Chennai Madras Founded Before Mahabharata?

True History of India, when one unravels it from the lies labelled as History of India by outsiders, is amazing and at times shocking.

I had written about the lies on India being a superstitious and barbaric country ,Hinduism just 5000 years old Tamil being dated around 3000 BC, Alexander defeating Porus……

I have also written extensively about the spread of Sanatana Dharma through out the world, with verified sources from Archaeology,Astronomy, History, apart from verifying artifacts by Carbon and Infrared dating, and with the help of tectonic movements of the earth’s plates.

I am struck by one thought.

Though there is evidence from the puranas that the Dravida desa, located in the south of the Vindhyas, rulers from The Chera, Chola ,Pandya and the ancestors of the Rashtrakootas were in constant touch with the rulers in  the North of India, hardly  a few major places/cities have found references in modern history.

That is the major cities of India in south, Madras, now called Chennai, Bangalore(now called Bengaluru, Hyderabad, Cochin/Thiruvanathapuram do not seem to have as much ancient history as that of, say, Madurai,Musiri,Bhadrachalam!

While lesser known cities of today, which were prominent during early ages, are dated and referenced back to Purana and Ithihasa periods, hisory of important modern cities like Bangalore , Madras are not traced back to such lengths of time.
While Madras history’ as quoted in this post towards its closing’, stops with Pallavas and vague references to the Cholas, Bangalore has clear references upto Nayakas kingdom.
This despite an Tamil site being found, it dates back to Million years-read my post on this,in Pallavaram, a suburb of Madras and a 7500 year old Shiva temple in Bangalore!( check my article on this).
How come there is such a gap in the history of these cities?
Records do not show that they were destroyed during this period.
In the case of Madras, while references abound in Tamil literature, supported by archaeological finds that a Chera king fed both the Pandava and Kaurava armies during the Mahabharata war, Vasudeva Krishna married a Pandyan princess,killed a Pandyan king, he had a dauther througj her and he had her married to a Pandyan Prince and gave away 100 Yadava family as A Dowry during her marriage;Balarama met Parashurama in Kerala and woshiped Subrahmanya in Tamil Nadu;Arjuna married a Pandyan princess;
Sahadeva and Arjuna came on pilgrimage to the south;
Tamil Kings were invited to the Swayamvara of Damayanti, which anti dates even Ramayana;
These kings were present in the Swayamvara of Sita and Draupadi.
So references to these kings and the lands they ruled over is proven with historical finds and references in literature.
But the cities , Bangalore and Madras, can not be dated beyond , say about 7 to 800 years.
If these cities have artifacts /sitesdating back to 7000 yeras in the case of Bangalore and a million years in the case of Madras, it is reasonable to conclude,with no records of these cities having been destroyed,that history has been lost in respect of these cities.
A little digging reveals astounding fact in the case of Madras.
The etymology of the term Madras looks unconvincing.
This name dates back only to a few hundred years.
But Drona Parva mentions Rukmartha as to be from Madras.
The region is marked as being in Sind/ Punjab and Madri the second wife of Pandu of Kuru Dynasty and mother of Nakula and Sahadeva beling to this area.
But the migration of the Madri Tribe to the south is mentioned.
The reference to Kankas , Kiratas ,Andhras ,Chunchus
evoke interest.
Kankas might refer to the ancestors of Ganga Dynasty,
Andhras to the people in to days Andra Pradesh and also Chunchus refer to a tribe of Andhra who exist even today. The name Chunchulakshmi is common in Andhra.
Kiratas,hunters refer to Kerala and Nishadas also refer to them.
‘ The Yavanas, the Kiratas, the Gandharvas, the Chinas, the Savaras, the Barbaras, the Sakas, the Tusharas, the Kankas, the Pathavas, the Andhras, the Madrakas, thePaundras, the Pulindas, the Ramathas, the Kamvojas were mentioned together as tribes beyond the kingdoms of Aryavarta. The Aryavarta-kings had doubts on dealing with them. (12,64)
There is a statement that Krishna brought elephants from Madra.
Punjab/Sind does/ did not have elephants.

‘ elephants were mentioned as brought from the country of Madra by Vasudeva Krishna. These were given as present to the Pandavas on the occasion of their marriage with Draupadi (1,201). It is not clear how elephant could naturally exist in Madra (Punjab province of Pakistan). However a training center to make them war-elephants could exist there’

They were brought to North from Kerala from Vedic Times.
This is recorded in the Vedas and puranas.
It is probable that a group of Madra tribe migrated to South and settled in a place and it was named Madras later.
It is worth noting here that Sage Agastya brought Yadava tribes to Karnataka and the Tamil Nadu when Dwaraka sank.
The Tamil kings Velirs beling to this tribe.
And The Yadavas settled in the present Karnataka.
Please read my posts on these.




Stone age implements have been found near Pallavaram in Chennai. According to the Archaeological Survey of India (ASI), Pallavaram was a megalithic cultural establishment, and pre-historic communities resided in the settlement.

The region around Chennai has served as an important administrative, military, and economic centre for many centuries. During 1st century CE, a poet and weaver named Thiruvalluvar lived in the town of Mylapore (a neighbourhood of present Chennai). From the 1st–12th century the region of present Tamil Nadu and parts of South India was ruled by the Cholas.

The Pallavas of Kanchi built the areas of Mahabalipuram and Pallavaram during the reign ofMahendravarman . They also defeated several kingdoms including the Cheras, Cholas and Pandyas who ruled over the area before their arrival. Sculpted caves and paintings have been identified from that period. Ancient coins dating to around 500 BC have also been unearthed from the city and its surrounding areas. A portion of these findings belonged to the Vijayanagara Empire, which ruled the region during the medieval period.

The Portuguese first arrived in 1522 and built a port called São Tomé after the Christian apostle, St. Thomas, who is believed to have preached in the area between 52 and 70 CE. In 1612, the Dutch established themselves near Pulicat, north of Chennai.

On 22 August 1639, which is referred to as Madras Day, the English East India Company under Francis Day bought a small strip of land stretching 3 miles on the Coromandel Coast. They got a license to build a fort and a castle in the contracted region. The ruler Damarla Chennappa Nayakudu, the Nayaka of Chandragiri, granted the English permission to build a factory and warehouse for their trading enterprises. The region was then primarily a fishing village known as “Madraspatnam”.A year later, the English built Fort St. George, the first major English settlement in India, which became the nucleus of the growing colonial city and urban Chennai, grew around this Fort.Post independence the fort housed the Tamil Nadu Assembly until the new Secretariat building was opened in 2010, but shortly afterwards it was again moved back to Fort St. George, due to a change in the Government.

In 1746, Fort St. George and Madras were captured by the French under General La Bourdonnais, the Governor of Mauritius, who plundered the town and its outlying villages.’

Madra Kingdom was a kingdom grouped among the western kingdoms in the epic Mahabharata. Its capital was Sagala, modern Sialkot (in the Punjab province of Pakistan). TheKuru king Pandu’s second wife was from Madra kingdom and was called Madri. The Pandava twins, Nakula and Sahadeva, were her sons. Madri’s brother Shalya was the king of Madra. Though affectionate to the Pandavas, he was tricked to give support to Duryodhana and fought against the Pandavas during the Kurukshetra War. He was killed by Yudhishthira, the eldest Pandava. Other than the Madra kingdom (Eastern Madra or Purva Madra) with Sagala as its capital, it is believed that there was a Western Madra (Apara Madra) and a Northern Madra (Uttara Madra).


The Yavanas, the Kiratas, the Gandharvas, the Chinas, the Savaras, the Barbaras, the Sakas, the Tusharas, the Kankas, the Pathavas, the Andhras, the Madrakas, thePaundras, the Pulindas, the Ramathas, the Kamvojas were mentioned together as tribes beyond the kingdoms of Aryavarta. The Aryavarta-kings had doubts on dealing with them. (12,64)

The Andrakas, Guhas, Pulindas, Savaras, Chuchukas, Madrakas, the Yamas, Kamvojas, Gandharas, Kiratas and Barbaras were mentioned as unknown tribes. In the Krita age, they were nowhere on earth (meaning Ancient India). It is from the Treta age that they have had their origin and began to multiply. When the terrible period came, joining Treta and the Dwapara, the Kshatriyas, approaching one another, engaged themselves in battle (12,206).

The Madra tribe and Salwa tribe had a common origin as hinted by a myth at (1,121). Here the origin of these two tribes were attributed to a king in the race of Puru, known by the name of Vyushitaswa. His wife was Bhadra, the daughter of Kakshivat (Kakshivat was the son of Gautama-Dirghatamas, begotten upon the servant-maid of the queen of a king named Vali who ruled in the outskirts of Magadha. (See also Anga and Magadha). Seven sons were born to Bhadra, after the death of Vyushitaswa. Later they all became kings. Three of them became the three kings of Salwa and four of them became the four kings of Madra.

King Aswapati[

Aswapati was the father of Savitri the famous princess of Madra, who became the lover (and later, wife) of the famous Salwa prince Satyavan. Aswapati’s wife was from a minor tribe known as Malava. She was known as Malavi (3,291). The sons of Aswapati and Malavi, later became the powerful Malava kings. They spread their kingdom as far as Avanti(Ujjain, Madhya Pradesh). Thus the royal line of Malavas originated from the Madra (Punjab province of Pakistan) king Aswapati (3,297).

  • Madrabhujingas were mentioned as a kingdom of ancient India (Bharata Varsha) (6,9)
  • Karna is mentioned as subjugating the Madras, along with the Gandharas, the Matsyas, the Trigartas, the Tanganas, the Khasas, the Pancalas, the Videhas, the Kulindas, the Kasi-kosalas, the Suhmas, the Angas, the Nishadhas, the Pundras, the Kichakas, the Vatsas, the Kalingas, the Taralas, the Asmakas, and the Rishikas (8,8)
  • Trained elephants were mentioned as brought from the country of Madra by Vasudeva Krishna. These were given as present to the Pandavas on the occasion of their marriage with Draupadi (1,201). It is not clear how elephant could naturally exist in Madra (Punjab province of Pakistan). However a training center to make them war-elephants could exist there.
  • From the Nishadas sprang up the Madranabha caste whose members are seen to ride on cars drawn by asses. (13,48).
  • Madra kings were equated to a clan of Asuras called Krodhaveshas.


‘Sanjaya said, ‘Engaged in taking the lives of brave warriors, Arjuna’s son then resembled the Destroyer himself, when the latter takes the lives of all creatures on the arrival of the Universal Dissolution. Possessed of prowess resembling that of Sakra himself, the mighty son of Sakra’s son, viz., Abhimanyu, agitating the Katirava army looked exceedingly resplendent. Penetrating into the Katirava host, O king, that destroyer of foremost Kshatriyas resembling Yama himself, seized Satvasravas, like an infuriated tiger seizing a deer. Beholding Satyasrayas, seized by him, many mighty car-warriors, taking up diverse kinds of weapons, rushed upon him. Indeed, those bulls among Kshatriyas, from a spirit of rivalry, rushed at the son of Arjuna from desire of slaying him, all exclaiming, ‘I shall go first, I shall go first!’ As a whale in the sea obtaining a shoal of small fish seizes them with the greatest ease, even so did Abhimanyu receive that whole division of the rushing Kshatriyas. Like rivers that never go back when they approach the sea, none amongst those unretreating Kshatriyas turned back when they approached Abhimanyu. That army then reeled like a boat tossed on the ocean when overtaken by a mighty tempest, (with its crew) afflicted with panic caused by the violence of the wind .

Then the mighty Rukmaratha, son of the ruler of the Madras, for assuring the frightened troops, fearlessly said, ‘Ye heroes, ye need not fear! When I am here, what is Abhimanyu?

Without doubt, I will seize this one a living captive’. Having said these words, the valiant prince, borne on his beautiful and well-equipped car, rushed at Abhimanyu. Piercing Abhimanyu with three shafts in the chest, three in the right arm, and three other sharp shafts in the left arm, he uttered a loud roar. Phalguni’s son, however, cutting off his bow, his right and left arms, and his head adorned with beautiful eyes and eye-brows quickly felled them on the earth. Beholding Rukmaratha, the honoured son of Salya, slain by the illustrious son of Subhadra, that Rukmaratha viz., who had vowed to consume his foe or take him alive, many princely.( Mahabharata  SECTION XLIII) )







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