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  • Tamil Vedas Climate And Lemuria

    The Culture of the Tamils is very old and stretches back to a Million years.

    The scientific organisation of the society leaves one stunned.

    Lemuria .
    The Continent of Lemuria.

    Not only were they able to classify society on the basis of work performed , they classified  the land mass into five  regions, describing the unique characteristics of each.

    They have been able to visualize the different  climatic conditions of the world and explained them away.

    They analysed the geographic peculiarities of each region, classified the habits of those who lived there and ascribed special name for each.

    And special moral codes based on the environment was developed.

    Strict moral code was applied and what is applicable to one region was not allowed n the other.

    The division of land mass.

    1. Kurinji-Hilly Terrain and those adjoining it.

    2. Mullai, Forest region and those adjoin it.

    3. Marutham,Paddy fields and areas adjoining  it.

    4 .Neydal, Seashore and adjoining areas.

    5. Paalai,Desert and areas around them.

    The latest classification by scientists is thus.

    The Köppen classification depends on average monthly values of temperature and precipitation. The most commonly used form of the Köppen classification has five primary types labeled A through E. These primary types are A, tropical; B, dry; C, mild mid-latitude; D, cold mid-latitude; and E, polar. The five primary classifications can be further divided into secondary classifications such as rain forest, monsoon, tropical savanna, humid subtropical, humid continental, oceanic climate, Mediterranean climate, steppe, subarctic climate, tundra, polar ice cap, and desert.(wiki)

    Except the Arctic region all the areas mentioned here seem to have been covered in Tamil Literature.

    Now it is not possible to know all the climates,study and classify them if people do not live there .

    They should have lived in all these regions, developed habits and formed them into classified knowledge.

    So, if the Tamils lived in the present Tamil Nadu, forming a part of India it would not have been possible to understand all the Climates and behaviour

    Even to-day, in the present Tamil Nadu, people do not really know about the actual weather conditions elsewhere in India,where they live in smaller numbers,save through newspaper/TV reports.

    Hence the land mass in which the Tamils lived before must have encompassed land masses containing the areas , regions about which the ancient Tamil literature speaks of.

    This tends to go with the theory of Lemuria which was consumed by a giant Tsunami,was inhabited by the Tamils.

    Mention of Dravida as those belong to the South of the Vindhyas , by the Vedic and Puranic literature confirms this.

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    Two American eminent geologists McKenzie and Sclater have clearly explained that Africa and South America were locked together as part of the primitive continent until about 200 million years ago.

    The present formations of India, Arabia, Africa, Antarctica, South America and Australia started breaking up due to natural upheavals and moving to different parts of the earth at the rate of 15,000 years per mile on an average and found their places in the Asian Continent. The movement of the earth mass, called Navalam Theevu in Tamil, caused the formation of the present continent of India.

    There was a general belief that both Lemuria and Kumari Kandam were one and the same. However, it has been established by Frank Joseph, Secretary for Ancient American Association, in his book “The Lost Civilization of Lemuria”, the existence of a land called Lemuria, one of the world’s oldest civilizations, about 2.5 lakh years ago, in Indonesia. Hence, Lemuria and Kumari Kandam, which existed in southern part of India, are different lands.

    Mr. Joseph has also established that the Mohenjodaro letters of Eastern Islands are nearly 1,00,000 years old. He has critically examined the views of various scholars and established the source of Mohenjodaro letters as well as the ancient civilization of Moo and has written that due to natural calamities, the island of Moo was destroyed about 2.5 lakh years ago.

    Eastern Island, 1,000 miles near Japan, has a script called Rongo Rongo and it is identical with Mohenjodaro letters. This has been fixed as 1,00,000 years old.

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/lemuria-and-kumari-kandam/article482101.ece

    Please read my post Lemuria the home of the tamils,Ramayana, Mahabharata.

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  • Million Year Old Tamil Quotes Vedas, They Quote Tamil

    This post is in continuation of my post on which History is True Sanskrit or Tamils where thy quote the other as preceding them.

    I quoted from Literature  and now I am trying to look into some archaeological finds.

    Tamil and Vedas
    Vedic Roots of Tamil,Culture

    The archaeological finds from Attirappakkam northeast of Chennai evidences the existence of Tamils about a million years ago!

    “The prehistoric period during which Lower Paleolithic settlements existed in the Tamil Nadu region has been estimated to span the period from about 1,510,000 BCE[1] until around 3000 BCE.[2] For most part of the lower Paleolithic stage, humans lived close to river valleys with sparse forest cover or in grassland environments. The population density was very low and so far only two localities of this lower Palaeolithic culture have been found insouth India. One of these is in Attirampakkam valley in the northwest of Chennai in Tamil Nadu.[3] Archaeological research has uncovered evidence of fossil remains of animals and primitive stone implements around the northern Tamil Nadu that could be dated to belong to around 3000,000 BCE.[citation needed]Humans in South India, belonging to the species of Homo erectus, lived in this primitive ‘old stone age’ (Palaeolithic) for quite a long time, using only crude implements such as hand axes and choppers and subsisting as hunter-gatherers“(wiki)

    The Tamil History based on this, Tamil Literature,Sanskrit Literature and Arikkamedu findings,Puducherry is between   15,000 BCE to 10,000 BCE.

    Such an old civilization quotes Sanskrit and Vedic Literature .

    But we are dating the Vedas around 5000 BC.

    If the Sangam period , Muthal Sangam, at 500 BC is true, how is it that the Purana, which are earlier by at least by 4000 years, quote Tamils, Tamil Kings?

    Anachronism?

    As I pointed out in my earlier post, Sanskrit and The Vedas quote Tamil.

    So the History of India may need revision in dating taking into account the Tamil and History together and not studying them in isolation.

    The problem is compounded by the fact the references to Tamil Poets,Sanskrit Poets,Rishis,even Gods’ names do not seem to be Real.

    They are nom de plumes.

    We find the poets and Scholars, Rishis seem to have existed at various points of time.

    Viswamitra is not one man, the name means ‘friend of the World”

    he seems to have existed during Ramayana, Mahabharata periods.

    Take for instance even God, Hanuman>

    He is reported to have existed both during Ramayana and Mahabharata periods.

    Same with Vasisha, his name meaning ‘one who is very austere and one who follows discipline’

    The list in Sanskrit is endless.

    In Tamil Sage Agasthya appears in many places ,transcending time.

    Avvaiyaar,has the same distinction.

    And take the instance of Tirukkural which is dated about 2000BC.

    Now there is no unanimity  about the persona of Thiruvalluvar.

    His name is linked with a man of a Community , called Valluvar

    And the name of the Community is Valluvar.

    The thoughts presented in the Thirukkuaral encompasses Jain and Buddhist thoughts which came later!

    If you look at the Bhagavad Gita, one would find  that it contains Buddhist and Jain Thoughts when Buddhism and Jainism were not even born!

    There is this point in Indian Philosophy which states that Time is Cyclic and that events happen and keep on happening in a Cycle ao that at any given point time, nothing seems to precede other for one who can Perceive.

    Then you  have Viswamitra banishing his offspring to Dravida Desa and their successor Apasthamba organizes Vedas for those South of Vindhyas.

    But we find Tamil literature quotes Mahabharata to the period before Vuswamitra sent his sons to South.

    But to confound you Tamils are mentioned in the Ramayana!

    And you have the concept of Siddhas in Tamil.

    The Siddhas are reported to be transcending time.

    One of the great Philosophical treatises in Ttamil, Thirumandiram  is written by Thirumoolar, a Siddha whose time is not accurately calculated( definitely before  Second Tamil Sangam) and his thoughts are Adi Shankara’s Advaita.

    Shankara dates around mid 14 Century at the latest?

    How come his thoughts, more or less the same, in Tirumandiram?

    The Archaeological reference throw more confusion in dating Tamil and Sanskrit in that each quoting the other as preceding them, but How?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Tamil_Nadu

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Sangams

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  • Tamils Killing Sri Lanka Guilty Permanent People’s Tribunal

    The Permanent People’s Tribunal , an international body has indicted Sri Lanka as Guilty of war crimes in killing the Tamils, under the guise of ending Terrorism in the Island Nation.

    Channel 4 exposed the gruesome killing of innocent Tamilians point-blank, children and women included.

    Earlier Human Right Watch has had the same view.

    Child Killed in Sri Lanka
    Child Killed

    Recently David Cameron, PM, UK, met with the survivors of the Genocide when he attended the CHOGM Summit in Colombo.

    “After an assessment of evidences presented by eyewitnesses and experts, judges of the Permanent People’s Tribunal reached unanimous consensus that the Sri Lankan state was guilty of crimes of genocide against the Eezham Tamils and that the genocide is continuing even after the end of the military operations against the LTTE. Concluding the four day session with a press conference at Bremen on Tuesday, the judges also noted that the Sri Lankan military did not have capacity to commit genocide on its own and that it was supported by the UK-USA-India axis. While the judges held the USA and the UK to be complicit in the genocidal process, they were of the opinion that more evidence was needed as regards India’s role.”

    The PPT Report on Tamils Killing by Sri Lanka.

    ”
    The Second Session of the Peoples’ Tribunal on Sri Lanka concluded today in Bremen, Germany, with
    the presentation of its verdict. The panel of eleven judges unanimously found Sri Lanka guilty of the
    crime of genocide against the Eelam Tamil people, and that this crime continues today.

    The Tribunal specified that the victims are in this case the Eelam Tamils as a national group.

    The Tribunal  found that genocide against the Eelam Tamil group has not yet achieved the total
    destruction of their identity. The genocidal coordinated plan of actions reached its climax on May 2009,
    but it is clear that the Sri Lanka Government project to erase the Eelam Tamil identity, corroborated by
    the above mentioned conduct, shows that genocide is a process and that process is ongoing.  The
    genocidal strategy changed once the perpetrators gained control of the territory. The killings are being
    transformed into other forms of conduct, but the intention to destroy the group and its identity remains
    and continues, through causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the Eelam Tamil group…

    The Tribunal considers that the proofs established, beyond any reasonable doubt that the following acts
    were committed by the Government of Sri Lanka
    (a) Killing members of the group, which includes massacres, indiscriminate shelling, the strategy of
    herding civilians into so‐called “No Fire Zones” for the purpose of massive killings, targeted assassinations
    of outspoken Eelam Tamil civil leaders who were capable of articulating the Sri Lankan genocide project
    to the outside world
    (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group, including
    acts of torture, inhumane or degrading treatment, sexual violence including rape, interrogations
    combined with beatings, threats of death, and harm that damages health or causes disfigurement
    or injury.
    (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction
    in whole or in part, including
    * expulsions of the victims from their homes, * seizures of private lands, * declaring vast areas as military
    High Security Zone (HSZ) to facilitate the military acquisition of Tamil land

    Further, the Tribunal considered evidence related to
    (d) Imposingmeasuresintended to prevent births within the group
    including forced sterilization and coerced contraception of Eelam Tamil women.  Further investigation is
    required on the extent of this practice in other regions before a determination is made on whether these
    could be considered genocidal acts.

    The UK and USA were found to be guilty of complicity in the crime of genocide, including
    ‐‐ complicity by procuring means, such as weapons, instruments or any other means, used to commit
    genocide, with the accomplice knowing that such means would be used for such a purpose;
    ‐‐ complicity by knowingly aiding or abetting a perpetrator of a genocide in the planning or enabling acts
    thereof;

    Recognizing that the Sri Lankan state alone did not have the capacity to achieve their genocidal
    ambitions, and given the evidence presented, the Tribunal believes that the UK, the USA and India are
    guilty of complicity in genocide. However, given time constraints the Tribunal decided to withhold its
    decision pending the consideration of additional evidence as to the possibility that India, as well as other
    States, are indeed guilty of complicity in the crime of genocide against the Eelam Tamils.

    More than 30 direct eye‐witnesses and experts testified in support of the Prosecution’s case, providing
    evidence on various alleged crimes that could be determined to constitute the crime of genocide, as well
    as on the legal and historical background and the charges of complicity.

    Download the File at,

    Source:

    http://www.tamilnewsnetwork.com/2013/12/11/sri-lanka-guilty-of-genocide-ppt-verdict/

    As to India’s Complicity in this Genocide, a Post follows.

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  • Tamil Women Children Killed In Sri Lanka Gruesome Images.

    Now that the NE Provincial Elections are over, there seems to be a new -found optimism in Rajapakshe circles that the International Community would go soft on him for Genocide accusations,

    Killing of the Tamils Sri Lanka. image.http://hinduworldvision.wordpress.com/2011/11/12/lanka-torturing-tamil-detainees-channel-4/
    Genocide in Sri Lanka
    Tamils Killed.
    Rows of Tamil Corpses.
    Image.Independent.
    Tamil children killed.
    Tamil children Killed Source,Tamil.net.

    The winning Tamil party combination is more interested in running the local Government than bringing Rakapakshe to book.

    I am posting some more gruesome images of the Tamils killed by Sri Lankan Army lest people forget the Genocide.

    Killers must never go unpunished.

    Tamils Killed Sri Lanka.
    Murder of Tamils.
    genocide of Tamils.
    Tamil Genocide
    Tamils totured
    Torture of Tamil Women, Sri lanka
    Tamils tortured
    Tortured Mutilated Body of a woman, Sri lanka.
    Rape of Tamil women
    Ignominy sourc:.http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=944015
    Naked.
    Paraded Naked Photographed NGO Source:http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=944015
    Rape and Torture Sri Lanka.
    Tamil Man Raped Tortured.
    Killing of the Tamils.
    Tamils Killed in Sri Lanka
    Sri Lanka tortures Tamils.
    Torture of Tamils in Killinochi

    Genocide Fact sheet.(rough estimate)

    • More than 135, 000 Tamil men, women and children has been killed or went missing.
    • More than 35, 000 Tamil were killed in 2009 alone.
    • 1.1 Million Tamils flee Sri Lanka
    • Estimated 600, 000 Tamil internal refugees
    • More than 20, 000 orphaned children
    • More than 35, 000 Tamil widows
    • Thousands of Tamil families (including children) are kept behind barb wire fenced internment camps by the Sri Lankan govenment, for several months in aftermath of war.
    • Half a million Tamils kept under military rule in Jaffna peninsula (Northern Sri Lanka) that had been described as an “open prison”.
    • Thousands in custody – detention without trial, other widespread abuses
    • Economic embargo imposed on traditional Tamil areas for more than 2 decades
    • Supply of food, medicine, fuel, electricity and other essential items controlled by the Military
    • Forced Starvation
    • Usage of banned weapons – Cluster bombs, White phosporous. Usage of heavy weapons, artillery on densely populated civilian areas. Reported usage of chemical weapons.
    • Mass Graves and systematic violations of fundamental human rights remain uninvestigated
    • No International Media allowed into conflict areas
    • State sponsored pogroms
    • Systematic destruction of Infrastructure
    • Indiscriminate and wanton air attacks on traditional Tamil areas for more than 2 decades.
    • Hundreds of thousands of livelihoods and schools, hospitals, libraries, temples, churches, houses, villages destroyed.
    • Source:
    • http://dustent.blogspot.in/2013/03/genocide-infants-in-sri-lanka.html
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  • Tamils Win SriLanka Election Divert Genocide

    The win by the Tamil Party in the Northern Provincial Council is a ploy to divert the accusation against the Rajapakshe ,Sri Lanka Government from the charge of Genocide of the Tamils.

    Tamil Genocide.
    Sri Lanka Genocide of Tamils

    This is voiced by a Tamil leader of Sri Lanka ,

    Arguing that the Northern Provincial Council elections was not conducted for the interests of the Eezham Tamil nation but rather was coordinated by the US-Indian establishments for diverting the attention of the world from the genocide taking place, Umar, activist with the May 17 Movement, stated that the vote of the Eezham Tamils for the TNA was cast against the genocidal Sri Lankan state. Without considering this, some are interpreting the vote as being against the demand of Tamil Elam and a legitimization of unitary Sri Lanka”

    It also appears that the party that has won the elections seems to be maintaining a studied silence on the Genocide issue.

    The Tamil Groups, as usual, are speaking in multiple voices.

    While  one group , the one that has won the elections, seems to go soft on Rajapakshe Government, post-election,another Group maintains that the victory is due to the Displaced Tamils in US and elsewhere and are voicing a hard-line approach to the Genocide issue.

    One group insists on a unitary Government, another in the Federal set up with more powers short of a separate Nation, Elam,yet another wants nothing than separate Elam.

    Contrary to what one has expected, that of trying to alleviate the sufferings of the Tamils in Sri Lanka every one seems to be engaged in one up-manship, which has the root cause for the failure to prevent the Tamil Genocide and realization of Tamil Elam.

    Rajapakshe, quietly used this opportunity to get a Bill passed empowering the Government to grab any land, a move which was scuttled by a Supreme Court Judge, who was impeached,, a Supreme Court Judge was installed and the The passage of the Bill was felicitated.

    The Government is emboldened by the bickering to such an extent that it has announced it was not bothered about Navaneetham Pillai’s Report of Genocide.

    “The Sri Lankan government on Sunday said it would not accept UN Rights Chief Navy Pillai’s deadline to make progress on its rights accountability record.

    The country’s Foreign Secretary Karunatillake Amunugama said the government would according to its own plan. “We will submit our progress to the next March session of the UNHRC. We have already completed most of the points raised by her while some of it cannot be implemented,” he said.

    UN High Commissioner of Human Rights Pillay told the UNHRC that Sri Lanka has failed to show progress on its rights accountability record. If it fails to improve the record by March next year it could lead to an international inquiry.”

    Sri Lanka has already figured in two UNHRC resolutions.

    In a curious twist Navi Pillai watered down her earlier report on Genocide that,In this Update, she commends the excellent cooperation extended by the government. She gives credits to the impressive human rights achievement by the government with the help of the international community. She says that vast majority of the internally displaced persons had been settled another instance of achievement by the government. She is pleased that the government has taken the initiative to invite the Special Rapporteur from UN.

    She thinks that the recent elections to the Northern Provincial Council will bring about better devolution of power. On the large military presence in Tamil areas, compulsory acquisition of private land and the role of military in civilian areas, she contends that all these are not simple and straightforward issues that could be resolved overnight. She thinks that these are complex issues that would have to be tackled through the initiatives of the various responsible ministries. Of all the internal mechanisms, she praises the LLRC. She is pleased that the government has accepted a number of its recommendations; for instance, the separation of the police from the Ministry of Defense. Touching on LTTE, she said that the outfit should be held responsible for war crimes.

    Navi Pillay does not talk about the mass killings of Tamils during the last stages of the war. More than 100,000 Tamils were mercilessly killed by the Sri Lankan troops. Is she blind to this episode? While she talks about the intimidation of minorities, she avoids even mentioning the mass murder of Tamils. If she can gloss over such an incontrovertible fact, then she must definitely have a particular agenda in talking about human rights in Sri Lanka.

    She mentions about the LTTE in relation to war crimes. What about the murderous Sinhala regime that decimated hundreds and thousands of Tamils with the support of the international community. Who raped hundreds of Tamil women? What about the thousands of Tamil prisoners languishing in prisons without any form of support? She praises the recent elections for the Northern Provincial Council, but what about the systematic attacks against candidate Ananthi?”

    http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=36700

    http://www.dailymirror.lk/news/36236-sl-not-worried-by-pillais-deadline.html

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