I came across an interesting article which sought to prove that Tamil was the language spoken throughout India in Bharatavarsha,Tamil being the Language of Mankind and Sanskrit of God’s!
I could have brushed it aside for the thought seemed to be outrageous.
The references in the article were compelling, them being quoted from The Ramayana, the early Tamil Literature,Puranas .
The author tries to prove that Tamil was the spoken language of Bharatavarsha,Rama ,Hanuman spoke Tamil, Rama in Ayodhya, Hanuman when he met Lord Rama in Kishkinda Kandam.
It is said Sanskrit belongs to Aryan Group of languages while Tamil belongs to the Dravidian Group.
This thought was propagated by The British when they colonized India concurrent with the theory floated by them that the Aryans invaded Davidians.
I leave the judgement to the readers.
I feel that the references in the post need careful evaluation with an open mind.
‘LP. KR. Ramanathan Chettiar and a host of others. He was widely respected as letters written to him by the great scholar and patron of scholars, Pandithurai Thevar, “Thamizh Thatha” U. Ve. Saminatha Iyer, Srinivasa Pillai of Thanjavur, who wrote the “Thamizh Varalaru”, Pandithamani Kathiresan Chettiar and others, which are in our possession now, show. He has established through these articles that Tamil was the spoken language throughout Bharath or India, during the Ramayana period and even earlier while Sanskrit was the language of the litterateurs and it was in Tamil that Lord Rama and others conversed in Ayodhya).’
Valmiki wrote a Sangam Poem.
The “Purananooru” poem by Vanmikiyar also glorifies the importance of penance. It contains many words and sentences, which are pleasing to the ears, have great depth, and contain many Vedantic truths. It is very much in tune with his Ramayana verses.
The poem has not been commented upon by later day scholars. To help research scholars, the poem, with its commentary, is given below:
“Parithi soozhnda vippayankezhu maanilam
oru pahal ezhuvar eithiyatre
vaiyamum thavamum thookitravathukku
ayyavi anaithum aatrathu aagalin
kaivittanare kaathalar adhanal
vittorai vidaall thiruve
vidaa thorivall vidappattore”
The meaning of this poem is that the world is surrounded by the Sun who drives away darkness. This earth is full of worldly pleasures, which are not eternal, and many kings claimed possession of this world as a day is divided into many parts and each part (Horai) is looked after by a “Horai Nayagan”. Some of them are big, others small. Some of them are inauspicious, while others are considered as auspicious and some of them are considered as enemies of each other. They are the masters of their own time and cannot interfere in other’s time. The worldly life is so impermanent, but what gives one permanence is penance. If one puts the benefits of worldly life in one plate in a balance and that of penance in the other, he will find the former stands no comparison with the latter. Hence many kings who ruled this world renounced it and became ascetics’…
Instead of naming it Soundaryakandam, Valmiki has given the name of Sundarakandam as it is more pleasing to the ears and even those who are not well versed can understand its meaning. But Valmiki was a Sanskrit poet. Why did he not name it as Soundaryakandam following the Sanskrit custom and named it as Sundarakandam following the Tamil custom? It was because he was well versed in Tamil and wanted to make known to the Sanskrit scholars such a fine usage. He wanted Sanskrit scholars to study many Tamil works. It is the custom of epic poets to make known the greatness of works in other languages to Sanskrit scholars…
Tamil, The Language of Maknkind, Manusha Bhasha.
. “Antharathvaha maasaadhya raakshashenami hasthitha”
(I have reached this place when the demonesses are taking rest)
2. “Sanairachvaasyishyami santhaapa bahu dhamimam”
(I will try to pacify her, as she is highly agitated)
3. “Ahamthvathithanuchaiva vaanarascha visheshatha”
(I am a monkey, which is a small creature, not respected by others)
4. “Vaachannodhaa harishyaami maanusheemiva samskruthaam”
(If I speak the language spoken by human beings which is full of grammar)
5. Yathivaacham praathasyami dwijathiriva samskruthaam
(If I spoke Sanskrit, which is spoken by the twice born (dwija – Brahmin)
6. Ravanam manyamanaa maam sita bhithaa bhavishyathi
(Sita will think that Ravana has come disguised as a monkey)..
”
ஒரு பகல் எழுவர் எய்தியற்றே
வையமும் தவமும் தூக்கிற்றவக்துக்
கையவி யனைத்து மாற்றா தாகலிர்
கைவிட்டனரே காதலர் அதனால்
விட்டோரை விடாள் திருவே
விடாதோர் இவள் விடப்பட்டோரே “
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Many ramayanas are there , like valmiki ,vashist ,kamb, ramanujan ,ramayanaa are few of many other versons of ramayana ,
what is the meaning of ramayana found ,– ramayana = ram +ayan ( ayan meaning came ) ,
according
to some stories ahyilyia was cursed by gotham rishi , Ahalya was
converted to stone ,As for Ahalya, Gautama granted her the boon that she
would be brought back to human form by the touch of the feet of Lord
Rama .
so rama avatar would had been made (incarnated) ,thus how many ramas would had been created ,
would gotham rishi would be knowing about rama avatar ?
like
ramayana so many ahilya versons are there ,( like in a verson , ganga
tells to gautam , it is mid night not the bath time go to home and see
some thing would have been wrong ) .
how many Ahilyas storeies
would had been made and how many gautams would had been made and how
many ahilyas lifes would had been spoiled ,how many indras would had
been made and how many girls/boys souls would had been made to sit in
hen or cock and make sound (cock crow) .thus how many would had been
made culprits ,sinners ,bad brains ,bad habituals of bad acts and bad
karma .
and those cuilprits , sinners are/would had been made to quarrel and killed in the wars of ramanyana .?
mahabharta
, would had took placed for the revenges and the cruelties happened on
ladies ( like savarupnakha ,sita ) . to show the cruelities ,gamblings
were played and sarees were made to removed
like ramayana vishvamitra story would have many versons and vishvamitras
mahabharata
would had been happened for revenges of ramayana and ramayana would had
been happened for ahiylia and what would be reason behind ahiliyia
insult was conspirancies or any ones evil idea .
really how many
would had been real culptits and how many would had been created and how
many would had been victims of vengences and eneyminities and how many
peoples souls would had been killed
killed peoples would had been
given births to different parents , differnt mothers ,different fathers
, and thus differnt marrages would had taken places in past birth some
ones mothers would had been wife of some another person .and some wrong
and illigal methods and would had been used like rapes for the birth and
for enemities and revenges .
thus quarrels would had been on increasing ,and peoples and souls became culprits and victims .
according
to one of the satguru video in the past arround 18 millions years 1.8
crores years ago and one of the papa ji ( h.l. punja ) video , arround
80 millilons years ,8 crores years ago some incarnations had took placed
and some wrong things and wrong marrages and wrong interchanged
childrens were given births by the other not by their husbands .
like this millions and millions peoples are accused .
( peoples which had to make lifes good and better , used the criminals
,and wrong ideas and methods for spoiling and destroying the lifes )
More than 99 % of peoples, gods ,souls had been inocents ,had not been
victims . if polatictics , conspirancies , crimanilites ,some wrong
traditions and some wrong rules of few from the ancient times would had
not been made.
why the wrong and mishappenings happened and
happenings from the very ancient times , why peoples went wrong for
wrong marrages wrong acts
Why the gods , devatas , peoples and
humans became wrong of bad wisdoms and wrong acts and bad karmas ,crores
and crores of peoples ,were all the peoples were bad .why became bad
instead of becoming good humans and peoples
“what is the meaning of ramayana found ,– ramayana = ram +ayan ( ayan meaning came ”
Are you sure? It could be Rama + yAna= Rama’ s saga, like YAtra. Rama came would be RAmAghhathaha.
Ramayana means the Path of Rama..Ayana means movement/travel as in Dakshinayanam Uttarayana.
Hi Ramani
I read your blog but didn’t find anything strong to prove that Tamil was spoken in Ayodhya. The language was indeed Sanskrit . In kishkinta, the language was indeed Kannada.
I too don’t believe in the Aryan – Dravidian divide etc. But the grammar structure & writing are totally different b/w proto Dravidian & Sanskrit languages …
I have posted that there is some talk going around on this in the web, that’s all.As to the langauge spoken I am yet to find evidence.
There is no Aryan Invasion.Please read my post https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2013/05/08/the-fraud-called-aryan-invasion-proof/
I don’t know whether it’s just me or if perhaps everybody else encountering issues with your blog.
It appears as though some of the written text on your content are running off the screen.
Can someone else please provide feedback and let me know
if this is happening to them too? This may be a issue with my browser because I’ve had this happen before. Appreciate it
I am taking up this with wp.
Thanks for the feedback.
(you might clear the cache and try)
I checked with wordpress,You are right.
I am taking steps to correct this.
thanks for the feed back,
Regds,
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Hello
Thanks for going back to the original background for clarity . . Ramalingam K S
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