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  • Svarga Mount Meru Of Hinduism Is The Arctic

    Descriptions of places in Hindu epics are generally real.

     

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    Heaven Hinduism. Image credit. http://www.hinduhumanrights.info/the-seven-heavens-and-the-wheel/

     

    Except of the Poetic License where the writer indulges in hyperbole.

     

    However the basic information about the Topography is correct and verifiable.

     

    Many of the sites mentioned in the Ramayana, Mahabharata,The Vedas have been found now.

     

    Ayodhya, Mathura,Pandyaa Kingdoms, not to speak of the Holy places, Rivers, Mountains and even the Species that thrive in these locations.

     

    At the same time one gets the impression that the areas mentioned are not in The Earth and are located in some other location ,Planet, under the Ocean.

     

    And we have the Lokas, the abode of Beings confusing.

     

    We have , for example, the Surya Loka, Chandra Loka.

     

    While the description of these places make one belive that these are In Heavens, one is floored by the reference to these places in Treatises relating to Astronomy that they are Stars, Planets and their movements are measured, without mentioning the Inhabitants.

     

    These are taken as reference points in studying Astronomy.

     

    Then we have the Philosophical treatises mention these places as indicative of spiritual development.

     

    Chandra is associated(Moon) withe Mind.

     

    In Spiritual development, Chandra loka means an awakening of the mind on its path towards Self realization.

     

    Surya Loka is a heightened state of spiritual development.

     

    While taking about these , the treatises do not talk of these as place of Dwelling, but as a state of Spiritual Development.

     

    There are also references in the Vishnu Purana about the Sun, Moon an`d the Pole Star(Dhruva Mandala)

     

    The distance of these places from the earth are shown and it is stated that they , Sun and Moon are destroyed during the Dissolution by Brahma(Pralaya), but Pole Satr remains!

     

    Here it becomes tougher to know whether these places are locations or indicative of spiritual development.

     

    Lets us keep this point in mind before  proceed further.

     

    Descriptions of Svarga or Heaven remain unchanged in all the Puranas and Ithihasas.

    When one reads the original texts and finds that some characters have visited these places form the earth, right from Mandhata to Arjuna, Narada keeps commuting from Heaven to earth, one gets an inkling that these places could be on the earth.

     

    Read the following study.

     

    I am inclined to have an open mind on this as this seems to be on course with the tenets of Hinduism, where Svarga or Naraka ,Heaven or Hell is more of the Mind and its manifestations, not withstanding the Garuda Purana where details of Travel to Heaven is described.

     

    These are mostly allegorical.

     

    One may refer to the ascendency to Heaven by the Pandavas, where the descriptions are of the Himalayas and proceeding further North.

     

    And we have the Meru Mountain , whose description bewilders one.

     

    Please read my post on this.

     

    Now the Heavens are Arctic….

     

    “Despite the prevalent opinion that all gods were inhabitants of heaven, their larger part lived on land, in water or underground. According to Indian and Slavonic legends, gods-incomers (Adityas/Devas and Svarozhichi – Svarozhichs) lived in the land (kingdom) of Indra/Svarog –Svarga/Blue Svarga, the capital of which the majestic city of godsAmaravati was. In spite of the fact that Old Indian written information sources point (indicate) to a different location of Svarga and Amaravati -from the superior planets (Satjaloka, Maharloka, Svargaloka) to some area between Earth and the Sun,  of heaven or of the earth surface, in the Second and Third books of the “Mahabharata” (Sabhaparva and Aranyakaparva) more than convincing arguments are given in favour of that Svarga, including Meru mount (Amaravati was on the top of it), Mandara and adjacent mounts with forests,

     

    gardens, parks and orchards, was on the Earth (on land).
    Here is how the land of Indra is described in the “Aran    yakaparva” in B.L. Smirnov’s translation from Sanscrit and author’s translation from Russian:
    «At last th    e abode  (dwelling place) of Shakra, Amaravati, I have seen.
    … the Sun there does not bake, neither heat, nor chill do not exhaust,
    … There on trees always flowers and fruits, (always)
    Leaves turn green;
    [There] various ponds, grown with the blue
    Lotus    es and lilies white, fragrant;
    …There winnows a fragrant breeze – vivifying, cool, pure;
    … There is possible to see many air chariots,
    Flying by in heaven…»…

     

    The “Rigveda”, “Mahabharata”, “Bhagavata purana”, «Laws of Manu» [1] and other Old Indian texts, and also the Old Iranian “(Zend-)Avesta” place Meru mount [2] and accordingly Svarga in the far North:
    «On the North side, shining, there is mighty Meru… Great Meru, the chaste (pure), good abode  (dwelling place). Here set and again [over the Meru] rise Seven divine rishis led by Vasishtha [3]» (the “Mahabharata”);
    «On Meru gods see the sun after its one-time rising over a period its path, equal to     a half of its circulation round land». «For gods and day and night – a year [human],  again divided in two: day – the period of movement of the sun northward, night – the period of movement to the south» («Laws of Manu»).
    The “Avesta” also give characteristic features of the polar disposition of Hara mount (Meru): «That they consider by day, that is a year. … there stars, moon, the sun can be seen once a year only rising and setting, and year seems only one day».
    Judging by the fragments cited above, Svarga, “Paradise of Indra” or “Paradise of Svarog” was located near to the North pole and, perhaps,were by a part of the disappeared polar continent – Hyperborea. According to the descriptions given in the “Mahabharata”, it was a mountainous country with mounts to the sky, the main of which was  Mandara:
    «On the North side, shining, stands mighty Meru. The paradise of great god Indra placed on its top. From these mounts the great rivers … fall. At the bottom     of Meru – « adobe of gods »,  Milk ocean is, and before the great mounts Meru sandy sea is stretched out».
    Svarga can be compared with Jambudvipa described by Shukadeva Gosvami [4] in the “Bhagavata purana” . If we clean it from poetic embellishments (such, as trees up to heaven, lakes of honey and milk) it come to the following.
    In Jambudvipa there is Sumeru mount. Sumeru is environed by four other mounts: Mandara, Merumandara, Suparshva and Kumuda. On these four mounts mango trees, pink apples trees, kadamba  trees and banyan trees grow. Besides, there are a lot of lakes with pure water. There are also gardens, the names of which are Nandana,  Chitraratha, Vaibhradzhaka and Sarvatobhadra. Sumeru is surrounded by twenty mountain chains, including Kuranga, Kurara, Kusumbha, Vaikanka and Trikuta. To the East from Sumeru Dzhathara and Devakuta mounts, to the West  from Sumeru – Pavana and Pariyatra, to the South – Kailasa and Karavira, and to the North – Trishringa and Makara. On the top of Sumeru there is Brahmapuri, residence of Lord Brahma. Round Brahmapuri are cities of tsar Indra and seven other demigods. Each of these cities is in four times less than Brahmapuri…

     

    Comparing different descriptions of continent of Svarga (Jambudvipa, Hyperborea) among themselves, somebody pays attention at once to their obvious differences. On the one hand, this country was situated near to the North pole «in the area of gloom and snow», «where stars rotate, the Moon and the Sun». On the other hand, there was never cold on it, evergreen trees and flowers grew, larger part of which could grow only in warm tropical climate.

     

    It can be related as with different time of compiling of legends, so with repeated application in the “Mahabharata”, “Ramayana”, “Bhagavata purana” and other Old Indian texts of additions and adjustments (improvements). And, most likely, that and other together.
    In my opinion,     the fragments given above describe different time – when Svarga represented the country with warm tropical climat and gods-incomers (Adityas, Svarozhichi -Svarozhichs, etc.) lived in it, and when the country, fertile before, had turned out in the area near the North pole (or to the contrary, the North pole moved to it) and had been locked by ice (has been icebound). Judging by the having data, it had happened rather recently (about 12 thousand years ago), and the most possible reason of it was a global catastrophe accompanied by a shift of Earth’s axis. I will tell to you about it in my work “Last days of the Great Northern civilization -the descendants of white gods. What has happened in the Northeastern Asia, Alaska and the shelf of Arctic ocean 12 thousand years ago? The reconstructions on a joint of geology and history“

    Attention! This point of view reflects my opinion 3 years ago (relative to 2012). In fact, all was much more intricate. The glaciation of Svarga (Jambudvipa, Hyperborea) began at least 16 million years ago (according to K.Moran, Ya.Bekman, H.Brinkhus, 34 million years ago). Over the past 16 million years, the north pole position repeatedly changed, but all this time it remained in the Arctic region. At the same time the area of the northern continent reduces. The warm climate of Svarga (Jambudvipa, Hyperborea) was in the Paleocene and Eocene epoch (65,5-34 million years ago), called by me the “golden age”, and partly in the Oligocene and Early Miocene epoch (34-16 million years ago ). At this time, Earth was covered by  a water-steam envelope, and in the north it was as hot as at the equator. Read about it in the works, annotated with  “Hyperborea – the northern native land of mankind,” and on the website.’

     

    This might explain the seeming  discrepancy in some geographical descriptions in the Ramayana, especially the location of Lanka.

     

    I shall be writing on this.

     

    Citation:

     

    http://earthbeforeflood.com/home.html

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  • Australian Aborigines From India Genome-wide data

    Hindu Puranas describe the evolution of the world in detail, in all the eighteen of them.

    It is  a part of Grammar of Purana.

    Purana means, very Old.

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    Australian Aborigine.

    All the Purans agree on this point;there is no difference in the description of the Evolution of the world, though there are minor differences in respect of some Legends.

    The present world in which India is located is called the Jambu Dweepa and India was called Bharatha Varsha, in Bharatha Kanda.

    There are seven more areas expressed.

    These were called Milecha desa.

    “The Australian continent holds some of the earliest archaeological evidence for the expansion of modern humans out of Africa, with initial occupation at least 40,000 y ago. It is commonly assumed that Australia remained largely isolated following initial colonization, but the genetic history of Australians has not been explored in detail to address this issue. Here, we analyze large-scale genotyping data from aboriginal Australians, New Guineans, island Southeast Asians and Indians. We find an ancient association between Australia, New Guinea, and the Mamanwa (a Negrito group from the Philippines), with divergence times for these groups estimated at 36,000 y ago, and supporting the view that these populations represent the descendants of an early “southern route” migration out of Africa, whereas other populations in the region arrived later by a separate dispersal. We also detect a signal indicative of substantial gene flow between the Indian populations and Australia well before European contact, contrary to the prevailing view that there was no contact between Australia and the rest of the world. We estimate this gene flow to have occurred during the Holocene, 4,230 y ago. This is also approximately when changes in tool technology, food processing, and the dingo appear in the Australian archaeological record, suggesting that these may be related to the migration from India.”

    Some aboriginal Australians can trace as much as 11% of their genomes to migrants who reached the island around 4,000 years ago from India, a study suggests. Along with their genes, the migrants brought different tool-making techniques and the ancestors of the dingo, researchers say1.

    This scenario is the result of a large genetic analysis outlined today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences1. It contradicts a commonly held view that Australia had no contact with the rest of the world between the arrival of the first humans around 45,000 years ago and the coming of Europeans in the eighteenth century.

    “Australia is thought to represent one of the earliest migrations for humans after they left Africa, but it seemed pretty isolated after that,” says Mark Stoneking, a geneticist at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, who led the study.

    Irina Pugach, a postdoctoral researcher in Stoneking’s laboratory, discovered signs of the Indian migration by comparing genetic variation across the entire genomes of 344 individuals, including aboriginal Australians from the Northern Territory, highlanders from Papua New Guinea, several populations from Southeast Asian and India and a handful of people from the United States and China.

    Pugach confirmed an ancient association between the genomes of Australians, New Guineans and the Mamanwa — a Negrito group from the Philippines. These populations diverged around 36,000 years ago, suggesting that they all descended from an early southward migration out of Africa…

    But Pugach also found evidence of more recent genetic mixing, or gene flow, between the Indian and northern Australian populations — taking place around 141 generations ago. This gene flow could not have occurred during the initial wave of migration into Australia because it is absent from New Guinean and Mamanwa genomes, and it is too uniformly spread across the northern Aboriginal genomes to have come from European colonists.

    http://www.pnas.org/content/110/5/1803

    http://www.nature.com/news/genomes-link-aboriginal-australians-to-indians-1.12219

    http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-21016700

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  • Break In Eternity Vedas Dates Rishis Mantras

    The Vedas, the Sacred Books of the Hindus, transmitted orally are considered to be Apaurusheya, not Man mad, grasped from Ether by the Seers  intuitively.

     

    The are to be ‘Heard’, Sruthi, not learnt from written Books.

     

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    Rigveda (padapatha) manuscript in Devanagari, early 19th century.

     

    However, the written form of the Vedas are in the form of Manuscripts.

     

    “Due to the ephemeral nature of the manuscript material (birch bark or palm leaves), manuscripts rarely surpass an age of a few hundred years.

     

    The Benares Sanskrit University has a Rigveda manuscript of the mid-14th century and there are a number of older Veda manuscripts in Nepal belonging to the Vajasaneyi tradition that are dated from the 11th century onwards.”

     

    The core text of the Yajurveda falls within the classical Mantra period of Vedic Sanskrit at the end of the 2nd millennium BCE – younger than the Rigveda, and roughly contemporary with the Atharvaveda, the Rigvedic Khilani, and the Sāmaveda.

    The scholarly consensus dates the bulk of the Yajurveda and Atharvaveda hymns to the early Indian Iron Age, c. 1200 or 1000 BC, corresponding to the early Kuru Kingdom.

     

    There is a dispute about the exact date of the Manuscripts.

     

    What is to be borne in mind is that the spoken word being older than the written word, and considering the richness of the Language used the Vedas must date quite a few thousand years than the date of the Manuscripts.

     

    But be it as it may.

     

    What I am interested is not about the date of the Vedas but the dates of Vedas when seen in conjunction with the Ithihasas, Ramayana and Puranas.

     

    They themselves admit that the follow the Vedas and as such mus be post-Veda.

     

    Fine, no issues,

     

    But when the Vedas contain references to the Puranas, Ihihsas or their Characters found therein?

     

    Vedas contain,

     

    1. Rama-rahasyopanishad.
    2. Rama-tapany-upanishad.
    3. Vasudevopanishad.
    4. Gopala-tapany-upanishad.
    5. Krishnopanishad.
    6. Nrisimha-tapaniyopanishad.
    7. Yajnavalkyopanishad.
    8. Varahopanishad

     

     

    Of these,are characters   from The Ramayana(1,2 ) ,: 3, 4 , 5  from Mahabharata and Bhagavatham while 6 ,7, and 8 from Puranas ..

     

    Yagnavalkya is reported to have vomited the Vedas , Taittriyas.

     

    If one looks at these the question that comes to mind is,

     

    If the Purana, Ithihasas are later than the Vedas, how come they are mentioned in the Vedas?

     

    It is also stated that Viswamitra gave the world the Gayatri Mantra, to whom it was revealed.

     

    The Rig Vedic version has one syllable short and Taittriya Aranyaka has the full detailed version.

     

    Does this mean that before it was revealed to Viswamitra no body chanted it?

     

    Yet there are references of the Rishis chanting the Gayatri before the advent of Viswamitra.

     

    How and why?

     

    Therefore my options are.

    1. That the Vedas are not eternal I do not subscribe to this view.

    2.The References to Puranas are Interpolations.- Possible.

    3.That as Sound precedes being grasped, Sounds  that exists eternally, are picked up at different times by the different Seers and are recorded.

     

    Eminently possible.

     

    Understanding Infinity and Zero are equally beyond me.

     

    In this sense eternity seems to have a break in that while Sound is Eternal, grasping it not.

     

    Inputs welcome.

     

    Citation.

    http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Hinduism/The_Vedas

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  • Definition of Purana Classification Verses

    In Hinduism, there are Eighteen Major Puranas.

     

    Some include Vayu Purana and count as Nineteen.

     

    Puranas are Smriti, ‘Remembered’ as against Sruthi, Vedas, ‘Heard’

     

    Purana is made up of Pura +Navam, meaning,

     

    Ver Old, yet Novel.

     

    What becomes eligible to be called a Purana?

     


    sargas ca pratisarga ca
    vamsa manvantarani ca
    vamsanu caritam capi
    puranam panca laksanam-Amarakosa.

     

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    Divisions of Vedic Literature, Puranas.

    1. Sarga.

     

    2.Prati Sarga.

     

    3.Vamsa.

     

    4.Manvanthara.

     

    5.Vamsavali.

     

    Sarga -Creation and Evolution of The Universe.

     

    Prati Sarga-Dissolution and re-Manifestation of the Universe.

     

    Vamsa-Solar and Lunar Dynasties.

     

    Manvanthara-Different Yugas, Aeons.

     

    Vamsavali-Dynaties, other than Solar and Lunar.

     

    This is definition by Amarasimha and others.

     

    These are compiled, not written in as original by Vyasa.

     

    These Puranas speak about  Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.

     

    Those that speak of Brahma are Rajasa Purana,

     

    Of Vishnu, Sathvika, and

     

    of  the Rites to be performed for the dead, Poojas, Vrats, Pilgrimage, Dhana, Dharma and Shiva are  Tamasa Purana.

     

    Who said to whom?

     

    Shiva Purana- B Brahma to Narada.

     

    Koorma b Pulasthya to Narada,

     

    Garuda, by Garuda to Kasyapa ,

     

    Markandeya by Markandeya to Jamini,

     

    Agni, by Agni to Vyasa,

     

    Varaha, Vayu and Kandha Purana by Varaha, Vayu and Muruga respectively.

     

    Vishnu Purana by Matsayavatara Vishnu to Manu .

     

     

    Of the many texts designated ‘Puranas’ the most important are the Mahāpurāṇas. These are always said to be eighteen in number, divided into three groups of six, though in fact they are not always counted in the same way. Combining the various lists Cornelia Dimmitt and J. A. B. van Buitenen have collated twenty names, totalling 429,000 verses:[18]

    Purana name Verses number Comments
    Agni 15,400 verses Contains details of Vastu Shastra and Gemology.
    Bhagavata 18,000 verses Indologist Ludo Rocher considers it to be the most celebrated and popular of the Puranas,[19][20] telling of Vishnu’s ten Avatars. Its tenth and longest canto narrates the deeds of Krishna, introducing his childhood exploits, a theme later elaborated by many Bhakti movements.[21]
    Brahma 10,000 verses Describes the Godavari and its tributaries.
    Brahmanda 12,000 verses Includes Lalita Sahasranamam, a text some Hindus recite as prayer.
    Brahmavaivarta 17,000 verses Describes ways to worship Devis, Krishna and Ganesha.
    Garuda 19,000 verses Describes death and its aftermaths.
    Harivamsa 16,000 verses Is considered to be itihāsa (epic poetry).
    Kurma 17,000 verses
    Linga 11,000 verses Describes the magnificence of Lingam, symbol of Shiva, and origin of the universe. It also contains many stories of Lingam one of which entails how Agni Lingam solved dispute between Vishnu and Brahma.
    Markandeya 09,000 verses The Devi Mahatmya, an important text for the Shaktas, is embedded in it.
    Matsya 14,000 verses Narrates the story of Matsya, the first of ten major Avatars of Vishnu. It also contains genealogical details of various dynasties.[22]
    Narada 25,000 verses Describes the greatness of Vedas and Vedangas.
    Padma 55,000 verses Describes the greatness of Bhagavad Gita. Hence, it is also known as gītāmāhātmya (lit. the majesty of Gita).
    Shiva 24,000 verses Describes the greatness of Shiva, greatness in worshiping Shiva and other stories about him.
    Skanda 81,100 verses Describes the birth of Skanda (or Karthikeya), first son of Shiva. The longest Purana, it is an extraordinarily meticulous pilgrimage guide, containing geographical locations of pilgrimage centers in India, with related legends, parables, hymns and stories. Many untraced quotes are attributed to this text.[23]
    Vamana 10,000 verses Describes areas around Kurukshetra in North India.
    Varaha 24,000 verses Describes various forms prayer and devotional observances to Vishnu. Many illustrations also involve Shiva and Durga.[24]
    Vayu 24,000 verses Another name of Shiva Purana
    Vishnu 23,000 verses Describes the many deeds of Vishnu and various ways to worship him.[25]

    Classification.

    Puranas are classified according to qualification of persons who can understand them: “Purāṇas are supplementary explanations of the Vedas intended for different types of men. All men are not equal. There are men who are conducted by the mode of goodness, others who are under the mode of passion and others who are under the mode of ignorance. The Purāṇas are so divided that any class of men can take advantage of them and gradually regain their lost position and get out of the hard struggle for existence.”[26]

    The Mahapuranas are frequently classified according the three aspects of the divine Trimurti:[2]

    VaiṣṇavaPuranas: Vishnu Purana, Bhagavata Purana, Nāradeya Purana, Garuda Purana, Padma Purana, Varaha Purana, Vāmana Purana,Kūrma Purana, Matsya Purana, Kalki Purana
    BrāhmaPuranas: Brahma Purana, Brahmānda Purana, Brahma Vaivarta Purana, Mārkandeya Purana, Bhavishya Purana,
    ŚaivaPuranas: Shiva Purana, Linga Purana, Skanda Purana, Agni Purana, Vāyu Purana

     

    1) Vishnu Purana – 23,000 verses.

     

    Stories of various devotees; a description of varnasrama; the six angas of the Veda; a description of the age of Kali; description of Sveta-Varaha Kalpa, Vishnu dharmotara.

     

    2) Naradiya Purana – 25,000 verses.

     

    This Purana contains a synopsis of everything; it describes Jagannatha Puri, Dwaraka, Badrinatha, etc.

     

    3) Padma Purana – 55,000 verses.

     

    Contains the glory of Srimad-Bhagavatam; the stories of Rama, Jagannatha, Matsya, Ekadasi, Bhrgu, etc.

     

    4) Garuda Purana – 19,000 verses.

     

    Subject of Bhagavad-gita; reincarnation; visnu-sahasra-nama; description of Tarsya Kalpa.

     

    5) Varaha Purana – 24,000 verses.

     

    Describes different vratas; Lord Vishnu’s glories.

     

    6) Bhagavata Purana – 18,000 verses. (included by some in the mode of goodness)

     

    Puranas with Lord Brahma as the Predominating Deity (Rajo Guna):

     

    7) Brahmanda Purana – 12,000 verses.

     

    Describes the vedangas; describes the Adi Kalpa.

     

    8) Brahmavaivarta Purana – 18,000 verses.

     

    Contains the glories and pastimes of Radha and Krishna.

     

    9) Markandeya Purana – 9,000 verses.

     

    Stories of Rama and Krishna.

     

    10) Bhavisya Purana – 14,500 verses.

     

    Contains the glories of devotional service; prediction of Lord Chaitanya.

     

    11) Vamana Purana – 10,000 verses.

     

    Contains the story of Lord Trivikrama.

     

    12) Brahma Purana – 10,000 verses.

     

     

    Puranas with Lord Shiva as the Predominating Deity (Tamo Guna):

     

    13) Matsya Purana – 14,000 verses.

     

    Temple construction; describes Vamana and Varaha Kalpas.

     

    14) Kurma Purana – 17,000 verses.

     

    Contains the conversation between Krishna and the Sun-god (mentioned in Bhagavad-gita); Danvantari; Describes the Lakshmi Kalpa.

     

    15) Linga Purana – 10,000 verses.

     

    Contains the glory of Lord Nrismhadeva; Janardhana; the story of Ambarisa; the glories of Gayatri.

     

    16) Shiva Purana – 24,000 verses.

     

    17) Skanda Purana – 81,000 verses.

     

    18) Agni Purana – 15,400 verses.

     

    Contains the description of Salagrama; Describes the Isana Kalpa.

     

     

    Citation.

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puranas

     

    http://www.chanakya.com/purana-list.htm

     

    Image Credit.

     

    http://www.interfaith.org/forum/divisions-of-the-vedic-literatures-12864.html

     

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  • Hinduism Seven Higher Lokas Existence Explained

    Hinduism describes fourteen Lokas or places  where there is Existence.

     

    I have not used the term Human.

     

    The descriptions are of beings;  in terms of Color, Shape, their behaviors, they  are different.

     

    One view is that they are descriptions indicating Spiritual Development.

     

    For example, Chandra Loka denotes mental acumen and development of Buddhi unhindered by Mans, the Mind.

     

    Chandra indicates the Mind.

     

    Suyra, Sun represents knowledge.

     

    Budha , Mercury Wisdom.

     

    Bruhaspati, Jupiter, Discerning ability.

     

    Angaaraka, Volatile temper,

     

    Sukra , venus, material enjoyment,

     

    Sani, Saturn, mental toughness,

     

    Raahhu, a shadow planet, represents,aggressive behavior, to be tempered by Wisdom by Kethu another Shadow planet by Philosophical Disposition.

     

    Kethu, Philosophical Disposition.

     

    However there is another view, which states that these are places inhabited by Beings.

     

    I subscribe to the view that these Planets do not indicate dwelling Places, but only  mental stages as a careful study of the Vedas reveal .

     

    The Veda Mantras addressed to these Planets, including Navagraha Mantras used in The Navagraha Homa, talk about qualities and are allegorical.

     

    However there are legends in the Purans on these planets having Form and are found to be interacting among themselves and with Human Beings.

     

    But specific places of their dwelling is only hinted at and these may indicate their qualities.

     

    But there are other Fourteen Lokas described in the Vedas and Purans .

     

    These are spiritual and Dwelling Places.

     

    They might exist in different planes, at different levels.

     

    An interpretation is that these are the Quantum Fields other than where we exist.

     

    Please read my pots on this filed under Astrophysics.

     

    Yet there is evidence to suggest that these are Planes of existence with Physical boundaries, inhabited by Beings.

     

    Details.

     

    The Milky Way Galaxy.Image.jpg.
    The Milky Way Galaxy.

     

    The Fourteen Lokas.

     

    Bhuu,

     

    Bhuvas,

     

    Svar,

     

    Mahas,

     

    Jana,

     

    Tapa and

     

    Satya .

     

    And The Seven Paatalas (lower worlds) are:

     

    Atala,

     

    Vitala,

     

    Sutala,

     

    Rasaataala,

     

    Talatala,

     

    Mahaatala and

     

    Paatala.

     

    1.Bhu Loka

     

    Vishnu Purana: Chapter 7:- Wherever earthy substance exists, which may be traversed by the feet, that constitutes the sphere of the earth (Bhu Loka), the dimensions of which I have already recounted to you.

    Amongst the 14 worlds thus mentioned, the 7th one viz. Bhu-loka is  Earth..

    ‘Bhu’ means ‘Earth’ and ‘loka’ means the surface of planet Earth, where we live.

    2.Bhuvar Loka.

    Vishnu Purana: Chapter 7:- The region that extends from the earth to the sun, in which the Siddhas and other celestial beings move, is the atmospheric sphere (Bhuvar Loka), which also I have described.

     

    Bhuvar-loka is identified with Earth’s atmosphere and sometimes with the space which is in the immediate neighborhood of Earth.

     

     

    In other words Bhuvarloka is the near-Earth space including Earth’s atmosphere.

     

    This is the region were all the aircrafts fly and where all the artificial-satellites and space-stations that orbit around the Earth are situated.

     

    This region canbre equated to the Geospace, the space dominated by Earth’s magnetic field.

     

     

    3.Suvar Loka.

     

    Vishnu Purana: Chapter 7:- The interval between the sun and Dhruva, extending fourteen hundred thousand leagues, is called by those who are acquainted with the system of the universe the heavenly sphere (Suvar Loka)

    Suvar-loka (alternatively Swar-loka) is beyond Bhuvarloka.

    Some description makes it a planet inhabited by the Devaswith their king Indra.

    Some references make it equivalent to the Swarga

    Some Puranic references equate Suvarloka to the Solar System.

    As per these the Suvar loka is consisted of nine sub divisions or sectors called

    1) Druva Mandala, 2) Sani Mandala, 3) Brihaspati Mandala, 4) Angaraka Mandala, 5) Sukra Mandala, 6) Budha Mandala, 7) Nakshatra Mandala, 8) Chandra Mandala, 9) Surya Mandala.

    Human beings are among the inhabitants.

    4. Mahar Loka.

    Vishnu Purana: Chapter 7:- Above Dhruva, at the distance of ton million leagues, lies the sphere of saints, or Mahar-loka, the inhabitants of which dwell in it throughout a Kalpa, or day of Brahmá.

    Maharloka is  the place of saintly souls (as per Vishnu Purana) and is considered as greater than the Suvarloka .

     

    Some Puarans say that the souls of the Saptarshis (the Seven Sages of Ancient India) reside here with a watchful eye upon the activities of humanity on Earth.

     

    Maharloka can be equated to the region (Stellar Neighborhood) where all the stars visible to us including our Sun (and thus the Suvar Loka or our Solar System) is situated.

     

    Inhabitants of Mahar Loka belongs to an inter stellar civilization.

     

    All of the 27 Nakshatras  belongs to Mahar Loka.

     

     

    5.Jana Loka, The Milky Way Galaxy.

     

    Vishnu Purana: Chapter 7:- At twice that distance is situated Janaloka, where Sanandana and other pure-minded sons of Brahmá, reside.

    Jana Loka is described greater than Mahar Loka, contains the Mahar Loka, the world of the stars visible to us.

    This can be equated to the Milky_Way Galaxy itself. The word ‘Jana’ means people.

    In this case, Jana Loka thus becomes the world of people belonging to the Milky Way Galactic Civilization.

     

    6.Tapo Loka.  Galaxies.

     

    Vishnu Purana: Chapter 7:- At four times the distance, between the two last, lies the Tapo-loka (the sphere of penance), inhabited by the deities called Vaibhrájas, who are unconsumable by fire.

    Tapo Loka is described as ‘greater than’ or ‘beyond’ or ‘above’ the Jana Loka.

     It is  the world of the Galaxies visible to us, including the Milky Way Galaxy.

    Thus it can be  equated with the inter-galactic structures like the Local Group of Galaxies, the Virgo Super Cluster of Galaxies and the Pisces Cetus Super

    Cluster Complex.

    7.Satya Loka.

    Vishnu Purana: Chapter 7:- At six times the distance (or twelve Crores, a hundred and twenty millions of leagues) is situated Satya-loka, the sphere of truth, the inhabitants of which never again know death.

    Satya Loka is a Loka greater than the Tapo Loka.

     

    It is the first among all the 14 Lokas.

     

    It can be equated to the Universe itself containing several Worlds of Galaxies (Tapo Lokas).

     

    Satya Loka is the abode of Brahma, the God of Creation.

     

    Some Puranas describe Brahma as residing in a Cosmic Egg, the Egg of Brahma or Brahmanda. The Universe indeed can be conceived as a Cosmic Egg.

     

    Some Puranas consider a Lotus which sprang from the naval of Vishnu, the primordial being, as the abode of Brahma.

     

    Due to its expansion from aSingularity (a hyper-massive black-hole of infinite mass and infinitesimal size), the Universe indeed looks like a lotus sprang from a navel, except that we need to consider it as a four dimensional (4D) lotus rather than a three dimensional (3D) one.

     

    In this case ‘the navel of Vishnu‘ can be equated to the Singularity from which our Universe has sprung up.

     

    Thus ‘Satya Loka’ is same as ‘the Lotus that sprang from the navel’.

     

    It is same as our ‘Universe’ itself. It is also the ‘Brahmanda’, the ‘Egg of Brahma’ in which Brahma resides.

    The etymology of the word ‘Vishnu’ means ‘that which expands (vis:- expand)’. The etymology of the word ‘Brahma’ to means ‘that which is big or that which is expanded (Brh:- expand, grow, large)’.

     

    Both of these words (personified as Brahma and Vishnu) signifies the expansion of the Universe (a property inherent in the Universe).

     

     

    The inhabitants of this Cosmic World are mentioned as immortals (ie, they exist till the universe exists).

     

    Pat Two containing the Seven worlds beneath us follow.

     

    Citation.

     

    Fourteen worlds.

     

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