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  • Vishnu Idol Found In Russia Volga Land Of Sanatana Dharma.

    I have written extensively about the Sanatana Dharma Russian connection.

    ‘I have written on Baikal being of Indian origin and Arkaim being the land of Sanatana Dhrma, not to speak of the fact that the Rig Veda was composed in the Arctic…

    Vishnu Idol in Russia.jpg
    Vishnu Idol in Russia.

    The huge circle in the above diagram shows the extent of“Sudharshana Dweepa” where the rule of Sanatan Dharma was in place.

    It had Bharath in the South (rectangle area in the bottom of this picture) with

    Hemakuta or Himalayas in its northern limits,

    an intermediary Ilavarsha to the north of Himalayas (noted in dark red square in the middle) and

    a vast Airavatha varsha in extreme north of the Sudharshana dweepa..

    Most of  Russia come Airavatha Varsha  and Airavatha is the name of Indra’s Elephant.

    The Deva territory is close to the North pole where there was sunlight continuously for 6 months and darkness continuously for 6 months. The elephant, Airavatha  in all probability was the Woolly mammoth ,which became extinct about 10,000 years ago. ..

    Part of Uttarakuru Region.

    Uttar kuru means the land of Kuru (a clan) settled in the North. They were the early settlers much before Mahabharatha times (which was about 5000 years ago.) The men and women of that territory were said to have led a free life and mingled with each other as they wished. The probable reason could have been procreation which was minimal owing to climatic conditions that existed there.

    There is an opinion that the name Russia was derived from Rishi varsha.  There is a mention of Rishi varsha in scriptures which goes well with this region. The presence of Devas  in this part of the globe in a distant past had attracted  sages to this place. We have a number of references in Puranas of sages going to the Deva territory. Perhaps their overwhelming presence gave the name Rishi varsha which later became Russia.’

    Krishna’ son Pradhyumna founded a city in Russia.Por Baijn, Siberia.

    Lake Baikal was called the Vaikanasa Theertha.It was also called Amravathi , Ilavarsha.

    Russia was also called Sthree Varsha, where women ruled.

    The Rig Veda was composed in the Arctic.

    Siberians invoke Ayur Devathas.

    There is also a thought that Sanatana dharma was flourishng in the Volga Region.

    I shall be writing on this in detail.

    In the meanwhile it is reported that a Vishnu Idol was found in Russia.

    An ancient Vishnu idol has been found during excavation in an old village in Russia’s Volga region, raising questions about the prevalent view on the origin of ancient Russia.

    The idol found in Staraya (old) Maina village dates back to VII-X century AD. Staraya Maina village in Ulyanovsk region was a highly populated city 1700 years ago, much older than Kiev, so far believed to be the mother of all Russian cities.

    “We may consider it incredible, but we have ground to assert that Middle-Volga region was the original land of Ancient Rus. This is a hypothesis, but a hypothesis, which requires thorough research,” Reader of Ulyanovsk State University’s archaeology department Dr Alexander Kozhevin told state-run television Vesti .

    Dr Kozhevin, who has been conducting excavation in Staraya Maina for last seven years, said that every single square metre of the surroundings of the ancient town situated on the banks of Samara, a tributary of Volga, is studded with antiques.

    Prior to unearthing of the Vishnu idol, Dr Kozhevin has already found ancient coins, pendants, rings and fragments of weapons.

    He believes that today’s Staraya Maina, a town of eight thousand, was ten times more populated in the ancient times. It is from here that people started moving to the Don and Dneiper rivers around the time ancient Russy built the city of Kiev, now the capital of Ukraine.

    An international conference is being organised later this year to study the legacy of the ancient village, which can radically change the history of ancient Russia.

    “The report says that the area in which the idol was found is called Staraya Maina. In the Rig Veda, there is a passage that goes, Itham ascati pasyat syantham, ekam starayath mainaa-kaalam. This translates into Staraya Maina is the name of the land of the 45 rivers (on whose banks the noble Rishis conducted the famous Horse Sacrifices), where the sun-god descends into one fifty-two forty-seven. While the first line identifies a site, the second line talks about the exact latitude and longitude at which the solar spectrum produces interference lines at one, fifty-two, and forty-seven. The extreme precision of the calculations show the advanced science of the Vedic period, and a thorough knowledge of SI units (it has been conclusively proven that French scientists stole the system from the Indians.
    The discovery of the idol confirms the site in Russia, identified in the Rig Veda as rus soviath sapthamahanagaratham (the ancient and holy land of the 722 flying vehicles). The ancient connections between the Russians and the Indians has been unequivocally confirmed. In Russian orthodox Christianity, worship is conducted very much like in Vishnu temples. The Russians refer to the feast of Vizhnyir Ekoratsya Vikhunh, directly corresponding with Vaikhunda Ekhadasi.
    The Russian language also owes a lot to Sanskrit, whose origins 50,000 years ago roughly correspond with the language of the people of the Smritzyi archaeological site, along the banks of the now-dried up Vernstokhlin (Varnasatyakhalini) river system.

    Citations.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/Ancient-Vishnu-idol-found-in-Russian-town/articleshow/1046928.cms

    https://hague6185.wordpress.com/2014/08/30/ancient-indian-idol-found-in-russian-village/

    https://ramanisblog.in/tag/siberia/

    https://ramanisblog.in/tag/river-volga/

  • Bhrigu From Greece Greek Priests in Rig Veda?

    When people talk of the spread of Sanatana Dharma one is struck by the fact that the Sanatana Dharma was present throughout the world.

    Please read my posts on each Country, Civilization  and its Link to Hinduism Sanatna Dharma.Sanskrit/Tamil.

    Shiva and Dionysus.jpg. Shiva and Dionysus.

    And when one reads the origins of the European and other counties in all the continents we have now, we find that people seem to have just come there from Asia, which incidentally coincides with the great Flood reported in India then called Bharatavarsha and mingled with the people already present there..

    In that case where had these  people who had been residing there, from?

    After all one should have either been in one place or have come from somewhere.

    ( In this sense, all of us are immigrants from somewhere!)

    This is anomaly I have faced when I research into Human migration and read it along with the Sanatana Dharma.

    The only plausible is explanation is that the land mass was different in ancient times and there was one huge landmass which was peopled by one group.

    Please read my Post on Shiva Uma Marriage.

    This group, based on the available evidence is the people from India then called Bharatavarsha.

    The entire landmass was following Sanatana Dharma and there were frequent interactions and occasional  migration from one part of the landmass from another.

    This is the only explanation for the presence of all notable figures of the other Cultures(other than Sanatana Dharma) being found in Hindu texts, ranging from The Vedas, Puranas, Ithihasas and Tamil.

    In one form or the other, names from the history of India are found in these cultures and references and names from those cultures in India.

    Not merely names, archeological sites, language. Customs and culture buttress this view.

    Kindly read my posts on these.

    One more connection of Sanatana  to Greece has been found in the relationship of Dionysus and Shiva.

    Dionysus may be Shiva Himself because He migrated to the West during the great flood while Vaivaswataha Manu, ancestor of Lord Rama moved to Ayodhya.

    Dionysus is found in the Atharva Veda.

    Bhrigu and others are also found in Greece.

    ‘by the pre-historic times the devotees Dionysus’s  used to travel to India since it was a pilgrimage for them. The  priesthood genes got developed into various tribes. So there are the Bhrigu (Bhryges), the Avanti (Avantes), the Kurus (Kuris), the Panchas(Panchaioi) theKoshas (Koes), the Sindhu (Sindu). They originate from different parts of Greece’

    The Kurus and the Panchas originate from Crete and might be the oldest ones. The Avanti from Evoia. A part of them joined with A part of Kuris and created the priesthood Korivantes, who ruled Asia Minor. Bhriges, Koshas and Sindu were from Thrace, an area that covered this time all North Greece. A part of Bhriges moved to Anatolia and a part of Sindu to south cost of black sea. Bhrigu in ancient Greek means “to burn” and it is referred to the sacrificial ritual. Sindu in Thracian dialect means river. So is it possible the oldest name of Indus river deriving from them? Even nowadays in North Greece there is the municipality of Sindos. Most of the western researchers either don’t understand or they don’t want to accept the common roots of those cultures. But as I heard in Harvard they teach that the Sanskrit Soma has common etymological root with Greek saima that means originally the holly blood of the sacrificed God. Saimon was a holy mountain of Dionysus in Thrace, meaning blood..

    Vassiliki States that  the Greek priests moved to Indus valley in prehistoric times (Before Rig Veda). Their names are found in Vedic texts and in ancient Greek Mythology

    There is another possibility. In Rig Veda 7,18,16, it is written that half of humanity ignores Indra, that means that half of humanity the time of Rig Veda was worshiping Indra. Indra means the “Archetypal man“, existing in Ancient Greek as Andra or Andreus with the same meaning. It was epithet of Dionysus and ofDias. Andrineia was a Dionysus’s festival. Some ancient Greek text (been in Batican) says that there were eight Dionysi in ancient times. One of them was the God (non incarnated) and the others were sages. In between them there was an Indian one, who was supposed to be the oldest. In this case, we can make the hypothesis that this cult was given as a revelation to many parts of the earth, carrying a common theological language. But even if the Indian Dionysus originates from Greece, obviously he selected Indus valley as his pilgrimage because it had already a spiritual background.

    Soma means blood and it was the red sweet wine, they were drinking in his sacraments. A traditional kind of wine in Eastern islands of Greece is called Souma and derives from the ancient sacraments. In prehistoric Greek blood is called saima. In ancient Sanskrit Soma is existing also as sauma and souma. It symbolizes the blood of the sacrificed Dionysus or Purusha (Grk: Proseios= rising sun).

    My observation is that the was no Greece as we know it to-day but it was ( as all the other countries)a part of Sanatana Dharma.

    https://sites.google.com/site/greekinfluenceonindia/rig-veda-and-it-s-origin

  • Ra Ma Is Bulgarian For Temple Rama In Bulgaria

    I had written about the presence of Sanatana Dharma in Russia,Baltic Region.

    Vedic Traces in Lithuania.

    “Traditionally, the Vedic peoples of Lithuania worshipped the Ašvieniai, the divine horse twins, related to the goddess Ūsinis. They are said to pull the Sun Chariot through the sky. The Lithuanian people continue to adorn their roof tops with the symbol of the divine horse twins in order to receive protection for the household…

    Asvini Kumaras Lithuania

    Now to Bulgaria.

    Bulgarian and Sanskrit etymological similarities suggest the presence of Rama in Bulgaria.

    This similarity also points out to the Pyramids and the influence of Rama in Europe.

    I had written on the Empire of Rama.

    Rama worshiping Shiva Linga, Shiva Looks on.jpg Rama worshiping Shiva Linga, Shiva Looks on.

    Google Rama Bulgaria, you shall be surprised at the Number of Resorts, Golf courses in Bulgaria.

    A Sample.

    ‘

    Location: Balchick , Bulgaria
    Type: Residential/Hotel
    Size: 66,490 sqm possible built-up area
    Gross development value: €15,7 million

    Black Sea Rama Golf & Country Club is an exclusive gated seaside community featuring a world class 18-hole signature golf course which design and construction have been managed by Gary Player Design. The site is located on a cliff in North East Bulgaria and has a wonderful view of the Bulgaria’s Black Sea coast.

    Black Sea Rama is an ideally accessible area for holiday or second homes. Varna international airport is just 30 minutes away and the City itself has extensive shopping facilities, theatres, restaurants, bars and many other tourist attractions.

    The site is currently partially developed with the first phase of semi-detached villas completed and a number of completed and partially constructed individual villas. Landmark retains freehold interest in two large plot areas (named J and G). Plot J is situated on the southern edge of the site and measures 46,365 sq.m. It has the benefit of frontage to the Black Sea shoreline with the benefit of sea views. Plot G is located further inland on the south western edge of the main site and measures 15,000 sq.m.”

    ‘

    “In Arabic, pyramid is said Hram. This comes from the Bulgarian word Hram meaning Temple. Hram is a Bulgarian word whose ancient origin dates back thousands of years and that means God Mother Temple (Ra + Ma).

    Ra is the absolute god of the ancient Bulgarians and Ma is the great goddess, mother of matter and energy. In the people of HRAM (Hora is Bulgarian word for people) you can feel the energy of Mother God Rama. “..

    “In the past, our wise ancestors Bulgarians used geomagnetic force to build their hram, pyramids, temples and shrines in rocky mountainsides or buried in deep wells.” Geomagnetic force is part of vril energy, commonly used long ago. “They used the force of Mother Earth Ge / Ga because they knew that the human body is made of earth, and his soul is the spirit of God Ra – spirit they called Ha. This powerful geomagnetic energy facilitated their contact with the Spirit God Mother or Ha Ra Ma. That’s why they named Harama (hram) their megalithic temples.

    The Spirit of God through Ra Ma, the goddess of matter and earth. Until today the pyramids in Egypt are called HRAM, Ahram. However, over the ages, this knowledge has been obscured and destroyed “..

    Anything directly or indirectly related with Rama was indeed mutilated, fake or destroyed. This makes it difficult for the researcher to talk about the missing remains. We must therefore examine the language – which remains and does not lie. Harama in old Bulgarian means Spirit of Ra and Ma, says the Bulgarian author. Very well. I also see an evocation of the primitive trinity of Hyperborean and/or Atlantean gods. Ha ie Holy Spirit – Ra, ie Father God – Ma ie Mother Goddess. Under different forms, this divine trinity can be found in many ancient religions until now.

    This explains many things. During the era of the Lion, the gods astronauts returned to earth. Their leader was Ra, the sun god, who is united to Ma, the Matriarch. She was the Great Mother, she managed the planet with magic and giving.

    Millennia later, during the era of Aries, a young Hyperborean druid terminates the matriarchy which has became a mess of criminal witches mistreating males with sadism.’

    *I had witten on the Hyperborean vedic Link

    ..

    Hram, Bulgarian word for “temple”,  evokes the architect of Solomon’s temple, Hiram. Same name. And further evidence that the temple of Jerusalem was not dedicated to Yahweh, but to HA RA MA, the original Atlantéo-Hyperborean trinity.

    Bulgarian temple is said Hram or Ahram, hence Ashram, Hindi word for temple. Where does this strong relationship between the ancient Bulgaria and the saga of Rama? Some Bulgarian authors are convinced that the Bulgarian is the common language of the Maya and ancient Bulgarian called Thrace.

     

    They highlight some obvious similarities between the old Europe and America on the religious worship of the sun or linguistics, language very close orally.

    But we should probably look further, towards the language of the Atlanteans and Celts. Oral transmission was the rule and the glyphs have evolved over the ages, we must learn to decode through the cults, myths and common traditions. It is quite true that there are commonalities to these two civilizations. They share the same stone, strong technological knowledge, great spiritual kinship and language with great similarity.

    To those who may be surprised to find the same words in two places as distant as India and Bulgaria, I would suggest to read other episodes in the life of druid Ramos of Hyperborea. They will discover that ancient Rama road to distant Asia is dotted with places, people or events that still celebrate his precious name, even if his memory is forgotten. The Druid Ramos became Ram for the Celts, he crossed all Europe and Asia to bring peace, prosperity and spiritual elevation. He brought a new way of thinking, behaving and talking, hence many Rama traditions still remain in Western and Eastern Europe, around Mediterranean Sea, in the Balkans and Middle East, as well as in India, Tibet and China, as we have seen. ”

    ** Please read my Post Brahmins , ancestors of Celts; Danube River of Dhanu,Por Baijn, Russia, Pradhyumna’s City.

    http://eden-saga.com/en/thrace-rama-hram-bulgaria-harama.html

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  • Seven Rivers Russian Veda Book Of Veles Hinduism in Russia

    Russia is close to Indian thoughts.

    I have written on the fact that the Rig Veda was composed in Russia, under the guidance of Lord Shiva, by  Vasishta.

    Lake Baikal is the Vaikanasa Theertha.

    Russia was called Sthree Varsha, ruled by women.

    Krishna’s son Pradhyumna’s city was in Por Baijn, Siberia.

    Narada’s Mountain Narodnaya is Narada’s Mountain in the Urals.

    Arkaim was Rig Vedic Mandala City.

    Please read m Posts  on each of these, filed under Hinduism.

    There is more!

    There is The Book of Veles considered to be the Russian Vedas.

    There is a view that this document is a forgery.

    But the other evidences are overwhelming.

    There is a refernce of Seven Rivers.

    ‘Zhetysu (Kazakh: Жетісу, pronounced [ʒi̯ɘtɘsʊw] meaning “seven rivers”; also transcribed Zhetisu, Jetisuw, Jetysu, Jeti-su, Jity-su,Жетысу, Джетысу, etc.) is a historical name of a part of Central Asia, corresponding to the South-Eastern part of modern Kazakhstan. It owes its name, meaning “seven rivers” (literally “seven waters”) in Kazakh, to the rivers which flow from the south-east into Lake Balkhash.’

    Baikal as I mentioned is the Vaikhanasa Theertha.

    The Seven Sacred Rivers f the Hindus are,

    Ganges,

    Yamuna,

    G0davari,

    Sarsvati,

    Narmada,

    Sindhu,

    Kaveri.

    Gange ca Yamuneschaiva Godavari Sarasvati,

    Narmadhe Sindhu Kaveri Jalesmin Sannidhim Kuru.

    (Kalas Mandhiram)

    ‘

    And indeed the ancient faith of the Slavs and the Rus from ancient times, long before the Baptism of Russia, was called Orthodoxy. Russian called themselves Orthodox, for the glory of rules to follow the Path of rules. She also was named Righteous faith, for the Slavs but know the truth, know the primordial Vedas, the ancient Vedas, the sacred legends about the origins of the Vedic faith, the former first faith almost all nations of the world.

    The books from the collection of “Russian Veda” and, above all, in the “Book of Veles,” says twenty thousand years, during which time was born, died and revived Russia. The books tell of ancient ancestral home, the land where generations born Russian, the progenitors of various kinds…

    Book Of Veles, Russia.jpg Book Of Veles, Russia

    Today, one looks healthy forces of society uniting Russian idea of the experience of generations of Russian national tradition is thought to be the only possible way for his country. Mental health of a nation can find, just leaning against the net source of national spirit, a prisoner in the great Russian language, songs and epics, in the tradition of old, stored in. Is it possible to grow up to the sky, with no roots?
    What exactly are the Slavic tradition now?
    Vedism or pravedizm — is the oldest monotheistic faith, that is, the belief in the existence of God, spiritual knowledge, handed down to us in the sacred texts, in the form of folk Orthodox tradition in the form of oral tradition.
    If we turn to the original meaning of the word FAITH, contained in the ancient runic texts, we get the following interpretation:
    FAITH — modern sounding ancient image of a two runes:
    1. Runa “Veda” — means the Veda of reference, ie the ability to come to know the Divine Wisdom of God, and having become slaves of the Most High, to tell it to others.
    2. Fleece “RA” — means the Sun, Light or Light of Truth of God.
    So then faith — is Shining the Light of Wisdom and Truth of God.
    Today, on the revitalization of the old faith and the work of many, many of our fellow citizens.
    Now the rules get in the path of many. In Russia today, there are already hundreds of Vedic communities, reviving the ancient faith, ancient knowledge, rituals and martial arts.
    So who is now among those who direct their efforts to revive the ancient Vedic culture and Vedic Knowledge? Even today, these people, united in various community quite a lot. And every day in Russia, they are becoming more and more.

    You can just give some notation these directions:
    Orthodoxy — the glorification of “rules” — the spiritual world of God and His children Grandparent — light Slavic Gods and Goddesses.
    Rodnoverie — belonging to the Faith and the genus in all its forms: from the Almighty, in the images of Rod-Grandparent and Virgin, to the earthly father and mother. This contains the notion that this belief — native, not foreign.
    Vaishnava — Vaishnava worship, praise and spiritual flock to God in the image of Vishnu (elevated) and Krishna (Kryshen).
    RUSVEDIZM — anastasiytsev movement, followers of Anastasia was, a book Megre ancient Vedic roots of Slavic civilization.
    Agni Yoga — followers of Roerich, by following the Vedic knowledge disclosed Roerich in his writings.
    Vedic culture — a phrase from the concepts of “Veda”, “Cult”, ie, worship, praise and “Ra”. That is, it is worship, worship Shining Light of Wisdom and Truth of God.
    Thus, the different communities call this faith in different ways, but all agree on common definitions — “Vedic culture” and “Veda”, because they are found in all of these names.

    ..

    The most famous books of Vedic religion of India — the Vedas. Four of them. Rig Veda — “Veda hymns,” Sama-Veda — “Veda chants” Yajur Veda — “Veda of sacrificial formulas” and Atharva Veda — “Veda spells.” Later, the Vedas were composed commentaries — hundreds of philosophical treatises: Brahmins Samhita, Upanishads and Aaranyaka.
    Additional Vedic literature of India — is the Mahabharata, the Ramayana and the Puranas. Heroic poem Mahabharata Indians revered as the fifth Veda, it is the greatest poem in the world, including one hundred thousand quatrains. In fact, the Mahabharata is a separate literature (the famous Bhagavad-Gita — the culminating part of the Mahabharata).
    Ramayana — is a poem about an ancient hero and king of India Rama, the incarnation of God. The Puranas are a collection of stories of the incarnations of God, the life of the demigods.

    Zoroastrian literature of Ancient Iran represented primarily Avesta, which has four parts: Yasnu (“worship”), Vispered (“all of the major head”), Videvdat (“the law against the demons”) and Yashty (“Hymn”). It was mentioned only sacred book of the contemporary denominations, not less extensive literature provide archaeological and ethnographic research in various countries of the East. Well as more recent works, based on the Unreached to us priestly books (eg, “Shah-Name” poet Ferdowsi).
    And it would be wrong to assume that all of these texts are not related to the Russian Vedic tradition. On the contrary. Many of these texts tells of the lands lying to the north of India and Iran. This important and very ancient land description single Vedic civilization that existed in ancient times, and is revered and honored ancestral Aryans, the source of the Faith and Vedic Hindus and Zoroastrians.
    Consideration should be given community of many texts, myths and stories of Russian and other Vedic traditions. Texts can be placed next Russian folk songs, spiritual poetry and similar texts of Indian and Iranian Vedic literature.
    Compare these things will inevitably lead to the conclusion that the knowledge preserved in Russia and songs which have as their basis the same roots of Vedic culture.
    The great spiritual heritage of Russia Vedic rightly be placed next to the living tradition of Vedic Eastern countries.
    Ancient songs and tales in the oral tradition of Russia is well preserved. They are poetic, are available. Often Russian tradition sets forth the ancient song, very much loved by the people and not distorted by time. You can call the revered Old Believers “Book of Doves,” “Book of Animals”, “secret book”, the “Golden Book” and many other popular books.
    A complete set of Slavic folk songs, tales, fairy tales and legends, spiritual poems — thousands of volumes. They contain the same reflection original Vedas.
    In addition to thousands of volumes of Slavic folklore Russian Vedic literature is also presented Ancient Texts. First of all — the “Book of Veles”, then — “Boyan Anthem” and “The Tale of Igor’s Campaign”. Already now, monuments enough to talk about the great Russian Vedic literature and literary culture.

    http://survincity.com/2010/12/who-are-russian-went-from-russian-land/

    http://survincity.com/2011/05/vedas-and-vedic-russia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhetysu

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  • Hinduism Present Gods Not In Vedas Why?

    I have received a perceptive comment on the Gods worshiped in the Vedas.

    This is it.Vedic Gods Abstract ,Hinduism.jpg Vedic Gods Abstract ,Hinduism.

    ‘

    After completing the Shruti texts, I moved onto the Smritis – the Itihaas and the Purans when my daughter, while reading the draft, commented : No portion of the Veds (including the Upanishads) really talk of Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesh, Ganesh, Devi etc. How did the transition take place.?

    The Agams do provide a clue but to my mind there are several missing links – especially in the practices as seen from Uttar Pradesh where I come from. Can you throw any light on this?’

    I kept the comment pending lest I forget it.

    The Vedas  as rightly said do not mention the Trinity Brahma , Vishnu And Shiva as much as the other deities as Indra, Varuna , Agni.

    Shiva is not mentioned at all, excepting in Sri Rudram as Sivaaya Ca, Sivadharaya ca.

    No mention of Brahma either.

    But we have references to Vishnu and Narayana.

    Example.Narayna Suktham ,Vishnu Suktham.

    Devis Lakshmi and Durga are mentioned , Sri Suktham and Durga Suktham.

    Vishnu is mentioned six times, in the Rig Veda

    Ganapati Upanishad is found in the Atharva Veda.

    As to how the Trinity and other deities we worship today came into play is the human necessity of having a fixed an object for realization with specific attributes that are identical with human attributes.

    Vedas speak of Para Brahmanas Nirguna, with out Attributes.

    Saguna, Gods with attributes were limited to what we now consider as minor deities, like Indra, Varuna and the others.

    More of karma kanda was followed and Bhakthi Bhavam the Path of Devotion does not find a place in the Vedas as much as in the post Vedic period.

    Vedic karmas were performed as per the Vedic procedure, were more mantra oriented( the deities are bound by the Mantras) and the Deities like Agni were used as conduits in carrying the oblations and these deities were considered to be the benefactor of human needs.

    Howver as the number of these deities were numerous, there was a necessity of establishing  much more powerful deities, who are are in control of these deities.

    Thus were the Gods Brahma and others.

    As for as Shiva is concerned there are references to Siva in the South. Pre Sanatana Dharma period where He is described as Adhi Shiva and a First Siddha.

    I have published a couple of articles on this and more to follow.

    So many of the Gods we worship today were not mentioned in the Vedas.

    That does not necessarily mean they are Illusions or lies.

    As I have mentioned in my earlier Post that Hinduism does not believe in personal God but understands the Human Mind;s necessity og having one.

    So it allows the worship of these deities.

    As Krishna says,in The Bhagavad Gita

    “I shall grant the boons to one who prays  in the Form he worships and in the same manner that Deity would’

    Thereby implies the Nirguna Upasna can be supplemented by Saguna worship.

    Deities mentioned in the Rig Veda.Numbers indicate the number of times the Gods were mentioned.

    • Indra 289
    • Agni 218
    • Soma 123 (most of them in the Soma Mandala)
    • The Asvins 56
    • Varuna 46 [1]
    • the Maruts 38
    • Mitra 28[1]
    • Ushas 21
    • Vayu (Wind) 12
    • Savitr 11
    • the Rbhus 11
    • Pushan 10
    • the Apris 9
    • Brhaspati 8
    • Surya (Sun) 8
    • Dyaus and Prithivi (Heaven and Earth) 6, plus 5.84 dedicated to Earth alone
    • Apas (Waters) 6
    • Adityas 6
    • Vishnu 6
    • Brahmanaspati 6
    • Rudra 5
    • Dadhikras 4
    • the Sarasvati River / Sarasvati 3
    • Yama
    • Parjanya (Rain) 3
    • Vāc (Speech) 2 (mentioned 130 times, deified e.g. in 10.125)
    • Vastospati 2
    • Vishvakarman 2
    • Manyu 2
    • Kapinjala (the Heathcock, a form of Indra) 2

    Minor deities (one single or no dedicated hymn)

    • Manas (Thought), prominent concept, deified in 10.58
    • Dakshina (Reward for priests and poets), prominent concept, deified in 10.107
    • Jnanam (Knowledge), prominent concept, deified in 10.71
    • Purusha (“Cosmic Man” of the Purusha sukta 10.90)
    • Aditi
    • Bhaga
    • Vasukra
    • Atri
    • Apam Napat
    • Ksetrapati
    • Ghrta
    • Nirrti
    • Asamati
    • Urvasi
    • Pururavas
    • Vena
    • Aranyani
    • Mayabheda
    • Tarksya
    • Tvastar

    I have taken as a frame of reference as it is the oldest and regarded as most authentic.

    I belong to Krishna Yajur.

    Citations.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigvedic_deities

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