Tag: Valmiki Ramayan

  • What Was Happening in World during Ramayan Part 1 India

    The information one comes across in the Indian Puranas,Purana means ‘very old’ and Ithihasa,meaning ‘It was thus (this is how it happened) are being validated by science,modern archaeology,Astronomy and cultural and Linguistic cross references among the world civilizations.

    I have been exploring this and have published articles validating what is stated in these texts.

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    I was intrigued about what was happening in the rest of the world when ,to begin with  when Ramayana took place.

    That Ramayana took place is beyond doubt has been proved by available dating tools.

    Rama has been dated at 5114 BC.

    Other events like Sita’s kidnapping ,Hanuman’s Meet with Sita,LordcRama’s death..

    All have been proved with dates.

    You may check my articles on these issues.

    Now what has been happening in the rest of the world then?

    One must bear in mind some facts before venturing further.

    1.The landmass then ws different then.There were Super Continents like Hyperborea,Rodina,Pangea.And Lemuria and Atlantis.

    While the existence of these continents were brushed aside till some time back,researches now prove that these continents existed and the glitch is about fixing their location and the time when they existed and why and how they broke.

    It is theorised that these landmasses were destroyed because of  Tsunami.

    The Tsunami is described as Great Flood in all ancient Cultures of the world.

    2.Our concept of Time as Linear needs revision as Time is Cyclic.

    Please read my article on this.

    3.Bharatavarsha is different from Bharata Kanda, where we live.

    Bharata Kanda was a part of Bharatavarsha which encompassed the entire world.

    Lord Rama’s Empire encompassed nearly all the world.

    Please read my articles on Ramas Extended throughout the world,Rama Dropped Atom Bomb,Rama in Sumerian King List,Rama’s dynasty ruled for 28,000 years..

    4.,’The cycle of Satya is characterized by virtue, wisdom and religion, there being practically no ignorance and vice, and the yuga lasts 1,728,000 years. In the Tretā-yuga vice is introduced, and this yuga lasts 1,296,000 years. In the Dvāpara-yuga there is an even greater decline in virtue and religion, vice increasing, and this yuga lasts 864,000 years. And finally in Kali-yuga (the yuga we have now been experiencing over the past 5,000 years)’

    So Puranas ascribe Ramayana Treta Yuga, that is, some time before 1.3 million years.

    Yet the date we arrive at Ramayana is 5114 BC.

    This date has been arrived at by checking Astronomical data.

    This is because celestial events keep repeating at fixed intervals regularly and it is a big task to link a particular event with a celestial phenomenon.

    As other details of these texts tally with historical events described about those times, one can not but accept the time frame.

    So one is compelled to look at Time as Cyclic.

    Please check my article on Time Cyclic to get a clear idea.

    This concept of Time has been accepted by Quantum.

    You may refer my articles on this.

    Having these points in mind we can look at what was happening around at the time of Ramayana, in India and the rest of the world.

    Interesting to note that Afghanisthan, Iran,South Asia being referred to.

    And the eastern kingdoms included Southern territories as well.

    In addition there are references to Tamil kings separately,indicating some thing else.

    Lemuria,perhaps!

    Shall be exploring the connection between eastern kingdoms and Tamil kings reference.

    This article is about the kingdoms in India.

    Shall be writing on other world kingdoms including Lemuria,Atlantis,MU and Uighurs.

    These were the kingdoms mentioned in the Valmiki Ramayana.

    1.Anga.

    The Eastern Kingdom of India finds a reference , not only in the Ramayana,but also in Vedas Puranas ,Mahabharata(Karna ruled over it) and in  Buddhist text Angaguttara and Jain text Vakpajnanapati’s  list of Janapadas.

    Interestingly this area seems to have included what we know now as South East Asia.

    The earliest mention occurs in the Atharava Veda (V.22.14) where they find mention along with the Magadhas, Gandharis and the Mujavatas, all apparently as a despised people.

    Puranic texts place the janapadas of the Angas, Kalingas, Vangas, Pundras (or Pundra Kingdomm – now some part of Eastern Bihar, West Bengal and Bangladesh), Vidarbhas, and Vindhya-vasis in the Purva-Dakshina division.

    The Puranas also list several early kings of Anga. The Mahagovinda Suttanta refers to king Dhatarattha of Anga. Jain texts refer to Dhadhivahana, as a ruler of the Angas. Puranas and Harivamsa represent him as the son and immediate successor of Anga, the eponymous founder of the kingdom. Jain traditions place him at the beginning of sixth century BCE.’

    2.Dakshina Kosala.

    Southern Kosala was a colony of Kosala kings identified as ruling Chhattisgarhl state and the Western Odisha region of India. According to the mythological epics, the Hindu avatar Rama’s mother Kausalya came from this kingdom.’

    3.Danda Kingdom.

    Danda (alias Dandaka, a kingdom and a forest had the same name) is a frequemntly featured region in Hindu mythology. It was a colonial state of Lanka under the reign of Ravana. Ravana’s governor Khara ruled this province. It was the stronghold of all the Rakshasa tribes living in the Dandaka Forest. It is roughly the Nashik District, Maharashtra with Janasthana (Nashik city) as its capitnal. It was from here that the Rakshasa Khara attacked Raghava Rama of Kosala, who lived with his wife and brother at Panchavati (modern day Nashik), not far away.

     4.Gandhara Kingdom. Included present Pakistan,Afghanistan and Iran.
     5.Heheya Kingdom. Narmada valley kingdom with Mahismati as capital. Karthaviryajuna ruled there.This kingdom included the present Madhya Pradesh..
    6.Kekaya Kingdom.
    The epic Ramayana also mentions Kekeya as a western kingdom. One of the wives of Dasharatha, the king of Kosala and father of Raghava Rama , was from Kekeya kingdom and was known as Kaikeyi. Her son Bharata conquered the neighbouring kingdom of Gandhara nd built the city of Takshasila. Later the sons and descendants of Bharata ruled this region from Takshasila.

    7.Kishkinda Kingdom.

     This kingdom is identified to be the regions around the Tungabhadra river (then known as Pampa Saras) near Hampi and belongs to Koppal district, Karnataka. The mountain near to the river with the name Rishimukha where Sugriva lived with Hanuman, during the period of his exile also is found with the same name.

    8.Kosala kingdom. Included the present UP.Rama’s mother was from this place.

    9.Lanka kingdom,Ruled by Ravana.

    10.Mithila Kingdom. The present Bihar. Sita was from here.

    11.Videha Kingdom.This term is used to refer to the total area of which Mithila, now in India is a part.As this kingdom inculded the present Nepal as well,there is difficulty in identifying the Mithila where Sita was born.

    Videha was an ancient kingdom in Vedic India established by King Janaka and based in Mithila, India. The kingdom’s trans-boundary is presently located in Northern Bihar of India and Mithila state of Nepal. According to the sacred Ramayana, the capital of Videha kingdom is mentioned as Ancient Mithila in Janakpurdham.’

    Source. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Kingdoms_in_the_Ramayana

    References.

    https://ramanisblog.in/2015/02/04/ramas-empire-covered-the-worlda-study/https://ramanisblog.in/2015/02/04/ramas-empire-covered-the-worlda-study/

     

    https://www.quora.com/Are-Ramayan-and-Mahabharata-real/answers/2467443

    https://ramanisblog.in/2014/12/27/kings-list-india-by-puranas-validated/

    https://www.quora.com/Historical-India-When-Mahabharata-and-Ramayana-were-taking-place-in-India-then-at-the-same-time-what-was-happening-in-the-rest-of-the-world

     

    https://ramanisblog.in/2015/10/28/rama-used-atom-bomb-against-atlantis-mohenjo-daro/https://ramanisblog.in/2015/10/28/rama-used-atom-bomb-against-atlantis-mohenjo-daro/

  • Sita Elder To Lord Rama?

    There is information floating around the web that Sita was elder to Lord Rama by six months and many are quoting this to justify marrying an elder woman.

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    Lord Rama and Sita, Image credit, www,indiatemplesinfo.com

    ‘Though we have many examples of wife being elder than her husband in puranas, like Sita was 6 months elder than Rama, Radha was elder than Krishna and even in the case of Shiva and Shakthi according to Shakthi purana, it was Shakthi who created Shiva, Bramha, Vishnu and proposes them to marry her. But do you know who is known for, the huge difference in age among spouses?”

    Source.http://aavaahana.blogspot.in/2012/01/elderly-wives-or-companions-of-puranas.html

     

    This information is incorrect.

    Valmiki clearly declares thus, about the ages of Rama and Sita, through Sita during her conversation with Ravana when he was  about to abduct her.

    This is the Sloka.

    mama bhartaa mahaatejaa vayasaa pa.nca vi.mshakaH || 3-47-10
    aSTaa dasha hi var.hSaaNi mama janmani gaNyate | Aranya Kanda

    10b, 11. mahaatejaa mama bhartaa= great resplendent my, husband; vayasaa panca vimshakaH= by age, five, twenty – twenty-five years; mama janmani= my, from birth; aSTaa dasha varSaaNi hi= eight, ten – eighteen, years, only; gaNyate= reckoned up.

    “My great-resplendent husband was of twenty-five years of age at that time, and to me eighteen years are reckoned up from my birth. [3-47-10b, 11a]’

    (The Shastras declare that a Man should marry a woman who is younger to him , though the ge difference is varied in different Shastras.

    The important reason for this is that women age faster and become weak when compared to Men because of women giving birth to children and it is the duty of the Husband to take care of his wife during her advanced age.

    And if the woman is elder to him, the problem of assisting the wife during her advanced years by the husband becomes more difficult.)

    Ramayana Sloka and Translation Citation.

    http://www.valmikiramayan.net/aranya/sarga47/aranya_47_frame.htm

  • Rama Empire Reply To Critics On Map Sanatana Dharma Dates

    Rama Empire Reply To Critics On Map Sanatana Dharma Dates

    I published an article on Rama’s Empire, showing the territories held by Rama.

    The map was based on the references in the Ramayana of Valmiki,the descriptions of the Geography of Valmiki, the reference to the Kings who attended Sita’s Swayamwara,

    The description Valmiki provides while the Horse  of Lord Rama went around during the Aswamedha Yaga Rama performed after His return to Ayodhya, the directions provided by Sugreeva to his Vanara ,Monkey army when they were searching for Sita , the details found in Raghu Vamsa of Kalidasa and ancient Tamil Literature references to Rama and Ramayana.

    There have been comments about the content in the post.

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    Hanuman Chanting Rama’s Name

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    1.The landmass shown in the Map, shows  relatively modern locations like the Suez canal.

    My answer is that the reference to the areas won by Rama were cross checked for their modern names , correlated with the descriptions found in Valmiki Ramayana;then the Map was prepared taking the current names for these ancient places.

    This has been done to enable the reader to understand the map.

    Another point is that the ancient landmass was different from what we see to-day .

    Landmass has changed.

    There were super continents like Lemuria,Atlantis,Rodina, Pangaea,…

    Some evidence of their existence has become available.

    Research is on.

    Meanwhile evidence unearthed in Arikkamedu,Tamil Nadu/Pondicherry and the epigraphs of the Thirukoilur TamilNadu speak of Kings from Tamil Nadu having links with Sanatana Dharma.

    Early Tamil Sangam works speak of Rama and Krishna and Silappadikaram mentions that the Yadavas were present in Madurai,Tamil Nadu.

    Krishna and Arjuna visited The Dravida Desa, South India.

    Both of them married Princesses from the south.

    While Krishna had a daughter through the Pandyan Princess , got her married to Pandya Prince, Arjuna had a son Babruvahana.

    Balarama visited south and worshiped Lord Subrahmanya.

    And Lord Krishna attended Tamil Sangam.

    Please Check my posts on each these.

    All these have been cross verified by archaeology, epigraph,Astronomy.

    It would be erroneous to dismiss the mass of evidence because weare yet to recover all the artifacts.

    Remember….

    River Saraswati has been identified,Dwaraka excavated.

    It takes time to unearth by Indian Scholars.

    There is no Dhanushkodi in South Now.

    Only traces remain.

    I have visited the place when I was a child.

    Can I deny Dhanushkodi now?

    Hence the empire of Rama is true, possible and probable, taking into consideration all the facts mentioned above.

    2.Rama lived in Treta Yuga.

    No doubt about this.

    Treta Yuga is thousands of years ago.

    The present date of Ramayana around 5000 BC is not accurate for the following reason.

    Astronomical dating is done by verifying the Planetary position by taking reference to the Horoscope of Rama, Sita and Ravana apart from the eclipses mentioned in the Ramayana.

    The problem is that Astronomical events keep on occurring at regular intervals.

    So a planetary position or an eclipse is not unique.

    What date do we take?

    Now we are taking the latest for reckoning, that’s all.

    Here comes the concept of Circular Time.

    According to Hinduism Time is not Linear, that it is not flowing in one direction.

    It is circular.

    The Purana state  that Agastya moved towards the South twice .

    Once when Lord Shiva ordered him to move over to South to stabilize the earth, when the North end came down, South rose because of overcrowding by people who came to witness Shiva’s wedding with Uma.


    ( These two events have happened at different periods, not at one instance.
    He moved again to South to tame the Vindhya mountain.

    Now let us look the calculation of Time .

    There are Four Yugas and they repeat themselves.

    Brahma, the Creator begins Creation at the beginning of each Yuga which will be dissolved at the end of one Chatur Yuga

    Kali Yuga                                4,32000 Years

    Dwpara Yuga  4,32,000*2= 8,64,000

    Tretha Yuga    4,32,000*3=1296000

    Satya Yuga        4,32,000*4=1728000

    Total                                         4820000 Years One Chatur Yuga

    One Manvantara is 306.72 million Years.

    Life in the universe is created and destroyed once every 4.1 to 8.2 billion years, which is one full day (day and night) for Brahma. The lifetime of a Brahma is believed to be 311 trillion and 40 billion years-Hindu Cosmology.

    ‘Eighty million years ago, India was approximately 6400 km (3968 miles) south of the Eurasian plate. Separating the two was the Tethys Sea. The Indo-Australian tectonic plate – containing the continent of Australia, the Indian subcontinent, and surrounding ocean – was pushed northward by the convection currents generated in the inner mantle. For millions of years, India made its way across the sea toward the Eurasian plate. As India approached Asia, around 40 million years ago, the Tethys Sea began to shrink and its seabed slowly pushed upwards. The Tethys Sea disappeared completely around 20 million years ago and sediments rising from its seabed formed a mountain range. When India and Tibet collided, instead of descending with the plate, the relatively light sedimentary and metamorphic rock that makes up the subcontinent of India pushed against Tibet, forcing it upwards, and created a massive mountain fold. The Himalayas.’

    Proof from the position of Agastya Star,Canopus.

    Canopus is associated with the sageAgastya, one of the ancient rishis (the others are associated with the stars of the Big Dipper). Agastya, the star, is said to be the ‘cleanser of waters’ and its rising coincides with the calming of the waters of the Indian Ocean. It is considered the son of Pulasthya, son of Brahma.

    Canopus is 310 Light Years away from the Earth.

    ‘Agastya, is the author of 25 hymns (nos 166 to 190) of the first ‘mandala’ of the Rigveda.
    2. Canopus, the second brightest star in the night sky, is called Agastya in India.
    3. This star is close to the ecliptic south pole, having an ecliptic latitude of –76°.
    4. As the celestial poles go round the ecliptic poles due to the phenomenon of precession of the earth’s axis of rotation, this star becomes visible from different latitudes on the globe at different times. If we assume that for a star to be visible at a place its altitude at the meridian passage should be at least 5°, then calculations give the visibility curve for Agastya (Canopus) as follows.
    5. Agastya was not visible from any part of India before 10,000 BC.
    6. First it became visible at Kanyakumari around that epoch. Thereafter, as it was brought more and more northwards by precession, it became visible at various places in India.
    7. It became visible in the east coast (in the present Chennai region) in 8500 BC, and in the present day Hyderabad in 7200 BC, in the Vindhya region in 5200 BC, at Delhi in 3100 BC.
    8. At present it is visible from most parts of India for longer or shorter durations. This cycle will repeat after every 25,765 years. It is thus clear that around 5000 BC, the star Agastya was visible from the south of the Vindhyas, but not from the north of it.
    9. If sage Agastya was the first to cross the Vindhyas from the north, he would have been the first northerner to see the star. Hence the star has been named after him, just as the Magellanic clouds in the southern sky are named after the navigator Magellan, who first saw them as he sailed southwards.
    10. This fixes an epoch of 5000 BC for sage Agastya. This date is based on the assumption that for a star to be visible its meridian altitude has to be at least 5°.
    11. If we make 8° meridian altitude as the criterion for visibility, the date of Agastya would be shifted to about 4000 BC. The dates 5000 and 4000 BC should therefore bracket the probable epoch of Agastya crossing the Vindhya mountains.

    Hindu Puranas state that the south pole came up because of over crowding in the Himalayas because people has rushed in to witness the wedding of Lord Shiva with Parvati and to set the earth’s balance aright Shiva ordered Agastya to go to South and he did so.

    Now the tectonic plate movement of the Himalayas confirm this by observing that

    ” The Indo-Australian tectonic plate – containing the continent of Australia, the Indian subcontinent, and surrounding ocean – was pushed northward by the convection currents generated in the inner mantle. For millions of years, India made its way across the sea toward the Eurasian plate. As India approached Asia, around 40 million years ago, the Tethys Sea began to shrink and its seabed slowly pushed upwards. The Tethys Sea disappeared completely around 20 million years ago and sediments rising from its seabed formed a mountain range. When India and Tibet collided, instead of descending with the plate, the relatively light sedimentary and metamorphic rock that makes up the subcontinent of India pushed against Tibet, forcing it upwards, and created a massive mountain fold.”

    Hence Agastya left for the South around 40 Million years ago to balance the earth.

    Please read my Post  Canopus Agastya validates Sanatana Dharma.”

    Above is an except from My Post

     https://ramanisblog.in/2015/03/22/shiva-uma-wedding-agastya-to-south-40-million-years-tectonics-proof/

    So the Treta Yuga period is validated.

    The Astronomical events which we are using to date Ramayana happened in Treta Yuga, as celestial events take place regularly, as well.

    The land mass as I have shown is correct for the reasons mentioned in answering critics in point number 1 .

    And that Rama lived in Treta Yuga and both the observations are correct.

    Kindly read my posts on Agastya Date, Ramayana Date, Mahabharata date,Dating tools and more posts filed under Hinduism.

  • Rama Sita in Vedas A Contradiction?

    Sometimes one comes across references in the Ithihasa and Puranas , when related to the Vedas there is confusion.

    Rama and Sita. image.jpg Rama and Sita.

    The Vedas,the Scripture of the Hindus, are accepted as Apaurusheya, not man-made and timeless, are undoubtedly the earliest works of Sanatana Dharma, and the Vedas , especially the Rig Veda is considered to be first literature of Mankind.dated conservatively at 5000 BC.

    The Ithihasas Ramayana and Mahabharata come later.

    One comes across references to Rama and Sita in the Ramayana.

    References to Rama in Ramayana.

    “14 This to Duḥśīma Pṛthavāna have I sung, to Vena, Rama, to the nobles, and the King.
    They yoked five hundred, and their love of us was famed upon their way.
    15 Besides, they showed us seven-and-seventy horses here.
    Tānva at once displayed his gift, Pārthya at once displayed his gift; and straightway Māyava showed his.” XCIII Visvedevas.

    Vena is the ancestor of Rama.

    In the absence of Dasaratha reference, some dispute the name Rama as the Rama of Ramayana.

    There is an interesting  note found in the Bala Kanda of Ramayana.

    Valmiki wrote that he wrote the Ramayana to expound The Vedas.

    “kushiilavau tu dharmaGYau raajaputrau yashasvinau |
    bhraatarau svarasampannau dadarsha aashramavaasinau ||
    sa tu medhaavinau dR^ishhTvaa vedeShu pariniShThitau |
    vedopabR^ihmaNaarthaaya taavagraahayata prabhuh ||
    kaavyaM raamaayaNaM kR^itsnaM siitaayaashcharitaM mahat.h|
    paulastya vadhamityeva chakaara charitavrataH||

    (vAlmIki-rAmAyaNa–bAlakANDa 1.4.5-7)

    The princes, the brothers, Kusha and Lava, were knowledgeable about Dharma and were glorious. Their voices were melodious and they lived in the hermitage of (vAlmIki). He (vAlmIki), established in good deeds, observed those two extremely intelligent (princes), skilled in the Vedas, and for the sake of expounding the Vedas, he composed and made them study the poem sampUrNa-rAmAyaNa (the entire rAmAyaNa) (containing) the great story of sItA and the slaying of rAvaNa.

    These verses from the vAlmIki-rAmAyaNa clearly show that the sage vAlmIki composed the rAmAyaNa to expound the meaning of the Vedas…

    Sita in the Vedas.

    Auspicious Sita, come thou near;We venerate and worship thee
    That thou mayst bless and prosper us
    And bring us fruits abundantly.

    -Rig veda 4.57

    In Harivansha Sita has been invoked as one of the names of goddess Arya:

    O goddess, you are the altar’s center in the sacrifice,
    The priest’s fee
    Sita to those who hold the plough
    And Earth to all living being.

    The Kausik-sutra and the Paraskara-sutra associate her repeatedly as the wife of Parjanya (a god associated with rains) and Indra.[4]

    Sita is known by many epithets. She is called Jānaki as the daughter of Janaka and Maithili as the princess of Mithila.[5] As the wife of Rama, she is called Ramā. Her father Janaka had earned the sobriquet Videha due to his ability to transcend body consciousness; Sita is therefore also known as Vaidehi.

    Is this not an Anachronism?

    How can the Vedas mention Rama and Sita who came later?

    The Ramayana mention that Rama was adorned with Upaveeda and the Upanayana ceremony was performed according the Vedic procedure.

    Sita Rama Marriage was performed according to Vedic rites.

    Why this contradiction?

    The explanation for Rama being found Rama in Vedas.

    10.111.07 sacanta yad uShasaH sooryeNa citrAm asya ketavo rAm avindan |
    10.111.07 A yan nakShatraM dadRushe divo na punar yato nakir addhA nu veda ||(Rig Veda)

    pra tadduHshIme pR^ithavAne vene pra rAme vochamasure maghavatsu |
    ye yuktvAya pa.ncha shatAsmayu pathA vishrAvyeshhAm.h ||9Rig Veda 10.93.14),

    In yajnas of wealthy kings such as duHshIma, pR^ithavAna, vena, and the powerful rAma, I utter hymns to the gods who travel by 500 chariots drawn by horses in the world of the gods, and who are fond of us (humans).

    1.’Since rAmAyaNa is based on the Vedas, there must be mantras in the Vedas that correspond to the immortal story of rAma. It is with this objective that nIlakaNTha, the great commentator on the mahAbhArata, has presented, with his own wonderful commentary, the mantra-rAmAyaNa. The mantra-rAmAyaNa is a compilation of Riks from the R^ig Veda that narrate the story of rAma or the rAmAyaNa.”

    2.As I have posted earlier the Vedas were not grasped in one shot.

    They were grasped by different Rishis at different times.

    Hence the reference to  Rama in the Ramayana could have been included in the later revelations, while a portion of the Vedas were in existence before Rama, which Rama followed.

    Reference of Sita in Ramayana.

    1. If one were to look at the etymology of the word Sita, it means Furrow, indicating that Sita was found while using furrowing.

    As such she was considered to be daughter of Earth.

    As Sita was found while using the Furrow, she might have been given the name Sita.

    The name given to her was Janaki, daughter of Janaka..

    This practice is called Thaddidhaantam, that of linking the the name of the offspring to father.

    Thus Rama is also called Dasarathy.

    The other explanation for Sita being mentioned in the Vedas is the same as stated for Rama.

    Citation.

    https://ramanisblog.in/2014/08/07/ramayana-in-the-rig-veda/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sita#Legend

  • Who Saw Rama As Vishnu In Physical Form, Ramayana

    Who saw Lord Rama as Vishnu Himself in Human Form?

    There are references in The Ramayana of people recognizing Rama as Vishnu.

    Hanuman, Shiva and Rama.Image.jpg
    Hanuman, Shiva and Rama.

    Viswamitra makes the first mention of this when he tells Dasaratha, while taking Rama with him that Dasaratha did not realize who Rama was, implying he knew Rama was Vishnu , but he did not express it openly.

    The next instance is when Parashurama’s Astra fails, He addresses Rama as an Incarnation of Vishnu.

    Then Ravana realizes Rama was none other than Vishnu, the Pranava Swaroopa, when Ravana’s Sakthi Ayudha fails.

    Later Vibhishana knew Rama was Vishnu.

    But it is Hanuman who sees Rama as Vishnu by looking at Rama the first instance, as Vishnu .

    That too in Vishnu in His Physical form.

    Valmiki talks of this.

    aayataaH cha suvR^ittaaH cha baahavaH parighopamaaH || 4-3-14
    sarva bhuuShaNa bhuuShaarhaaH kim artham na vibhuuShitaaH |

    14b, 15a. aayataaH su vR^ittaaH baahavaH= lengthy, spherical, too, are arms; parighaH upamaH= clubs, in similarity; sarva bhuuSaNa bhuuSa arhaaH= for all kinds of, ornaments, decor-worthy; kim artham= for what, reason; na vibhuuSitaaH= not decorated.

    “Also lengthy are your hands, and spherical are your shoulders similar to clubs… they are worthy for decoration with every kind of ornament, for what reason they are undecorated… [4-3-14b, 15a]

    Here in the verse plural number is used for hands, aayataaH, baahavaH, parighaaH, whereas so far, dual number, dvivachana is used to describe any two. The ancient commentators take this as many hands, more than two, as opposite to other dual numbered wording. For this it is said that since Lakshmana is a right hand to Rama, Hanuma sees a three-handed god in Rama. But Hanuma is talking to both Rama and Lakshmana; there shall be two deities with two hands each. The accepted phenomenon is that, Hanuma as a true devotee has seen the fourhanded Vishnu in Rama. This is according to Govindaraja. Next, the arms of Rama are of protective nature to the friendly ones. aayaataaH, lengthily ones – they can be stretched to any extent, and on the other hand, anything can depend on them, as in yopaam aayatanam veda… and this su vrittaaH, round like the serpent’s hoods, or body builder’s clubs, is to tell that no one can near them. Thus, the spherical universe can depend on the spherical shoulders of Rama. Thus Hanuma is reminding Rama of his wild-boar incarnation where the whole world is lifted on his snout from waters. The word parighaH, is to say that those spherical shoulders can remove difficulties of those who adore them. The parighaH in simple terms means, clubs, bludgeon, or ancient dumbbell unlike the present day dumbbells of gym, but the word is deciphered to be pari gha fully, removing, or fully, falling to one’s lot. That is, here these shoulders are mighty to eliminate Vali and these hands if shook by Sugreeva in friendship, Sugreeva’s miseries will be removed completely..

    In Sanskrit there are different  words for  addressing a Single person(Eka Vachana), two (Dwivachana) and more than two(Bahu Vachana)

    Citation.

    http://www.valmikiramayan.net/kishkindha/sarga3/kishkindha_3_prose.htm