I had written about the antiquity of Tamils and its close connections to Sanatana Dharma.
One intriguing fact,I have mentioned in many articles,is about Shiva Worship.
While Shiva is mentioned rarely in the Vedas directlty,save Srirudram,no Sukthas directly addressed to Shiva,Tamil literature speaks extensively about Shiva.
While the legend of Shiva is limited to His Marriage with Uma(Parvathi,daughter of Himavan,Daksha) her self immolation in the sacrificial fire in the Yagnya conducted by Her father,And Shiva carrying the body of UMA and the coming into being of the 108 Shakti Peetas,the Tamil literature speaks of 64 Avatars of Shiva,His formulation of Tamil as a language,his sons,apart from Ganesha,Murugan(Subrahmanya)Veerabaahu,Navaveeras,Rudrasena.
And Shiva is called the First Yogi with Sage Agastya,Bhogar and Patanjali as His disciples among others.
Rama is reported to have worshipped Shiva in many places in South India,including Rameswaram.
This probably is one of the strongest clues that Shiva cult preceded Ramayana.
The Sangam classics,dated around 3000 BC,speak of Shiva.
In the light of archelogical findings at Poompuhar,Tamil Nadu sets the Sangam classics by 30,000 Years.
So this is another clue.
The next is Tamil being spoken ,even today,in Afghanisthan as a dialect and in Nortwest frontier province of Pakistan.
I had written that Tamils had a second Capital in the Nortwest of India.
Kind Sibi,a Chola king ruled from there.
He invaded the south and built a Temple in Thirivellarai,near Srirangam,Tamil Nadu for Pundarikaksha,(Vishnu).
Sibi and Manu(not Manusmriti Manu) were Cholas and ancestors of Lord Rama
*please read my articles on these.
So we have two issues.
Tamils preceded Ramayana.
They were present in the northwest of India.
There is evidence that the Tamils lived somewhere near the Gulf of Cambay,Gujarat.
Shall write a detailed article on this.
The present article is about the date of Tamils,whose homeland was Lemuria,/Kumarikandam,/MU)
These three could have been one landmass are different but what can not be disputed is that the land was Tamils homeland.
How old is this land and the people?
Before proceeding further it would be relevant to know about the geographical landmarks provided in Tamil classics.
Sangam literature mentions ‘Thrivengadam’Vada Vengadam’ as the Nothern boundary of Tamil Homeland.
Currently,Tirupati is taken as Venkatam.
This forms a part of Seshacham range of hills and it dates back to 200 million years.
Himalayas were formed only about 70 million years ago.
The reference to Himalayas are not found in Lemuria.
What we have now in Tamil is the works belonging to the The Third Tamil Sangam and one finds reference to Himalayas.
The earlier works belonging to second and first Tamil Sangam were lost due to Tsunami.
They could have contained more references to Lemuria.
The reason why Himalayas is not found in Lemuria is because Himalayas was not formed then while Seshachalalam, Vada vengadam was in existence.
I shall be writing on the mountains,rivers of Lemuria as found in Tamil classics.
In as much as Vengadam is mentioned and not Himalayas,it is safe to postulate that Tamils refer to a period when Seshachalam was in existence and Himalayas yet to be Formed.
‘This page created for trivia and commentary regarding the Tretya Yuga [Silver Age]and the continent of Mu, or Lemuria. [- E.M.]
*Trivia:“[….] The Tretya Yuga, or Silver Age, came after the breakup of the previous age, when Lemuria, by earthquakes and tidal waves, went down under the seas. [….]” [Based on: Paul Twitchell, TheShariyat-Ki- Sugmad, Book Two, p. 113, Second Edition – 1988]
*Trivia: “[….] These records tell us that the legendary paradise of man, thought of as the Garden of Eden, was laid on the lost continent of Lemuria which was sunk by earthquakes and tidal waves fifty thousand years ago. [….]” [Based on: Paul Twitchell, The Shariyat-Ki- Sugmad, Book Two, Second Edition – 1988, p. 107]
Considered to be Earth’s first great civilization, Mu [Lemuria] could naturally be placed in the *Golden Age [about 3,891,102 B.C. – 2,163,102 B.C.] in order to fit a popular mythological paradigm of four [Gold, Silver, Bronze, Iron] great ages. My dates for these four ages [Yugas] were figured by using 3,102 B.C. as a starting date for Kali Yuga [Iron Age] and subtracting the appropriate fractions from 4,320,000 years to determine the rest. Most remarkable, perhaps, is the fact Paul Twitchell appeared to suggest two dates [separated by nearly 2 million years] for the destruction of Lemuria: roughly 2 million B.C. & 50,000 B.C. What are the reasons for these two dates? Can a continent sink twice? Or, during his research, was Paul Twitchell faced with more than one popular paradigm concerning the beginning of civilization? [- E.M.]
* See: pp. 16 and 98 (or Index page reference for Yuga / Satya) The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad, Book One, by Paul Twitchell; p.77 (or Index page reference for Age / Golden) The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad, Book Two, by Paul Twitchell; pp. 55 and 163 (or Index page reference for Satya Yuga & Tretya Yuga) The ECK-VIDYA Ancient Science of Prophecy, by Paul Twitchell.
*Trivia: “[….] The destruction of the kingdom of Lemuria and all its colonial empire came about by gas pockets under the crust of the earth some hundreds of thousands of years ago. It was a land of the Aryans who spread the empire throughout the world. [….]” [Based on: Paul Twitchell, The Shariyat-Ki- Sugmad, Book Two, seventh printing, 1982, p. 97 & eighth printing, 1986, p. 97 ]
*Trivia: “[….] The destruction of the kingdom of Lemuria and all its colonial empire came about by gas pockets under the crust of the earth that formed some hundreds of thousands of years ago. [….]” [Based on: Paul Twitchell, The Shariyat-Ki- Sugmad, Book Two, Second Edition – 1988, p. 112]
*Note: “Paul Twitchell died in September, 1971.” [– E.M]
The foregoing two sections of text appear not entirely the same. The newer edition [1988] contains the words that formed. To me [at least for now], this appears to suggest that [hundreds of thousands of years ago] gas pockets were formed under the crust of the earth. The older version of this text [1982 & 1986], however, “appears to suggest” it was the destruction of Lemuria that happened hundreds of thousands of years ago. That is, before the beginning of the Tretya Yuga about 2 million B.C. [- E.M.]
Col. James Churchward suggests a starting date for Mu [Lemuria] at about 200,000 B.C. He bases this date, allegedly, on ancient Nacaal tablets. According to the position of certain stars recorded on those tablets [according, that is, to the conclusion of certain astronomers], he thus determines the date. On the other hand, the final destruction of Mu, according to Churchward, appears to have taken place between 10,000 & 11,000 years B.C.” [- E.M.]
So here we have a case of popular apparent history for one of the oldest recorded civilizations on earth. One that, according to such history, apparently sank beneath the waves of the Pacific Ocean anywhere from 2 million to 10,000 years B.C.
Even more astonishing, perhaps, is the classic church story about how the Garden of Eden and the beginning of the world began at just around 4,000 B.C. Only in the last two hundred years have other older dates for creation really begun to gain public attention. Writers contemporary with the 20th and 21st centuries were once engaged with promoting dates of between ten and fifteen thousand years B.C. for the Biblical flood; not to mention the beginning of man on earth – which probably goes back even further. Of course, some contemporary authors now favor the idea of all four Hindu yugas corresponding – more or less – with the popular 5,000-plus-year cycle for Mayan “suns”, which could have the oldest of them beginning around the 4th millennium B.C.
Obviously, a paradigm shift has been taking place for a number of years. A regular see-saw of dates, or a “hall of mirrors” that “seems to matter”. [- E.M.]
I delivered a talk under the aegis of Tedx ,Combatore on April 8th.
The event was streamed live.
I am yet to receive the video or the photographs from the event organisers.
I saw the photos at Tedx Coimbatore site.
Ramanan at Tedx Coimbatore.
This is is at Flickr.
Ramanan Tedtalk Coimbatore.
Kumarikandam, Ramanis blog
Many readers ,who have watched the event Live, have been asking me to share the material.
As I had told the organisers I am very uncomfortable speaking from a prepared text or notes and I speak extempore.
As the time allotted was 13 minutes, I had to prepare notes and it was a novel and nerve racking experience for me to take notes and rehearse at 1.30 am(?), with two people with Timers.
It is a different matter that I did not follow the prepared text to the letter in the Talk,though I was informed stuck to points and ppt thrown up on the screen.
I am reproducing the Talk from the notes I had prepared.
I shall share the video as and when received.
‘ Earth .1 Billion Years Ago. Note India near the present Arctic.
Rodina,the Super Continent 1.1 billion years ago.
Lemuria Boundary.
Lemuria,the sunken Continent .
Gadira,Spain, in the West
Australia, in the East
Vindhya Mountains in the North
Then Madurai in the South.
Southern End of Lemuria was located to the south of Kanyakumari,Then Madurai
Covered an area of 700 kavatam- Nakkerar in his commentry of Iraiynar Agapporul
One Kavatam Is Ten Miles.
Sage Agastya is found in New Zealand
Shiva Trinetra Dance by Australian Aborigines
Cookes Island,Lake Pukkaki. ,New Zealand referred in Sundarakanda,Ramayana
Kanyakumari to New Zealand 11204 km or 7002 miles
Lemuria From North to South .Vindhyas to Then Madurai(near New Zealand)
Population of Lemuria.
64 Million
(James Churchwad.)
Lands in Lemuria.
Elu teñku natu (“Seven coconut lands”)
Elu Maturai natu (“Seven mango lands”)
Elu munpalai natu (“Seven front sandy lands”)
Elu pinpalai natu (“Seven back sandy lands”)
Elu kunra natu (“Seven hilly lands”)
Elu kunakarai natu (“Seven coastal lands”)
Elu kurumpanai natu (“Seven dwarf-palm lands”)’ –
-Adiyarrkku Nallar in commentary on Silappadikaram.
Lemuria, Timeline.
200,000 to 50,000 BC: evolution of “the Tamilian or Homo Dravida”,ca. 200,000 to 100,000 BC: beginnings of the Tamil language50,000 BC: Kumari Kandam civilisation20,000 BC: A lost Tamil culture of the Easter Island which had an advanced civilisation16,000 BC: Lemuria submerged6087 BC: Second Tamil Sangam established by a Pandya king3031 BC: A Chera prince in his wanderings in the Solomon Island saw wild sugarcane and started cultivation in Tamilnadu.1780 BC: The Third Tamil Sangam established by a Pandya king7th century BC: Tolkappiyam (the earliest extant Tamil grammer)…
-Tamil Etymological Dictionary Project,Govt. Of Tamil Nadu.
Tamil Sangam Literature.
Ettuththogai-Eight Works
Pathuppattu-Ten Works.
Pathinen Melkanakku-Eighteen Works
Pathinen Keezhkkanakku-Eighteen Works.
These belong to Sangam Period.,possibly the Third Sangam
Agathiyam,First Sangam- Lost
Tholkaapiyam ,oldest available work is dated 865 BC
Lemuria,Proof.
1.Naan Madol Ruins in Federated States of Micronesia,Western Pacific.
2.Poompuhar
An old port Poompuhar, mentioned in early Tamil Classics, especially in detail in the Silappadikaram, has been found and it reveals a Man made Port of 11000 Years!
3.Attirampakkam site
Stone Age Site 60 km from,Chennai
One hundred and fifty years ago, on May 30, 1863, young geologist Robert Bruce Foote bent down and picked up a stone tool on the Parade Ground at Pallavaram cantonment, near Chennai. It turned out to be an epochal discovery. Foote’s discovery revolutionised the study of India’s pre-history.
Attirampakkam (13°13′50″N, 79°53′20″E, 38.35 m a.s.l), is an open-air Palaeolithic site situated near a meandering tributary stream of the river Kortallaiyar, northwest of Chennai.
4.Perunchotru Udiyan Neduncheralaathan Provided food Mahabharata War.
Malayathwaja Pandya,Madurai Meenakshi’s father took part in the War.
Krishna Married a Pandyan Princess,had a daughter.
Balarama worshiped Murugan.
Satyavrata Manu,Rama’s ancestor, was a Dravida King.
Sibi,ancestor of Rama built a Vishnu Temple,Thiruvellarai,near Srirangam.
5.Tamil names in Harappa,Mohenjadaro Region,includes Town names.
சிந்துவெளி மற்றும் அரப்பாவில் ”கொற்கை, வஞ்சி, தொண்டி வளாகம்”சிந்துவெளியில் சங்கத் தமிழரின் துறைமுகங்கள், தலைநகரங்கள் மற்றும் ஊர்களின் பெயர்கள்பாகிஸ்தானிலுள்ள கொற்கை (Gorkai. Gorkhai), வஞ்சி (Vanji), தொண்டி(Tondi), மத்ரை (Matrai), உறை (Urai), கூடல் கட் (Kudal Garh) மற்றும் கோளி (Koli); ஆப்கானிஸ்தானிலுள்ள கொற்கை (Korkay. Gorkay). பூம்பகார் (Pumbakar) ஆகிய ஊர்ப் பெயர்கள் சங்க இலக்கியங்களில் குறிப்பிடப்பட்டுள்ள தலைநகரங்கள் மற்றும் துறைமுக நகரங்களின் பெயர்களான கொற்கை. வஞ்சி. தொண்டி. மதுரை. உறையூர். கூடல். கோழி. பூம்புகார் ஆகியவற்றை நினைவுபடுத்துகின்றன.’
6.The present formations of India, Arabia, Africa, Antarctica, South America and Australia started breaking up due to natural upheavals and moving to different parts of the earth at the rate of 15,000 years per mile on an average and found their places in the Asian Continent. The movement of the earth mass, called Navalam Theevu in Tamil, caused the formation of the present continent of India.(McKenzie and Sclater American Geologists).
7.Lemuria, one of the world’s oldest civilizations, about 2.5 lakh years ago, in Indonesia. Hence, Lemuria and Kumari Kandam, which existed in southern part of India, are different lands.
(Frank Joseph, Secretary for Ancient American Association, in his book “The Lost Civilization of Lemuria”, )
8.It was only during the final days of Atlantis that the Lemurians broke these seals and thus saved many surface dwellers from certain death. These people formed a society that subsequently returned for a time to the surface and became the Rama Empire situated in Southern Asia. Then the Great Flood of 8,000 BC ended this attempt to save humanity from the dark ways of the Anunnaki. (Atlantis Legend)
The points mentioned are explained in detail in the site, Category ,Tamils.
I shall locate them and share as, as usual I forgot.
This was what I intended to speak.
Question: Who here can remember the name of their great, great
grandfather?
Glory of Tamil Language
1) A language which is so structured that the sounds of the alphabet
are reflected in its very name – Tamil
2) Complex and Noble thoughts – 7 words – Tirukural. Long poetic
story in 1 sentence without full stop – Silapadikaram
3) Helps you think clearly and express precisely – because of its
The relationship between Tamil and Sanatana Dharma is intriguing.
Their relationship is one of cordiality , mutual respect and admiration for each other.
The Tamil Kings are spoken of highly in the Vedas and Puranas.
They were invited to the Swayamvara of. Damayanthi, who predates Lord Rama, Rama Sita marriage, Draupadi Swayamvara and Yudhistra’s Rajasuya Yaga.
Tamil King Udiyan Cherallathan provided food for both the Pandava and Kaurava armies during the Mahabharata War.
Vedic India
Madurai Meenakshi’s father Malayathdwaja participated in the Mahabharata war fighting along side the Pandavas.
Lord Krishna was invited to Tamil Poets ‘Conclave at Madurai(probably the Thenmadurai, now sunk) and he participated in it.
Krishna and Arjuna married Pandyan Princesses;Krishna had a daughter and had her married to a Pandyan Prince, while Arjuna had a son.
Krishna’s elder brother Balarama visited south and worshiped Lord Subrahmanya.
And of course Parashurama, who established the present Kerala.
Sage Viswamitra’s descendant Apasthamba wrote the Veda Sutra called Apasthama Sutra by integrating Tamil practices like Thaali, Mangalya, which is not found in the Vedas.
Brahmins in the south of India follow Apasthamba sutra even today.
Rama’ ancestor Vaivaswatha Manu migrated from the south to Ayodhya to found Ikshvaku Dynasty.
Manu migrated to Ayodhya because of a Tsunami recorded in Tamil Classic, Sangam Literature.
So there should have been no presence of any dynasty in the north if we go by this hypothesis .
However there was a Chola king, who ruled from North, much before the great Flood.
He was King Sibi and Cholas call themselves the descendants of Kashyapa.
This Sibi is mentioned in Tamil Literature and in Puranas a belonging to Suryavansh.
He built a temple near Srirangam in Tamil Nadu for Lord Vishnu.
It is the Thiruvellarai Pundareekakshar temple, about 20km from Srirangam
Sibi is reported to have fought an army of Asuras here.
And we have a a site of about a Million years in Chennai which belongs to advanced Tamil civilization.
Another one is at Adhichanallur which dates back to 11000 years.
Thee site refer to Sanatana Dharma.
And Sanatana Dharma refer Tamils!
Tamil Brahmi is found in Harappa.
Tamil Sangam period Towns,harbor names are found in Indus Valley Civilization.
Thee names are.
Vanji, capital of Chera Kingdom,
Gorkai, in Afghanistan
a Pandya harbor, Matrai(Madurai), Urai(Uraiyur capital of Cholas), Koodal kat(kodal, name for Madurai),in Pakistan,
‘சிந்துவெளி மற்றும் அரப்பாவில் ”கொற்கை, வஞ்சி, தொண்டி வளாகம்”
சிந்துவெளியில் சங்கத் தமிழரின் துறைமுகங்கள், தலைநகரங்கள் மற்றும் ஊர்களின் பெயர்கள்
பாகிஸ்தானிலுள்ள கொற்கை (Gorkai. Gorkhai), வஞ்சி (Vanji), தொண்டி(Tondi), மத்ரை (Matrai), உறை (Urai), கூடல் கட் (Kudal Garh) மற்றும் கோளி (Koli); ஆப்கானிஸ்தானிலுள்ள கொற்கை (Korkay. Gorkay). பூம்பகார் (Pumbakar) ஆகிய ஊர்ப் பெயர்கள் சங்க இலக்கியங்களில் குறிப்பிடப்பட்டுள்ள தலைநகரங்கள் மற்றும் துறைமுக நகரங்களின் பெயர்களான கொற்கை. வஞ்சி. தொண்டி. மதுரை. உறையூர். கூடல். கோழி. பூம்புகார் ஆகியவற்றை நினைவுபடுத்துகின்றன.
Lord Rama, whose name is found in the Sumerian King List as a King of Sumer,along with Dasaratha and Bharata, fought a war against Atlantis people to help Horus , on of Osiris,.
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Leading Osiris’s Egyptian armies was Osiris’ eldest son Horus. After Osiris’ unfortunate ‘death’, Horus succeeded his father as king of the Libyan/Egyptian Empire. Intuitively, Horus knew what would happen when they landed in Libya. He completely distrusted his uncle. Horus persistently warned his father about Seth’s stubbornness and treachery. Osiris, believing in the goodness of the human heart, initially ignored his son’s advice. Subsequently, Osiris landed in Libya and after Seth’s abdication became Emperor’
After the demise of Osiris, his son Horus entered into a pact with Rama Empire(Emperor Zata’ar’s eldest son, Prince Rama.) to defeat Seth, the usurper.’
The Atlantis army met with Rama’s Army in Rishi City, now in Pakistan…..
There were four ancient empires.
Rama’s Empire,
Atlantis Empire,
Uighur Empire and
Lemurian Empire.
Of these Uighur was not very advanced and Lemuria which had been on the wane was trying to recoup.
They were suppressed by the Atlantis people.
In the Atlantis, Osiris’ son Horus entered into an alliance with Rama to defeat Seth who was trying to become independent in the Sumerian valley.
This means that Mohenjo Daro was a flourishing civilization before the Rama War with Atlantis people.
Yet there was a Chola King much before the advent of Rama.
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The contention of Dr Parpola and the Dravidian politicians of Tamilnadu is that Tamils have descended form the IVC locations of North India. The verse by poet Kapilar in fact traces the origins of the King IrungoveL to Dwaraka. He says that he belonged to the 49th generation of the king who was born of the Sacrificial Fire conducted by the sage of the North. This king ruled Dwaraka, so says the poet. Reserving the other details of this verse for a future post, I am now concentrating on another description in that song.
( There is another interpretation on the interpretatiion of the term Sacrificial fire
Kapilar describes Dwaraka as being surrounded by walls made of copper.
நீயே, வடபால் முனிவன் தடவினுள் தோன்றிச், செம்பு புனைந்து இயற்றிய சேண்நெடும்புரிசை,
உவரா ஈகைத், துவரை ஆண்டு,
நாற்பத்து ஒன்பது வழிமுறை வந்த
வேளிருள் வேளே!
This means “O king IrungoveL! you were the 49th king in the lineage of the king, who was born of the sacrificial fire conducted by the sage and ruled Dwarka which was surrounded by long / tall walls of copper.”
From the commentary that Dr U.Ve.Sa found out form the palm leaf manuscripts :-
“நீ தான் வட பக்கத்து முனிவனுடைய ஓம குண்டத்தின் கண் தோன்றிச் செம்பால்புனைத்து செய்தாலொத்த சேய்மையை உடைத்தாகிய நெடிய மதிலை உடைய துவராவதிஎன்னும் படை வீட்டை ஆண்டு, வெறுப்பில்லாத கொடையினை உடையராய் நாற்பத்தொன்பது தலைமுறை தொன்றுபட்டு வந்த வேள்களுள் வைத்து வேளாய்உள்ளாய்!”..
‘This king was not in Dwaraka when Kapilar met him and sang this verse. He was ruling some part of the western ghats in present day’s Karnataka. This Vel’s kingdom was different from the Tamil lands of the 3 kings (Chera, Chola and Pandya). The next verse was on the same king sung by Kapilar in which he describes his land in the hills.
This king’s palace was not surrounded by walls of copper. Copper walls were there in the kingdom of his ancestors in Dwaraka.Assuming that 3 kings lived per century, we can say that 1600 years have passed by the time this 49th king had come into being. The period of this king is not exactly known, but can be deciphered from Kapilar’s other connections. Kapilar was a close friend of another VeL king, Paari who was killed by the 3 Tamil kings. Kapilar took care of Parri’s orphaned daughters and approached another Vel king, IrungoveL to request him to marry the two daughters of Paari. This verse contains that request.
So there seems to be a Dynasty belonging to Suryavansh in the North and it declined or swallowed by Tsunami from the Arabian Sea, this could have either the second or the first Great flood mentioned in the Tamil Classics.
And we have references to Sage Agastya, settling the people from the sinking Dwaraka in Tamil Nadu and the present Karnataka.
Considering all this I proposed that there could have been two Tamil Empires.
As t whether Tamils came from the Sanatana Dharma people or vice versa, it is difficult t postulate.
I am providing an abstract from one theory on this.
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Abstract
Can Sankam corpus, the ancient extant Dravidian literature, be a source to identify the language of the Indus script; a collateral evidence to estimate the ethno-linguistic composition of Indus Civilization? I seek to answer this question in affirmative.
I have located a group of place names in the Indus –Harappan geographies (modern Pakistan and adjoining regions), which I choose to call as “Korkay, Vanji, Tondi Complex.” This ‘complex’ contains perfect parallels to “Korkai-Vanji-Tondi” and many other geographical names and anthroponyms attested in Sankam Tamil texts.
I propose that these identical name-heritage complexes of the north-western geographies and the extreme south provide reliable markers for the probable migration of Dravidians following the collapse of Indus Valley Civilization. I call in the evidence of “bone-eating camel” described in Akananooru as a testimony for the earlier presence of Dravidians in the north-western geographies (particularly Gujarat).
And, I conclude that the Sankam corpus in part represents the ‘carried forward memories’ of a remote past, the coordinates of which can be traced back to the Indus Valley Civilization and late Harappan cultures and relevant geographies.’
Multiple ancient and medieval Tamil and Sanskrit works contain legendary accounts of lands in South India being lost to the ocean. The earliest explicit discussion of a katalkol (“seizure by ocean”, possibly the sea water rise) of Pandyan land is found in a commentary on Iraiyanar Akapporul. This commentary, attributed to Nakkeerar, is dated to the later centuries of the 1st millennium CE. It mentions that the Pandyan kings, an early Tamil dynasty, established three literary academies (sangams). The first two sangams were not located in South India now but in an ancient Tamil country in the south which then sank. The first sangam flourished for 4,400 years in a city called Tenmaturai, attended by 549 poets (including Agastya) and presided over by gods like Shiva, Kubera and Murugan. The second sangam lasted for 3,700 years in a city called Kapatapuram, attended by 59 poets (including Agastya, again). The commentary states that both the cities were “seized by the ocean”, resulting in loss of all the works created during the first two sangams. The third sangam was established in Uttara (North) Madurai, where it is said to have lasted for 1,850 years. The Pandyan capital of Kapatapuram finds mention in the Ramayana and Chanakya’s Arthasastra (ca 4th century BCE).
Atlantis boundaries. Plato. Tectonic boundary
Nakkeerar’s commentary does not mention the size of the territory lost to the sea. The size is first mentioned in a 15th-century commentary on Silappatikaram. The commentator Adiyarkunallar mentions that the lost land extended from Pahruli river in the north to the Kumari river in the South. It was located to the south of Kanyakumari, and covered an area of 700 kavatam (a unit of unknown measurement). It was divided into 49 territories (natu), classified in seven categories: elu teñku natu(“seven coconut lands”), elu maturai natu (“seven mango lands”), elu munpalai natu(“seven front sandy lands”), elu pinpalai natu (“seven back sandy lands”), elu kunra natu (“seven hilly lands”), elu kunakarai natu (“seven coastal lands”) and elu kurumpanai natu (“seven dwarf-palm lands”).’
Lemuria map with mountains, Rivers.
‘Multiple ancient and medieval Tamil and Sanskrit works contain legendary accounts of lands in South India being lost to the ocean. The earliest explicit discussion of a katalkol(“seizure by ocean”, possibly tsunami) of Pandyan land is found in a commentary on Iraiyanar Akapporul. This commentary, attributed to Nakkeerar, is dated to the later centuries of the 1st millennium CE. It mentions that the Pandyan kings, an early Tamil dynasty, established three literary academies (Sangams): the first Sangam flourished for 4,400 years in a city called Tenmaturai, attended by 549 poets (including Agastya) and presided over by gods like Shiva, Kubera and Murugan. The second Sangam lasted for 3,700 years in a city called Kapatapuram, attended by 59 poets (including Agastya, again). The commentary states that both the cities were “seized by the ocean”, resulting in loss of all the works created during the first two Sangams. The third Sangam was established in Uttara (North) Madurai, where it is said to have lasted for 1,850 year’
Consider the following facts.
1..The Vedas mention Tamil kings and goods like Sandalwood,Pearls having been imported from Dravida Desa, Dravida means Sooth.
2.Vaivswatha Manu, the first of the present Kali Yuga, meditated in plateau near Madagascar before migrating to Ayodhya.
3.Ancestor of Rama, Nala visited Thirunallaru, Pondicherry. .
The temple at Thirunallaru is dedicated to Shani, Saturn and is a place where one goes on Pilgrimage to ward off Saturn’s malfeasance.
Nala visited the Pond in the temple, called Nala Theertha to ward off Saturn’s effects.
Nala Theertha is still there at Thirunallar and people follow the same tradition is followed even to day.
4.Mahabharata refers to Nala having visited the place in the Vana Parva.
5.Tami kings were present in the Swayamvra of Damayanti, who later became the wife of Nala.
6.Tami Kings were present in Sita’s and Draupadi’s Swayamvara.
7.Madurai Meenakshi’s father fought along side the Pandavas in the Mahabharata battle.
8.Tamil King Udiyan Cheralaathan fed both the Pandava’s and the Kaurva Army in Mahabharata war.
9.Lord Krishna, Arjuna, Balarama,Sahadeva were on a Pilgrimage to south.
10.Tamil Kings were present in Yudhitra’s Rajasuya Yaaga.
11.Shiva and Subrahmanya were worshiped widely in the south much before than the Sanatana Dharma .
12.Patanjali who founded the Yoga System learned it from Lord Shiva/Agastya from the south.
12.Sage Agastya who is considered as a co founder of Tamil along with Lord Shiva and Subrahmanya (called as Murugan in Tamil) is found in New Zealand.
13.Maoris and other aboriginal tribes still speak a corrupted form of Tamil.
14. Australian Tribes perform Shiva’s Trinetra dance even today.
15.Tamil ancestry has been found among the Mu, Sumerian civilizations.
16.Lord Ram waged a War against Atlantis when an atom bomb was dropped in Mohenjadaro.
You may read detailed article on each of these by googling the search term +ramanan 50.
Now to the size of Lemuria,
Lemuria was located to the south of Kanyakumari, and covered an area of 700 kavatam, staes Nakkerar in his commentry of Iraiynar Agapporul.
Irayanar refers to Lord Shiva.
This work belongs to Sangam Era of Tamil and is lost ans known by its reference to it in the later Tamil works.
The distance from Kanykumari to Zealand is 11.204 Km.
One Kavatam is equivalent to 10 Miles and seven Hundred Kavatam is 7000 Miles .
Lemuria extended from North to South from Kanykumari to new Zealand, 7000 Miles!
From the East to West.
‘There have been numerous locations picked for Atlantis, from Sweden to Indonesia. Nearly all of them are wrong. Plato was quite clear on the location. All of the others are, by definition, not Atlantis. According to Timaeus and Critias, the two dialogues which are the source of the Atlantis story, the lost island was beyond the Strait of Gibraltar, in the Atlantic Ocean. The nearest portion of Atlantis was facing a region in Southwestern Spain called Gadira. This is the region surrounding modern Cádiz (Phoenician Gadir, Roman Gades and Moorish Qādis). Most claimants ignore this very specific detail from Critias”
That is , from to Spain, the outer most reach of Atlantis towards East to Kanykumari is,
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