Tag: Marriage

  • Divorced Women To get Husband’s Inherited Property

    Hindu Marriage,Ammi Mithithal
    Ammi Midithal
    Ammi Midithal
    The groom touches the feet of the bride and lifts her right foot gently and places it on the Ammi(grinding stone). This signifies her hope that their union may be as firm and steadfast as the grinding stone.

    Women , not all of them but the self-styled feminists, would like one to believe that they are being discriminated by Men,want Equal Rights with Men.

    They also say that they are not weak , can do what a Man could do.

    In the same breath they expect Men to be chivalrous and give, as a courtesy(!?), to give priority to women in Public, say like allowing them the first right of passage,special seats for them in Trains buses, special timing and excuses for leave in the work place.

    To me if you want to be equal to Men , you should expect to be treated like men.

    To garner votes, the Government of India has gone overboard.

    The Cabinet has given the nod for the following proposals.

    “A wife will have a share in her husband’s inherited or inheritable marital property on divorce, though the exact quantum of the compensation has been left to the discretion of the judge, according to a legislation that was cleared by the Union Cabinet on Wednesday.

    The Cabinet also cleared the proposal that in cases where divorce has been sought on mutual consent of both parties the judiciary has been given the discretion to grant divorce to one party after a period of three years, even if the man and the wife are no longer on the same page. These were part of the recommendations of the GoM on Marriage Laws Amendment Bill which will now be amended suitably before being brought to Parliament during the monsoon session, beginning August 5.

    By not quantifying the amount of compensation the government has moderated its earlier proposal to give a wife “equal” share in marital property. The ministers felt that a judge could decide on the quantum of compensation after taking into account an entire set of considerations such as the disposable income of both husband and wife, conditions like who will bear the primary responsibility of raising the children and claimants on the “inheritable property.”

    If you do not want to live with a Man, why do you want his property?

    Are men returned the favor?

    How many divorced women pay Alimony to their ex Husbands?

    Relationship is about understanding and compromising one with the other.

    If you want to end it, it should be with lock, stock and barrel, not what is convenient,.

    While cases about Men walking out of relationships, Marriages, is widely reported, women indulging in this, never gets reported for the man considers that it is an insult to divulge it and Dog bites Man is not News.

    I know a case, where a woman deliberately pretended to love a  Boy , got married, drugged him with the help of her mother for three years and tried to get his property worth one crore and finally settled for 30 lakhs!..

    If in a relationship, if either wants any thing more than the Relationship, other than Love, Care and Affection, in my dictionary it is, sorry for using this, Prostitution.

    (Desertion , if proved, is a different matter and has to be strictly dealt with by Punishment and Compensation, this applies to both sex).

    The other proposal of granting divorce after three years, even if one party is not willing or has a change of mind, Divorce is to be granted.

    So the aim is to see that the Institution of marriage is broken, no compromise.

    Then why do you have family Courts for Divorces, simply follow ‘Talaq,talaq, talaq’ and be done with it.

    However I am not against Divorces if either the husband or wife is unfaithful , neglectful of the other and embark on cruelty.

    This point is common to bth sex.

    There is a mistaken impression that there is no cruelty being practiced by Women.

    It is erroneous.

    It exists more than one thinks.

    Men do not admit it.

    One of my friend used say that many Men in India go through married Life, because they feel it is their duty to go through it,let me suffer silently.

    In India if men were to go for Divorce for reasons like cruelty by wives,well, about 80% of Marriages would have broken long ago.

    I expect comments like Male Chauvinist Pig‘ ‘Sucking Pig, a Muslim(!?), who brings dishonor to Islam!

    These comments are real and were approved and published in my site.

    * I am not a Divorcee, am happily married with Grand children..

    To me family is the most important institution one has to respect and men have the responsibility of taking car of it, including wife.

    Marriage is not a walkers Association to walk away when you feel like it.

    Wife has to be respected, listened when it is worth not otherwise, to me no compromises just to please, what is in the best interests of the family, will be done.

    There is a Sanskrit slaoka which says,

    ‘Listen to women and children int the Family, take decisions in the interest of the family’

    ‘Do not discuss economic difficulties with Children, Wife and Gussets, they can not understand, you carry the burden”

    I find this to be practical.

    The issue of accepting money from your wife,.

    You take Financial assistance from your wife for the family.

    You had it, you would be reminded and insulted to the end of your Life.

    Ask any man who has taken Money from his wife.

    News Source:

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Now-women-will-get-share-of-husbands-inherited-property-on-divorce/articleshow/21128781.cms

     

     

     

     

  • Choices And Life

    Quote on Life and Choice.
    Choice Quote

    I studied in a premier college with dual scholarship as I could not afford Higher studies.

    I was very active in the Students’ Union and was responsible for three strikes in that premier Institution.

    The causes were just, the authorities knew it, though could not admit it openly.

    I finished my degree as the first rank holder in the University in major(Philosophy,Psychology and Sociology), only first class in The University in the language(Tamil),and one of the seven second class students who scored in English.

    Though the college authorities knew I had created problems, the Chief of the group called me and asked me to continue MA , financial help for boarding, lodging and fees  will be taken care of by them, I could not, because my family circumstances warranted that I take up a job.

    Hence I had to refuse the offer despite their assurance that they will provide me with a job in the college as a Lecturer(Mind you the salary was good for the post in those days) because I could not  wait for two more years to earn.

    I took up a job, went out of the city, fell in love for over three years with my friend‘s( who was around 48 years) daughter.

    As much I wanted to marry her, I did not ask her father.

    in my view to marry one;s friend’s daughter was a betrayal of Trust!

    I got married and me my friend with my wife.

    His daughter along with him extended hospitality.

    As we were returning Home, my wife told me that she saw Love in my friend’s daughter’s eyes and asked me what the matter was.

    I explained her and she admonished me for not having married her and felt sorry for me too!

    (My friend’s daughter , in a fit of anger and desperation to get even with me got married of her own to a non worthy who tortured her and she got a divorce.)

    My wife, whom I loved and love still died in child birth.

    I went off my mind for a couple of months, got remarried , begotten grand children.

    I had choices, at all times,

    to opt for higher study and a sinecure job.

    to marry the one whom I loved,

    to remain unmarried after my beloved wife’s death,

    I did not choose any of these options.

    On hind sight I wish I could have taken them.

    The cost?

    I do not know.

    But what forced me to choose one in place of another, may be circumstances, but still?

    I had chosen what I thought I liked.

    In retrospect, I find it could have been otherwise.

    May be after couple of years  or even a days later I might find my present choice mentioned here are incorrect!

    So a decision is made by one with out his control, though it appears to be voluntary.

    Choice is really determined, if you look at it this way.

    So decisions are made for me and I am under the illusion that I am choosing them!

    True, I feel the pain at all times, I am Human.

    But what is Life with out this!

  • Help Locate These People?An Appeal

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  • Live-In Relationship Is Rape, Prostitution?

    A 31-year-old Magistrate was arrested in Tamil nadu for ending the Live-In Relationship with a woman Police Constable after the Police received a complaint from her against he Magistrate for rape and Dowry harassment.

    What is Live-In Relationship.

    Couples cohabit, rather than marry, for a variety of reasons. They may want to test their compatibility before they commit to a legal union. They may want to maintain their single status for financial reasons. In some cases, such as those involving gay or lesbian couples, or individuals already married to another person, the law does not allow them to marry. In other cases, the partners may feel that marriage is unnecessary. Whatever the reasons, between 1970 and 1990, the number of couples living together outside of marriage quadrupled, from 523,000 to nearly 3 million. These couples face some of the same legal issues as married couples, as well as some issues that their married friends need never consider.

    In most places, it is legal for unmarried people to live together, although some Zoning laws prohibit more than three unrelated people from inhabiting a house or apartment. A few states still prohibit fornication, or sexual relations between an unmarried man and woman, but such laws are no longer enforced. Even in the early twenty-first century, some states continue to prohibit Sodomy, which includes sexual relations between people of the same sex. Although these laws are rarely enforced, the U. S. Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of these sodomy statutes as applied to same-sex couples in Bowers v. Hardwick, 478 U.S. 186, 106 S. Ct. 2841, 92 L. Ed. 2d 140 (1986). The Court reconsidered the same issue 17 years later, however, and decided that a Texas sodomy law that applied specifically to homosexual conduct violated the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment (lawrence v. texas, 539 U.S. ___, 123 S. Ct. 2472,156 L. Ed. 2d 508 [2003]). Advocates of Gay and Lesbian Rights viewed the case as a victory for their cause.”

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    Family Law experts advise cohabiting couples to address these and other issues in a written cohabitation agreement, similar to a Premarital Agreement. The contract should outline how the couple will divide expenses and own property, whether they will maintain joint or separate bank accounts, and how their assets will be distributed if one partner dies or leaves the relationship. Property acquired during cohabitation, such as real estate, home furnishings, antiques, artwork, china, silver, tools, and sports equipment, may be contested if partners separate or if one of them dies. To avoid this, the agreement should clearly outline who is entitled to what.

    When cohabiting couples separate, division of assets often becomes a contentious issue. In the past, courts refused to enforce agreements between unmarried couples to share income or assets, holding that such agreements were against public policy. In 1976, the California Supreme Court decided Marvin v. Marvin, 18 Cal. 3d 660, 134 Cal. Rptr. 815, 557 P.2d 106, holding that agreements between cohabiting couples to share income received during the time they live together can be legally binding and enforceable. The highly publicized suit between actor Lee Marvin and his live-in companion, Michelle Triola Marvin, was the first of a series of “palimony” suits that have become more numerous since the 1980s. The plaintiff in a palimony suit must prove that the agreement of financial support is not a meretricious agreement, that is, one made in exchange for a promise of sexual relations. Courts refuse to enforce meretricious contracts because of their similarity to contracts for prostitution.”

    In the case mentioned, the woman has been living with the Man for quite a few years and now she comes back, after he walks out on her, that he had been raping her and to add spice slapped a Dowry Harassment case against him!

    Siddhart and Shruthi Hasssan
    Image courtesy: BCCL Siddharth and Shruti Haasan have taken their relationship to an all new level. They are so confident about their relationship that they have started living-in to get to know each other better. The couple hasn’t hidden anything from the actress-singer’s father Kamal Haasan and have also got his blessings. When Kamal learnt that the two were intending to take their relationship forward, the progressive father was more than happy to bless the duo.
    Source.idiva.com

    Had she wanted the protection of Law she should have married and registered it.

    Reason is that both wanted to enjoy cohabitation with out the attendant responsibilities of Marriage.

    You can not choose what is convenient for you and ask the Law to come to your rescue,

    Now she also claims rape.

    In the course of her relationship with him, she must have cohabited with him more than once.

    Why did not she scream Rape, after the first instance.

    Because she wanted it and enjoyed it.

    Now that he decides to walk away,fearful of losing economic security, she is calling Rape?

    What is this, if not Prostitution for you seek Money for Sex?

    A woman, any woman, can scream rape after the Act is over, either immediately or  even years later, it seems.

    Unfortunately the Supreme Court Of India has upheld a petition  that a woman from a Live-In Relationship is entitled to the benefits equivalent to that of a woman from a Marriage.(latest case)

    Their Lordships ,in their Wisdom’ did not ask a simple question.

    ” If you want the benefits of Law as applicable to Marriage, why did you not marry?

    But law, as usual, being an Ass, has given an earlier judgement in 2010.as follows.

    1) The couple must hold themselves out to society as being akin to spouses

    (2) They must be of legal age to marry

    (3) They must be otherwise qualified to enter into a legal marriage including being unmarried

    (4) They must have voluntarily cohabited and held themselves out to the world as being akin to spouses for a significant period of time.

    “In our opinion, not all live-in relationships will amount to a relationship in the nature of marriage to get the benefit of the Act of 2005 (Protection of Women from Domestic Violence Act). To get such benefits the conditions mentioned by us above must be satisfied and this has to be proved by evidence.

    “If a man has a ‘keep’ whom he maintains financially and uses mainly for sexual purpose and or as a servant, it would not in our opinion be a relationship in the nature of marriage,” the court said.

    “No doubt the view we are taking would exclude many women who have had a live-in relationship from the benefit of the 2005 Act (Protection of Women from Domestic Violence Act) but then it is not for this court to legislate or amend the law. Parliament has used the expression ‘relationship in the nature of marriage’ and not ‘live-in relationship’. The court in the garb of interpretation cannot change the language of the statute,” the bench observed.

    Their Lordships score in trying to be as unambiguous  as possible!

    Excellent!

    Freedom to fornicate without responsibly is not practiced even by the Animals.

    Sources:

    http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Live-in+relationship

    http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2010-10-21/india/28261410_1_domestic-violence-act-live-in-relationship-maintenance

    http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-06-30/chennai/40286028_1_sub-inspector-magistrate-judicial-officers

  • Time For Brahmins To Change At Least in Marriages

    Brahmin Wedding
    Brahmin Wedding

    Brahmins have been a closely knit community.

    There are other communities which are more closely knit than the Brahmins, say, the Nattukkottai Nagarathar Community.

    As I am a Brahmin by birth, a proud one for being so,I deem it fit to record some unpleasant facts, especially  regarding marriages, in our Community.

    Some of my observations are likely to hurt but some one has to say them.

    I am aware that I will be criticized very severely, for no body is a biter critic of a Brahmin than a fellow Brahmin, much in the same way as the Jews,

    Marriages,

    I searched for an alliance for my son for over three and half years before I got him married.

    I had utilized all avenues from the traditional circulation of Horoscopes to registering in Matrimonial Sites,

    There is a tendency among most of the parents, whose daughter’s are employed, and more so if they have only one daughter:

    That of postponing the marriage of their daughters as long as possible.

    The reasons they cite are,,

    The girl does not want to marry now,

    She needs to be independent for some time, earning well to enable her to stand on her feet,

    The arguments are fallacious.

    No Girl or Boy will come to their parents and declare that they want to marry and ask them to look for a suitable spouse.

    They would be coy in admitting the fact that it is time for them to get married.

    I am excluding those children who come and declare that they are in love with some one(normally with one from another caste: even this I attribute to the fact of parents delaying the marriage on one pretext or another.

    As parents it is our responsibility to advise them the advantages of getting married at an early age, the reasons being,

    a ) If you are looking for the Best looking woman or Man, remember that the opposite side also does the same and each has the privilege of rejecting.

    b) You do not get any younger and it would be tougher to get a match as time marches on.

    And taking  children’s views of not wanting to get married has few serious consequences for parents as well.

    I know of a couple of cases, where the parents have stopped looking for alliances because  their children said so.

    These parents, they are my close friends,took their children’s views seriously and stopped looking for a match.

    Now the boys are past 35.
    They have stopped speaking with their parents thought they stay in the same house and are alright in all other respects.

    As i can closely mingle with the younger set as a friend, this is with my own children as well, I understood from them that they are cross that their parents have not finalised their marriages!

    They are sore that their parents have taken their views seriously!

    Now I am looking for alliances for them along with their parents.

    Lesson- go about alliances notwithstanding your children’s objections and record them.

    If they refuse, show them the records , that would keep them on their toes.

    Another repulsive habit of parents of brides insisting that thee Bride groom must be in the city were the girls’ parents live!

    The girls might agree to it for the time being , would regret later when they find they remain unmarried for  long.

    Children have their lives to led, be it a Boy or Girl.

    Another obnoxious habit is that some parents are reluctant to get their daughters married because they will lose their daughter’s salary!

    This is a fact and I have , in two instances told the parents of the Girls if they want only money they should not have begotten children!

    I may point out a curious fact.

    Please check Tamil matrimony marriage site, find out how many girls’ profile have been uploaded by the Girls themselves/their friends as against the profiles uploaded by Parents.

    You will find personal/friends uploads will be in the age group of over 27.

    The reason is parents keep on refusing Alliances on some spurious ground or another and at the age of 27 or 28 the girl starts taking her life into their hands.

    Avoid this and remember delaying the marriage of a Girl is a very serious Sin , Kanya Paapam that would affect your family for generations, not with standing Sumangali Prarthnais.

    Another issue is refusing sub sect marriages.

    Sub-sects are based on Geographical locations where the ancestors have lived, like Mythili Brahmins hailed from Mithila, Vadamas in Tamil Nadu were from the North of the River Cauvery.

    Some times Brahmin sub-sects are derived from the duties they were adept at. Adigas in Cooking, Vaathimaas in Purohitam,Vajpayees,Somayajees in performing a particular. yaga or yagnya

    Among Brahmins there is no division of States or Languages either.

    We follow the Vedas, period.No differences.

    Let me narrate an incident when I visited Sringeri  and had performed Biksha Vandana for His Holiness Sri Bharathi Theertha Swamigal of The Sringeri Mutt.

    As me and my wife neared the Acharya, the man who normally stands by his side asked me,

    ‘neevu kannadadhvara, Are you from Karnataka?’

    I replied,

    ‘I am  Brahmin’

    The Acharya heard this and asked  me to explain .

    I said,

    ‘ I am a Brahmin by birth, not by Knowledge, but still a Brahmin for my ancestors have been good Brahmins .

    My Mother tongue is Tamil,

    As a Brahmin my father tongue is Sanskrit.

    Therefore, it does not matter for a Brahmin which State he belongs to because He is a Brahmin”

    The Acharya called the man and said,

    ‘Yajnayopaveeda aaki barubavarathra eethara kelu beda,

    Do not these questions of those who come here with Yagnyopaveeda”(Sacred Thread)

    That’s it.

    Do not look for same sects, State, Language.

    A Brahmin will do.

    I observe that people conduct reception before the wedding day.

    This is wrong.

    If some one of the pair dies after Reception before marriage, what is the status of either of them?

    The habit of clapping of hands after Mangalya Dharana, it is prohibited.

    The habit of shaking hands with the couple after Mangalya Dharana  before Aseervatha is a Taboo.

    In Hinduism . the ‘Handing Over’ Panigrahana is Sacred and the hands of the couple are not to be touched by others till Aseervatha.

    Some more thoughts might follow.