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  • Dashavatara Anamoly Points Pre Sanatana Dharma in South

    I received the following comment on Lord Vishnu’s Dasavathars.

    ‘Sir lord Vishnu first avataram is matsya. He took this avataram at the end of satya yugam

    Second avataram is kurma
    This is during satya yugam

    My doubt is the avatar which he took first during the yuga should be the first avatar right?
    Why matsya considered as first avataram?

    Second doubt
    Why Hayagriva or horse considered as knowledge or wisdom? Is horse is genius
    That is why he took horse face’

    Interesting observation.

    On checking up facts I have stumbled on some interesting information and I am sharing it with my interpretation.

    On Hayagriva ,though I had written an article, I did not touch upon the referred issue in detail.

    I shall do it in a couple of days.

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    Dasavathar of Vishnu

    ‘The list of Dashavatara varies across sects and regions. The standard list is as follows: Matsya, Kurma, Varaha, Narasimha, Vamana, Parashurama, Rama, Krishna, Buddha, and Kalki. Sometimes, Krishna replaces Vishnu as the source of all avatars and Balarama takes Krishna’s place in the list. In other versions, Krishna may be dropped from the list and substituted by regional deities like Vithoba, Jagannath or Balarama.’

    ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dashavatara )

    The Four Yugas, The Hindu Time cycle are,

    Satya (Krutha) Yuiga,

    Treta Yuga,

    Dwapara Yuga and

    Kali Yuga.

    The Avatars under each Yuga.

    Satya Yuga.

    Matsya,

    Koorma,

    Varaha,

    Narasimha.

    Treta Yuga.

    Vamana.

    Rama,

    Parashurama,

    Dwapara Yuga.

    Krishna ,

    Balarama .

    Kali Yuga.

    Kalki, Yet to manifest.

    It may be noted that Matsya tops the list, followed by Koorma and then Varaha.

    Matsya Avatar relates to the Great Flood spoken of by all world legends and religions.

    Matsya avatar indicates the flood .

    Puranas state that the Matsya saved Mankind, instructed Manu, the first Man to meditate.

    He meditated Madagascar.

    Please read my article on this.

    Ikshvaku , the founder of Solar Dynasty, the ancestor of Rama lived in the south and he moved to Ayodhya to found the Ikshvaku Dynasty, to which Lord Rama belongs.

    Please check my article on this.

    It is curious to note that the Varaha avatar which deals with the recvovery of the Vedas from the earth does not immediately follow the Matsya Avatar.

    If we take that that there was great flood , it should be followed by the recovery of Earth(Land) from the waters.

    This recovery is indicated in the Varaha Avatar where it is said the Vedas were rolled in and hidden under the water; and Vishnu, as Varaha recovered it.

    Yet this Avatar is not the immediate one after the Matsya Avatar.

    But it the Koorma Avatar, when Vishnu took the form of a Tortoise to bear the weight of the Meru Mountain when the Devas and Asuras churned the Ocean.

    I think this indictaes that the land mass was distributed among the Devas and Asuras, apart from getting some Divine Beings/Objects.

    It stands to reason because,

    There seems to have been the worship of Shiva in the South even before Sanatana Dharam while the Vedas make a passing refrence to Him in Sri Rudram ,

    Ikshvaku Dynasty foulrished in the north,

    Then the Avatars of Parashurama , Vamana and Narasimha are from the south.

    Though Narasimha is reported in the north and there is a temple , the details are much more evident in the south indicatinn Narasimha Avatar was from the South, Ahobila,

    Note that Narasimha avatar is listed in the Satya Yuga, while the Vamana Avatar is listed in Treta Yuga!

    It is a fact that the Vamana Avatar took plave during the period of Mahabali , the grand son of Prahlada.

    My guess is that the Narasimha and Varaha avatars should have taken place during the Yuga Sandhi, time when One Yuga changes into another.

    Please read my article on Yuga Sandhi.

    And Vamana and Mahabali legend is more prominent in the south.

    This is repeatedly referred in Puranas and the Tamil Classics.

    When studeid together these facts and the fact that Manu was from the south and except Rama and Balarama,Krishna Avatars , all the Avatars of Vishnu seem to have been in the south of Vindhyas,it is possible that the Sanatana Dharma was in place in the south before the Vedic period in the north.

    This is reinforced by the finding of Tamil Brahmi Script and the mention of Dravidas in the Vedas, Puranas and Ithihasas,Ramayana and Mahabharata.

    Reference.

    http://hinduism.about.com/od/art/ss/10avatars.htm#step5

  • Vedas Complied In The Arctic Why How By Whom ? Part 2

    Sage Agastya came to South twice.

    He came to South when Shiva asked him to go to south to balance the earth when Shiva married Uma in the Himalayas.

    This is dated around 40,00,000 thousands years ago.

    The next time he came down to south was around 5000 BC.

    The dates have been arrived at by tracking the movement of Star Canopus,called Agastya,which is visible in the southern lattidues once on 5000 years.

    Please check my articles on these.

    The fact that Shiva had to send him to an area which was far off is mentioned in the Puranas,especially the Skanda,Linga,Shiva  Purana stating that the place he had to go was Dravida.

    The tone and tenor convey a distant land, not a geographically adjacent one.

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    8.One may notice that Shiva is not mentioned directly in the Vedas as Vishnu and others are.He, however , is repeatedly mentioned in the Tamil Classics.

    He was called the ‘Ancient of the Ancients’

    The Shiva cult precedes Sanatana Dharma as is evidenced from the Earliest Tamil works like Agathiyam,written by Agastya and Tholkaapiyam by Tholkappiyar.

    Both Agastya and Tholkaapiyar were Rishis, as declared by them.

    They refer Shiva as the primary deity.

    Rama,Krishna,Vishnu are also mentioned and their period is mentioned.

    But not Shiva’s.

    He is mentioned as beyond Time.

    This indicates that Shiva cult was present  in the south even before  Shiva’s marriage with Uma in the Himalayas.

    In the Shiva cult of the early times the Vedas,though mentioned, are not assigned a date.But the texts are clear that Shiva as a separate Entity though not in conflict with the Vedas is mentioned as the Ancient One.

    9.The Avatars of Shiva are not in vogue in the north as much as in the south.

    They are called Thiruvilayadal in Tamil and they are documented.

    They are 64 in numbers.

    Please read my article on this.

    These avatars are reported to have taken place in the Tamil ,Dravida Region.

    They,at least most of them,took place in Madurai.

    This is not the present Madurai ,Tamil Nadu.

    This refers to Then (south) Madurai which was devored by  the sea.

    This was in Lemuria,and Then Madurai is mentioned along with Kapatapuram and Vanchi.

    The Shiva worship was prevalent there before Rama and Krishna worship.

    This speaks of a parallel system of philosophy in the south,though not at variance with the the Vedas.

    10.Lord Shiva is considered to be the founder of the Tamil language.

    He founded the language along with Sage who wrote the First  Tamil book on Grammar,Agathiyam.

    The Tamils conducted Poets’s Conclaves.

    There were three such Conclaves,Tamil Sangam.

    The first one was presided over by Shiva and the third one by Subrahmanya,his son,who is also considered to be a co founder of Tamil.He was called Murugan.

    The Tamil Sangam was attended by Lord Krishna.

    He participated as a special invitee.

    Please read my article on this.

    This indicates the Shiva worship, presence preceded Krishna’s.

    11.Lord Shiva got married to, in one of His avatars,to Meenakshi of Madurai.

    Shiva, in this Avatar, was called Chokkanatha,Sundareswara in Sanskrit.

    Meenakshis father Malayadwaja Pandya participated in the Mahabharata war alongside the Pandavas.

    The marriage ceremony was conducted through the Vedic rites.

    This is specifically mentioned.

    This is of importance as the marriage was not conducted the Tamil way.

    This means the Vedic custom did not take deep roots then.

    12.Rama finds references in the ancient classics of the Tamils.

    He,as in the case of Krishna,was treated as a human being,though he was worshiped later.

    This again confirms that the Vedic people were considered as from the north with a culture,though similar from the north,Aryavarth,Meaning from a ‘Blemishless place’

    13.Rama worshiped Shiva as Ramanatha at Rameswaram, Tamil Nadu after killing Ravana.

    14.Ravana was from the Dravida desa and a Brahmin.

    He married Mandodari from the north overcoming objections to the marriage of Mandodari to a Dravida.

    15.Ravana learnt the Vedas and recited them at Kailash, the Abode of Shiva .

    16.Ravana built the Shiva Temple at Koneswaram, Sri Lanka which anti dates Indian temples..

    17.Rama’s,ancestor Vaivaswatha Manu was from Dravida Desa and he migrated to Ayodhya and his son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku Dyasty.

    18.Vaivaswatha Manu meditated in Madagascar.

    19.Shiva temples,which are quite ancient,are quite numerous as compared to North.

    20.While Shiva’s marriage with Uma and Shiva’s loneliness because of the loss of Sati and Shiva as an ascetic is known in the north, not much of Him is heard there as in the south,about His sons,Ganesha and Subrahmanya,which is detailed in the south

    21.Vasi yoga is the predecessor of Patanjali’s Yoga Sutra and this was revealed in the South by Shiva.

    22.The Siddhas,the Enlightened souls, from the south had  a distinct system of Shiva worship and they were aware of Vedas. Patanjali,Agastya and Valimiki were Siddhas and have wriiten philosophical treatises in Tamil.

    Valmiki mentions in his Tamil poem that he was a Vedic Brahmin.

    23.The Avatars of Vishnu,(Parashurama,Vamana,Kurma and Varaha)took place in the south.Of these,Kurma and Varaha took place just after The Vedas were compiled.

    24.The migration to north seems to have been necessitated because of Great flood in each yuga and Puranas/ ithihasas/Tamil classics assert this.

    25.Thiruvannamalalai,Tamil Nadu is 3.64 billion years old and Jwalapuram,Cuddapah,Telengana,which houses Nataraja is 74,000 years old.

    I can go on adding.

    What happened after the flood and the compilation of the Vedas will be detailed in the forthcoming article.

    Vedas Complied In The Arctic Why How By Whom ? Part 1

  • Gayatri Mantra 24 Powers Colors One For Each Syllable

    The Gayatri Mantra has,

    24 Syllables,

    24 Rishis,

    24 Meters, Chandas,though  Gayatri itself is a Chandas, and

    24 Devatas, Presiding Deities,

    That is One for Each Syllable.

    Gayatri is vibration, sound.

    As science confirms energy is convertible.

    Each Syllable of Gayatri is a Vibration and as a whole the Gayatri produces a Vibration in addition to vibration corresponding to Each Syllable.

    The Vibration of Gayatri produces Hues(colors) for each Syllable.

    Here is the List of the the name of the powers released by each syllable of Gayatri and the corresponding colors.

    I shall be writing in detail on each of these.

    The Sakti,Powers released by Gayatri.

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    These are personified as female deities.

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    (1) Vâma Devî,

    (2) Priyâ,

    (3) Satyâ,

    (4) Vis’vâ,

    (5) Bhadravilâsinî,

    (6) Prabhâ Vatî,

    (7) Jayâ,

    (8) S’ântâ,

    (9) Kântâ,

    (10) Durgâ,

    (11) Sarasvatî,

    (12) Vidrumâ,

    (13) Vis’âle’sâ,

    (14) Vyâpinî,

    (15) Vimalâ,

    (16) Tamopahârinî,

    (17) Sûksmâ,

    (18) Vis’vayoni,

    (19) Jayâ,

    (20) Vas’â,

    (21) Padmâlayâ,

    (22) Parâs’obhâ,

    (23) Bhadrâ,

    and (24) Tripadâ.

    The color of each syllable.

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    Colors Of Gayatri Mantra

    (1) like Champaka and Atasî flowers,

    (2) like Vidruma,

    (3) like crystal,

    (4) like lotus;

    (5) like the Rising Sun;

    (6) white like conchshell;

    (7) white like Kunda flower;

    (8) like Prabâla and lotus leaves;

    (9) like Padmarâga,

    (10) like Indranîlamani;

    (11) like pearls;

    (12) like Saffron;

    (13) like the black collyrium of the eye;

    (14) red;

    (15) like the Vaidûrya mani;

    (16) like Ksaudra (Champaka tree, honey, water);

    (17) like turmeric;

    (18) like Kunda flower; and the milk

    (19) like the rays of the Sun;

    (20) like the tail of the bird S’uka;

    (21) like S’atapatra;

    (22) like Ketakî flower;

    (23) like Mallikâ flower;

    (24) like Karavîra flower.

    Source.  Devi Bhaavatham Book 12, Chapter 2, Slokas 1 to 18

    Colors of Gayatri image credit.

     https://bluebutterfliesandme.wordpress.com/2013/10/01/gayatri-mantra/

  • Gayatri Twenty Four Devatas.

    I have listed the 24 Rishis, 24 Chandas of the Gayatri Mantra , the most sacred mantra decscribed in Hinduism.

    I am providing the Devatas, presiding Deitites ofThe Gayatri Mantra.

    They are twenty four, one Devata for each syllable.

    The list.

    1) Agni,

    (2) Prajâpati,

    (3) Soma,

    (4) Îs’âna,

    (5) Savitâ,

    (6) Âditya,

    (7) Brihaspati,

    (8) Maitrâvaruna,

    (9) Bhagadeva,

    (10) Aryamâ,

    (11) Ganes’a,

    (12) Tvastrâ,

    (13) Pûsâ,

    (14) Indrâgnî,

    (l5) Vâyu,

    (16) Vâmadeva,

    (17) Maitrâ varunî

    (18) Vis’vadeva,

    (19) Mâtrikâ,

    (20) Visnu,

    (21) Vasu,

    (22) Rudra Deva,

    (23) Kuvera, and

    (24) the twin As’vinî Kumâras.

    Source. Devi Bhagavatham Book 12, Chapter 1, Slokas 8 to 27.

    *The Devatâs, mentioned in the Gâyatrî Brahmâ Kalpa are different from those mentioned here.

     

     

  • Twenty Four Meters for Gayatri One For Each Syllable.

    The Gayatri Mantra, the Mother of all Mantras explained in Hindu Texts is the ultimate mantra and is called Maha Mantra.

    One can understand the significance of the Mantra by the following statement.

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    Goddess Gayatri.

    ‘Gayatri Chadasam Mata, Gayatri is thr Mother of all meters, Chandas

    Mantras are not mere letters.

    They represent vibrations and as such they are to be heard and learnt and not by writing/reading.

    This applies to all Hindu scriptures right from the Vedas.

    The sounds are captured in Syllables and Mantras have never been written as a poem or as Prose.

    Individual Syllables are locked mystically and together they form a Mantra.

    Placement of the syllable results in delivering different results.

    Mantras were grasped from Ether by the Rishis, Seers and were released by them for the welfare of Mankind.

    Each Mantra has a Rishi, Devata and Athi Devata.

    And each mantra has to be chanted in a specific meter called Chandas.

    For more details on Chandas please read my article.

    The speciality of Gayatri. thpugh it is a Mantra. It is a Chandas, that is Meter!

    The avahana, the welcome and seating of the Gayatri Mantra is,

    Savitrya Rishi:

    Nisruth Gayatri Chandah”

    It is clearly stated that the Meter of Gayatri, the way it is ti be chanted is the Gayatri meter.

    Meter for Meter, Chandas for Chandas!

    Every letter of 24 of Gayatri has one Rishi , in all twenty four Rishis for twenry four Syllables.

    Now Gayatri , a meter by itself has twenty four Meters.

    It can be intoned in twenty four meters, a rarity for A Mantra as a Mantra can be recited only in on meter.

    Each syllable Gayatri has one chandas, that is the essence of the specific Meter.

    One can chant in this way.

    The other method is to chant Gayatri in any of the 24 Chandas.

    Each Recitation has a different effect .

    I shall be writing on this in detail.

    Inputs on this is requested from Scholars.

    The twenty Four Chandas, meters of Gayatri are,

    (1) Gâyatrî,

    (2) Usnik,

    (3) Anustup,

    (4) Brihatî,

    (5) Pankti,

    (6) Trisnup,

    (7) Jagatî,

    (8) Atijagatî,

    (9) S’akkarî,

    (10) Ati S’akkarî,

    (11) Dhriti,

    (12) Ati Dhriti,

    (13) Virât,

    (14) Prastârapankti,

    (15) Kriti,

    (16) Prâkriti,

    (17) Âkriti,

    (18) Vikriti,

    (19) Samkriti,

    (20) Aksarapankti,

    (21) Bhuh,

    (22) Bhuvah,

    (23) Svah and

    (24) Jyotismatî.

    ( Devi Bhagavatham Book 1, Slokas 8 to 27)

    I shall be writing on the 24 Reigning Deities of Gayatri.

    Source.

    Devi Bhagavatham.