Tag: Ikshvaku Dynasty

  • Muchukunda Chozha Ruled From North  Western India with Mandhata

    Muchukunda Chozha Ruled From North Western India with Mandhata

    In my earlier articles I wrote about the Chozha Kings and their genealogy. The Chozhas declare themselves to be from Ikshvaku Dynasty and have recorded this in Thiruvalankadu Copperplates.

    When we check the genealogy of Ikshvaku Dynasty, we find that Muchukunda, though shown in the dynasty, did not become a king after his father Mandhata.

    Kings after Muchukunda Chozha.

    Mandhata
    Muchukunda
    Valabha
    Prithulaksha
    Parthivachudamani
    Dirghabahu
    Chandrajit
    Sankriti
    Panchapa
    Satyavrata
    Rudrajit
    Sibi
    Marutta
    Dushyanta
    Bharata
    Cholavarman
    Rajakesarivarman
    Parakesarin
    Chitraratha
    Chitrasva
    ChitradhanvanGenealogy from Chola Inscriptions

    When we compare the list ,that is as mentioned by Cholas and by Sanskrit texts as Ikshvaku Dynasty, we find that Muchukunda Chozha did not come to power after Mandhata. Mandhata is succeeded by his son Purukutsa I.The reason is that Mandhata married a Yadava princess and of her was born Muchukunda.

    (Yuvanashwa Father of Mandhata https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MandhatriSpouse-Bindumati Chaitrarathi-

    Children-Purukutsa, Ambarisha and Muchukunda)

    Mandhata married Bindumati Chaitrarathi, daughter of Yadava king Shashabindu and granddaughter of Chitraratha.

    As Muchukunda did not succeed Mandhata in the lineage as shown in Ikshvaku Dynasty list it is because Mandhata’s son Muchukunda was through the Yadava princess Chaitrarathi.

    Muchukunda , it may be theorised that he ruled the area ruled by Mandhata who is the first recorded Chakravarthi in Indian texts, Shodasha Rajika , Great Emperors ‘Mandhata on assuming power organized a strong army and led a series of expedition against his neighbouring kingdoms. The rulers of Kashi and Maithila and his uncle Tansu, the ruler of Prathisthan accepted his suzerainty. Other important rulers whom Mandhata vanquished were Janmejaya the king of Anavas, the Yadava king Sasabindu of Mahishamati and Marutta a king described as one of the five great emperors of ancient India and ruling over territory around North West India. The Asura kingdoms of Varshikha and Narmani were also subdued. Mandhata had a long war with the Druhyu king Angara who ruled over Punjab and finally killed him and conquered his kingdom. Angara’s son Gandhara accepted the suzerainty of Mandhata, moved towards North-West (Afghanistan) and gave his name to that region.https://ithihas.wordpress.com/2017/10/15/mandhata-the-first-samrat-of-ancient-india/

    His other brother Ambareesa was married to Yadav dynasty,which is a sub division of Puru Dynasty (aka Chandra vansh or Lunar Dynasty) .And Muchukunda Chozha Ruled along with his father Mandhata North and North Western Provinces of present India.

    • King Magadha founded Magadha Kingdom.
    • Sudhanva was the nephew of King Magadha
    • Sudhanu
    • Suhotra
    • Chyavana
    • Chavana
    • Krtri
    • Kriti
    • Krta
    • Krtyagya
    • Krtavirya
    • Krtasena
    • Krtaka
    • Uparichara Vasu (Devotee of Lord Vishnu and a friend of Devaraja Indra) conquered Chedi Kingdom. Puru and Yadava Dynasty

    (In his family was born Chitraratha who bore the title Vyaghraketu after his banner on which was the figure of a tiger.  He also bore as an ornament on his head the flowers of the dhataki (v. 37).[11] His son was Narendrapati who became king at the end of the Treta age.)  His son was king Vasu entitled Uparichara on account of his having received a celestial car from Indra by which he moved about in all directions South Indian inscriptions. Thiruvalankadu Copperplates

  • Manu Dynasties Saptha Rishi Star Visitations Study  Part I

    Manu Dynasties Saptha Rishi Star Visitations Study Part I

    Manu’ s Sons and Their Kingdoms.

    Manu was the first Man . He was from the South of Vindhyas. When a Tsunami struck, he moved to Ayodhya . His son Ikshvaku founded the Suryavansh,Solar Dynasty.Manu had ,apart from Ikshvaku ,one Daughter Ila and Nine brothers.Ila married Chandra’s son Budha and their Dynasty was called Chandravansh,after Pururavas.This Dynasty is also called as Aila Dynasty and Ailas seemed to have lived in the western region of the Present Indian landmass,probably around Arabia.Please read my articles on this. Manu’s other sons, for various reasons did not seem to be as enterprising as Manu’s son Ikshvaku in establishing a Dynasty.

    It is recorded that Ila ,along with Budha founded the Lunar Dynasty, Chandravansh;from One of the sons of Manu, Agnivesa,Brahmin Dynasty came into being; From Trinabindu, descendant of Nabhaga,son of Manu,came Ilavida and she gave birth to Kubera, who ruled what is now Lanka. Kubera is recorded to be the elder brother of Ravana.Ravana was the son of Vishrava, Brother of Sage Pulasthya, Brother Agastya.Agastya was the son of Brahma..* Here comes a point. Though Manu is reported to have sprung from Vivaswan,Surya,Sun, and recorded as first Human, Offspring of Saptha Rishis are shown as progenitors of Human race.For example Daksha.Saptha Rishis change for each Manvantara.For the present Vaiwasvatha Manvantara,the Saptha, Seven Rishis are, Atri, Bhrigu,Kuthsa, Vasishta,Gautama,Kasyapa and Angirasa.( There are variations to these names).The possibilities are a) Some Rishis like Angirasa,Bharatwaja founded some Kingdoms which are not under the landmass of present India; b) the beings like Ramba,Kubera, are beings of a different plane like the Adithyas,Rudras and Devas who are the children of Sage Kasyapa.So, this opens the possibility of a) Visitation by beings from outer space or b) existence of such beings in a different plane and c ) they visit us.Though it sounds preposterous, facts mentioned in Purana,which I had checked till now,stand the test of scrutiny.So, it is logical to search further to unravel the seemingly impossible.

    One may note that Ila Dynasty progressed in what is now the South and Far East, in ancient days and we can find Hinduism remains and practices there even today,including Angkorvat temple complex,Siva trinetra dance in Australia,presence of Kasyapa in New Zealand.Except those belonging to Ikshvaku and Chandravansh,other dynasties do not seem to have survived, though the other dynasties like Yadu sprang from them.Notable exception is the The Three Great Kings’ Dynasties of Tamils,Chera,Chola and Pandya. Yet these three trace their origin to Ikshvaku and Lunar Dynasty.Lunar Dynasty was mostly ,as far as Tamils are concerned, through Ila ,thrived in South,Lanka and around that area,which included? Tamilakam. So, this gives rise to Lemuria, Kumarikandam , Atlantis and MU civilisations.

    More to follow.

    Northern North  Central Kingdoms

    • Kuru
    • Panchala
    • Vatsa ||

    Kingdoms of North-Central India

    • Kosala
    • Kasi
    • Videha
    • Dakshina Kosala
    • Malla

    Kingdoms of Western and West-Central India

    • Surasena
    • Dwaraka
    • Anarta
    • Saurashtra
    • Heheya
    • Nishada
    • Gurjara
    • Karusha
    • Chedi
    • Dasrana
    • Kunti
    • Avanti
    • Malava

    North-Northwestern (Fishermen’s) kingdoms

    • Matsya

    Western kingdoms

    • Trigartha
    • Salwa
    • Madra
    • Sindhu
    • Sauvira
    • Sivi
    • Kekeya
    • Gandhara
    • Youdheya
    • Pahlava

    Northwestern kingdoms

    • Bhalika
    • Parma Khamboja
    • Uttara Madra
    • Uttara Kuru
    • Yavana
    • Lhasa
    • Saka

    Northern kingdoms

    • Kasmira
    • Kamboja
    • Drada
    • Parada
    • Parasika
    • Tushara
    • Huna
    • Harahuna
    • Rishika
    • China
    • Paramus China

    Eastern kingdoms

    • Magada
    • Kikata
    • Anga
    • Pragjyotisha
    • Sonita
    • Lauhitya
    • Pundra
    • Sushma
    • Vanga
    • Odra
    • Utkala

    Kingdoms South of the Vindhya Range

    • Vidarba
    • Anupa
    • Suparaka
    • Nasikya
    • Konkana
    • Asmaka
    • Danda
    • Kalinga

    Kingdoms in the extreme South

    • Telinga
    • Andhra
    • Kishkinds
    • Gomanta
    • Karnata
    • Kanchi
    • Chola
    • Pandya
    • Chera
    • Mushika
    • Satyaputra
    • Tulu
    • Sinhala

    Saraswati Valley kingdoms

    • Saraswatha
    • Abhira
    • Sudra
    • Nishada

    Reference and citation.

    http://veda.wikidot.com/kingdoms-of-ancient-india

    Following is the detail of what had happened to Ikshvaku’s brothers (Manu’s sons)

    This Second Chapter describes the dynasties of the sons of Manu, headed by Karūṣa.After Sudyumna accepted the order of vānaprastha and departed for the forest, VaivasvataManu, being desirous of sons, worshiped the Supreme Personality of Godhead and consequently begot ten sons like MahārājaIkṣvāku, all of whom were like their father. One of these sons, Pṛṣadhra, was engaged in the duty of protecting cows at night with a sword in his hand. Following the order of his spiritual master, he would stand in this way for the entire night. Once, in the darkness of night, a tiger seized a cow from the cowshed, and when Pṛṣadhra came to know this, he took a sword in his hand and followed the tiger. Unfortunately, when he finally approached the tiger, he could not distinguish between the cow and the tiger in the dark, and thus he killed the cow. Because of this, his spiritual master cursed him to take birth in a śūdra family, but Pṛṣadhra practiced mystic yoga, and in bhaktiyoga he worshiped the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Then he voluntarily entered a blazing forest fire, thus relinquishing his material body and going back home, back to Godhead.Kavi, the youngest son of Manu, was a great devotee of the Supreme Personality of Godhead from his very childhood. From Manu’s son known as Karūṣa, a sect of kṣatriyas known as Kārūṣas was generated. Manu also had a son known as Dhṛṣṭa, from whom another sect of kṣatriyas was generated, but although they were born of one who had the qualities of a kṣatriya, they became brāhmaṇas. From Nṛga, another son of Manu, came the sons and grandsons known as Sumati, Bhūtajyoti and Vasu. From Vasu, in succession, came Pratīka, and from him came Oghavān. Descending in order from the seminal dynasty of Nariṣyanta, another son of Manu, were Citrasena, Ṛkṣa, MīḍhvānPūrṇaIndrasenaVītihotra, Satyaśravā, Uruśravā, Devadatta and Agniveśya. From the kṣatriya known as Agniveśya came the celebrated brāhmaṇa dynasty known as Āgniveśyāyana. From the seminal dynasty of Diṣṭa, another son of Manu, came Nābhāga, and from him in succession came Bhalandana, Vatsaprīti, Prāṁśu, Pramati, Khanitra, Cākṣuṣa, Viviṁśati, Rambha, Khanīnetra, Karandhama, Avīkṣit, Marutta, Dama, Rājyavardhana, Sudhṛti, NaraKevalaDhundhumānVegavānBudha and Tṛṇabindu. In this way, many sons and grandsons were born in this dynasty. From Tṛṇabindu came a daughter named Ilavilā, from whom Kuvera took birth. Tṛṇabindu also had three sons, named Viśāla, Śūnyabandhu and Dhūmraketu. The son of Viśāla was Hemacandra, his son was Dhūmrākṣa, and his son was Saṁyama. The sons of Saṁyama were Devaja and Kṛśāśva. Kṛśāśva’s son, Somadatta, performed an Aśvamedha sacrifice, and by worshiping the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Viṣṇu, he achieved the supreme perfection of going back home, back to Godhead.

    https://prabhupadabooks.com/sb/9/2?d=1

  • Chozha Manu Dynasty List Tamil Confirms Purana Ikshvaku Genealogy

    Chozha Manu Dynasty List Tamil Confirms Purana Ikshvaku Genealogy

    During my research into the History of India, cross referencing Sanskrit Textural information with Tamil, an ancient language of India, I have found corroboration of the facts/ information mentioned in Sanskrit Texts, Puranas and Ithihasas in Tamil literature. This, despite the misinformation that Tamil is inimical to Sanatana Dharma ,Vedic Way of Living.

    I have written a number of articles disproving the Aryan Theory; the Tamils and Vedic people lived alongside amicably; they intermarried;Vedic practices were followed by Tamils: Tamil concepts were integrated into Vedic Sutras,like Apasthamba sutra on Mangalya Dharana.I had also written that the Chozhas, one of the three Ancient dynasties of Tamils,descended from Manu,were a part of Ikshvaku Dynasty.This has been declared by Chozhas in their Epigraphs in Kanyakumari,among others, and numerous Copperplates evidence, including one at Thiruvaalangadu.I am posting the Dynasty of Manu from Bhagavatham below.

    Manu Dynasty (Ikshvaku)- Srimad Bhagavatham

    • Brahma
    • Marichi, one of the 10 Prajapatis created by Brahma.
    • Kashyapa, son of Marichi and Kala Bo. Kashyapa is regarded as the father of humanity.
    • Vivasvat or Surya, son of Kashyapa and Aditi.
    • Shraddhadeva Manu, originally Satyavrata, son of Vivasvan and Saranyu (Saṃjñā) https://religion.wikia.org/wiki/Shraddhadeva_Manu

    Manu Dynasty-Vikrama Chozha Ula, In Tamil

    Manu Dynasty by Vikrama Chola Ula(Moovar Ula)
    • பிரமன், உலகம் படைத்தவன்
    • (Brahma,The Creator)
    • காசிபன், பிரமன் மகன் (Kasyapa’ Son of Brahma)
    • மரீசி, மேதக்க மையறு காட்சியன்( Marichi, one who can discern Truth, Unbiased(Father of Kasyapa’)
    • சூரியன், எல்லாளன்,(Surya,Sun,who runs around in a Chariot with one Wheel) ஒற்றைச் சக்கரத் தேரில் வருவோன்
    • மனுச்சோழன், ( Manu, the Chozha,the one who dispensed Justice to a Cow)பசுவுக்கு நீதி வழங்கியவன் 
    • ஆடுதுறை அறனாளன், புலியும் மானும் ஒரே துறையில் நீருண்ணச் செய்தவன் 
    • * I shall explain the names below in forthcoming articles.
    • வானூர்தி அரசன்
    • தேவருலகைக் காத்தவன்
    • வேள்வியில் பெற்ற மந்திரத்தைக் கூற்றுவனுக்குச் சொல்லிக்கொடுத்தவன்,
    • முதுமக்கள்-தாழி செய்தளித்து எமனை வென்றவன்
    • தூங்கும் எயில் எறிந்த சோழன்
    • மேலைக்கடல் நீரைக் கீழைக்கடலில் பாயச்செய்தவன்
    • நாக-கன்னியை மணந்தவன், குகை வழியே நாகலோகம் சென்றவன்
    • சிபிச் சக்கரவர்த்தி, தான் வளர்த்த புறாவுக்காகத் தன்னையே தராசில் நிறுத்துப் பருந்துக்கு இரையாக அளித்தவன்

    https://ta.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8A%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%8B%E0%AE%B4%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D

    One may note that,

    • Chozha genealogy tallies with Matsya Purana,Vishnu Purana.
    • The Order of Kings is not followed in Tamil.
    • Marici is the father of Kasyapa.Tamil says it is the other way around,which is incorrect.
    • However, Names of other Kings tally.
    • Surya,Sun is mentioned in Tamil as well as the First of the Dynasty, Kasyapa and Marici being Rishis.
    • Tamil conveys the purport of Sisumara Chakra aspect of Surya, by calling Sun as ‘ one who drives a chariot with one Wheel.
    • Tamil also calls Sun as one who rules lands within all Boundaries, implying that Sun covers the whole land.
    • Marici is known for his truthfulness. Tamil also records this by calling him as ‘Mythakka Mayaru Kaatchiyon.
    • Manu is correctly called as the son of Surya,Sun.
    • Tamil adds one information that Manu dispensed Justice to a Cow. Though this information is available in Sanskrit Texts, it does not specify Manu.Shall check.

    Other names in classical Tamil indicate the names of Kings as found in Sanskrit Texts. It needs deciphering.I shall post in forthcoming articles.

    The Manu Dynasty list mentioned here is from Tamil literature Moovar Ula,Parade of Three Great Kings.It was written by poet Ottakoothar,in praise of Vikrama Chola,His son Kulothunga Chola II and his son, Rajaraja Chola II . There are 342, 387, 391 poems respectively about each King. Each poem is in two lines.

    Citation and reference.

    https://ta.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%82%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%BE

  • Dravidian Roots of Sri Rama

    The Aryan Invasion Theory floated by the British to divide and rule India through paid missionaries like Max Mueller, who under the garb of translating ancient texts of India, sowed the seeds of Divisive tendencies, is long dead and and buried.

    The new Archeological finds in India, Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere have provided evidence to the presence of Sanatan Dharm and the so called Dravidian Culture coexisted amicably. Presence of Tamil Brahmi Script, Murugan’ s Kavadi( a sort of Bamboo balance used by the Faithful to carry it to Murugan’s temple as a practice), in Harappa ,the establishment of a second capital by a Chozha King, Sibi, aka Sivi, in what is now the SWAT region of Pakistan are a few examples.

    The Vedas and ancient Tamil classics refer to two distinct landmasses. One, the land of Tamils and another land of Aryas, Aryavarta.These texts also mention other lands like Yavanas(Greeks)Chinese, calling them as milechas.

    The term milechas is used by Vedic and puranic texts denote people who deny the authority of the Vedas and in general were Atheists.

    However,Tamils were called as Dasyus,the term indicating people who follow Sanatan Dharma but do not follow Fire Worship,which was primary in Vedic period. Other than this, Tamils were following the concept of God as found in Vedas and in even refined the Concept.

    Earliest available Grammar work of Tamil , Tholkaappiyam, divides the land of Tamils into five regions .They are,

    Kurinji( mountainous region),Mullai( Forest lands,Marutham(Arable land),Neydhal(Land consisting of ocean and surroundings and Paalai( Desert Region).

    Each region was assigned a God. Kurinji-Murugan, Subrahmanya;Mullai- Vishnu; Marutham-Indra; Neydhal – Varuna and Paalai – Durga ,called Kotravai.

    In addition to this, the five Great epics of Tamils,

    • Silappadikaaram
    • Chhevakachinthamani
    • Valayapathi
    • Kundalakesi
    • Manimekalai

    These five great epics of Tamil Sangam Period speak highly of Sanatan Dharma, though Cheevakachinthamnai speaks more about Jainism.Other Sangam works.Aatruppadai Anthologies, Maduraikkkanchi , Puranaanuru ,Aganaanuru and other texts refer to Sanatan dharma.I have mentioned only a few as the list is endless.The Bakthi Literature of Naayanmars, and Azhwars of the Middle Ages have made such a rich contribution to Bhakthi Yoga, that if one removes them from Tamil Language, Tamil Language would become soulless.

    Vedas Reference to Tamil

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    Madurai 360 view

    The Vedas refer to Tamils and Tamil Kingdoms , right from the Rig Vedic Period.The Rig Vedic Hymns state that the special items for performance of Yagnya , Akil( a Type of Incense from log), Sandalwood,Spices,Tusks and elephants, are to be procured from Tamil( Pandya Kingdom).The reference of Shiva in Tamil Classical literature is quite exhaustive.The early Avatars of Siva are mentioned in Thiruvilayaadal Puranam.Siva is regarded as the Founder of Tamil Language, along with Agastya and He gave the custody of Tamil to His son Subrahmanya, aka Murugan in Tamil. The Text Irayanar Agapporul, a treatise ‘called ‘The study of stolen love’” is attributed to Shiva, in His Avatar as Chokkanatha, who ruled Madurai.The core sixty verses were reported to have been composed under Altar of Chokkanatha in Madurai Meenakshi Amman Temple.Tamil and Sanskrit have emerged from the Damaru of Siva simultaneously and the ancient Tamil and Sanskrit had fifty one letters each and they represent the Fifty Aksharas of Devi.

    Mahabharata References.

    Madurai Meenakhi’s( Presiding deity of Madurai Meenaksi Amman Temple) Father Malayathdwaja, also called Saranga took part in Mahabharatha Battle and he fought valiantly against Drona.The refernce is found in Vyasa Mahabharata.

    A Chera King, Perun chotru Udiyan Neduncheralaathan fed both Kaurava and Pandya Armies in the Epic battle of Mahabharata.

    Arjuna, Bheema went on a pilgrimage to South and they mariied Tamil Brides, Bheema a Naga ,Arjuna a Pandyan Parincess.

    Krishna took part in the Second Conclave of Poets in Kavatam, Kapatapuram as Chief Guest.Krishna married a Pandyan Princess and had a Daughter whom he married off to A pandyan Prince.Krishna gave away 101 Families as Dowry to His daughter at Madurai.Silappadikaaram, one of the great epics in Tamil mentions this in Aaychiyar Kuravai.

    References to Sanatana Dharma By Tamil Kings, Epigraphs, Copperplates.

    Thiruvaalangadu Copperplates, found in Thiruvcaalankadu, near Chennai state that the Chozhas Belong to Ilshvaaku Dynsty of Rama.Chozhas have traced their ancestry to Solar/Suryavansh.They also declare that the belong to Kasyapa Gotra.These Copperplates belong to Rajendra Chola, son of the Great Rajaraja Chozha.This information is reinforced in Kanyakumari Epigraphs.Tamil Epic Silappadikaaram devotes an entire chapter to the Raasa Leela of Krishna as Aaychiyar Kuravai .Vedic symbols are found in ancient Coins issued by Tamil Kings.Chozha Kings use the Title Sembiyan.This term is from King Sibi( Sivi) who was a chozha King, a predecessor of Rama.

    Copper plates belonging to Chera ,Udiyan Cheralaathan and Karaikal Chozha mention that these kings granted lands to Brahmins ,ordaining them to perform Vedic Rites,Agnihotra daily.

    Udiyan Cheralaathan performed Tharpana for the Dead in Mahabharata battle , in Chera Kingdom. Tamil Sangam literature records this.

    Dravidian Roots of Rama.

    Rama belongs to Ikshvaku Dynasty. Ikshvakku is the son of Manu, First Human.Manu was a Dravida King.

    I found a sloka in the Bhaghavatham which states that Satyavata Manu, the ancestor of Lord Rama was a Dravidian.

    “Yo ‘sau satyavrato nāma, rājarṣir draviḍeśvaraḥ

    Jñānaḿ yo ‘tīta-kalpānte, lebhe puruṣa-sevayā

    Sa vai vivasvataḥ putro, manur āsīd iti śrutam

    Tvattas tasya sutāḥ proktā, ikṣvāku-pramukhā”

    -Srimad Bhagavatham 9.1.2-3

    yaḥ asau — he who was known;

    satyavrataḥ — Satyavrata;

    nāma — by the name;

    rāja-ṛṣiḥ — the saintly king;

    draviḍa-īśvaraḥ — the ruler (lord, master) of the Draviḍa countries;

    jñānam — knowledge

    ; yaḥ — one who;

    atīta-kalpa-ante — at the end of the last kalpa,

    lebhe — received;

    puruṣa-sevayā — by rendering service to the Purusha;

    saḥ — he;

    vai — indeed;

    vivasvataḥ — of Vivasvān;

    putraḥ — son;

    manuḥ āsīt — was  the Vaivasvata Manu;

    iti — thus;

    śrutam — I have already heard;

    tvattaḥ — from you;

    tasya — his;

    sutāḥ — sons;

    proktāḥ — have been explained;

    ikṣvāku-pramukhāḥ — headed by Ikṣvāku;

    nṛpāḥ — many kings.

    That saintly king and ruler (king) of the Dravida Countries who was known by the name of Satyavrata, at the end of the last kalpa (before the Pralaya) .. received knowledge by service to The Purusha, he indeed was Vaivaswata Manu, the son of Vivaswan, his sons have been proclaimed as the kings, famous as the Ikshvakus.Srimad Bhagavadham. 9.1.2.3

    Sagara ,Ramas Ancetor Link.

    ‘Sagara) is a prominent king of the Suryavansha dynasty in Satya Yuga. He has two wives, one a princess of the Vidarbha, and the other from royal lineage of Sivi,’ a Chozha King.

    Details of the lineages of Ramayana and Seetha are described in the Bala Kanda of Valmiki Ramayana.

    naabhaagasya bhabhuuva aja ajaat dasharatho abhavat |
    asmaat dasharathaat jaatau bhraatarau raama lakSmaNau || 1-70-43

    43. naabhaagasya aja bhabhuuva= Naabhaaga’s, Aja, became – son; ajaat dasharathaH abhavat= from Aja, Dasharatha, is manifest; asmaat dasharathaat= from him, from Dasharatha,; bhraatarau raama lakSmaNau jaatau= brothers, Rama, Lakshmana, are born.

    “Aja was Naabhaaga’s son and from Aja, this Dasharatha is manifest, and from him, from this Dasharatha, these brothers, Rama and Lakshmana are born… [1-70-43]’

    Rama was the son of Dasaratha and therefore the grandson of Aja.

    Aja married Indumathi,a Pandyan Princess at her Swayamvara.

    Details of the lineages of Ramayana and Seetha are described in the Bala Kanda of Valmiki Ramayana.

    naabhaagasya bhabhuuva aja ajaat dasharatho abhavat |
    asmaat dasharathaat jaatau bhraatarau raama lakSmaNau || 1-70-43

    43. naabhaagasya aja bhabhuuva= Naabhaaga’s, Aja, became – son; ajaat dasharathaH abhavat= from Aja, Dasharatha, is manifest; asmaat dasharathaat= from him, from Dasharatha,; bhraatarau raama lakSmaNau jaatau= brothers, Rama, Lakshmana, are born.

    “Aja was Naabhaaga’s son and from Aja, this Dasharatha is manifest, and from him, from this Dasharatha, these brothers, Rama and Lakshmana are born… [1-70-43]’

    Rama was the son of Dasaratha and therefore the grandson of Aja.

    Aja married Indumathi,a Pandyan Princess at her Swayamvara.

    This is mentioned in Balakanda of Ramayana and Raghu Vamsa of Kalidasa.

    Rama’s sister Shantha married Rishyashrunga,from Sringeri,Karnataka.

    Tamil Kings attended the Swayamvara of Nala and Damayanthi, ancestors of Rama

    Rama, Atlantis, Lemuria.

    As Rama’s name has been found in the Sumerian King List, I checked Mesopotamia and Sumeria back ground.

    We find Sanatana Dharma remains in these areas,not restricted to Rama alone.

    There were three civilizations since 30,000 years ago.

    30,000 BC

    First Illuminatus, Gruad, rules in Atlantis.

    15,000 BC

    Tiahuanaco, the height of the Lemurian remnant, begins construction.

    According to historians, Kuadam was very close to Tiruchendur. Abraham Pandithar says that Greeks in those days named it as Periplus port’ ( Wiki)

    The Tami land extended from Kapadapuram to Then Madurai.

    The distance is about 7460Kms and the western side the land stretched to Africa!( 700 Katham)

    In this area there were 49 Tamil Kingdoms, called Ezheezh Nadukal( 7*7 countries).

    Adiyarkunallar mentions that the lost land extended from Pahruli river in the north to the Kumari river in the South. It was located to the south of Kanyakumari, and covered an area of 700 kavatam (a unit of unknown measurement). It was divided into 49 territories (natu), classified in the following seven categories:

    • Elu teñku natu (“Seven coconut lands”)
    • Elu Maturai natu (“Seven mango lands”)
    • Elu munpalai natu (“Seven front sandy lands”)
    • Elu pinpalai natu (“Seven back sandy lands”)
    • Elu kunra natu (“Seven hilly lands”)
    • Elu kunakarai natu (“Seven coastal lands”)
    • Elu kurumpanai natu (“Seven dwarf-palm lands”)(wiki)

    Many Tamil Hindu shrines have legendary accounts of surviving the floods mentioned in Hindu mythology. These include the prominent temples of Kanyakumari, Kanchipuram, Kumbakonam, Madurai, Sirkazhi and Tiruvottiyur.[8]:57–69 There are also legends of temples submerged under the sea, such as the Seven Pagodas of Mahabalipuram. The Puranas place the beginning of the most popular Hindu flood myth – the legend of Manu – in South India. The Sanskrit-language Bhagavata Purana (dated 500 BCE-1000 CE) describes its protagonist Manu (aka Satyavrata) as the Lord of Dravida (South India). TheMatsya Purana (dated 250–500 CE) also begins with Manu practicing tapas on Mount Malaya of South India.[8]:57 Manimeghalai (dated around 6th century CE) mentions that the ancient Chola port city of Kavirippumpattinam (present-day Puhar) was destroyed by a flood. It states that this flood was sent by the Hindu deity Indra, because the King forgot to celebrate a festival dedicated to him.

    There are refernces in Atlantis legends that the earth had an inner core populated with people.

    “The first is Mother Earth’s inner crust, which is a continuation of the external surface crust. The two Polar Regions each have a large entrance or hole, somewhat like a cored apple, and the crust wraps itself down and around the mantle into the hollow interior. The outer and inner crusts have very similar topography: Both comprise oceans, continents, mountain ranges, lakes, and rivers. It is merely that the inner crust faces the Earth’s core. This core glows and is surrounded by a cloudy veil. The light given off is more diffuse that the light of the Sun, so the daylight in inner Earth is softer and gentler than on the Earth’s external surface. The second main feature of inner Earth is the so-called cavern worlds. These are immense hollows within the mantle, some of which are natural features created by Mother Earth, while others were made using the advanced technology of inner Earth’s major society, the land of Aghartha. This land is the last living remnant of Earth’s second Galactic Federation colony, Lemuria.

    Lemuria, in her original form, was a surface society with a subterranean component. The primary capital city was situated on the large island that sank beneath the waves of the Pacific some 25,000 years ago. A secondary capital city was located in inner Earth. It was to this city that the government of Lemuria moved after the cataclysm. The new ruler of the surface, the Empire of Atlantis, ordered the major tunnel entrances to be sealed. It was only during the final days of Atlantis that the Lemurians broke these seals and thus saved many surface dwellers from certain death. These people formed a society that subsequently returned for a time to the surface and became the Rama Empire situated in Southern Asia. Then the Great Flood of 8,000 BC ended this attempt to save humanity from the dark ways of the Anunnaki. Despite this setback, Lemuria persisted in her role of protecting the surface world from these havoc-wreaking rapscallions. It was her galactic emissaries that maintained membership for this solar system in the Galactic Federation.

    After the Great Flood and the demise of the Rama Empire, the Lemurians regrouped and named their newly combined society Aghartha. The capital Shamballah was relocated to a cavern located far beneath the city of Lhasa in modern Tibet. Many tunnels connect Shamballah to the surface in the Himalayas. These were used by holy men who came to spread their great energy and divine wisdom to the outside world. In this area, an extraordinary place was kept for special occasions, where holy men and their chosen disciples met in order to maintain Mother Earth’s sacred energy grids. This work, together with numerous rituals performed daily throughout inner Earth, is largely responsible for keeping alive the divine energy that is Lemuria’s main legacy to the surface peoples of Mother Earth. Lemuria, and later on Aghartha, have continuously held the Light for your transformation back into fully conscious Beings of Light.”( Source. http://www.paoweb.com/sn020706.htm)

    The term Kapatam means Window.

    Probably the reference in the Atlantis legend means Kapadapuram when they say Lemurians emerge from the sea.

    The Kapadapuram was established by  a Tamil Pandya King .

    ‘With this loss of the large territories of the Pandiya country and the demise the Paandiya king Kadungkon, the next successor to Paandiyan throne was the king Paandiyan Nediyoan. This king escaped the great disaster and moved more towards the north and captured many new regions including parts of Chera and Chola countries and made them into a new Pandiyan country.

    He distributed the captured lands to his subjects who met the loss of their own lands but possibly escaped this great tragedy, made him get the title “Nilam Tharu Thiruvit Pandiyan” (which means: “the Pandiyan who made the kind gesture of lands”) and as “Nilam Tharu Thiruvit Nediyoan”.

    The Paandiyan king Nediyon built his new capital city at Kapaadapuram (Kavaadam) closer to the sea. The Paandiyan king with a view of preventing further sea disasters had a festival in celeberation for the Sea God, and hence he was known as “Munneer Vilavu Nediyon” (Munner Vilavu = Sea (God) celeberation) and also as “Vadivalamba nintra Paandiyan”.

    He also excavated a new artificial river named “Pahruli Aaru” flowing through the city of Kapaadapuram towards the sea of the Indian Ocean possibly to make the region fertile and self sufficient in water.

    He also re-organised the Second Thamil Sangam at Kapaadapuram and as an initial measure requested the renowned Tamil Poet of the period the Tholkaappianaar to compose a new Tamil Grammer, as the original Tamil Grammer composed during the period of first Thamil Sangam by the great Poet Agaththiyar known as Ahaththiyam, apparently was lost in the great Land Slide in which the first capital city ‘Then Mathurai’ (South Mathurai) also known as “Naan maadak Koodal” went under sea.

    (Source.  http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthread.php?9994-A-brief-study-on-the-Pandiyas-(Paandiyar)-of-the-quot-Second-Sangam-quot-Period-of-Tamil-Nadu)

    “. The new ruler of the surface, the Empire of Atlantis, ordered the major tunnel entrances to be sealed. It was only during the final days of Atlantis that the Lemurians broke these seals and thus saved many surface dwellers from certain death. These people formed a society that subsequently returned for a time to the surface and became the Rama Empire situated in Southern Asia. Then the Great Flood of 8,000 BC ended this attempt to save humanity from the dark ways of the Anunnaki.”

    The Atlantis people’ sealing the Lemurians’ probably means the Mascarene plateau.

    Lemuria existed south of this plateau, which was consumed by the sea about 6000 years ago.

    The surfacing of Rama dynasty may indicate the fact that Satyavrata Manu ancestor of Rama had migrated to Ayodhya(whose son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku Dynasty) and the subsequent emergence of Lord Rama and His Kingdom.

    One may note that the Ramayana and the Puranas call the Tamil areas as Dravida, meaning South, Dasyu, meaning who do not follow all the percepts of Sanatana Dharma( though they were practicing Sanatana Dharma they were not Fire (Agni) worshipers),and Viswamitra banished his sons to the south directing them to go to the Dasyu Land.

    Normally this area has been taken as stretching from the Vindhyas, but due to the emergence of the Fact about Mascarene Plataeu , the reference may be to Manscarene plateau

    To sum up,

    The Lemurians (Tamils) were in existence during the Ramayana Period,

    Their land was extended to Then Madurai from Kapadapuram.

    They were a part of the Rama Empire,

    The continent was destroyed by three large floods which wiped out most of the golden civilization with it:

    12,000 BC

    Indian country of Rama existed. Remains of their large cities still exist in the deserts of India and Pakistan (Mohenjodaro). Indian texts from this period tell of anti-gravity space ships called Vimanas, or Astras, and a war with the Atlanteans on the moon. Curiously, Soviet scientists have discovered what they call “age-old instruments used in navigating cosmic vehicles” in caves in Turkestan and the Gobi Desert. The “devices” are hemispherical objects of glass or porcelain, ending in a cone with a drop of mercury inside. Some ancient Indian texts describe a war with Atlantis (who flew Vailixi machines) using flying machines and atomic bombs.,,

    King Atlas (King Of Atlantis) and Prince Osiris (heir to the throne) desired to create secondary domains where they could re-establish the Lemurian Empire . This intention was thwarted by the actions of Osiris’ younger brother, the Emperor Seth. As present ruler of the Libyan/Egyptian Empire (that covered all of Africa), Seth decided that with the fall of Atlantis his Empire (in league with the rebel Sons of Belial) was to be its last stronghold. He made it his goal to re-establish the Atlantean Empire with himself as its all-powerful, ‘divine right’ emperor (of the world).

    ‘conflicting objectives resulted in deadly warfare between Osiris and his brother Seth. Leading Osiris’s Egyptian armies was Osiris’ eldest son Horus. After Osiris’ unfortunate ‘death’, Horus succeeded his father as king of the Libyan/Egyptian Empire. Intuitively, Horus knew what would happen when they landed in Libya. He completely distrusted his uncle. Horus persistently warned his father about Seth’s stubbornness and treachery. Osiris, believing in the goodness of the human heart, initially ignored his son’s advice. Subsequently, Osiris landed in Libya and after Seth’s abdication became Emperor’

    After the demise of Osiris, his son Horus entered into a pact with Rama Empire(Emperor Zata’ar’s eldest son, Prince Rama.) to defeat Seth, the usurper.

    This new Indus river civilization allowed Horus to establish a temporary chain of powerful fortress cities in the Sinai. Thus, Horus was able to attack Seth’s forces and later kill Seth in a mighty battle.

    And when forces attacked Rama at Rishi Valley , they were defeated by Rama.

    Thus for service rendered Rama go the territories in Sumeria.

    Valmiki  concludes the Ramayana with the coronation of Rama and nothing more is heard of him later from Indian sources (at least to my knowledge) except extolling Rama’s virtues and reading Ramayana

    Knowing Valmiki for his graphic details and narration of facts, in my opinion, he would not left this information.

    As there are many versions of Ramayana, we might have lost a chapter detailing  Rama’s empire.

    This could have been before Rama’s departure from this world

    And there followed the first( or second) Great flood after Rama’s period, as recorded in world literature.

  • Krishna Kills Kalayavana Helped By Rama’s Ancestor

    On checking up the Suryavansh, Solar Dynasty to which Sri Rama ,one comes across interesting and daunting facts.The predecessors of Sri Rama were quite famous and some of them like Raghu,Dileepa and Aja conquered the world.Sri Rama’s father Dasaratha appears in the Sumerian Kings List along with Sri Rama and Bharatha.I am yet to find out the identity of Bharata after whom Bharatvarsha is named. There are two Bharatas,one Sri Rama’s brother and another Dushyanth’ s son Bharatha.

    Be that as it may, let’s explore another daunting information found in the Ikshvaku Dynasty.

    Mandhata is recorded as the seventeenth King of Ikshvaku Dynasty,while Sri Rama is the Fifty first,separated by 34,000 years! This is based on the life span of people who lived in Treta Yuga ( which is about 1 .3 Million years ago), as 1000 years.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancestors_of_Rama

    Sri Rama ruled in Treta Yuga: so was Mandhata,his ancestor.Mandhata had a son Muchukunda.

    Muchukunda is recorded to have helped Sri Krishna to kill Kalayavana, a Greek king,Yavana is from the word Ionia,Greece.

    Reference and citation.

    Kalayavan was undefeated and unmatched in battle due to a boon, but he was also merciless and cruel. He learns that Krishna is the only person who can defeat him in battle and accepting this challenge sets out to invade Krishna’s kingdom, Mathura. When the two armies faced each other in battle, Krishna dismounts from his chariot and starts walking away, followed by Kalayavan. After a long time Krishna, followed by Kalayavan, enters a dark cave. In this cave Muchukunda was sleeping since the time he was blessed by king of deities.

    The person on whom Muchukunda’s gaze falls is doomed to instantaneous death. Kalayavan in a fit of anger and unable to see in the dark attacks Muchukunda mistaking him to be Krishna. When Muchukunda opens his eyes, his gaze falls on Kalayavan who is immediately burnt to death.

    According to Hindu mythology, Muchukunda was an ancestor of Sri Rama, who belonged to Treta Yuga. Sri Krishna appears towards the end of Dwapara Yuga. So, Muchukunda is asleep for a long time. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muchukunda

    The issue here is Sri Krishna belonged to Dwapara Yuga’s closing period. Treta Yuga and beginning of Dwapara Yuga is separated by 8,64,000 years.

    This poses couple of questions.

    How could one( Muchukunda and Kalayavana) live for over such a long period of Time,while other Kings of Treta Yuga lived only for the declared 1000 years.This means the information about Mandhata and Muchukunda was deliberate and people knew there is this discrepancy of longevity.

    Hence this means some were endowed with longer life than others.

    And there is mention of People not belonging to earth visiting and people from earth visiting locations other than earth.Mandhata was christened by Indra of Indra loka ,which is reported to be another plane of Existence.

    There is also this issue of the First DNA being spewed by Shiva Linga on earth.

    And the theory that Time is Cyclic and not Linear is now backed up by Quantum.

    So there are these options.

    1. Some people were able to live beyond the average lifespan.

    2.People from locations other than earth visited earth and from earth people visited other places.

    3. Time in cyclic.

    Of these three options,our present knowledge proves Time as Cyclic is proved.

    Am probing other options.

    If I do not understand something that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Or it is a Myth.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandhatri

    Sibi,Chola King Ruled from Pakistan