Tag: WEst Bengal

  • Bengal 25000 Years Dravida Pre Date Rama

    I have, in many articles, mentioned that the history of Bharatavarsha can be understood properly  only if one sheds the regional approach, that is of trying to prove that one region or a linguistic group is older than the others.

    Artifact of Bengal
    India, West Bengal, Murshidabad, late 19th century Sculpture Ivory 24 3/8 x 42 x 6 1/2 in. (61.91 x 106.68 x 16.51 cm) Gift of Cynthia and Ken Boettcher, Laguna Niguel, California (M.82.154) South and Southeast Asian Art Currently on public view: Ahmanson Building, floor 4

    Bharatavarsha was so vast that it encompassed nearly the whole world as can be seen in Rama’s Empire, that it did not matter as to which region spoke which language.

    As I have written they had Prakrit as a common language, with Sanskrit forming the literary base and the regional language determined locally.

    They used Pali language as well.

    The influence of Prakrit, Pali and Sanskrit can be seen in all the languages of India.

    Over some languages these three exerted more influence and in some very negligible.

    One you would find the influence of these languages to be the least to the extent as to be almost nil as in Tamil where structure  of the Language is totally at variance with all Indian Languages.

    Yet they formed a part of Sanatana Dharma.

    The Tamils and the Sanatana Dharma coexisted through out history, contrary to what the say in the Aryan Invasion Theory.

    Please read my articles on this.

    The Tamils had a flourishing civilization during the period of Ramayana and in fact preceded the Ramayana as one finds reference to Sibi, aancestor of Rama in Tamil and a temple built by him is near Srirangam, Tamil Nadu.

    The temple at Tiruvellarai is dedicated to Lord Vishnu and it was built when he subjugated the tribes in the south.

    And Rama’s ancestor Vaivaswataha Manu migrated fro the south to Ayodhya when the south was struck bu a Tsunami, recorded in Tamil Sangam Literature and in the Bhagavatha and Vishnu Puranas.

    While one group led by Manu left for Ayodhya , another left, under Shiva, Ganesha and Vasihsta to wards the west through middle east.

    The third one left towards the east of India , led by Subrahmanya, called Murugan.

    A part of this group seems to have moved towards the area of Gangetic plains of Bengal, Bangla.

    I had written a detailed article on the Dravidian origin of Bengalis.

    Bengal region was founded by Vanga

    ‘The founders of five eastern kingdoms, which included: Angas, Vangas, Kalingas, Pundras and Suhmas shared a common ancestry. They were all adopted sons of a king named Vali (Bali), born by a sage named Gautama Dirghatamas, who lived in Magadha close to the city of Girivraja.

    References in Mahabharata.

    At (6:9) the Angas, the Vangas and the Kalingas were mentioned as close kingdoms in Bharata Varsha (Ancient India). All regions of sacred waters and all other holy palaces there were in Vanga and Kalinga, Arjuna visited all of them, during his pilgrimage lasting for 12 years throughout the ancient India.

    The founders of five eastern kingdoms, which included: Angas, Vangas, Kalingas, Pundras and Suhmas shared a common ancestry. They were all adopted sons of a king named Vali (Bali), born by a sage named Gautama Dirghatamas, who lived in Magadha close to the city of Girivraja….

    The kings of Anga, Vanga and Pundra were mentioned as attending the court of Yudhishthira at (2:4). The Vangas, Angas, Paundras, Odras, Cholas, Dravidas and Andhrakas were mentioned to be giving tribute to Yudhishthira (3:51). The Angas, the Vangas, the Punras, the Sanavatyas, and the Gayas—these good and well-born Kshatriyas distributed into regular clans and trained to the use of arms, brought tribute unto king Yudhishthira by hundreds and thousands. The Vangas, the Kalingas, the Magadhas, the Tamraliptas, the Supundrakas, the Dauvalikas, the Sagarakas, the Patrornas, the Saisavas, and innumerable Karnapravaranas, were found waiting at the gate (2:51)’

    AlDng with dravidas, the Vangas. were called as Dasyus, because they  differed with the Sanatna Dharma on some  practices.

    As the Vangas fought against Krishna, they were treated by the central India Sanatana Dharma as enemies.

    And the Vangas took the side of Kaurvas in the Mahabharata War.

    Vanga army was skilled in handling war elephants. They sided with the Kauravas.

    Vangas sided with Duryodhana in the Kurukshetra War (8:17) along with the Kalingas. They are mentioned as part of the Kauravaarmy at (7:158). Many foremost of combatants skilled in elephant-fight, belonging to the Easterners, the Southerners, the Angas, the Vangas, the Pundras, the Magadhas, the Tamraliptakas, the Mekalas, the Koshalas, the Madras, the Dasharnas, the Nishadas united with the Kalingas (8:22). Satyaki, pierced the vitals of the elephant belonging to the king of the Vangas (8:22)

    It may be noted that the Nishadas were with the Kalingas.

    Nishadas are Hunter tribe.

    Guha who offered hospitality to Lord Rama on Rama’s exile was a Nishada.

    Nishadas were from the Dravidian tribe from the present Kerala region.

    Shiva is called Nishada and there is a temple of Shiv as Kiradha in Kerala.

    Origin of the word Bangla.

    The exact origin of the word Bangla is unknown, though it is believed to be derived from the Dravidian-speaking tribe Bang/Banga that settled in the area around the year 1000 BCE. Other accounts speculate that the name is derived from Venga (Bôngo), which came from the Austric word “Bonga” meaning the Sun-god. According to the Mahabharata, a number of Puranas and the Harivamsha Vanga was one of the adopted sons of King Vali who founded the Vanga Kingdom. It was either under Magadh or under Kalinga Rules except few years under Pals.The Muslim accounts refer that “Bong”, a son of Hind (son of Hām who was a son of Prophet Noah/Nooh) colonised the area for the first time.[ The earliest reference to “Vangala” (Bôngal) has been traced in the Nesari plates (805 AD) of Rashtrakuta Govinda III which speak of Dharmapala as the king of Vangala. The records of Rajendra Chola I of the Chola dynasty, who invaded Bengal in the 11th century, speak of Govindachandra as the ruler of Vangaladesa. Shams-ud-din Ilyas Shah took the title “Shah-e-Bangla” and united the whole region under one government.

    An interesting theory of the origin of the name is provided by Abu’l-Fazl in his Ain-i-Akbari. According to him, “[T]he original name of Bengal was Bung, and the suffix “al” came to be added to it from the fact that the ancient rajahs of this land raised mounds of earth 10 feet high and 20 in breadth in lowlands at the foot of the hills which were called “al”. From this suffix added to the Bung, the name Bengal arose and gained currency

    ‘Stone Age tools dating back 20,000 years have been excavated in the state.[15] Remnants of Copper Age settlements in the Bengal region date back 4,000 years.[16] The original settlers spoke non-Aryan languages— they may have spoken Austric or Austro-Asiatic languages like the languages of the present-day Kola, Bhil, Santhal, Shabara, and Pulinda people. At a subsequent age, peoples speaking languages from two other language families— Dravidian and Tibeto-Burman—seem to have settled in Bengal. Archaeological discoveries during the 1960s furnished evidence of a degree of civilisation in certain parts of Bengal as far back as the first millennium BC..

    .Some references indicate that the primitive people in Bengal were different in ethnicity and culture from the Vedic people beyond the boundary of Aryandom and who were classed as “Dasyus”. The Bhagavata Purana classes them as sinful people while Dharmasutra of Baudhayana prescribes expiatory rites after a journey among the Pundras and Vangas. Mahabharata speaks of Paundraka Vasudeva who was lord of the Pundras and who allied himself with Jarasandha against Krishna. The Mahabharata also speaks of Bengali kings called Chitrasena and Sanudrasena who were defeated by Bhima and Kalidasa mentions Raghu defeating a coalition of Vanga kings.

    ‘ A thalassocracy and an entrepôt of the historic Silk Road, Ancient Bengal established colonies on Indian Ocean islands and in Southeast( Naval Power) Asia

    As Raghu is the ancestor of Rama and ancient Tamil site Poompuhar which talks about Mahabharta , Krishna and Vangas and Kalingas, it stands to reason that Bengal, which includes the present Bangladesh  is at least 25,000 years old, predate Rama and the people were a part of Dravidas.

     

    References and citations.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanga_Kingdom

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Bengal#Pre-historic_Bengal

    Image credit.

    By Image: http://collections.lacma.org/sites/default/files/remote_images/piction/ma-31967667-O3.jpgGallery: http://collections.lacma.org/node/243991, Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=27292375

     

     

     

  • Bengal Bangladesh Vali’s Son’s Kingdom, Ancestors Tamils ?

    In my search  for detailed information on Sanatana Dharma, I notice some curious points and  I follow the thread.

    And I get startling information.

    Some of my thoughts are childish, some idiotic , and at times even stupid.

    But the results are worth the doubts.

    I wondered about the Colour of Rama and Krishna, who are described as Black.

    Rama is from Central India, Ayodhya and Krishna from Dwaraka, West of India.

    People of these Geographical areas are fair-skinned while the Dravidians from the South of Vindhyas are dark-skinned.

    I found that the ancestor of Rama, Satyavrata Manu migrated from South India.( Please read my post-Rama’s ancestor, Dravida?)

    On Krishna I am still searching, though I found He married a Pandyan Princess from Madurai, which is in Tamil Nadu and had his daughter married to a Pandyan Prince!

    Area where people speak Bengali. Indian West Bengal and Bangladesh.jpg Area where people speak Bengali. Indian West Bengal and Bangladesh.

    Now I wonder about the Bengalis,  (of Indian State of Bengal and Bangladesh) and Tamils.

    I have noticed some similarities.

    Both are, in general,dark skinned, dusky.

    Both consume Rice.

    Rice is consumed in South India, Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka in large quantities when compared to other states of India, especially North India.

    As a matter of fact, These Southern states along with Odisha and Bengal consume more of Rice.

    These states form an arc on the eastern seaboard of India.

    And like the Tamils, Bengalis are attached to their Language Bengali and like Tamils are highly emotional.

    This set me to search for the origin of Bengalis and Bengal.

    I found that like the Tamils, they were called as Dasyus, those who were different from the Vedic people in worship.

    ‘Some references indicate that the primitive people in Bengal were different in ethnicity and culture from the Vedic people beyond the boundary of Aryandom and who were classed as “Dasyus”. The Bhagavata Purana classes them as sinful people while Dharmasutra of Baudhayana prescribes expiatory rites after a journey among the Pundras and Vangas. Mahabharata speaks of Paundraka Vasudeva who was lord of the Pundras and who allied himself with Jarasandha against Krishna. The Mahabharata also speaks of Bengali kings called Chitrasena and Sanudrasena who were defeated by Bhima and Kalidasa mentions Raghu defeating a coalition of Vanga kings’.

    Tamils were called Dasyus because they did not worship fire, though they were following the other tenets of the Vedas and had a parallel system of Shiva worship.

    Please check my posts on Pre Sanatana Dharma in Dravida.

    I appears that Bengal was the Kingdom of Vali’s adopted son.

    Their ancestors?

    Dravidians.

    Tamils?

    The exact origin of the word Bangla is unknown, though it is believed to be derived from the Dravidian-speaking tribe Bang/Bangathat settled in the area around the year 1000 BCE.

    Other accounts speculate that the name is derived from Vanga (Bôngo), which came from the Austric word “Bonga” meaning the Sun-god.

    According to the Mahabharata, a number of Puranas and theHarivamsha Vanga was one of the adopted sons of King Vali who founded the Vanga Kingdom.

    The Muslim accounts refer that “Bong”, a son of Hind (son of Hām who was a son of Prophet Noah/Nooh) colonised the area for the first time.

    The earliest reference to “Vangala” (Bôngal) has been traced in the Nesari plates (805 AD) of Rashtrakuta Govinda III which speak ofDharmapala as the king of Vangala. The records of Rajendra Chola I of the Chola dynasty, who invaded Bengal in the 11th century, speak of Govindachandra as the ruler of Vangaladesa.[5][6][7] Shams-ud-din Ilyas Shah took the title “Shah-e-Bangla” and united the whole region under one government.

    An interesting theory of the origin of the name is provided by Abu’l-Fazl in his Ain-i-Akbari. According to him, “[T]he original name of Bengal was Bung, and the suffix “al” came to be added to it from the fact that the ancient rajahs of this land raised mounds of earth 10 feet high and 20 in breadth in lowlands at the foot of the hills which were called “al”. From this suffix added to the Bung, the name Bengal arose and gained currency

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Bengal#Etymology

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanga_Kingdom#Rulers_of_Vanga

  • Shrinkala Devi, Second Shakti Peetam Sringeri?

    Adi Shankarahara mentions Shrinkala Devi as the second Shakti Peeta.

    “Pradyumne Shrinkhala devi, Chamunda Krouncha patane /”

    This is where the Stomach was reported to have fallen.

    This Temple was destroyed by the Muslim invader and what is remaining is under the custody of The Archeological Survey of India

    The First Shakti Peetam Shankari Devi at Trincomalle is was also destroyed and what we have there is only the Murthy and some portions of the old building.

    Shrunkala Devi, Second Shakti Peeta
    Shrunkala Devi, Second Shakti Peeta,Destroyed By Islam
    Shrinkala Devi, Shakti peetam
    Minar of Shrinkala Devi, under ASI.
    Second Shakti Peeta,Shrinkala Devi
    Window at Shrinkala Devi Temple< West Bengal

     

    What is left of Shrinkala Devi Temple
    Pillar remains at Shrinkala Devi temple.
    Shrinkala devi Temple
    New Shrinkala Devi temple

    Location:

     

    Shrinkala Devi temple is located in Pandua, Hoogly district, West Bengal. Pandua is 66 kms from Howrah railway station.

    It is also believed that the temple is in Sringeri, Karnataka.( I am unable to locate this, I am not sure if this is Sringeri Sharada)

    There is also another temple dedicated to Hanseshwari Devi near Shrinkala temple.

    At present there is no temple in Pandua. During Muslim rulers’ invasion, the temple was destroyed and in its place a Minar is built.

    The entry to the temple is barred for security reasons. The temple is maintained by the Archaeological survey of India.

    “Regarding the temple of Shrinkhala devi near calcutta:
    It is said to be situated as u said in Hugli dist in a place by name Pandua.
    Just for your information I myself had been to the place with my friends where the temple of Shrinkhala devi was supposed to be in the past.
    At present there is no temple in the place, a minar was built there by muslim invaders and at present the place is under the protection of Archeological society of India, the door was locked and when we enquired the way inside we came to know that entry was banned into the temple (the so called minar) because of security reasons, but there were clear cut and significantly distinguishable features at the main door of the construction showing that it was once the main entrance of a Hindu temple probably of Shrinkhala Devi. There were ruins of temple infront of minar.
    Another supportive evidence about the temple was obtained when we enrquired local residents, Every year during magha maasa (Around February) a festival by name MELA TAALA of about 30 days duration is celebrated in the premises of the minar which is attended by local hindu and muslim communities in large numbers (More than 1 lakh). It is one of the important celebration of that place.
    Another interesting fact is that near to Pandua there is a temple of Hanseswari mata which is regarded as Shakti peetha.
    Taking into consideration all the above facts observed and collected it could be a possibility that it was the place where there was Shrinkhala devi temple.
    Regarding the story of Rushya srunga it is said that he was grown up by his father from his child hood without exposure to the external world away from everyone except his father himself in the forest.This sage was pure at heart that he had a soul of an infant who does not get into the wordly joy. This made him a devotee of Shrinkhala devi .
    There is also a contest in great epic of hindus ”The Ramayana” about this sage that he was the one who conducted the Putrakaameshti yaaga for king Dasaradha.
    King Romapada a friend of Dasradha adopted Santha devi who was the sister of Sri Rama.He requested this sage to conduct a yagna to get relief of very long famine which was relieved after the yagna.On the request of the king this sage married Santha devi and conducted the above metioned Yagna .
    After some time this great sage as was a great devotee of Shrinkhala devi brought her in the sense his mother to Sringeri and distributed the energy around the Srunga parvatha and there he constructed temples to the deity. These places are also regarded as Shakti peethas…

    Shrinkala devi was supposed to be in West bengal, hoogly district.But as such there is no temple also.A story says that Sage Rishya Shringala has brought to her to shringeri in karnataka.Any further light on this story?

    Saraswati devi of sharada peetham was supposed to be at 120 kms from Mujjafarrabad in POK.But as such the temple is completly ruined by the localites.Anticipating the future Saint Sankaracharya has brought her to Shringeri in Karnatak.The present deity of Sharada is none other than Saraswati devi.Any further light on this story?

    There are remnants of the existence of a temple earlier.

    The temple is built by Sage Rhusya Shrunga..

    Source:

    http://www.shaktipeethas.org/ashtadasa/topic153.html

    http://www.shaktipeethas.org/ashtadasa/topic21.html

     

     

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  • Ordered Gang Rape In Public View

    A 20-year-old Tribal woman was ordered to be Gang Raped by a Village Kangaroo court  in a village 20 Kms away from Shantiniketan, where Rabindranath Tagore was born, in Birbhum District West Bengal.

    Gang Raped in Public
    Suspects in a gang-rape case . who were led by police to a courthouse in the Birdhum district near the village of Subalpur. Indian police said have arrested 13 people after a 20-year-old village woman was allegedly gang-raped on orders from tribal elders. Picture: AFP Source: AFP Men living in the village have also fled from their homes on the orders of tribal elders as police told of how locals tried to prevent her from reporting her ordeal. A total of 13 men have been arrested over the assault on the 20-year-old which was allegedly as punishment for “dishonouring” her community, a scattering of mud huts set amid palm trees and fields of rice and mustard. Her ordeal on Tuesday night, when she was taken to a thatched shed and repeatedly assaulted for a relationship she was having with a Muslim man, has rekindled the outrage in India over the treatment of women. Neighbours described the victim as a charming woman and said she planned to marry the Muslim companion. Source:http://www.news.com.au/world/gangrape-girl-was-bleeding-limping-after-she-escaped-indian-village-where-she-was-threatened/story-fndir2ev-1226809998738

    Her Crime?

    She had sexual Relations with a  man from outside the Community.

    Rapes in India
    Rapes Rise In India

    A raised Bamboo platform was set up.

    The girl was repeatedly gang raped and the whole Village witnessed this obnoxious inhuman and despicable incidence.

    While the Politicians are playing the usual game of Buck passing, the Police, who went to arrest the culprits after a hue and cry over the affair, were admonished by the Villagers for’ attempting to destroy their Honor!.

    I am not sure whether Literacy has reached the Village or despite it , the Tribal remain Tribal.

    Those from the North East may take what I am stating below with a pinch of salt .

    My Brother’s daughter had spent considerable time in the North East of India, about Ten to Twelve years.

    She used to narrate me incidences of Debauchery by men and women who were already married.

    She used to add that this activity is normally accepted, people do not attach much importance to it and take it as a matter of routine.

    I was skeptical till we employed a Family from the North east to do our house hold chores.

    Over  a period of time, the Maid’s Family details unfolded I was dumb struck at the level of Immorality.

    I dispensed with their service.

    I have come across many other similar cases.

    Would any one from the North East clarify whether these are isolated Phenomena?

    Villagers told TOI on Thursday that after thekangaroo court ordered her to be sexually savaged, the woman was placed on a raised bamboo platform so that the gang-rape was viewed by the entire village, children included.

    “If the family does not pay up, go and enjoy yourselves,” is what headman and now prime accused Boloi Murdy allegedly told the men.

    The woman’s family alleged she and her lover, a man from a nearby village, were tied up in Murdy’s courtyard, where a kangaroo court was held and handed down the punishment — a Rs 50,000 fine for the man and gang rape for the woman. Some villagers told TOI that the woman’s cries rent the air all night but no one stepped forward to help her. Even her family, who lives 50 metres away, could not rescue her.”

    ( The Times of India)

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  • Verma Committee Full Report Rape, Crime Against Women

    Following is the Report submitted by The Verma Committee .

    Verma Committee Report on Crime against women.
    Verma Committee Report on Crime against women.

     

     

    The Committee was formed  to look into crimes against women on Wednesday ruled against recommending the death penalty even in the rarest of the rare rape cases, and did not favour lowering the age of a juvenile from 18 to 16.

     

    Essential pints.

    No to Death Penalty.

     

    Don’t allow army men to take cover under AFSPA.

     

    “There is an imminent need to review the continuance of the AFSPA and AFSPA-like legal protocols in internal conflict areas as soon as possible,” it said. “This is necessary for determining the propriety of resorting to this legislation in the area(s) concerned.”

     

    “According to the Working Group on Human Rights, the murder rate has declined consistently in India over the last 20 years despite the slowdown in the execution of death sentences since 1980. Hence we do take note of the argument that introduction of death penalty for rape may not have a deterrent effect,” the Committee recommended.

    The Committee also said that in the proposed Criminal Law Amendment Bill, 2012, the minimum sentence for punishment for rape should be enhanced to a minimum of 10 years (currently it is 7 years) with maximum punishment being life imprisonment.

    The Committee said castration would be unconstitutional and inconsistent with basic human rights treaties to expose any citizen without their consent to potentially dangerous medical side effects.

    On the issue of reducing the age of a juvenile from 18 to 16, Mr. Verma said: “Assuming that a person at the age of 16 is sent to life imprisonment, he would be released sometimes in the mid-30s. There is little assurance that the convict would emerge a reformed person.”

    The Committee has criticised lack of reformatory and rehabilitation policies in jails and juvenile homes.
    “Personnel guilty of sexual offences in conflict areas should be tried under ordinary criminal law”

     

    Text of the Verma Committe(former chief justice of India Jagdish Sharan Verma)

    21. It is an admitted fact that women in India have
    suffered in various aspects of life and physical
    health, mental well-being, bodily integrity and
    safety, social relations, political empowerment,
    education and knowledge, domestic work and
    non-market care, paid work and other projects,
    shelter and environment, mobility, leisure
    activities, time autonomy, respect, religion, and if
    we may add, self-esteem / self-autonomy. We are
    of the opinion that Indian women have
    substantially suffered on most of these counts as a
    consequence of which the de facto equality
    guaranteed by the Constitution has not become a
    reality for them.

    . It is shocking to note that even after the recent
    horrific incident of gang rape, many political
    leaders, including members of Parliament/State
    legislatures, spiritual gurus with large followings
    and other eminent persons have been making
    statements reinforcing the gender bias. Some have
    even blamed the victim for having facilitated the
    rape by her own behaviour. Some of the worst
    examples are:
    (i) Shri Anisur Rahman (Communist Party of
    India (Marxist) – West Bengal): “We have
    told the chief minister in the assembly that the
    government will pay money to compensate rape
    victims. What is your fee? If you are raped, what
    will be your fee?”
    (ii) Shri Asaram Bapu: “Only 5-6 people are not
    the culprits. The victim is as guilty as her
    rapists… She should have called the culprits
    brothers and begged before them to stop… This
    could have saved her dignity and life. Can one
    hand clap? I don’t think so,”

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/realtime/justice_js_verma_committee_report.pdf