If you cannot do anything to Eelam Tamils – just shut your bloody mouth and Let DMK leader can do it. Even at this age he has to depend on Indian PM to comfort Tamils abroad. The atrocities by the Sri Lankan force wouldnt have happened if Tamil Nadu is a separate Country as asked by our beloved leaders Periyar and Anna. Cauvery water issue prevailed for more than 90 years and only due to Kalainger and V,PSingh the Supreme Court ordered an interim order to supply 205 TMC to Tamil Nadu. The Karnataka never obeyed the SCs order and Jaya never insisted on it(because she came from Mysore to TN in search of food and shelter)
My Reply.
Kaunanidhi need not depend on The central Government.
It is the Central Government which depends on Karunanidhi.
Have people forgotten the Statement by the DMK leaders, especially by Durai Murugan that Gopalapuram runs India?
If Karunanidhi wanted to pressurize the Government he could have pulled out of the Government.
He threatened to pull out when selected Ministries were not given to his children and nephew.
He threatened to resign when Kanimozhi was interrogated.
Why did he not ask his Ministers to pull out of the cabinet over The Tamils issue?
Now coming to the TESO Meteet. Karunanidhi first said that the meet is to discuss the problem of Eelam Tamils.
But after p.Chidambaram met him at his residence , the next morning Karunnidhi comes out with a clarification that No resolution Tamil Elam will not be passed or Tamil Eelam will be discussed at the Meet.
Now on 2 August he has written in Murasoli, the official Organ of the DMK that the Meet is to discuss the action to be taken to counter the aggressive designs of China in our Borders!
How many tome has he condemned the Rajapakshe Government really?
How is it that his daughter Kanimozhi visited Si Lanka, met with Rajapakshe, accepted his gifts and posed for the photograph with him?
Karunanidhi will write a number of letters on Tamils , but New Delhi visit is reserved to beg Sonia Gandhi to provide Cabinet berths to Kanimozhi,Azhagiri.
On Cauvery Water.
Who withdrew the case against the Karnataka Government in The Supreme court?
As for as Karunanidhi is concerned Cauvery Water issue is solved for he had the Assembly pass a resolution thanking him for solving the Cauvery Water Dispute.
If the Sri Lankan Tamils were to think like the commenter , then they can write off not only Tamil Elam but the very right to live in Sri Lanka, by trusting Karunanidhi.
For my views on Tamil Elam,LTTE,Karunanidhi and Tamils in Sri Lanka one need to rad my blogs on the subject.
It was my blog that carried the full video of the Channel 4 massacre of Tamils in India first and I was the first one to start the fusillade of anger of Tamils in The Independent by writing forcefully against Rrajapakshe and Co.
My blog contains the most exhaustive Documents of the Tamis Massacre and the Criminal activities of Rajapakshe Government.
The Gopuram (Temple Tower) of the Temple is the emblem of The Government of Tamil Nadu.
Well, you can not expect respect and regard from the people who married widow,called Tamil as a language of the Barbarians , who decried Idol worships but worshipped in idol form as a ritual and whose birth day is celebrated after his death!
His disciple(when it suits him) is a man who has illegal relationship and an offspring, which and whom whom he flaunts publicly.
Here is man who ran away from a prostitute’s house without paying money, after enjoying her services by the back door.(Vana Vasam-by Kannadasan).
Thanks to the efforts of dedicated Sri Vaishnavaites, the CM of Tamil Nadu J.Jayalalithaa had ordered the removal of the offensive portions from the text book insulting th Saint Andal.
This information was forwarded to me by Mr. Venkatakrishnan Chellappa.
Message.
“Dear Swamis,
Further to our requests, Adiyen Understand that TamilNadu CM has responded to our plea by removing the controversial syllabus from chapter.
The news came through other yahoo groups.
Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan
Rajagopalan
—-Original Message—–
From: muktha
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:03 AM
To: mailto:Oppiliappan%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Oppiliappan] Re: Let us all raise our voices! – TN CM Cell’s Email
Id and Online Petition LinkToday I Met Cho Sir at his office. Explained him the “Manonmaniam issue
about Defaming Goddess Andal( with Sri Ranga Sri, Divyadesam and oppiliiian
messages)…. Surprised to hear. It has gone to CM Jayalalitha’s attention..
And needful action was taken…. Thanks CM Jayalalitha! Now they have
assured to remove all the nonsense http://www.kalakendra.com/wp-images/artist/ChoRamaswamy.jpg
Thanks CM J.Jayalitha
Muktha Ravi
S/o Muktha Srinivasan
/terms/
Manonmaniyam Sundaranar University has included a portion in its Syllabus for Students of Degree which states that the Great Tamil Saint Andal was a Deavadasi and Periyaazvar begot her by Illicit liaison.
A King VallabhaDevan lusted after her and sent her presents.
Sri Andal
There is no evidence to support this gem of a Find.
The Gopuram (Temple Tower) of the Temple is the emblem of The Government of Tamil Nadu.
Well, you can not expect respect and regard from the people who married widow,called Tamil as a language of the Barbarians , who decried Idol worship but is worshipped in idol form as a ritual and whose birth day is celebrated after his death!
His disciple(when it suits him) is a man who has illegal relationship and an offspring, whom he flaunts publicly.
Here is man who ran away from a prostitute’s house without paying money, after enjoying her services by the back door.(Vana Vasam-by Kannadasan).
What can you expect from them?
Where is Vaiko who raised a hue and cry over insult to Tamil language and Tamils over a cartoon on Anti Hindi agitation in a NCERT text Book?
Vaiko makes a living by lecturing about Tamil literature.
‘Ellam ore kuttailil oorina mattaikal’ as Kamarajar aptly put it.(Chips of the Same Block)
I have received a forward from my friend Sri.Srinivasan Rajan on this subject.
“Veeravalli Raghunathan <vvraghuja@hotmail.com>9 originak mail from Mr.Raghunathan)
Date: Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 3:56 PM
Subject: [SriParakalaMatham] Let us all raise our voices!”
Apettition is being addressed to Ms.J.Jayalalithaa, Chief Minister Of Tamil Nadu to take action.
All Hindus and Tamil Loving Non Hindus who are secular and rational may sign the petition.
திருநெல்வேலி, ஜூன் 25: திருநெல்வேலி மனோன்மணீயம் சுந்தரனார் பல்கலைக்கழகத்தில் தற்போது மாற்றப்பட்டுள்ள இளங்கலை தமிழ் புத்தகத்தில் நோன்பு என்ற தலைப்பில் கொடுக்கப்பட்டுள்ள கட்டுரை ஒன்று பெருத்த சர்ச்சையை ஏற்படுத்தியுள்ளது.
இதில், இளங்கலை முதலாம் பருவத்துக்கான பாடத்திட்டத்தில், தமிழ் மொழி பாடப் பிரிவில் கொடுக்கப்பட்ட புத்தகத்தில் இத்தகைய காழ்ப்புணர்வுக் கட்டுரையை பல்கலைக் கழக பாடத்திட்டக் குழுவினர் சேர்த்துள்ளனர். இதில், ஆண்டாள் தேவதாசியாகவும், அவர் பெரியாழ்வாருக்கு திருட்டுத்தனமாகப் பிறந்ததாகவும், ஆண்டாள் மீது மன்னன் வல்லபதேவன் மோகம் கொண்டு பரிசுகளை அனுப்பி வைத்தான் என்றும் ஒரு கதையை இணைத்துள்ளனர். மேலும் ஆபாச வர்ணனைகளும் இந்தப் பாடத்திட்டத்தில் இடம்பெற்றுள்ளதாகத் தெரியவருகிறது.
இந்தத் தகவலை வெளிக் கொணர்ந்துள்ள அகில பாரதீய வித்யார்த்தி பரிஷத் மாணவர் அமைப்பு, தமிழக அரசின் சின்னமாக விளங்கும் திருவில்லிபுத்தூர் கோயில் கோபுரம் தமிழகத்தின் கவுரவத்தை வெளிக்காட்டுவது. ஆண்டாள், நம் தமிழ் பண்பாட்டின் சிகரமாக தெய்வமாக விளங்குபவர். அவரை இவ்வளவுதூரம் கீழ்த்தரமாகச் சித்திரிக்கும் வகையில் பல்கலை பாடத்திட்டத்தில் சேர்த்திருப்பது, பாடத்திட்டத்தை தயார் செய்த பேராசிரியர்களின் வக்கிர புத்தியையும் கீழ்த்தரமான எண்ணத்தையும் காட்டுகிறது என்று கூறியுள்ளது. மேலும், இது குறித்த விழிப்பு உணர்வை ஏற்படுத்தும் வண்ணம் திருநெல்வேலி நகரில் சுவரொட்டிகளையும் ஒட்டியுள்ளது. இந்தப் பாடத்திட்டத்தை உடனே நீக்கி மன்னிப்பு கேட்காவிட்டால் பல்கலைக் கழகத்தை முற்றுகையிட்டு போராட்டம் நடத்துவோம் என ஏ.பி.வி.பி அமைப்பின் மண்டலச் செயலாளர் செய்தியாளர்களிடம் கூறினார். இது குறித்த அறிக்கை ஒன்றினையும் அவர் வெளியிட்டார்.
I have documented ,including Videos, on the Genocide committed by Sri Lankan Forces.
They are filed under Sri Lanka,Tamils.
Stop killing the Tamil people (Photo credit: BockoPix)
This is not apologia for LTTE.
Their crimes are also documented.
The Report by The Tribunal On Si Lanka and
“The tribunal listened to several presentations by NGOs, experts on the recent and current “civil war”
situation in Sri Lanka, in front of a public audience. The Tribunal listened to a larger number of
witnesses, victims, human rights defenders, journalists and Tamils from the diaspora in ‘in camera.
sessions’ in order to protect their identity.
In its work the Tribunal was reminded several times that this civil war was a “war without witnesses”
because the GoSL had prevented either national or international media coverage. In fact, some of the
early victims were the many journalists that were murdered by unknown assassins, something which
appeared to serve the agenda of the Government by silencing critical opinion. The impression held by
most experts and witnesses is that this was a civil war, and an exercise in ethnic cleansing, perhaps even
genocide, and that the Government did not wish to share this with the media. Instead, significant
misinformation as to the policies, the fighting, and the numbers and overall well-being of civilians in LTTE-controlled areas was provided by Colombo.
This misinformation frequently underestimated the number of Tamil civilians within LTTE-controlled
areas who were trapped by the military, and exposed to attack by aircraft and artillery. It was only when
the final exodus from the much diminished LTTE-held territory began, and the internally displaced
persons (IDPs) were counted that it was seen that the government had misinformed both the national
and the international public.
The atrocities carried out by the military relate particularly to civilians, and there is evidence of cluster
munitions being dropped by warplanes. Some witnesses reported that white phosphorous was used in
violation of international law. Several witnesses had seen burn marks on wounded civilians. Others
believed that indications of napalm were apparent, and evidence of other incendiary devices has been
confirmed by doctors who had cared for hundreds of Tamil civilians wounded in this manner. The
sight of hundreds of dead bodies was reported by a number of witnesses. This indicates that in addition
to the many wounded and the heavy loss of civilian life, the destruction of civilian infrastructure
essential for human wellbeing was common (with women and children among those targeted) in the
diminishing areas controlled by the LTTE.
The frequent use of heavy artillery by the military against LTTE forces in civilian areas, including on
public buildings such as hospitals and schools as indicated above, constitutes a violation of the Geneva
Conventions. The populace suffered from the lack of potable water, lack of access to essential medical
care and continuing lack of access to educational facilities. Virtually all their basic human rights were
violated. Further, loss of civilian life under these conditions was very high. By April 2009, according to
internal documents of the United Nations, use of heavy weapons, combined with air-raids caused the
death of some 116 persons each day. Further, British and French media indicated that during the final
weeks of fighting some 20.000 Tamils were killed.
The attempt to annihilate the Tamil population with or without the use of illegal weapons certainly
constitutes one form of war crime. The question remains if the government intended genocide in
respect of the Tamil people in brutally suppressing armed and political resistance. From expert and
eye-witness testimony, it would seem certain that the military attacked targets of a purely civilian
nature, such as hospitals, fleeing IDPs and many villages. Further, evidence that the military executed
both Tamil civilians and LTTE prisoners of war, who in some cases had voluntarily surrendered,
further supports charges of ethnic cleansing and violations of international law.
Before drawing any conclusions, other atrocities and abuses of Tamil civilians need to be considered.
Witness testimony on IDP “camps”, or perhaps “concentration camps” as suggested by testimony,
demands attention. Portrayed by the government as temporary residential facilities pending the return
home or resettlement of those detained within them, the camps were designated as “welfare villages”
by the government. Fifteen such IDP camps were so designated. These camps continue to be in gross
violation of the Geneva Conventions and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Many tragedies
within the camps were reported to the Tribunal members. Living space was very modest, cover was of
galvanised tin which in hot conditions became a health hazard, often resulting in poor skin conditions.
Many children in particular, but also women and the aged, died from diseases such as cholera and
malnutrition. Water supply was a significant problem, with five litres per day for all the needs of a
family being totally inadequate and threatening to health. Sufficient water for simple hygiene, toilet use
and the washing of clothes (most IDPs had only the clothes on their backs) was simply unavailable.
Garbage remained in place, and toilets pits constructed without cement often collapsed leading to
flooding, and, in some cases, the drowning of children. Many children had lost both parents and
become orphans, or only had the protection of a single parent, and were thus vulnerable to the many
dangers lurking in the camps.
Another unacceptable government policy was the withholding of food, and the use of this tactic as a
tool to coerce and torture Tamil civilians. The blockade of food supplies and deliberate underestimation
of the numbers of civilians within the LTTE-controlled areas also led to dangerous food shortages.
The additional withholding of medical supplies to Tamil civilians is equally unacceptable and a violation
of humanitarian law.
In a news story published on 9th June 2012, The Times of India, titled ‘ New cartoon Row,this one on Anti-Hindi Riots’ has published a blurb in the story . calling Tamil as ‘Tongue Twister ‘Where it en-capsules the anti Hindi agitation .
This portion is not available in the On Line version.
Cartoon in NCERT Text Book on Anti Hindi Agitation
” Even before the din over a school textbook cartoon of B R Ambedkar had died down, a fresh row erupted over a cartoon on the anti-Hindi agitation in Tamil Nadu.
MDMK chief Vaiko on Friday shot off a letter to Union HRD minister Kapil Sibal, seeking the removal of a cartoon in the NCERT class XII political science textbook because it distorted history and hurt Tamil sentiments. PMK leader S Ramadoss joined in to say the cartoon insulted the protests in the 1960s over imposition of Hindi in education that left eight people dead.
“The cartoon depicts Tamil students in poor light” portraying them as “merely indulging in violence”, Vaiko said in his letter to Sibal and NCERT director Parvin Sinclair .
For a glorified Dialect, a Language, especially Tamil is no doubt a ‘Tongue Twister’
It is an insult to the Tamil Language as well as Tamils.
If the Times of India were to cover the news item it is welcome.
But why insult a language?
Even the tone of the news item, if one were to carefully read it, one would know that thee is a derisive tone.
If you want to write on Anti Hindi agitation , write it,why call the language as a tongue twister, especially when there is no reason for you to provide the blurb which has nothing to do with the news provided under the head.
If one were to go by the History of Linguistics Hindi, it stands nowhere near Tamil.
Colloquial Standard Hindi is mutually intelligible with another register of Hindustani language called Urdu. Mutual intelligibility decreases in literary and specialized contexts which rely on educated vocabulary. Due to religious nationalism and communal tensions, speakers of both Hindi and Urdu frequently assert that they are distinct languages, despite the fact that native speakers generally cannot tell the colloquial languages apart. The combined population of Hindi-Urdu speakers is the fourth largest in the world.[4] However, the number of native speakers of Standard Hindi is unclear. According to the 2001 Indian census,[5] 258 million people in India reported their native language to be “Hindi”. However, this includes large numbers of speakers of Hindi dialects besides Standard Hindi; as of 2009, the best figure Ethnologue could find for Khariboli dialect was a 1991 citation of 180 million.[1]
The dialect upon which Standard Hindi is based is khariboli, the vernacular of Delhi and the surrounding western Uttar Pradesh and southernUttarakhand region. This dialect acquired linguistic prestige in the Mughal Empire (17th century) and became known as Urdu, “the language of the court.” As noted and referenced in History of Hindustani, prior to the 17th century, it was not referred to not as Urdu but Hindustani. After independence, the Government of India set about standardising Hindi as a separate language from Urdu, instituting the following conventions:[original research?]
standardization of grammar: In 1954, the Government of India set up a committee to prepare a grammar of Hindi; The committee’s report was released in 1958 as “A Basic Grammar of Modern Hindi”
standardization of the orthography, using the Devanagari script, by the Central Hindi Directorate of the Ministry of Education and Culture to bring about uniformity in writing, to improve the shape of some Devanagari characters, and introducing diacritics to express sounds from other languages.
Formal Standard Hindi draws much of its academic vocabulary from Sanskrit, and has looked to Sanskrit for borrowing from at least the 15th century BC. Standard Hindi loans words are classified into five principal categories:
Tatsam (तत्सम / same as that) words: These are words which are spelled the same in Hindi as in Sanskrit (except for the absence of final case inflections).[9] They include words inherited from Sanskrit via Prakrit which have survived without modification (e.g. Hindustani nām/Sanskrit nāma, “name”; Hindustani Suraj/Sanskrit Surya, “sun”),[10] as well as forms borrowed directly from Sanskrit in more modern times (e.g. prārthanā, “prayer”).[11] Pronunciation, however, conforms to Hindi norms and may differ from that of classical Sanskrit. Among nouns, the tatsam word could be the Sanskrit uninflected word-stem, or it could be the nominative singular form in the Sanskrit nominal declension.
Ardhatatsam (अर्धतत्सम) words: These are words that were borrowed from Sanskrit in the middle Indo-Aryan or early New Indo-Aryan stages.[citation needed] Such words typically have undergone sound changes subsequent to being borrowed.
Tadbhav (तद्भव / born of that) words: These are words which are spelled differently from Sanskrit but are derivable from a Sanskrit prototype by phonological rules (e.g. Sanskrit karma, “deed” becomes Palikamma, and eventually Hindi kām, “work”).[9]
Deshaj (देशज) words: These are words that were not borrowings but do not derive from attested Indo-Aryan words either. Belonging to this category are onomatopoetic words.
Videshī (विदेशी) words: these include all words borrowed from sources other than Indo-Aryan. The most frequent sources of borrowing in this category have been Persian, Arabic, Portuguese and English.
Note that Hindi in the present format came into being in 17th Century during the Moghul Empire.
And which Hindi are we speaking about?
Uttarkhand,UP,Bihar or from other places?
To have made Hindi as the Official Language is a travesty of Democracy.
By majority, Telugu should have been the Official language, being spoken as a Single language,followed by Tamil.
Because of the number of seats in the North, Hindi was made the Official Language of India.
One may have a lot to attack the DMK and Karunanidhi but the fact is that but for the Anti Hindi movement by the DMK, South Indians to-day would have been reeling under the weight of Hindi.
Unfortunately these corrupt politicians , in their quest for power and to extricate themselves from Corruption charges have hocked their pride at the altar of Hindi-Vaiko is excluded.
Now the old Karunanidhi is gone.
He will be seen at Delhi licking the feet of Delhi to exonerate his daughter from Corruption Charges or for getting Cabinet berths.
One can witness to-day in South the unnoticed domination of Hindi, starting from the Construction worker level to Company CEOs.
Even the Restaurants/security men in Housing Complexes ,have Hindi speaking people, worse with no ability to speak the local language.
This is horrible. especially in Bangalore, where the people seem to feel that speaking Kannada is beneath their dignity.
Chennai is sligthly better.
Unless you respect your language you will be drowned.-you may not know it now.
By insulting Tamil and the Anti Hindi agitation The Times of India is hurting the sentiments of the Tamils.
Do not reopen the Language issue.
Tamils seem to have graciously accepted Hindi.
If the trend persists , the issue will boomerang.
( Why is it the Entertainment Channels, including the children Channel POGO, depict The Tamils as uncouth ,wearing caste mark grotesquely , mouthing atrocious English? Shah Rukh Khan in his film Ra. One apes a Tamilian eats dirty.How many Tamilians have you seen eating dirty?
I have not traced the History of Tamil. it is for people to find out.
A mixture of Dialects and imported mixture of Persian Urdu can not hold a candle to Tamil/Telugu/Kannada .
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