I have been searching for information on the Saudi History for the Pre Islamic period.
It is difficult to come by.
All the information relates to the Saudi Kingdom and the founding of the Royal Family of Saudi Arabia.
No information at all about the ancient Arabia, while one knows from the Sanskrit and Tamil Classics that there was a close interaction between the People of India and of Arabia.
The nation says it has over 10,000 (?) historical sites , but they are coy about what they contain.
I am trying to collate a lot of information on the subject and shall come out with a comprehensive article on Saudi Arabian History.
As it happens with me, I stumbled to some information which is worth writing about.
Lord Vishnu’s Feet have been found on Humayun Tomb.
And the Humayun tomb was built on a Vishnu Pada Temple.
Stephen Knapp had published a Photo of this.
Here it is.
Vishnu’s footprint’ in the so-called Humayun Tomb, New Delhi. This photo is reproduced from page 78 of “The World of Ancient India,” translated into English (from G. Le Bon’s original French book published in the 19th century) by David Macrae, Tudor Publishing co., New York, 1974.
This photo proves that the so-called Humayun mausoleum is an ancient Hindu temple palace. Inquiries with archaeologists in Delhi drew a blank They have never seen these footprints, which indicates that they are heir to a lot of non-information and mis-information. Humayun is not at all buried in Delhi. According to Farishta’s chronicle (English translation by John Briggs, Vol. II, page 174) Humayun is buried in Agra, while according to Abul Fazal (Elliot & Dowson, Vol. VI, page 22) Humayun lies buried in Sirhind.
Vishus Feet in Humayun Tomb, Delhi,India. Image from Stephen Knapp.
Humayun was buried in Purana Qila, but, according to some scholars, the emperor’s remains were removed from there to a supurdgah or temporary tomb in Sirhind when Hemu advanced upon Delhi in 1556 and the Mughals had to vacate the city. He was reburied in the Sher Mandal again when Akbar defeated Hemu, and was moved into the mausoleum erected in 1569 by his widow, Haji Begum, also known as Bega Begum, at an estimated cost of rupees fifteen lakhs…
Ancient Temple Pillars were used as construction material. A view of Humayun Tomb’s rampart.
A photo reproduced from page 78 of ‘The World of Ancient India’ English shows that the site where the so called Humayun Tomb stands today was the site of an ancient Vishnu Temple. The book ‘World of Ancient India’ was translated from Dr. Gustave Le Bon’s original French work by the name ‘Les Monuments de L’Inde’ published in Paris in 1893. The English Translation was published by David Macrae, Tudor Publishing Co., (New York) in 1974. ‘Vishnu Pada’ (विष्णुपद) or ‘Vishnu Charan’ (विष्णुचरण) temples are significant in context of the legend that Vishnu in the form of Vamana strode across the world and planted his feet at three sites on earth.
Notice the ‘elephant head’ engravings at the bottom of the pillar – a characteristic of Vedic and Hindu art.Hindu Art in Humayun Tomb
...Dr. Gustave Le Bon writes that the site of the Humayun Tomb was the site of an ancient Vishnu Temple. Here is the photograph of the Vishnu footprint slab that had still survived until 1893 at the Humayun Tomb site. The photograph was captioned in the French version and then translated in ‘The World of Ancient India’ as ‘Vishnu’s Footprints at Humayun Tomb’.
The white quartz structure which is a remnant of the ancient temple is far more eroded than the red-sandstone rectangular structure dating to Moghul times. Sandstone erodes faster than quartz. The fact that the sandstone piece is in better shape than the quartz structure proves that the quartz pillars are much older than the sandstone piece.
Either this is correct or the materials from the Hindu temples were used to construct the tomb.
There is no denying this fact, as the images reveal.
While I was researching the Middle wast Sanatana Dharma connection I stumbled into the history of Yemen and the fact that the pre-Islamic ancestors of the Middle east were the Parthians and Sassanians.( I ssall be posting on these Empires)
‘During Minaean rule, the capital was at Karna (now known as Sa’dah). Their other important city was Yathill (now known as Baraqish). The Minaean Kingdom was centered in northwestern Yemen, with most of its cities lying along Wādī Madhab. Minaean inscriptions have been found far afield of the Kingdom of Maīin, as far away as al-Ūlā in northwestern Saudi Arabia and even on the island of Delos and Egypt. It was the first of the Yemeni kingdoms to end, and the Minaean language died around 100 C’
Now the Parthians were from Persia .
Partha is the name of Arjuna and the Puranas state that Arjuna conquered Persia.
The Sassanians were from the Empire of Iran, Persia before Islam took over.
The Sassanians .
Some of the recent excavations have discovered the Buddhist, Hindu and Jewish religious sites in the empire. Buddhism and Hinduism were competitors of Zoroastrianism inBactria and Margiana.(wiki)
Hence the premise that the Arabs were Nomads and had no known History of Islam is incorrect.
The Arabs were the descendants of Sanatana Dharma, more specifically from Dravida region of India.
I shall be dealing with this when I write on the Pre Islam History of Saudi Arabia..
‘The Indians’ influence can be seen in the architecture of Aden as well as the food, music, and local slang. An example of such a widely-eaten, Indian food delicacy is zorbian, a spicy rice dish mixed with meat. Such expressions like “Khabar Dal,” which means “don’t do it again”, “Banis,” which translates as “cold water” and “Shoki,” or “the police” are all one-time Indian phrases now used commonly.’
Buildings with a distinct Indian character can be spotted in Aden’s old quarters like Tawahi and Crater.
There is also an Indian lane in Crater.
The Alpinaan market, named after an Indian dealer, is widely known within and outside Aden.
In fact, the economic and social impact of the large Indian community so astonished French sociologist Arthur de Gobineau that he remarked about Aden in 1855: “We have seen an Indian city on Arab land.”
According to Massoud Amchosh, professor of comparative literature at the University of Aden, “in the forties of the last century, Aden gained some attributes of Indian cities that distinguish it from the rest of the cities in the Arabian Peninsula”.
1. Shree Hingraj Mataji Mandir: Built sometime in the early 1900s, this temple is located in a picturesque mountainous location in a large cave in the Khusaf Valley, in the Crater area of Aden. This is the only temple in Aden where a regular ‘puja’ or worship is performed by the members of the Indian community every Friday evening. Since the past couple of years a congregation is also held once a month for performing the Ayyappa puja. The day-to-day maintenance of the temple is done by the Indian Association in Aden.
2. ‘Sheikh Othman’ Hanumanji Temple: The temple was built in 1882 and was spread over an area of five acres in the Sheik Othman district. It reportedly used to have a garden with a pool which was used by the devotees for bathing. It also had two lodgings for the Indian community. The temple no longer exists now.
3. Shree Shankar Hanuman Temple: It was built in the nineteenth century and was located inside a large cave in the Dashmi Bazar, Khusaf Valley in the Crater area. The temple no longer exists now.
4. Shree Ramchanderji Temple: This temple was built in 1875 by the Indian military officials and is located near the Police Academy College (Fattha Camp) in the Tawahi district of Aden. The temple is currently in a defence area and is not open to public.
5. Shree Trikamraiji-Haveli Temple: This temple was constructed in 1862 and was located in the Hassan Ali Street of the Crater region. It was called the ‘Haveli Temple’ as it was housed in a double storeyed building with a ‘Bharat Library’ attached to it. Several shops and residences have come up in the area of the temple, but the temple itself is intact and is kept locked.
The study of the epigraph found in Tamil Nadu give out a mine of information , not only of the Tamil Kings,Tamil Culture, but of the Sanatana dharma itself.
One of the oldest epigraphy found at Chinnamanur, Tamil Nadu , the epigraph speak of the deeds of the early Pandya Kings.
These Kings ruled between thrid Century BC to 1345.
They refer to the Pandyan Kings s having descended from the Lunar Dynasty.
Chinnamanur Pplates, Tamil Nadu speaks of Tamil kings and Sanatana Dharma.
* The image states , in Tamil, that the Pandya Kings /Poets conclave Tamil Sangam had established a separate shrine for the Poets in Madurai Meenakshi Amman Temple and the Mahabharata was translated in Tamil
They had two fishes as their emblem.
Of fighting with Indra,
Sage Agastya as their family Preceptor.
Lord Shiva ss their Family member,
Defeating Arjuna,
These copper plates are in two languages.
A Portion in Grantha Sanskrit and another Tamil’s earlier form Vattezuthu.
Brahmi script is also found.
‘These are two of the four sets of Pandya copper plate grants discovered so far and are herein published for the first time. The Velvikudi grant of Parantaka Nedunjadaiyan has been edited by me in the Epigraphia Indica, Vol. XVII, pp. 291 to 309 and the Madras Museum Plates of Jatilavarman, by the late Rai Bahadur V. Venkayya in the Indian Antiquary, Vol. XXII, pp. 57 to 75. These four, studied together, furnish a genealogy of the Pandyas from the early king Kadungon, who is said to have flourished at the close of the first Sangam of Tamil poets, down to Rajasimha-Pandya the contemporary of the Chola king Parantaka I, who reigned at the commencement of the 10th century A.D.
One of the Pandya kings is said to have occupied the throne of Indra (v. 4) and another to have shared it with that god, and still another, to have caused the Ten-Headed (i.e., Ravana of Lanka) to sue for peace (v. 5). One was a conqueror of the epic hero Arjuna (v. 7). Verse 8 refers to a king who cut off his own head in order to protect that of his master and also to a certain Sundara-Pandya who had mastered all the sciences. Many kings of this family had performed Vedic sacrifices Rajasuya andAsvamedha (v. 9)….
The Tamil portion which begins with line 76 also praises the Pandya kings who belonged to the lunar race and bore the crest of the double fish, had Agastya as their family preceptor and counted the god (Siva) as one of the their family members.
Other deeds.
(1) churning the ocean for nectar ;
(2) bathing in the waters of the four oceans in a single day ;
(3) going round the earth ;
(4) sending embassy to the gods on many occasions;
(5) taking away the necklace of Pakasasana (Indra) ;
(6) mastering the Tamil language of the south ;
(7) driving away the sea by throwing a javelin ;
(8) giving a thousand golden hills (Meru) in charity ;
(9) founding the town of Madura and erecting a wall round it ;
(10) studying Tamil and Sanskrit (vada-moli) as even to excel Pandits ;
(11) leading elephants in the Bharata war against the Maharathas ;
(12) relieving Vijaya (Arjuna) from the curse of vasu ;..
13) engraving the victorious symbols of the fish, the tiger, and the bow on the top of the Northern mountain, i.e., the Himalayas ;
(14) getting huge giants to work for them in building many tanks ;
(15) cutting off the heads of two kings in the battles fought at Chitramayari and Talaiyalanganam ;
(16) getting the Mahabharata translated into Tamil ; and
(17) establishing the Tamil Sangam in the town of Madurai.
The three Pandya kings Perumbidugu Muttaraiyan alias Kuvavan Maran, his son Ilangovadiyaraiyan alias Maran Paramesvaran, and his son Perumbidugu Muttaraiyan alias Suvaran Maran mentioned in the Sendalai pillar inscriptions of about the 8th century A.D. do not appear in this genealogy. Theyevidently belonged to a subordinate branch of the family and were perhaps kings of the southern Tanjai country, ruling almost independently of the imperial Pandyas at Madras and sometimes fighting with them. See Ep. Ind., Vol. XIII, pp. 136 and 137.
[2] Spelt Chinnamanur in the Alphabetical list of villages in the Madras Presidency.
[8] Dr. Krishnaswami Ayyangar suggest, however, that Vilveli here may probably be synonymous with Pallava, since Tirumangai-alvar in his Periya-Tirumoli makes Villagan synonymous with Pallava. But it must be noted that Vilveli is different from Villavan.
The Sanatana Dharma was an intruder into Tamil Culture, it was imposed by the Brahmins who crossed over th India through the Khyber Pass, say the Rationalists and The self-styled scholars of Tamil.
Yes , it was imposed to such an extent that the early Tamil literature Ahanaanuru records that the Chera King Udiyan Cheralaathan offered Tharpana to the people killed in the Mahabharata war.
Emblem of Chera Kings, Tamil Nadu,Bow ad Arrow.
He also fed both the Kaurava and Pandava Army, as a Third Umpire.
Udiyan Cheral performed obsequies for the ancestors’-Ahanaaanuru 233
His contribution in feeding the army was acknowledged so much appreciated that he was subsequently called with Prefix ‘Perunchotru Udiyan Cheralaathan’
Perunchotru Udiyan means one who fed vast quantities of food to People.
I had posted quite a few articles on the fact that the Americas were the Patala Loka described in the Hindu Puranas.
That the Incas descended from the Tamils and celebrated Pongal ,Makara Sankaranti.
And the Mas had their roots in Sanatana Dharma.
More evidence has come to light in the form of a Mysterious Ceremonial Shrine , Yamacutah. Georgia, USA.
In Sanskrit ,
Yamacutah , Georgia.Burial Shrine.
Yama (Sanskrit: यम) or Yamarāja (यमराज) is the god of death, belonging to an early stratum of Vedic mythology. In Sanskrit, his name can be interpreted to mean “twin”.[1] In the Zend-Avesta he is called “Yima”.[2] According to the Vishnu Purana, Yama is the son of the sungodSurya[3] and of Sanjna, the daughter of Visvakarman, sometimes called “Usha”. He is the brother of the current Manu Vaivasvatha and of his older sister Yami, which H. H. Wilson indicates to mean the Yamuna river.[4] According to Harivamsa Purana her name is Daya.[5] In the Vedas, Yama is said to have been the first mortal who died. By virtue of precedence, he became the ruler of the departed,[6] called “Lord of the Pitrs”.[7] There is a one-of-a-kind temple in Srivanchiyam, Tamil Nadu, India, dedicated to Yama.
Distant some twenty yards, a great black bear was perched in the fork of a tree. As he moved his forepaws with the evident intention of descending, a ball from Clark’s deadly rifle crashed through his head. Curious to say, as was afterwards learned, that bear’s life was the first ever known to be taken at or near Yamacutah. After a “delightful supper of broiled bear ham,” as the adventurers described it, they slept by turns, through most of the night, and with the rising sun began a careful examination of their surroundings.
About seventy-five yards from the west end of the natural rock dam they discovered a curious upright statue a little over four feet high. It was made of a soft talcose rock, 13 inches square at the bottom; but the top, from the shoulders up was a fair representation of the human figure. The shoulders were rudimentary, but the head was well formed. The neck was unduly long and slender. The chin and forehead were retreating. The eyes were finely executed, and looked anxiously to the east. It stood at the center of an earth mound (17) seventeen feet in circumference and six feet high. Around it were many other mysteries which will never be fully explained. Only a few of them may be mentioned now.
Four paths, doubtless the ones the Choctaws mentioned, led, with mathematical precision, from the base of the mound to the cardinal points of the compass. Though it seemed that no other part of the forest had been trodden by human feet, these paths were as smooth and clean as a parlor floor. The scrubby cane, which seemed to have been planted by design along their margins, was as neatly trimmed as if the work had been done by a professional gardener. And here, amid those gloomy solitudes the natives believed that our God, their Great Spirit, had walked as a man walks along his homeward pathway.
The statue was found to be the center of an exact circle about one hundred and fifty yards in diameter. Its boundary was plainly marked by holes in the ground three feet apart. The holes to which the paths ran in a straight line from the center were much larger than the intervening ones; and before them, inside the circle, were what seemed to be stone altars of varying dimensions. At the end of the path running to the north was a single triangular stone; at the east were five square stones and four steps; at the west, four stones and three steps; at the south, three stones and two steps. Upon the upper surface of all the stones except that at the north the effect of fire was plainly visible and doubtless had been used for sacrificial purposes.
All the paths terminated at the altars except the one running to the east. At this the trail parted, and, uniting beyond it, continued a short distance and then, much like an ascending column of smoke, disappeared, gradually. The account given by the Choctaws was verified. On the smooth surfaces of the stones were deeply cut both three and five-pointed half moons, whose horns turned in different ways.
A good representation of the rising sun and other curious characters were deeply cut on the eastern altar.’
The basic story about the Yamacutah shrine is so phenomenal that it is probably true. However, there are many discrepancies about the details of the history being told visitors to the region today.
During the 1700s, the American Indians, who lived immediately around the Yamacutah Shrine, were not ethnic Creeks or Cherokees. They were Timucua, who originally spoke a language that originated in South America. In fact, their tribal name, Tamakoa, was the origin of the Spanish ethnic label, Timucua.
French and English speakers called the Tamakoa, the Thamacoa or Thamagua. In 1664 they lived upstream on the Altamaha River from the short-lived French colony of Fort Caroline. They spoke a similar language of several provinces in northeastern Florida, all of whom the Spanish called Timucua.
‘The word, Yamacutah, was probably from the lost Apalache language. It was a Creek dialect, but not quite the same as the four surviving Creek languages. Whatever the case, Yamacutah does not mean “Tumbling Shoals in Creek” as stated by numerous local sources in Jackson County. The words for that phrase are entirely different in the three Creek languages used today: Mvskoke, Kvce, Koasati and Miccosukee.
A hint of the meaning of Yamacutah comes from numerous 18th century maps. They show an ethnic group named the Katvpa (Katawpa ~ Catawba) living in the region immediately west of Yamacutah. Apparently, there were once many more Katvpa living in Georgia than in the branch that gave rise to the Catawba Indians. The Katvpa were Muskogeans. Their name means “Place of the Crown” in Itstate Creek and Itza Maya. Apparently, their vassals were Siouans in South Carolina.
In contemporary Creek languages, “Yama” can mean a tribe that once lived on the Mobile River in Alabama, or the adjective, “gentle.” Yamacutah could be the Anglicization of Yamakvtv, which means either “Gentle Crown” or “Yama Crown.” The site’s name is just one of its many mysteries..
Yama Came and disappeared.
On the carved stones were the strange letters of an unknown language, plus many abstract symbols. The most prominent symbols were of a sunrise and various combinations of crescent moons. At each cardinal direct were a different combination of carved rectangular stones, covered with writing and symbols.
Creek families living near the shrine told visitors that this place was the most sacred location in all North America. It was here that God had appeared one day. By God the Creek families really meant the sun god, whose description closely matched the invisible Creator, Yaweh (YHWH), of the ancient Hebrews. For a period of time he taught the ancestors of the Creeks mathematics, astronomy, surveying and how to maintain a perfectly accurate calendar.
Then one day, the extraterrestrial visitor disappeared before their eyes. Where he last stood was now a small conical mound, on top of which was a white stone statue of a man looking up to the stars. It was surrounded by a complex shrine that marked the locations of planets and distant galaxies in the sky, plus the days and months of the solar calendar that he introduced. It began on the Summer Solstice, contained leap days and was equally as accurate as the one we use today.
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