Tag: Christian

  • Open letter to Church from Anonymous?

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    We can not brush this aside though it is anonymous.

    Most of the facts…

    1. proselytism
    2. bigotry,
    3. interference with State
    4. treating other religions as Dirt
    5. keeping quiet on Human Rights Violations except when Christians are involved.
    6. phony miracles to encourage conversions
    7. stating it has no divisions in Christianity, yet there are number of versions and all people are not treated equally(among christians in India.
    8. silent spectator during Holocaust, are true
    9. Time Christianity corrected itself and followed Christ.

     

    Story:

    We, the collective super-consciousness known as ANONYMOUS – the Voice of Free Speech & the Advocate of the People – have long heard you issue your venomous statements of hatred, and we have witnessed your flagrant and absurd displays of inimitable bigotry and intolerant fanaticism. We have always regarded you and your ilk as an assembly of graceless sociopaths and maniacal chauvinists & religious zealots, however benign, who act out for the sake of attention & in the name of religion.
    Being such aggressive proponents for the Freedom of Speech & Freedom of Information as we are, we have hitherto allowed you to continue preaching your benighted gospel of hatred and your theatrical exhibitions of, not only your fascist views, but your utter lack of Christ-like attributes. You have condemned the men and women who serve, fight, and perish in the armed forces of your nation; you have prayed for and celebrated the deaths of young children, who are without fault; you have stood outside the United States National Holocaust Museum, condemning the men, women, and children who, despite their innocence, were annihilated by a tyrannical embodiment of fascism and unsubstantiated repugnance. Rather than allowing the deceased some degree of peace and respect, you instead choose to torment, harass, and assault those who grieve.
    Your demonstrations and your unrelenting cascade of disparaging slurs, unfounded judgments, and prejudicial innuendos, which apparently apply to every individual numbered amongst the race of Man – except for yourselves – has frequently crossed the line which separates Freedom of Speech from deliberately utilizing the same tactics and methods of intimidation and mental & emotional abuse that have been previously exploited and employed by tyrants and dictators, fascists and terrorist organizations throughout history.

    ANONYMOUS cannot abide this behavior any longer. The time for us to be idle spectators in your inhumane treatment of fellow Man has reached its apex, and we shall now be moved to action. Thus, we give you a warning: Cease & desist your protest campaign in the year 2011, return to your homes in Kansas, & close your public Web sites.
    Should you ignore this warning, you will meet with the vicious retaliatory arm of ANONYMOUS: We will target your public Websites, and the propaganda & detestable doctrine that you promote will be eradicated; the damage incurred will be irreversible, and neither your institution nor your congregation will ever be able to fully recover. It is in your best interest to comply now, while the option to do so is still being offered, because we will not relent until you cease the conduction & promotion of all your bigoted operations & doctrines.

    The warning has been given. What happens from here shall be determined by you.

    WE ARE ANONYMOUS.
    WE ARE LEGION.
    WE DO NOT FORGIVE.
    WE DO NOT FORGET.
    EXPECT US.

    http://current.com/news/93001256_anonymous-open-letter-to-westboro-baptist-church.htm

  • Christianity does not Convert.

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    If CBI were not to name any group or individual, you would again dub it a traud?

    If enquiries by police are to be questioned because its findings are not to your liking,then please tell the Government that you want such and such individual/organisation is to be  punished.

    You would save a lot of time and money for the Government.

    Yes, Christianity does not proselytize right from St.Thomas.

    It does not encourage people to convert.

    It does  social service to tribes urging them to remain in Hinduism./Islam.

    Funds do not flow to Churches from abroad.

    ( read my blog on Missionaries fund to India).

    Indian Media is not controlled by Christian organizations( read my blog Media-who owns it in India?)

    US does not encourage conversions.( read my blog US pressured Egypt on conversionsWikiLeaks)

    Pope does not set target for conversions nor calls a decade as a Decade of Harvest( Asia).

    Story:

    Nearly a week after the Justice Somasekhara Commission of Inquiry submitted its report on attacks on churches in Karnataka, representatives of the Christian community demanded the state government reject the report and hand over the inquiry to the CBI.

    “We, the entire Christian community, unanimously reject this commission’s report totally since it has failed to address its terms of reference and caused injustice to the community,” Rev Bernard Moras, Archbishop of Bangalore, and president, Karnataka Region Catholic Bishop’s Council, told reporters here on Saturday.

    Pointing out that it was only during the past three years that the state had seen a high number of attacks on churches and its personnel, the archbishop said the final report absolves persons and organizations responsible for the attacks as mentioned in its interim report. “Though the commission found some attacks to be deliberate, well-planned, communal, with fundamentalism brewing since several years, it failed to identify people or groups behind them,” he added.

    Condemning the report’s recommendation that Christian places of worship be brought under some legislation to check conversion, Rev. Moras said: “It creates an impression that churches are anti-social institutions. Despite being a mere 2.1% of the population, Christians were accused of mass conversion”

    Rubbishing reports about New Life, a Christian denomination reportedly publishing derogatory literature about other religions, Moras said: “If some individual is involved in it, why don’t you identify him instead of generalising?”

    Objecting to the commission’s finding on foreign funds, the bishop of Church of South India Rev. Vasanth  Kumar said: “All funds coming from foreign countries are closely monitored by the Union home ministry.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Archbishop-slams-probe-report/articleshow/7434129.cms

    Related:

    The second part of Washington’s “battle cry” is from a Christian convert from Islam he heard on the radio expressing this sentiment: “America must use its military to go to every Muslim nation in the world and convert them to Christianity; it is the only way to end the Muslim jihad against the West, against Christianity and against civilization.”

    Washington also wants to combine “Coulter’s battle cry together with the Newtonian principle that to every action there is always an equal and opposite reaction” and send the U.S. military on “an international comprehensive Christian conversion campaign.” “A conversion policy will obviate the need for perpetual nation building,” he says.

    But Washington does Coulter one better: “My one revision of Coulter is not that we should invade their countries: ‘We must invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.’” He wants the U.S. military to “join Christ’s battle cry” and honor the Marine Corps hymn.

    Washington’s comments are so ludicrous and so contrary to sound Christian doctrine that every armchair Christian warrior, Christian Coalition moralist, Religious Right warvangelical, Reich-wing Christian nationalist, theocon Values Voter, Red-State Christian fascist, and God and country Christian bumpkin that I have ever criticized for supporting the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan should be ashamed and embarrassed at his comments.

    Washington’s mention of America’s conflict with the Barbary Pirates over two hundred years ago – as if it has anything to do with the current “war on terror” – is ludicrous. But because other apologists for the “war on terror” have also brought it up, I will address that subject in a future article.

    It’s not often that I am rendered speechless. I have but seven brief comments to make.

    One, how can WorldNetDaily continue to publish Washington?

    Two, the attacks of 9/11 were political acts that were not undertaken because of our freedoms, way of life, culture, or religion. The reason why any Muslims hate us or are trying to kill us is because of our wretched foreign policy and occupation of their countries.

    Three, the aberrant Christianity advocated by Washington will turn away multitudes of unbelievers from real Christianity.

    Four, the U.S. military is not God’s army. The Lord never sanctioned any crusade of Christians against any religion. The God of the Bible never called, commanded, or encouraged any Christian to kill, make apologies for the killing of, or excuse the killing of any adherent to a false religion.

    Five, what kind of genuine conversion to Christianity can be obtained at the point of a gun?

    Six, what Washington proposes – forced conversion – is something Muslims have been criticized for. How can he advocate that U.S. soldiers – many of whom are not even Christians – “convert” our “enemies” to Christianity?

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance227.html

     

  • 5 Ridiculous Things You Probably Believe About Islam.(?)

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    Some facts and explanations seem to be contrived.

    Story:

    If You’re a Muslim Woman, You Have to Wear the Veil

    For instance, in France they have about 3 million Muslim women. French police decided to figure out how many of them wore burqas and/or niqabs and found the number to be … 367.

    Not 367,000, but 367, a number so small that from a statistical point of view, it’s barely enough to register as a margin of error. As for the rest of Europe, the numbers are even more disastrous for the burqa business (for instance, Belgium has 500,000 Muslims, a couple dozen wear the burqa).

    Yes, there are Middle Eastern countries where the veils are required by law (namely Iran and Saudi Arabia) and combined those countries have less than 5 percent of the world’s Muslims. There are actually more Muslim countries that outright ban the wearing of the veils than there are that require them. They can do that because wearing a veil is not required in Islam but is more of a custom, depending on where you live and who’s in charge.

    Our Founding Fathers Would Never Have Tolerated This Muslim Nonsense!

    Even if they were staunch Christians (or deists, whatever), plenty of the Founding Fathers had a healthy admiration for the Muslim faith. Thomas Jefferson, for example, taught himself Arabic using his own copy of the Quran and hosted the first White House Iftar during Ramadan.


    Jefferson believed in celebrating the deliciousness of all world religions.

    John Adams hailed the Islamic prophet Muhammad as one of the great “inquirers after truth.Benjamin Rush, who was so Christian he wanted a Bible in every school, also said he would rather see the opinions of Confucius or Mohammad “inculcated upon our youth” than see them grow deprived “of a system of religious principles.” Benjamin Franklin once declared: “Even if the Mufti of Constantinople were to send a missionary to preach Mohammedanism to us, he would find a pulpit at his service.” Even George fucking Washington personally welcomed Muslims to come work for him at Mount Vernon.

    Another possible translation.

    #3.
    “Muslim” Equals “Arab

    Remember that crazy lady with the Einstein hair who asked John McCain if Barack Obama was an Arab? No? Well, let us refresh your memory:


    The instant John McCain realized that he would never, ever be president.

    We’re willing to bet there’s more than a 20 percent chance this woman meant to say “Muslim” but accidentally said “Arab” because same thing, right? And even if you’re not in the tea party camp, where you’re convinced “Arab” and “Muslim” are interchangeable, you’ve probably operated under a similar assumption: that non-Jewish Middle Eastern people are Muslim and that most Muslims live in the Middle East.

    But actually…

    Only about 20 percent of the entire world’s Muslim population is Arab or North African. For comparison, about 22 percent of the global Christian population is African, yet when somebody says “Christian,” you don’t immediately picture a dude from Africa. Equating “Muslim” with “Arab” makes just as much sense.


    That’d be like associating “Kansas” with “hate-filled douchebags”.

    While we in the West have been conditioned to associate Islam with the Middle East, a whopping 61.9 percent of all Muslims — aka a supermajority — don’t live in the Middle East at all; most Muslims live in the Asia-Pacific region. Indonesia alone is home to more than 200 million Muslims, and the Indian subcontinent has roughly a half-billion Muslims.

    It works the other way, too. For example, if you think being Arab guarantees you being Muslim these days, well, we are sorry to disappoint. As much as 10 percent of the world’s Arab population is Christian (that’s more than 14 million people). That means there are 1 million more Arab Christians than, oh, we don’t know … the world’s entire Jewish population..

    #2.
    Western Cultures Are Far More Humane Than the Bloodthirsty Muslims

    Even before the whole terrorism thing, Islam had a reputation in the West for violence. Part of it has to do with how abruptly Islam was all up in everyone’s face. For instance, while Hinduism took about 1,000 years to spread through India, and Christianity took about 400 years to go from persecuted cult to the state religion of the Roman Empire, Islam went from one guy’s epiphany to the dominant political and religious force in the Middle East and North Africa in about 100 years.

    So a lot of people have reached the conclusion that the religion spread like holy wildfire for one reason: the sword. The next logical leap from this viewpoint is that as a people, Muslims must be violent and barbaric conquerors. Even before 9/11, you saw this portrayal in popular culture all the time:

    But actually…

    Muhammad laid out some pretty progressive rules of warfare, and medieval Muslims out-niced the Christians in battle by a landslide. Especially since Muhammad personally issued “a distinct code of conduct among Islamic warriors” that included:

    • No killing of women, children or innocents — these might include hermits, monks or other religious leaders who were deemed noncombatants;
    • No wanton killing of livestock or other animals;
    • No burning or destruction of trees and orchards; and
    • No destruction of wells.


    And no kicking with cleats on, Jeremy.

    In short, Muhammad wanted his armies to fight like freaking hippies. During the fucking Dark Ages. And they did.

    But the biggest territorial gains were made after Muhammad’s death, right? Maybe that was when Islam earned its bloodthirsty reputation? Not exactly. His successor codified the existing rules and made them the standard for his army. Which probably explains why the Muslim army conquering Europe “exhibited a degree of toleration which puts many Christian nations to shame,” in the words of one expert.


    Plus, they built all sorts of nifty buildings.

    So while Christian crusaders were beheading enemies and tossing their heads like oversized hacky sacks, their Muslim counterparts had a whole honor code that led them to feed the armies of their defeated enemies.

    #1.
    Islam Is Stuck in the Dark Ages

    There are really three big negative stereotypes about Islam — that it hates women, that it’s violent and that it hates any kind of scientific progress. We’ve covered the first two already, but how can you argue against the third? Their governments are based on ancient religious texts! And what diseases has Iran cured?


    You guys could at least take out herpes or something.

    But actually…

    In the same way that not all Christians are Young Earth Creationists, plenty of modern Muslims see room for interpretation in the Quran. In fact, 45 percent of American Muslims in one poll said they see evolution as “the best explanation for the origin of human life on Earth,” which isn’t so shabby, considering only 24 percent of evangelical Christians believed the same. The percentage of Muslims embracing the scientific explanation for the origin of life was about the same as Americans as a whole (48 percent).


    If they only knew how to communicate their views like we do …

    And historically, they have a hell of a track record. Science and math as we know it wouldn’t even exist without Islam. The Islamic Golden Age caused a revolution in virtually every field of human thought, during which they fucking invented algebra — and advanced everything from geography and exploration to the arts, architecture, philosophy, urban development, medicine and health.

    The Muslims actually came pretty damn close to sharing all this brilliance with the truly ass-backward kingdoms of Christian Europe, since the Islamic caliphates blanketed every country they conquered with schools, libraries, public works and the most comprehensive system of social welfare on the planet. In fact, the case has been made that if the caliphates succeeded in conquering all of Europe an Italian Renaissance would have been unnecessary.


    It would have saved us all a lot of dong-staring, too.

    So, there’s that.

     

     

  • Six trends of American Church and reasons thereof.

     

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    With the advent of the world emerging as one, people are exposed to other cultures easily and are able to understand, interact with those cultures more freely and hence are able to find the answer to some problems in those cultures/religions more satisfactory and less dogmatic.
    For instance when people are exposed to Non dualism and at the same time polytheism and find that both can coexist in one system they lean towards it:it is surprising to them atheism is also considered a part of religious thought in Hinduism.Dogmatic inflexibility by the Church takes a beating.on this score.
    The more the lay man becomes literate in Christianity with out Dogmatic interpretations, which are subjective, he/ she questions Christianity.Without answering them satisfactorily the Church insists on blind following of the clergy which literate Christians abhor.. Unfortunately while the populace is becoming literate, the Church is mired in traditional interpretations with a siege mentality.
    Yes, the moral absolutes have ceased to an effective force because of materialism and lack of application by the Church to carry the message of Christ to people correctly.
    Those who are supposed to set examples of virtue and good moral behavior have been found to moral debauchees ..Yes, this existed even before.But now with advent of internet and swift communications, the peccadilloes draw immediate attention.People will judge a religion by the behavior of the followers more than by books they preach.Christ’s life is His message.

    Regrettably the Church is being run as a MNC and not a creed propagated by a Simple Soul who preached Love and High thinking.
    The out reach of Christianity-The statement is true.Like olden times Christianity believes and performs conversions with more vigour than before , allocating budget for conversions when it is not warranted. Now that the society has changed and people are literate they have choice in analyzing and accepting new thoughts which are more rational and acceptable and they find other Religions like Hinduism is intensely personal and not institutionalist..This is abhorrent a freethinking Christian.
    True, the Americans look for practical solutions for day-to-day life; they are in abundance in the Bible.It is not being  propagated properly to people.

    Non provision of complete information is Church’s mistake.
    Unless the Church spreads the true message of Christ, sans conversion, dogmas, Christianity shall undergo travails till such time a true preacher comes along.
    Again social action is discharged more by individuals/community rather than by the Church which is trapped in administration and pomps of office, grandeur and mega budgets which does not reach for whom it is intended for but mainly to charlatans.

    1. The Christian Church is becoming less theologically literate.
    2. Christians are becoming more ingrown and less outreach-oriented.
    3. Growing numbers of people are less interested in spiritual principles and more desirous of learning pragmatic solutions for life.
    4. Among Christians, interest in participating in community action is escalating.
    5. The postmodern insistence on tolerance is winning over the Christian Church.
    6. The influence of Christianity on culture and individual lives is largely invisible.

    Here are a couple of observations from the study (that are troubling if they are indeed accurate):

    Our biblical illiteracy and lack of spiritual confidence has caused Americans to avoid making discerning choices for fear of being labeled judgmental. The result is a Church that has become tolerant of a vast array of morally and spiritually dubious behaviors and philosophies. This increased leniency is made possible by the very limited accountability that occurs within the body of Christ. There are fewer and fewer issues that Christians believe churches should be dogmatic about. The idea of love has been redefined to mean the absence of conflict and confrontation, as if there are no moral absolutes that are worth fighting for. That may not be surprising in a Church in which a minority believes there are moral absolutes dictated by the scriptures.

    Practical to a fault, Americans consider survival in the present to be much more significant than eternal security and spiritual possibilities. Because we continue to separate our spirituality from other dimensions of life through compartmentalization, a relatively superficial approach to faith has become a central means of optimizing our life experience.

    American culture is driven by the snap judgments and decisions that people make amidst busy schedules and incomplete information. With little time or energy available for or devoted to research and reflection, it is people’s observations of the integration of a believer’s faith into how he/she responds to life’s opportunities and challenges that most substantially shape people’s impressions of and interest in Christianity.

    If this is all true, then we really need to pray for the American church. Gimmicks won’t fix this; only God can.

    HT: Reformation and Reformed Anglicanism

    http://gairneybridge.wordpress.com/2010/12/23/six-trends-of-the-american-church/#comment-800

     

  • Go to Hell? Is that what Christianity is all about?

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    Religion is highly personal.It is not to be institutionalized.

    Unfortunately,Islam ,Christianity,Judaism, Paganism had all been institutionalized-Islam got entangled with tribal and clan interests,Christianity with Paganism and Judaism and Judaism with the obsession of ‘Chosen people‘.They believe in number games.

    People forget God,if He exists, does not care in numbers, just as Nature does not care about our perceptions of it.People who make a living out of religion do.

    Religion is meant to elevate the individual by stimulating the enquiry ‘Who am I?’ and to find out the inner meaning of life.

    Recently in US a church has banned the use of Yoga’for it has the potential to wean away the Christian faith‘.Is  the faith so fragile that can be weaned away from?If so it is no faith.

    Religion is for people and not the other way around.

    Instead of enlightening the individual. Religion has become a despicable tool of social control and intolerance.

    Hinduism, on the other hand encourages all criticisms, including its own fundamentals , never questions your way of living and does not doom you to hell if you do not believe its Percepts.In fact it does not advocate group praying.

    What is the point in making children hate at a very tender age, when they do not know what hate is?

    Story:

    Raised to Hate: Kids of Westboro Baptist Church

    Kid of Westboro Church says “gays, fags, hundreds … of Jews” bound for hell.
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