Tag: Ramayana

  • World During Ramayana Part 2 Uyghur Ramayana Central Asia.

    This article is in continuation of my article ‘what was happening in the world during Ramayana, Part 1 India’.

    As I wrote in that article, the landmass was different from what it is today.

    See the map below.

    There were four ancient civilizations in those ancient times,out of them evolved the others.

    One of these,were the Uighurs,presently a bone of contention between China and Russia.

    The Uighurs demand a separate State and China is against it.

    Mu was a part of Lemuria?
    MU geography

    The Indian Government, which issued a Visa to  an Uighur Nationalist, canceled it in the face of objection by China.

    The four ancient civilizations.

    1.Uighur.

    2.Atlantis.

    3.Lemuria and

    4.Rama Empire.

    These civilizations were in constant touch with each other ,either as Allies or Enemies.

    Lord Rama belonged to the Lemurians as His ancestor Satyavrata Manu, also known as Vaivaswatha Manu was in the Dravida Desa before migrating to Ayodhya, where his son Ikshvaku founded a Dynasty of the same name,to which Rama belongs,the Solar dynasty,Surya Vamsa.

    https://ramanisblog.in/2014/12/30/manu-ramas-ancestor-migrated-from-south-india-5000-bc/

    So much so Rama refused to fight againt the Lemurians when the people of Atlantis wanted him to do so.

    Please read my article Rama Dropped Atom Bomb againt Atlantis Mohenjo Daro

    During Rama’s reign Lemuria and the Uighurs were on the wane, the Lemurians were in more serious trouble than the Uighurs and the Atlantis and Rama Empires were flourishing.

    However the,Atlantian empire had internal dissensions .

    King Atlas (King Of Atlantis) and Prince Osiris (heir to the throne) desired to create secondary domains where they could re-establish the Lemurian Empire . This intention was thwarted by the actions of Osiris’ younger brother, the Emperor Seth. As present ruler of the Libyan/Egyptian Empire (that covered all of Africa), Seth decided that with the fall of Atlantis his Empire (in league with the rebel Sons of Belial) was to be its last stronghold. He made it his goal to re-establish the Atlantean Empire with himself as its all-powerful, ‘divine right’ emperor (of the world).

    ‘conflicting objectives resulted in deadly warfare between Osiris and his brother Seth. Leading Osiris’s Egyptian armies was Osiris’ eldest son Horus. After Osiris’ unfortunate ‘death’, Horus succeeded his father as king of the Libyan/Egyptian Empire. Intuitively, Horus knew what would happen when they landed in Libya. He completely distrusted his uncle. Horus persistently warned his father about Seth’s stubbornness and treachery. Osiris, believing in the goodness of the human heart, initially ignored his son’s advice. Subsequently, Osiris landed in Libya and after Seth’s abdication became Emperor’

    After the demise of Osiris, his son Horus entered into a pact with Rama Empire(Emperor Zata’ar’s eldest son, Prince Rama.) to defeat Seth, the usurper.’

    The Atlantis army met with Rama’s Army in Rishi City, now in Pakistan’

    You may refer the article in th link I have provided in the beginning of the article.

    Who are Uighurs?

    The Uyghurs (/ˈɡərz, ˈwɡərz/; Uyghur: ئۇيغۇر, Уйғур‎, ULY: Uyghur ʔʊjˈʁʊː]; Old Turkic: 𐰺𐰍𐰖𐰆; Chinese: 维吾尔族; pinyin: Wéiwúěr zú) are a Turkic ethnic group living in Eastern and Central Asia. Today, Uyghurs live primarily in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region in China, where they are one of 55 officially recognized ethnic minorities.

    They primarily practice Islam, and are a physically diverse ethnic group ranging from Western Eurasian (Europeans, Middle Eastern) to a more East Asian appearance.

    An estimated 80% of Xinjiang’s Uyghurs live in the southwestern portion of the region, the Tarim Basin.Outside Xinjiang, the largest community of Uyghurs in China is in Taoyuan County, in south-central HunanOutside of China, significant diasporic communities of Uyghurs exist in the Central Asian countries of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Uzbekistan, and in Turkey’

    (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghurs )

    However ,the history of the Uyghurs is quite ancient.

    The Ksitigarbha Cult in Central Asia can be traced to Vedic Yama.

    Check the book’ The Scripture on the Ten Kings by  Stephen  F. Teiser

    The book also establishes the Buddhist roots as well.

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    The Uyghurs might have had a continuous feud with the Lemurians/Mu People.

    MU is beieved to be either a part of Lemuria or a distinct civilization ,though it seems to be Tamil.

    See the Map provided in the article.

    After Muslim invasion early Uyghur history is hard to come by.

    You may visit the following link to get an idea.

    http://xjubier.free.fr/en/site_pages/china/Xinjiang_Hami_pg01.html

     

    As this place is in China information ,as usual,brief.

    Considering these facts it may be postulated that the Uyghurs were present during Rama’s reign as evidenced by Atlantis Chronicles.

    Also by the Uyghur Ramayana.

    From the Uighur ‘Ramayana’ to see the melting of Buddhism in India epic photo


    [Summary] ‘Ramayana’ is a famous Indian epic, one of the two, in the transmission of the ancient Uighur, a simplified version of its Uighur been unearthed in Turpan, Uighur unearthed in Dunhuang Buddhist poetry, the of ‘Ramayana’ are also described. Despite the existence of these Uighur ‘Ramayana’ writing this is already very dilapidated, but is not difficult to see that although the backbone of its story from the Hindu mythology, but in the process of being accepted, and after the re-creation of the Uighurs, and Sanskrit The ‘Ramayana’ exists between the very different. Note 9 to the 15th century, the Uighur Buddhists in terms of employment of its story the same time, of a comprehensive transformation of its contents thoroughly Buddhism, becoming a Fotuhongzhuan Buddhism, a powerful weapon to promote donation.

    [Keywords:] Buddhism, Buddhist literature, the Hindu epic poem written in this Dunhuang Turfan Uighur literature

    [Abstract] Rā mayana is one of the most two famous hero-epics of India, and was translated into Uighur during the 9th to 15th centuries. Related fragments of the Uighur manuscripts had been discovered in Turpan and Dunhuang. The Uighur texts are different to master copy in Sanskrit, through them, it can be seen that among the Uighurs, Rā mayana, the popular epic and ornate poetry belongs to Buddhism instead of Brahmanism or Hindus, and was used to disseminate the Buddhism.

    [Key Words] Buddhism; Indian epics; Buddhist literature; Uighur manuscripts; Dunhuang and Turpan texts

    Mention the famous Indian epic ‘Ramayana (Rā mayana)’, people will naturally be it with the Hindu Brahmanism and later linked. In fact, the situation is not always the case, we have studied here, Turpan the Uighur ‘Ramayana’ written volume that is clearly the exception. This paper documents through the translation, textual research to explore the close relationship between literature and Buddhism, and then spy on the Indian epic Uighur Buddhist ‘Ramayana’ absorption and transformation.
    In ancient China, there are a large number of Indian books have been translated into Chinese, but apart from a few concerning the livelihood of the Department of medicine, astronomy, mathematics books, the rest almost all uniformly of the Buddhist Scriptures, for the heretics of the book, the Buddhist monks of China and India are not translated, and even the world famous Indian epic, the two ‘Mahabharata’ and ‘Ramayana’ are not translated over. [1] Fortunately, there is, but added China has translated several of minorities ‘Ramayana’. Uighur in Berlin today to write this deposit shall be left of them to Jane.
    Is now known Uighur ‘Ramayana’ time of writing this there are two: First, the examination paper fragments of a leaf type, size 30 * 95cm. Positive for the Uighur Buddhist repentance, [2] on the back of scroll bottom half of useful written in cursive style Uighur Rama story in the text before (only in the back) marked with thick black lines, between text lines on the write. The volume was the second time a German expedition in the Turpan Turpan West Jiaohegucheng received while preserving the text 34 lines, numbered Mainz 734b (T II Y 47). Second, the time of writing this fragment a leaf, keep writing 14 lines, numbered U 1000 (T Ⅲ 86-64), a German expedition in the third Turpan Turpan derived from a certain place. Both are possession of the German National Library in Berlin (Staatsbibliothek Preussischer Kulkurbesitz), by the German scholar Zieme Kanbu. [3] but long-term is not drawn to academic concerns. [4] In addition, unearthed in Dunhuang in Uighur Buddhist poetry, but also with ‘Ramayana’ related content. Is to preserve the good, the content of a more extensive piece of writing, for example the first to explore the characteristics of Uighur Rama story.
    First, the original transcription.

    And the Ten kings referred to might relate to the Ten Kings War during the Vedic period, thus dating the Uyghurs to Vedic period.

  • Cholas Ancestors of Rama?

    The genealogy of Manu is very interesting.

    Manu is reported to be the first Man.

    Hence the name Manusha(Sanskrit),Manithan(Tamil), Man (English).

    Manu meditated in Madagascar while a Tsunami struck and His son Ikshvaku left for Ayodhya with his sons.

    His son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku dynasty ,the Solar Dynasty , to which Lord Rama belongs.

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    But what happened to Manu’s daughters?

    A detailed research reveals interesting information.

    Manu had a daughter Ila.

    She was married to Chandra,Moon and the offspring was Budha.

    While many versions of the tale exist, Ila is usually described as a daughter or son of Vaivasvata Manu and thus the sibling of Ikshvaku, the founder of the Solar Dynasty. In versions in which Ila is born female, she changes into a male form by divine grace soon after her birth. After mistakenly entering a sacred grove as an adult, Ila is either cursed to change his/her gender every month or cursed to become a woman. As a woman, Ilā married Budha, the god of the planet Mercury and the son of the lunar deity Chandra (Soma), and bore him a son called Pururavas, the father of the Lunar dynasty. After the birth of Pururavas, Ilā is transformed into a man again and fathered three sons.

    In the Vedas, Ilā is praised as Idā (Sanskrit: इडा), goddess of speech, and described as mother of Pururavas. ‘

    She begot a son Pururavas.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ila_(Hinduism)https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ila_(Hinduism)

    Hence the descendants of this Dynasty were called the Lunar Dynasty, Chandra Vamsa.

    The Kuru Dynasty of Mahabharata,which was named after one of the ancestors.

    Manu had a grand daughter through his daughter called Dakshina,one meaning of the term is South.

    It is probable that she was the founder of the Lunar Dynasty , she was also called Ila.

    Ila’s son was called Ellalan,who ruled the south.

    Ellalan in Tamil means ‘one who rules the boundaries’

    He was a king of the present Sri Lanka.

    Mahavamsa of Sri Lanka records that he was a Chola and a noble king.

     

    He was also called as Manu Needhi Chola, A Chola King in Dravida Desa.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellalan

     

    Now there is the famous Emperor Sibi who belonged to Solar Dynasty.

     

    His date preceds Rama’s.

    ‘The words “Kumari Kandam” first appear in Kanda Puranam, a 15th-century Tamil version of the Skanda Purana, written by Kachiappa Sivacharyara (1350-1420).[3] Although the Tamil revivalists insist that it is a pure Tamil name, it is actually a derivative of the Sanskrit words “Kumarika Khanda”.The Andakosappadalam section of Kanda Puranam describes the following cosmological model of the universe: There are many worlds, each having several continents, which in turn, have several kingdoms. Paratan, the ruler of one such kingdom, had eight sons and one daughter. He further divided his kingdom into nine parts, and the part ruled by his daughter Kumari came to be known as Kumari Kandam after her. Kumari Kandam is described as the kingdom of the Earth. Although the Kumari Kandam theory became popular among anti-Brahmin anti-Sanskrit Tamil nationalists, the Kanda Puranam actually describes Kumari Kandam as the land where the Brahmins also reside, where Shiva is worshipped and where the Vedas are recited. The rest of the kingdoms are described as the territory of the mlecchas.[5]

    He ruled from the north and conquered the south, defeating his maternal cousins.

    This is recorded in the Temple history of Thiruvellarai, temple dedicated to Lord Vishnu as Pundarikaksha.

    Please read my detailed article on this.

    This Vishnu temple is older than Sri Rangam Ranganatha Temple in Tamil Nadu.

    Ramayana records that Vibhishana requested the Idol of Lord Ranganatha from Lord Rama and though Rama gave him, Vishnu,Ranganatha stayed back at Sri Rangam, where He faces Sri Lanka.

    So the Cholas were the ancestors of Rama and not the other war around.

    (I have written earlier that Cholas were descendants of Rama. As this blog is research oriented I write as I come by evidence. So there is updation and clarification and there is no contradiction.)

    Considering the facts,

    ‘Manu left for the North because of A Tsunami

    Tamil is an ancient language of India which runs parallel to Sanskrit.

    A Million year old site found near Chennai records an advanced Tamil civilization.

    The sunken harbor of Poompuhar, Tamil Nadu, which is spoken of in detail in the Tamil Epic Cilappadikaram,is dated 20,000 years ago..

    Such an old culture refers to Sanskrit and Sanskrit in turn refers to Tamil.

    Then there is Sage Agastya who is present both in Tamil and Sanskrit.

    So is Sage Valmiki who is considered to be a Siddha and has written poems in Tamil.

    Such an intimacy between Sanatana Dharma and Tamils, yet there are differences though they present a unified picture!

    This has been a question I have been seeking  an answer to.

    The fact that Manu was from the South, Dravida.

    • One has to remember that the landmass in those ancient days was different and it has no relevance to what we call as North or South India now…

    Lord Rama refused to fight against the Lemurians while he was fighting the Atlantis people saying that Lemurians were his ancestors,

    Ravana,s ancestors Malyavan and Kubera were also from the area we now call as Lemuria

    https://ramanisblog.in/2016/11/10/dravida-lunar-culture-founded-by-ila-manu-daughter-ikshvaku-dynasty/

    It may be noted that,

    Shiva worship  in the Dravida desa  preceded Vedic  period,

    The Tamils though a part of Sanatana Dharma , their methods of worship of Shiva was different,

    The Siddha system and Yoga pre date Patanjal’s Yoga Sutra.

    The influence of Tamil mode of worship in fareastern countries is greater than Vishnu worship.

     

    It stands to reason to postulate thar the Cholas preceded Ramayan and this can also be confirmed by the fact tha Tamil Kings were present during Damayanti’s Swayamvar.

    Nala and Damayanti predate Rama.

    One may also note thar there is Ila people in Zambia.

    A tribe in Cameroon still speak Tamil.

    Hittie civilization has its in Tamils.

    The genealogy of Manu dynasty .

    Maitreya said: Svāyambhuva Manu begot three daughters in his wife Śatarūpā, and their names were Ākūti, Devahūti and Prasūti.

    SB 4.1.2: Ākūti had two brothers, but in spite of her brothers, King Svāyambhuva Manu handed her over to Prajāpati Ruci on the condition that the son born of her be returned to Manu as his son. This he did in consultation with his wife, Śatarūpā.

    SB 4.1.3: Ruci, who was very powerful in his brahminical qualifications and was appointed one of the progenitors of the living entities, begot one son and one daughter by his wife, Ākūti.

    SB 4.1.4: Of the two children born of Ākūti, the male child was directly an incarnation of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and His name was Yajña, which is another name of Lord Viṣṇu. The female child was a partial incarnation of Lakṣmī, the goddess of fortune, the eternal consort of Lord Viṣṇu.

    SB 4.1.5: Svāyambhuva Manu very gladly brought home the beautiful boy named Yajña, and Ruci, his son-in-law, kept with him the daughter, Dakṣiṇā.

    SB 4.1.6: The Lord of the ritualistic performance of yajña later married Dakṣiṇā, who was anxious to have the Personality of Godhead as her husband, and in this wife the Lord was also very much pleased to beget twelve children.

    SB 4.1.7: The twelve boys born of Yajña and Dakṣiṇā were named Toṣa, Pratoṣa, Santoṣa, Bhadra, Sānti, Iḍaspati, Idhma, Kavi, Vibhu, Svahna, Sudeva and Rocana.

    SB 4.1.8: During the time of Svāyambhuva Manu, these sons all became the demigods collectively named the Tuṣitas. Marīci became the head of the seven ṛṣis, and Yajña became the king of the demigods, Indra.

    SB 4.1.9: Svāyambhuva Manu’s two sons, Priyavrata and Uttānapāda, became very powerful kings, and their sons and grandsons spread all over the three worlds during that period.

    SB 4.1.10: My dear son, Svāyambhuva Manu handed over his very dear daughter Devahūti to Kardama Muni. I have already spoken to you about them, and you have heard about them almost in full.

    SB 4.1.11: Svāyambhuva Manu handed over his daughter Prasūti to the son of Brahmā named Dakṣa, who was also one of the progenitors of the living entities. The descendants of Dakṣa are spread throughout the three worlds.’

    http://vanisource.org/wiki/SB_4.1:_Genealogical_Table_of_the_Daughters_of_Manu

    Please read my articles on Daksha in Antarctica.

  • Mankind History Dates Much  Earlier Hinduism Validated By Science

    Mankind History Dates Much  Earlier Hinduism Validated By Science

    I have received a few comments on some of my articles which date some temple, events a long way back.

    I have written that,

    Thiruvannamalai,Tamil Nadu is 3.94 Billion Years old,

    Tirupati 2100 Million Years old,

    A Million year old site found in Chennai indicated the presence of Tamil Civilization,

    Jwalapuram, Cuddapah,Telengana is 74,000 Yeas old,

    Poompuhar , Tamil Nadu, which has been dated 20,000 year back had advanced Tamil Civilization,

    Million Year old Kannada Brahmi  script has been found in Karnataka,

    120 Million year old  3 D Map has been found.

    Kailash Iraq Romania interconnected tunnels

    These are some of the articles and I have not listed all the articles which predate our known History   or what we have been taught a History.

    Below is a comment on one of the articles.

    ‘I don’t think temples can be dated as 3.94 Billion years orTirupati 2100 million years. These could be ages of rocks where the temples were built! That far back in time man had not come into the picture!

    FC
    On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Ramani’s blog wrote:
    > ramanan50 posted: “There are quite a few ancient temples of India which > are in good shape. Some of them have been assigned dates before > Christ,BC,though reluctantly despite strong evidence that they belong to > much earlier times. Please check my articles on 5000 years old te” >

    Common refrain of most of the comments are,

    1.Human Being did not exist in the time frame mentioned in some of my articles.

    2.Many of the artifacts mentioned in my article could not have been in existence(?) because it conflicts with  the known Ice Age, Iron Age, Copper Age and Bronze Age.

    3.Fact mentioned in my article areMyths and they are not scientifically validated.

    http://www.iflscience.com/environment/there-really-ancient-nuclear-reactor-africa/all/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_sapiens

    http://phys.org/news/2016-11-geologist-uncovers-billion-year-old-fossils-bacteria.html

    I would like to rercord my coments on the dates assigned to them.

    a)The dates assigned to Homo Spaiens are arrived at mainly on the basis of. human skeletons,remains,living quarters,rock/cave paintings,fossils available .

    These have been dated through Carbon dating in the case of fossils,places and landmarks/rocks.

    Carbon dating becomes useless for periods going back greater than 50,0000 yeras.Please read my article on Carbon dating.

    2.Infra red dating is used for other evidnece, and in some cases for even the skeletons and land mass.

    3.Geology is used to determine the dates for determing the dates of mountains and rocks.

    The point is Carbon dating can not determine the dates beyound 5000 years ago.

    Infra read and geologiocal dating can determine the total mass available for examination and not the specific part.

    That is let us say we have a rock.The rock sample may be dated by this method .

    It can not date the indents in the rock , say a Foor print.

    Average is arrived about the age of the material, taking into account the various factors in various parts of the sample and the factors foud in various parts neede not be the same.So an average is arrived at.

    More over ther atmospheric conditions existing, had existed have to be taken into acoount as also the changes in the atmosphere due to spots, Atomic blasts, which we know had happened.

    So if  we have a rock sample dated at 500 BC, it is best an educated guess , not a confirmed case beyond doubt.

    This is due to inadequacies of the technology involved.

    The same drawback is present is the other tools of dating like Infra Red, which have inbulit restrictions on.

    Hence the dates we now have are at best gueses based on information not fully correct.

    On the other hand how doesw one determine the various ages ?

    It is based on the available evidenc validated by these tools mentioned above.

    These tools as I have pointed out are not perfect and hence the verified information is not 100 % correct.

    STONE AGE.

    The Stone Age is contemporaneous with the evolution of the genus Homo, the only exception possibly being at the very beginning, when species prior to Homo may have manufactured tools.[3] According to the age and location of the current evidence, the cradle of the genus is the East African Rift System, especially toward the north in Ethiopia, where it is bordered by grasslands. The closest relative among the other living primates, the genus Pan, represents a branch that continued on in the deep forest, where the primates evolved. The rift served as a conduit for movement into southern Africa and also north down the Nile into North Africa and through the continuation of the rift in the Levant to the vast grasslands of Asia.

    Starting from about 4 million years ago (mya) a single biome established itself from South Africa through the rift, North Africa, and across Asia to modern China, which has been called “transcontinental ‘savannahstan’” recently.[4] Starting in the grasslands of the rift, Homo erectus, the predecessor of modern humans, found an ecological niche as a tool-maker and developed a dependence on it, becoming a “tool equipped savanna dweller.”[5]

    Stone age is first accepted r e corded History of Mankind and Homo Erectus is supposed to have evolved then.

    During 2010, fossilised animal bones bearing marks from stone tools were found in the Lower Awash Valley in Ethiopia. Discovered by an international team led by Shannon McPherron, at 3.4 million years old they are the oldest indirect evidence of stone tool use ever found anywhere in the world.[2] Archaeological discoveries in Kenya in 2015, identifying possibly the oldest known evidence of hominin use of tools to date, have indicated that Kenyanthropus platyops ( a 3.2 to 3.5-million-year-old Pliocene hominin fossil discovered in Lake Turkana, Kenya in 1999 ) may have been the earliest tool-users known.[6]

    The oldest known stone tools have been excavated from the site of Lomekwi 3 in West Turkana, northwestern Kenya, and date to 3.3 million years old.[7] Prior to the discovery of these “Lomekwian” tools, the oldest known stone tools had been found at several sites at Gona, Ethiopia, on the sediments of the paleo-Awash River, which serve to date them. All the tools come from the Busidama Formation, which lies above a disconformity, or missing layer, which would have been from 2.9 to 2.7 mya. The oldest sites containing tools are dated to 2.6–2.55 mya.[8] One of the most striking circumstances about these sites is that they are from the Late Pliocene, where previous to their discovery tools were thought to have evolved only in the Pleistocene. Rogers and Semaw, excavators at the locality, point out that:


    However it was during the Copper and Bronze Ages that Implements were developed and this is accepted.

    B

    Bronze and Copper Age.

    The Bronze Age is a period characterized by the use of bronzeproto-writing, and other early features of urban civilization. The Bronze Age is the second principal period of the three-age Stone-Bronze-Iron system, as proposed in modern times by Christian Jürgensen Thomsen, for classifying and studying ancient societies.

    An ancient civilization is defined to be in the Bronze Age either by smelting its own copper and alloying with tinarsenic, or other metals, or by trading for bronze from production areas elsewhere. Copper-tin ores are rare, as reflected in the fact that there were no tin bronzes in Western Asia before trading in bronze began in the third millennium BC. Worldwide, the Bronze Age generally followed the Neolithic period, with the Chalcolithic serving as a transition. Although the Iron Age generally followed the Bronze Age, in some areas (such as Sub-Saharan Africa), the Iron Age intruded directly on the Neolithic from outside the region.[1]

    Bronze Age cultures differed in their development of the first writing. According to archaeological evidence, cultures in Mesopotamia (cuneiform) and Egypt (hieroglyphs) developed the earliest viable writing systems.’

    It maybe noted that Vecic period,Mesopotamia,,Anatolia,Caucasus,Egyptian civilizations Have been taken into account.

    The assigned date on these studies for the Vedas is around 1800 BC!

    This despite the fact that Lord Rama’s date has been proved at 5114 BC.

    And consider these facts.

    Thiruvannamalai,TamilNadu,India has been dated at around 3.94 billion years.

    Tirupati is dated around 2100 million years.

    JWALAPURAM,Cuaddapah ,India is dated 74,000years ago.

    Kalpa Vigraha of Vishnu.

    Radiocarbon (C14) dating conducted by the University of California Radiation Laboratory on the heavy 9-inch thick timber sides and lid of the chest in which it was discovered arrived at readings that indicated a period around 26,450 BCE. 

    That would make it over 28,450 years old today, and about 23,300 years older than the legendary Hindu Kurukshetra war. 

    The idol was also tested by experts who concluded that it was the oldest Hindu idol in existence.’

    The Human foot Print in Tirupati is Man_made and is dated around 2100 million years.

    Apart from this records of Mu Civilization,Mayan and Aztec Civilizations have SAnatana Dharma/ Tamil connection and these were the ancestors of these civilizations.

    Then we have geologiacl proof based on tectonic plates movements that confirm the super continents of Rodina,Pangeaand others.

    Interesting fact is that these land masses were described in the Hindu texts in detail.

    Not only this..

    The flora and fauna described in Hindu texts confirm the details found in the study of these super continents.

    Then we have refernces to Lord Rama engaged in war with the Atlantic people.

    There were four Empires during the period of Rama.

    They were,

    Atlantis,

    Uighur,

    Rama and 

    Lemuria.

    Details of Lemuria abound in Tamil Classics and the Lemurian Continent dates back to thousands of years and these texts auote the Ramayana.

    This means that Ramayana and Mahabharata took place much earlier.

    Mahabharata took place  in Dwapara Yuga.

    The Time Scale of Hindus.


    The Viṣṇu Purāṇa Time measurement section of the Viṣṇu Purāṇa Book I Chapter III explains the above as follows:

    • 2 Ayanas (6-month periods, see above) = 1 human year or 1 day of the devas
    • 4,000 + 400 + 400 = 4,800 divine years (= 1,728,000 human years) = 1 Satya Yuga
    • 3,000 + 300 + 300 = 3,600 divine years (= 1,296,000 human years) = 1 Tretā Yuga
    • 2,000 + 200 + 200 = 2,400 divine years (= 864,000 human years) = 1 Dvāpara Yuga
    • 1,000 + 100 + 100 = 1,200 divine years (= 432,000 human years) = 1 Kali Yuga
    • 12,000 divine year = 4 Yugas (= 4,320,000 human years) = 1 Mahā-Yuga (also is equaled to 12000 Daiva (divine) Yuga)
    • [2*12,000 = 24,000 divine year = 12000 revolutions of sun around its dual]

    For BrahmaEdit

    • 1000 Mahā-Yugas = 1 Kalpa = 1 day (day only) of Brahma

    (2 Kalpas constitute a day and night of Brahma, 8.64 billion human years)

    • 30 days of Brahma = 1 month of Brahma (259.2 billion human years)
    • 12 months of Brahma = 1 year of Brahma (3.1104 trillion human years)
    • 50 years of Brahma = 1 Parārdha
    • 2 parardhas = 100 years of Brahma = 1 Para = 1 Mahā-Kalpa (the lifespan of Brahma) (311.04 trillion human years)

    One day of Brahma is divided into 1000 parts called charaṇas.’

    More and more archelogical evidence is piling up to prove Humans existed much earlier than the Stone Age.

    We have Pere Reis Map which turns our known history because it is dated 120 million years.

    Please read my article on Daksha’s 3 D Map of the world.

    Considering all these facts mentioned in Hindu Texts being validated by Science,it is surprising that Hindu texts are called Myths and theacademicians refuse to consider to revise the date of Indian History.

    References and citations.

    httpshttps://ramanisblog.in/2014/05/25/kalpa-vigraha-vishnu-charged-water-for-longevity-cia

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Age

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_units_of_time

  • Arabia Land Of Liquor From Dates,Ramayana

    I had written on the Kingdom of Rama and how it encompassed the world.

    Also how he fought against the Atlanteans.

    There are references in the Ramayana about the various Kingdoms where people belonging to Sanatana Dharma resided and some who did not subscribe to the Sanatana dharma and were called Milechas.

    Lord Rama.jpg
    Lord Rama In Sumeria

    There were also people though rooted in Sanatna Dharma followed a slightly different form of religion, like the Dravidas.

    One more group of people were those who were the antagonists of the  Kings who followed Sanatana Dharma and they were called as Dasyus.

    In the course of sifting through the groups mentioned in the Vedas,Puranas, Ramayana and Mahabharata , one comes across references to places which we now consider as Foreign.

    One has to remember that the landmass of ancient times was different from what it is today.

    Please read my articles on this.

     

    The Ramayana mentions Arabia thus,

    ikṣhūn madhūn tathā lājān maireyān cha vara āsavān |
    pānāni cha mahāarhāṇi bhakṣhyān cha uchcha avachān tathā || 1-53-2

    2. ikSuun madhuun tathaa laajaan = sugar-cane [and its dishes,] honey [and its dishes,] like that, cornflakes, [rice-flakes etc.,]; vara aasavaan [aasanaan] = best, liquors [or, with best wineglasses]; maireyaan ca = arracks [Arabic ‘arak ‘sweat’, ‘arak al-tamr ‘alcoholic spirit from dates in Arabia, and from sugar-cane and rice in India,] also; mahaa arhaaNi paanaani ca = highly [very,] apposite to [royalties and army-men,] drinks, further; tathaa = like that; ucca avacaan = verily, diverse; bhakSyaan ca = foodstuffs, also; [shabala vidadhe = Shabala, bestowed.]

    Shabala bestowed dishes of sugar cane and honey, and flakes of all sorts, like cornflakes, rice-flakes, also best arracks and liquors in best wineglasses, further, the drinks and foodstuffs that are very diverse and verily apposite to royalties and army-men. [1-53-2]’

    Valmiki Ramayana , Bala Kanda, Sarga 533, Sloka 2

    Arabia was known for Arrack, a local intoxicating Spirit brewed from Dates.

    Reference and Citation.

    http://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/baala/sarga53/balaroman53.htm

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  • Vasishtas Fourteen Dravidian Tribes Greeks Chinese Huns

    As one researches Indian history , one finds innumerable references to Yavanas(Greeks),Sakas, Nagas,Hunas….

    While we dig deep we find these groups listed as tribes of Bharatavarsha.

    The Pashupati seal from the Indus Valley Civilization.image,jpg
    The Pashupati seal from the Indus Valley Civilization. 2600–1900 BCE

    These references are found from the Rig Veda , the earliest  text of the world and these are repeatedly mentioned in the Ramayana, Mahabharata, Eighteen Puranas, Tamil Sangam Classics, Kalidasa’s Harivamsa and in Kalhana’s Raja Tharangini, among other texts belonging to other Regional languages of India.

    I am providing a sample list and a link to my article on the Vedic Tribes of India.

    https://ramanisblog.in/2015/06/19/tamils-vedic-tribes-yadus-turvasas-rig-veda/

    I have found some curious facts.

    1. Sage Vasshista though listed as the Royal Priest of the Ikshvaku, the Solar Dynasty to which Lord Rama belongs to i mentioned prominently during the period of Dasaratha and Rama and briefly during the period of Ikshvaku when he founded the Dynasty’ Vashista does not find a detailed mention from the period of Ikshvaku and Dasaratha.

    The reference to Vashista along with Ikshvaku is found in the Bhagavatha Purana where it is mentioned that Ikshvaku left the Dravida Desa, South of Vindhya mountains for Ayodhya from where he founded his dynasty.

    He left for Ayodhya because of a Tsunami referred to in detail by the Puranas and Tamil classics.

    The great Flood is mentioned in all ancient texts both religious and non religious.

    Other than these  references  Vashista is missing in the texts.

    Next we hear of him as having accompanied Shiva  to compose the Rig Veda in the Arctic.

    2.We find Sage Agastya moving over to South on two occasions, one at the time of Shiva Uma wedding and again to lead 71 Families out of Dwaraka when Tsunami struck after the Mahabharata War to the south of Vindhyas,

    Please check my articles on this and Agastya’s date has been validated by Star Canopus.

    3.Parashurama settled families in the south from the north.

    Manu left for the north from the South, which means that there has been a civilization before he left.

    There are references  in the Sumerian Kings List to Dasaratha, Rama and Bharatha s Kings of Sumeria.

    Sumerian texts also mention that Rama aligned with  Horus, son of Osiris.

    Rama Atlantis War Kavatam periplus Port Window of Lemuria

    As explained in these articles, there seems to have been Four major civilizations then.

    Rama’s Empire,

    Atlantis Empire,

    Uighur Empire and

    Lemurian Empire.

    Of these Uighur was not very advanced and Lemuria which had been on the wane was trying to recoup.

    They were suppressed by the Atlantis people.

    In the Atlantis, Osiris’ son Horus entered into an alliance with Rama to defeat Seth who was trying to become independent in the Sumerian valley.’

    Ramas war against Atlantis

    So there was a civilization in south before Manu left for Ayodhya from the Dravida Desa.

    Then Viswamitra reference is found in the Ramayana and other Indian texts and also the life of Nala and Damayanti and these three ante date Rama.

    Rama’s ancestor Sibi fought against the Dravida tribes and built a temple for Vishnu  at Thiruvellarai, near SriRangam in Tamil Nadu and this temple is older than Srirangam.

    Then there is a detailed  description of the battle between Viswamitra and Vasishta when the former tried to take away the Cow Nandini from Vashista.

    The concept of taking away the Cattle is a common to both the Tamil  and Vedic Culture.

    In Virata parva of Mahabharata, Duryodhana tries to take away the cattle from Virata and the Pandavas fought against him along with Virata.

    The tribes that aligned with Vashista against Viswamitra are,

    ‘Mahabharata links the origin of Dravidas with sage Vasistha. Viswamitra, a king in the Ikshwaku clan, attacked the cow of Vasistha. Then many armies emerged for the protection of that cow and they attacked the armies of Viswamitra. Cow symbolizes land, in ancient Indian scriptures. Thus this war was fought with the tribes allied with Vasista for their own land. Other tribes that were mentioned along with the Dravidas in this incident were Sakas, Yavanas, Savaras, Kanchis, Paundras and Kiratas, Yavanas and Sinhalas, and the barbarous tribes of Khasas, Chivukas, Pulindas, Chinas and Hunas with Keralas, and numerous other Mlechchhas. (1,177)…

    The Indus Valley civilisation (2,600-1,900 BCE) located both in Pakistan and India is often identified as having been Dravidian. Cultural and linguistic similarities have been cited by researchers Henry Heras, Kamil Zvelebil, Asko Parpola and Iravatham Mahadevan as being strong evidence for a proto-Dravidian origin of the ancient Indus Valley civilisation.[The discovery in Tamil Nadu of a late Neolithic (early 2nd millennium BCE, i.e. post-dating Harappan decline) stone celt allegedly marked with Indus signs has been considered by some to be significant for the Dravidian identification.

    Yuri Knorozov surmised that the symbols represent a logosyllabic script and suggested, based on computer analysis, an underlying agglutinative Dravidian language as the most likely candidate for the underlying language. Knorozov’s suggestion was preceded by the work of Henry Heras, who suggested several readings of signs based on a proto-Dravidian assumption.

    Linguist Asko Parpola writes that the Indus script and Harappan language are “most likely to have belonged to the Dravidian family”.Parpola led a Finnish team in investigating the inscriptions using computer analysis. Based on a proto-Dravidian assumption, they proposed readings of many signs, some agreeing with the suggested readings of Heras and Knorozov (such as equating the “fish” sign with the Dravidian word for fish, “min”) but disagreeing on several other readings. A comprehensive description of Parpola’s work until 1994 is given in his book Deciphering the Indus Script’

    I Postulate that,

    There was a Dravida Civilization in the South before or started with Manu in the south of Vindhyas,

    The tribes of Dravidas were left behind by Manu when he left for Ayodhya,

    Sage Vasista stayed in the South,

    Later when Viswamitra banished his sons to the south, Dravida civilization was in existence during the Ramayana period,

    Dravidians were called as Dasyus because of their way of Life was different from Sanatana Dharam though they followed the Sanatana Dharma.

    These Dravidian tribes included the ancestors of Greeks, other European tribes, Chinese and Huns.

    I have written on the presence of  lord Shiva in the south much earlier to vedic period.

    I shall explore further and write on the location and dispersal and seeming acrimony with the vedic people, the reasons and Shiva’s Travels throughout the world,

    References and citations.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dravida_Kingdom#Dravida_listed_in_the_ancient_Indian_.28Bharata_Varsha.29_Kingdoms

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dravidian_people#Ancestral_components

    Manu Dravida

    Pasupathy Seal Image credit.

    By unknown Indus Valley Civilization sealmaker from Mohenjodaro archaeological site – http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00routesdata/bce_500back/indusvalley/protoshiva/protoshiva.jpg, Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=9325528