Two ancient languages of India, Sanskrit and Tamil talk of The Ramayana and Mahabharata.
Sanskrit and Tamil quote each other that it well-nigh impossible to know which is earlier.
Ravana’s Stargate
Ramayana was written by Valmiki in Sanskrit and was extensively quoted by ancient Tamil Literature, some as old as five thousand years.
There is also evidence to suggest that Valmiki knew Tamil and wrote Tamil Vanmikakovai.
Post on Was Valmiki a Tamil?, follows.
The Ramayana speaks of Ravana as a Rakshasa.
He is also described as Asura, meaning a man of immense Strength and Valor.
The Rakshasas, according to Puranas, lived down south, an allegory that they lived south of the Vindhyas.
There are references to Kumari Kandam, a Super Continent, of which Lanka formed a part.
The three kings of South India had close contacts with the kings of Lanka.
To such an antiquity that Ravana, who was engaged in stirring trouble in the Pandya Kingdom.
He was reported to have been checked by a Pandya King and Ravana sued for Peace.
This has been found in the Chinnamanur inscriptions, Tamil Nadu.
“The Sanskrit portion of the bigger Sinnamanur plates begins with a fragmentary verse in which the king (perhaps Pandya) boasts of having subdued the ocean — an attribute which the mythical Pandya kings generally assumed in consequence, perhaps, of their sea-bordering kingdom, their naval power, and their sea-borne trade, from the earliest historical times. From him were descended the kings known as Pandyas (v. 2) ‘who engraved their edicts on the Himalaya mountain’ and whose family-priest was the sage Agastya (v. 3). One of the Pandya kings is said to have occupied the throne of Indra (v. 4) and another to have shared it with that god, and still another, to have caused the Ten-Headed (i.e., Ravana of Lanka) to sue for peace (v. 5). One was a conqueror of the epic hero Arjuna Verse 8 refers to a king who cut off his own head in order to protect that of his master and also to a certain Sundara-Pandya who had mastered all the sciences. Many kings of this family had performed Vedic sacrifices Rajasuya and Asvamedha (v. 9).”
“Pathupattu in Tamil (Ten long poems) has ten books and one of them is Maduraikanchi. This very long poem has a reference to Ravana (lines 40-42).”
* I am unable to vouch this as these lines do not see to refer Ravana.
“தொள் முது கடவுள் பின்னர் மேய,
வரைத் தாழ் அருவிப் பொருப்பின் பொருந!”
The above is from Madurai Kanchi,a Sangam Literary work, there seems to be no reference to Ravana here.
Comments welcome.
There are references by Nachinarkiniyar, a Tamil Commentator of the Sanga Era on Agsthya and Ravana.
And there is a reference by Kalidasa in Raghuvamsa.
(This raises the question about Kalidasa’a Date)
““Pandya wore pearl garlands and sandal paste. He was soaked in Avabrutha Snanam during Asvamedha yajna. Ravana was so scared that Pandya may attack and capture his Janasthana (in Dandakaranya), so he made a peace treaty with the Pandya king and then went to win Indraloka. Pandya was praised for receiving a weapon (Brahmsiras) from Lord Shiva.
Eric Von Daniken has written a couple of books on Aliens saying that the Aliens visited the Earth, Modified our genes and are monitoring our progress.
He theorizes that the Aliens have programmed our genes towards a particular goal and are watching whether the programme is working properly.
He also surmises Lord Rama was an Alien.
Rama’s Welcome at Ayodhya after Winning the War.
There are other theories that the aliens have camouflaged themselves in the earth and taken various forms.
I shall be posting an article as how the genes have been modified and what the present day scientists think of this theory.
I did some research on this subject and have come up with some references to Aliens, Alien Technology in the Ramayana, Mahabharata and the Puranas.
In the light of the fact that the Ramayana and Mahabharata have been proved to be not mere stories but facts and are authenticated by Astronomy, archeology and History,one can not wish away the references in the these texts as pure imagination.
These references are also backed up by the Puranas or is the other way around?
Hinduism and Puranas describe various forms of Beings.
While the descriptions of Rama, Krishna, to cite a few, are Human descriptions, the others like Ravana, the Asuras, Gandharvas, Rakshsas, Nagas, Kinnaras, Kimpurushas.
Of these some descriptions come near our present projection of Humanoids.
I had posted an article that Hanuman might be a Humanoid, Kumbhakarna , a Robot!
The Puranas and the Ithihasas, Ramayana and Mahabharata list,
There is a view that some of these or all of them are tribes.
” Devas were further classified into Vasus, Rudras, Maruts, Sadhyas and Adityas. Asuras were similarly divided into Daityas, Danavas, Kalakeyas etc. Among the Daityas were a group called the Nivata Kavachas. However today, we can find the remnants of most of these tribes. Yakshas are found as Yakkas in Nepal, Tibet and Srilanka. Nagas are found as Nagas of Nagaland in eastern India, Nairs and Nagars in southern India. Gandharvas were ancient Gandharas. Pisachas lived in Kashmir attested by the Paisachi languages. Asura-philosophy of hatred towards Devas like Indra is found in the Iranian Veda named Avesta. Kinnaras are found as Kinnaurs in Himachal Pradesh. We also know that people who were considered as humans had interbred with these tribes. Asura Vrishaparva’s daughter became a wife of Yayati and gave birth to sons like Puru. Pandava Bhima had a son named Ghatotkacha upon a Rakshasa women named Hidimba. Ravana himself was a son of sage Visrava and Rakshasa lady Kaikasi. Ravana’s wife Mandodari was an Asura. Ravana had many wives who were Gandharvas. Visrava’s eldest son Vaisravana Kuvera is mentioned as a Yaksha. Thus we can conclude that these tribes were humans but were considered as alien or non-human only in relative terms. We also find that these tribes, today have no memory of them being super human in the past as described by the authors of Mahabharata.”
But the point is that there is no necessity for them to declare themselves as Super humans if they have camouflaged themselves to escape identity on the earth.
Moreover, the Ithihasas were written later to the events.
If these were written by some one who is also an Alien , he would not have disclosed facts about the Aliens.
If he were an ordinary human being, he would not have understood them being under camouflage and therefore the writer described them as they were or as he understood them.
“There is also a view that if they were Aliens they would not have been easily accessible for they lived in places that are easily accessible.
If we look at the geographical locations of these tribes, we find that they, at-least for some period of time during their existence, lived in inaccessible regions like mountains and forests and/or lived isolated from the regions of the authors of Mahabharata. Pisachas lived in the mountains of Kashmir. Yakshas, Kinnaras and Kimpurushas lived in high Himalays or in Tibet, cut off from the authors of Mahabharata who lived in the Indo-Gangatic plain to the south of the Himalayas. Gandharvas too lived in the high mountains of Gandhara and only in later stages moved to Saraswati river basin. They also continued to live along with Yakshas in high mountains. Devas lived further north to Yaksha territories, and lied towards the east. The Asuras lived to the west and north of Gandhara. Vanaras lived in the dense forest named Dandaka in the central and south-central India. Rakshasas lived in the mountains of Trikuta (Ravana) and the Himalayas (Ghatotkacha) or in dense forests (Vaka, Kirmira, Hidimba). Thus the attribution that they were non-human or alien was also due to the fact that they were not easily accessible to the writers of Mahabharata and their lives seemed to them to be mysterious”
That they were accessible does not necessarily mean that they need not have been Aliens for their purpose had been (?) to be with the earthlings, yet to be away from their midst except when necessary.
Also why should a particular Group should stay in a particular region only?
Also note the following facts described.
” Some examples are explanations about flying vehicles (Vimanas), Arjuna’s travels in a flying chariot across the Himalayas, his visit of the Deva territories (ancient alien base-camp in Tibet?), his battle with the Nivata Kavachas (men in space-suits?), Salwa’s attack of the city of Dwaraka in a flying city named Saubha, the triple space-cities of Asuras that revolved around Earth in three circular orbits that was destroyed by Siva using a single projectile weapon, the flying craft of Uparichara Vasu, the Puspaka-Vimana used by Kuvera, Ravana, Vibhishana and Rama, , Rama’s bridge to Lanka across the ocean, the narration of the birth of Kauravas from the cells of an embryo outside the womb of a women, the narrations about celestial-weapons (Divya-Astras) that unleash high energy in the form of fire (explosions), water (rain), air (storm), the narration about the after effects of such weapons suggestive of the use of a nuclear weapon (nails falling down, regions turning into deserts, death of embryos even in womb), the idea that these weapons are invoked by mantras (voice enabled weapons?) and many more.”
We have descriptions of the Astras,which have produced effects similar or more or less identical with the effects of Nuclear weapons.
Read my posts on this.
Alien Technology.
Extra-terrestrial aliens, in the form of local aliens like the Devas, the Asuras, the Gandharvas, the Yakshas etc interacted with ancient Indians and probably transferred some alien technologies like flying vehicles (Vimanas) and voice-enabled non-nuclear, thermo-nuclear and nuclear projectile weapons (Mantra-invoked celestial-weapons aka Divya-Astras) to them. Did they also assist ancient Indians in creating some wonderful cities? While Indraprastha was built by the Pandavas, a special assembly hall in that city is mentioned as built by Asura Danava Maya who was an architect. The city of Dwaraka is mentioned as built by Deva Viswakarma, who too was an architect. The city of Amaravati belonged to the Devas. The city of Alaka belonged to the Yakshas. The city of Bhogavati belonged to the Nagas. The city of Hiranyapura belonged to the Daitya Nivata Kavachas. All these contained several technological wonders aka illusions.
There is also this strange narration of the birth of Kauravas from the cells divided from an embryonic ball of flesh in artificial environments. This could be a later alien genetic experiment. Though I don’t think the Kauravas were born thus, the narration of this alien genetic experiment might have added to Mahabharata as a later addition and might have used to explain the birth of the Kauravas by later narrators of Mahabharata.”
My view is that there have been Aliens and Hinduism describe them.
I shall be posting on the Earth as Hollow and that The North and South Poles have openings and people(modern) have traveled through them.
There is a Temple in Hassan, Karnataka, where the Food offered to the Deity remains warm and edible after one year;lamps lit Ghee in the Sanctum remains burning for a Year, without the Ghee being replenished as the Temple does not remain open for a year after closing.
Hasanamba Temple,Hassan
This Hasanmba Temple built around 12 Century AD.
Hasanamba means’ ever smiling’
The Temple is open for only a week during Deepavali Festival and is reopened the next year during Deepavali.
Legend.
The devotees believe that the benevolent Goddess smiles down upon them and showers her blessings. In many Indian languages, ‘hasya’ means humor. It is believed that the Goddess smiles down on the devotees who worship her.
While she is worshipped for being benevolent, she is also harsh to those who choose to harm her devotees. There is a belief that Amma Hasanamba turned a mother in law, who tortured Devi’s devotee the (daughter in law), in to a stone in front of her. It is believed it the stone moves an inch every year and when it reaches the lotus feet of Hasanamba the period of kaliyuga will end.
Once 4 robbers attempted to rob jewels of Hasanamba and Devi turned them in to stones. And these four stones can be still seen in Kallappa Gudi.
How To reach.
The Hasanamba temple is in the heart of Hassan city and can easily be reached by road from Hassan in an auto rickshaw. It is just a couple of hours away from Bangalore by road and is convenient as a weekend getaway with plenty of accommodation options available in and around Hassan.
Here the Ravana’s Sculpture has only Nine heads instead of Ten.
Struck by the Astra of Indrajit, son of Ravana, Lakshmana fainted.
On the advice of Sage Agastya, Hanuman flew and brought the Sanjeevi Parvatha, unable to find a particular herb to the battle field in Sri Lanka.
While bringing it, he had to pass through a temple of Lord Venkateswara.
Prasana Venkateswara temple,Thirumalaivaiyavoor.
He wanted to worship the Lord.
As a mark of respect, he shifted the Sanjeevi parvatha from his left hand to the right.
As Hanuman did not keep the mountain down, the place is called ‘place where the mountain was not kept’ திருமலை வையாவூர்.
The Prasanna Venkatesa Temple is 70 km from Chennai and 18 km from Chengalpattu.
Nearest Railway station.Chennai, Chengalpattu.
Bus Station.Chengalpattu.
While traveling from Chennai, after crossing Chengalpattu, one can find Padaalam Cross Road (Koot Road) from where a road goes off GST Road on the right side. This road leads to Thirumalai Vaiyaavoor.
Airport. Chennai.
Buses are available from Chengalpattu.
The main deity Sri Srinivaasa Perumaal is seen facing west.
The Lord is beautifully decorated with ornaments and gives dharshan exactly as in Thirupathi. Goddess Sri Alarmel Mangai Thaayaar has a separate shrine here.
There are separate shrines for Sri Aandaal and Sri Ramanuja too.
More legends.
Once a demon king called Hiranyaakshan took the earth and kept under his custody, hiding it deep inside the ocean. Lord Vishnu took Varaaha Avatar, killed the demon and brought back the earth to its position. After this Sri Varaaha Perumaal wished to take abode on a hill to bless the world. He directed Sri Garuda to bring a hill from Vaikuntam itself. Sri Garuda Bhagavan brought a hill from Vaikuntam and placed it near the banks of Swarnamuki River, which was called Garudagiri (present Thirupathi). While Sri Garuda carried the hill, a small part of it broke and fell near the banks of the river Palar and came to be known as Dhakshina Garudagiri (Thirumalai Vaiyaavoor).
After placing the hill in the banks of river Swarnamuki, Sri Garuda prayed God to see His Viswaroopa Dharsanam. As wished by Sri Garuda, Lord Vishnu gave him Viswaroopa Dharshan in the form of Sri Varaaha Perumaal here at Dhakshina Garudagiri.
Once, Lord Vishnu told Sri Aadhiseshan to take the form of a mountain on Garudagiri, for Him to take abode and bless the world during Kaliyugam. Sri Aadhiseshan took form of a hill on Garudagiri and from then the place (Thirupathi) came to be known as Seshagiri. Lord Vishnu took abode as Sri Srinivaasa Perumaal on Seshagiri in the Thamizh month of Purattaasi, on the day of Dwadasi when ‘Thiruvonam’ star occurred.
Sri Aadhiseshan prayed Sri Srinivaasa Perumaal and told that he had a wish to serve as an umbrella to the Lord. Sri Srinivaasa Perumaal agreed and told that his wish would come true at Dhakshina Garudagiri. In Thirumalai Vaiyaavoor Sri Aadhiseshan is seen above the deity Sri Srinivaasa Perumaal’s head as an umbrella. Hence, this place came to be known as Dhakshina Seshagiri.
Lord Rama went to Sri Lanka and brought back Sita, after killing Ravana, who had kidnapped Sita.
Asokavatika.
Hanuman was sent earlier by Rama to search for Sita and He located Sita in Sri Lanka.
‘Based on this information Rama proceeded to Sri Lanka.
Lord Rama , with the help of the Vanaras, built a Bridge between Rameswaram and Sri Lanka and it is called the Adams’ bridge.
This is where I get sidetracked.Ramaeswaram.
Adams Bridge is 18 miles long.
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The bridge is 18 miles (30 km) long and separates the Gulf of Mannar (southwest) from the Palk Strait (northeast)-wiki.
Valmiki mentions that Hanuman flew100 Yojanas across the sea from Rameshwaram to Lanka.
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The glorious Hanuma with the best courage, even though crossing a hundred yojanas, was without a sigh and did not obtain any tiredness.
Comment : This verse and others clearly mention that Hanuma crossed an ocean of hundred yojanas. At the present time the shore to shore distance between southern tip of India and Northern tip of Sri Lanka is around sixty miles. Even with a measure of 2.5 miles per yojana, hundred yojanas translate to 250 miles. To explain this anomaly, we need to consider that around the time of Ramayana, the distance was lot more than the current sixty miles. This is in sync with the current theories by geologists that the ocean between India and the current Sri Lanka had been replaced by land mass over a period of time. Most of the land to the south of current Raghunatha Pura had been covered by landmass in antiquity. Also according to Ramayana, the mountains Trikuta, Lamba and Suvela were to the north of Lanka, but currently the mountains are found in the southern part of Lanka. This suggests that the northern parts of current Lanka were submerged in water during the Ramayana period.”
( in the observation quoted above, one point is to be noted.The discrepancy would still exist even if Geographical positions change because the time gap between Hanuman crossing over the Ocean and Rama crossing over by Rama Sethu is too short for any geographical changes to have happened.There is no record of it in Ramayana or elsewhere for such a change)
Accepted conversion of One Yojana is 8 Miles.
One Yojana is approximately 8 miles,
Hanuman flew 8oo miles from Rameshwaram to reach Lanka.
But the bridge is only 18 Miles!
“Sri Lanka is an island nation-state in the Indian Ocean. It is located 880 kilometers (547 miles) north of the equator, off the southern tip of India, and has a maximum length of 432 kilometers (268 miles) and a maximum width of 224 kilometers (139 miles).”
The southern tip of Sri Lanka is 565 Miles(547+18) from Rameswaram.
Assuming that the farthest place was where Ravana’s capital was located, there is still a shortfall of 235 miles.(800-18=782-547=235)
Only possible explanation is that these 235 miles could have been of shallow water and Hanuman flew over this as well.
Asokavatika, Nuwara Eliya, where Sita was imprisoned is 189.03 miles, and 164.16 nautical miles from Rameswaram.
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