father, burnt up all that was upon the earth, and was himself destroyed by a thunderbolt. Now, this has the form of a myth, but really signifies a declination of the bodies moving around the earth and in the heavens, and a great conflagration of things upon the earth recurring at long intervals of time: when this happens, those who live upon the mountains and in dry and lofty places are more liable to destruction than those who dwell by rivers or on the sea-shore; and from this calamity the Nile, who is our never-failing savior, saves and delivers us.
When, on the other hand, the gods purge the earth with a deluge of water, among you herdsmen and shepherds on the mountains are the survivors, whereas those of you who live in cities are carried by the rivers into the sea; but in this country neither at that time nor at any other does the water come from above on the fields, having always a tendency to come up from below, for which reason the things preserved here are said to be the oldest.
The fact is, that wherever the extremity of winter frost or of summer sun does not prevent, the human race is always increasing at times, and at other times diminishing in numbers. And whatever happened either in your country or in ours, or in any other region of which we are informed–if any action which is noble or great, or in any other way remarkable has taken place, all that has been written down of old, and is preserved in our temples; whereas you and other nations are just being provided with letters and the other things which States require; and then, at the usual period, the stream from heaven descends like a pestilence, and leaves only those of you who are destitute of letters and education; and thus you have to begin all over again as children, and know nothing of what happened in ancient times, either among us or among yourselves.
As for those genealogies of yours which you have recounted to us, Solon, they are no better than the tales of children; for, in the first place, you remember one deluge only, whereas there were many of them; and, in the next place, you do not know that there dwelt in your land the fairest and noblest race of men which ever lived, of whom you and your whole city are but a seed or remnant. And this was unknown to you, because for many generations the survivors of that destruction died and made no sign.
For there was a time, Solon, before that great deluge of all, when the city which now is Athens was first in war, and was preeminent for the excellence of her laws, and is said to have performed the noblest deeds, and to have had the fairest constitution of any of which tradition tells, under the face of heaven.’
Solon marveled at this, and earnestly requested the priest to inform him exactly and in order about these former citizens.
‘You are welcome to hear about them, Solon,’ said the priest, ‘both for your own sake and for that of the city; and, above all, for the sake of the goddess who is the common patron and protector and educator of both our cities. She founded your city a thousand years before ours, receiving from the Earth and Hephaestus the seed of your race, and then she founded ours, the constitution of which is set down in our sacred registers as 8000 years old.
As touching the citizens of 9000 years ago, I will briefly inform you of their laws and of the noblest of their actions; and the exact particulars of the whole we will hereafter go through at our leisure in the sacred registers themselves. If you compare these very laws with your own, you will find that many of ours are the counterpart of yours, as they were in the olden time.
In the first place, there is the caste of priests, which is separated from all the others; next there are the artificers, who exercise their several crafts by themselves, and without admixture of any other; and also there is the class of shepherds and that of hunters, as well as that of husbandmen; and you will observe, too, that the warriors in Egypt are separated from all the other classes, and are commanded by the law only to engage in war; moreover, the weapons with which they are equipped are shields and spears, and this the goddess taught first among you, and then in Asiatic countries, and we among the Asiatics first adopted.’
Then, Zeus, the god of gods, who rules by law… seeing that an honorable race was in a most wretched state, and intending to punish them, that they might be purified and improve… gathered all gods together and spake as follows:…”…
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