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  • Indus Valley Harappan Writing Found Hampi Karnataka

    I have often wondered about the antiquity of the South of India,. called Dravida Desa, the Ancient Langauge Tamil which is often quoted by the Vedas and Puranas and tamil Kings being mentioned in the Ithihasaas ,Ramayana and Mahabharata.

    Rig Veda refers to Pearls, Sandalwood,Akhil( a type of Incense wood),Elephants and intricate silk from the Dravida desa,pointing out the Chera Kingdom, now called Kerala, which was once a part of the Tamil Chera Kingdom.

    There is also this reference of Viswamitra banishing his sons to Dravida Desa.

    Their descendant, Apasthamba compiled the Apasthamba Sutra, incorporating Tamil practices into Vedic Culture.

    Indus Valley Harappan Inscrption found in HampiImage.jpg
    Indus Valley Harappan Inscrption found in Hampi,Karnataka.

    Tamil Records show that Lord Krishna attendd the Tamil Poets’ Conclave, He married a Pandyan Princess and had a Daughter through her.

    Arjuna performed Tirta Yatra, Pilgrimage to South and married a Pandyan Princess.

    He had a son through her , Babruvahana, who was the only one to defeat Arjuna and killed him(Arjuna was revived by Krishna)

    Parashurama created what is Now Kerala .

    Balarama visited the Dravida Desa and worshiped Lord Subrahmanya, worshiped there as Murugan.

    Chera King Udiyan Cheralaathan  and another Pandyan King participated in the Kurukshetra War of Mahabharata.

    While Udiyan Ceralaathan fed both the Kaurava and Pandava armies during the war and performed Sraddha for the slain in the Mahabharata war,a Pandyan King Darshak fought on the side of the Pandavas.

    Lord Krishna  fought with a Pandya King and killed him.

    There are references in the Bhavatham and Tamil Classics that during one of the Tsunamis,Satyavrata Manu, the ancestor of Lord Rama migrated to South and his son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku dynasty.

    The Chola Kings trace their Lineage to the Solar Dynasty of Rama and one of their early Kings called Sibi belonged to Ikshvaku Dynasty.

    Mahabharata and Raghuvamsa of Kalidasa record this.

    The archeological finding in Arikkamedu in Pondicherry and a Vedic Homa Kunda is found with references to Vedic Rites in Kanya Kumari dating back to 280BC.

    More archeological finds are reported from Tamil Nadu linking Sanatana Dharma and  the Tamils.

    Tamil Brahmi script was found in Harappa.

    Now comes the startling find.

    Drawings of the Indus Valley Scripts are found in Hampi, Karnataka!

     

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    The writing system of the Indus Valley Civilization is not deciphered and it still remains a mystery. All attempts to decipher it have failed. This is one of the reasons why the Indus Valley Civilization is one of the least known of the important early civilizations of antiquity.

    “On the goddess Kotamma temple woollen market way there is a rocky roof shelter for shepherds and sheep to stay at night up to morning.”

    The sentence emerged after a set of 19 drawing and pictographs discovered on a hilltop in Hampi (Karnataka, India) were deciphered using root morphemes of Gondi Tribe language.

    Eleven of the Hampi pictographs resemble those of the Indus valley civilisation. This innocuous sounding statement could actually be a revolutionary find linking the Gond or Gondi tribe to the Indus Valley civilisation.

    The Gondi people are a Dravidian people of central India, spread over the states of Madhya Pradesh, eastern Maharashtra (Vidarbha), Chhattisgarh, Uttar Pradesh, Telangana and Western Odisha. With over four million people, they are the largest tribe in Central India.

    “Eleven of the Hampi pictographs resemble the Late Harappan writing of the Indus Valley Civilisation”, says Dr KM Metry, professor of tribal studies at the Kannada University. The professor claims that this shows that after the collapse of the civilisation situated in North-West India, the Harappans moved to other parts of the country, with some of them settling in Central India and a majority of them in the South.”

    My surmise that the Dravida connection with Sanatana Dharma is more deep than considered and may be the Vedic Culture prevailed here along with the Indus Valley civilization, if not earlier.

    * I have noticed a curious fact about Harappa.

    The name Harappa is very differnt from the other Northern town names.

    In fact, as far as my search goes, it is Unique

    Among all the Indian languages,only Tamil has the word ‘Appa’ for Fathere.

    And Shiva was called father in Tamil anitquity and He is addressed as Appan in medieval Tamil literature of the Shaivas and Vaishanava Saint , Azhwar calls Him , Mukkannapa, father with three Eyes!

    Following is the definition of the word Haran, a name for Shiva.

    Intriguing to find Tamil name for God in Harappa!

     

    ‘ hara—just dissipate    *SB 6.14.57
    hara—please diminish    SB 10.2.40
    hara—the attractor.    Madhya 8.143
    hara—kindly take away    Madhya 20.299
    hara—and Lord Śiva    Madhya 21.36
    hara—plunder    Antya 15.16
    hara—vanquishing    Antya 16.119
    hara—You take away    Antya 16.133

    * Refers to the Puranas or Ithihasas.

    Citation.

    http://www.mysteryofindia.com/2014/12/indus-valley-drawing-discovered-near-hampi.html

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  • Rama’s Ancestor Manu Dravida, Bhagavatha Purana

    Rama’s Ancestor Manu Dravida, Bhagavatha Purana

    I have been intrigued when I read about ancient History and Human migration.

     

    It is said that a Group moved from the South Eastern portion, near Urals of the USSR to towards the east, south-east ans settled down in the land mass which was later christened as  India.

     

    This is the beginning of the Aryan Invasion theory.

     

    Another group moved in waves intermittently into Europe.

     

    Some people of the first wave from this group settled down in Spain, North Africa.

     

    Then came the second wave, people from this group settled down area which are now called Bulgaria, Hungary and Germany.

     

    Curious is the fact that the same theory states that these people had driven out or mingled with the people in these areas , like the Gauls, Saxons.

     

    My confusion is that if the earlier people had come into Europe only from the east, it is agreed that these waves of migration originated from Asia,how is it one finds people settled in these places already?

     

    Similarly, it is also stated that the group which moved into India mingled with people in India, from the Sarasvati/Sindhu delta!

     

    Then we have the Dravidas to think about.

     

    They seem to have been here for quite some time before the advent of these migrations.

     

    How and why?

     

    I have been checking up books and the web to find a clue.

     

    I searched the Vedas, Puranas and Tamil literature as these are the oldest records of Humanity.

     

    Based on the information found in these texts I have been able to find places, Temples in the areas mentioned in them.

     

    The Tamils are mentioned in the Vedic and Puranic texts and Tamil mentions extensively the Sanskrit Legends and Language.

     

    There is this doubt of mine, if Rama is from the North, how is it he is Dark, Blue Black and Krishna Black?

     

    North Indians are of fair complexion.

     

    The worship of Skanda is mentioned in the Vedas but not in a very detailed manner.

     

    But Tamil Literature calls him the personification of Tamil and is a chief God after Shiva.

     

    Shiva is extolled in tamil more than in the Vedas.

     

    Vedas speak more of Rudra.

     

    Is there any connection?

     

    Another thought.

     

    Why should the Migration emanate from the Urals?

    Why not from the areas where people have been living before these migrations that too in an advanced civilization?

     

    The there is this unaccountable, based on the present theory,presence of Hindu, Vedic practices, temples and Tamil culture in the Americas, Italy, Polynesia,Middle east.

     

    Then we have the history of Lemuria or Kumari Kandam.

     

    What if the movement started form the southern areas ,that is from the Tamils?

     

    Tamil History records the tsunami, which destroyed lands and Tamil Sangam.

     

    One group might have moved towards the North  , to Saraswati River.

     

    This can account for the presence of Tamil Brahmi scripts and the artifacts relating to the burial o the Dead, mention of Tamil Kings , Lands in the Ramayana Mahabharata and Puranas.

     

    Another group moved into Europe by the sea ‘ spreading as far as Sumeria, and even the Maya Kingdom.

     

    I shall be posting on these.

     

    In the mean while I found a sloka in the Bhaghavatham which states that Satyavata Manu, the ancestor of Lord Rama was a Dravidian.

     

    “Yo ‘sau satyavrato nāma, rājarṣir draviḍeśvaraḥ

    Jñānaḿ yo ‘tīta-kalpānte, lebhe puruṣa-sevayā

    Sa vai vivasvataḥ putro, manur āsīd iti śrutam

    Tvattas tasya sutāḥ proktā, ikṣvāku-pramukhā”

    -Srimad Bhagavatham 9.1.2-3

    yaḥ asau — he who was known;

    satyavrataḥ — Satyavrata;

    nāma — by the name;

    rāja-ṛṣiḥ — the saintly king;

    draviḍa-īśvaraḥ — the ruler (lord, master) of the Draviḍa countries;

    jñānam — knowledge

    ; yaḥ — one who;

    atīta-kalpa-ante — at the end of the last kalpa,

    lebhe — received;

    puruṣa-sevayā — by rendering service to the Purusha;

    saḥ — he;

    vai — indeed;

    vivasvataḥ — of Vivasvān;

    putraḥ — son;

    manuḥ āsīt — was  the Vaivasvata Manu;

    iti — thus;

    śrutam — I have already heard;

    tvattaḥ — from you;

    tasya — his;

    sutāḥ — sons;

    proktāḥ — have been explained;

    ikṣvāku-pramukhāḥ — headed by Ikṣvāku;

    nṛpāḥ — many kings.

    That saintly king and ruler (king) of the Dravida Countries who was known by the name of Satyavrata, at the end of the last kalpa (before the Pralaya) .. received knowledge by service to The Purusha, he indeed was Vaivaswata Manu, the son of Vivaswan, his sons have been proclaimed as the kings, famous as the Ikshvakus.

     

    sloka Citation.

     

    http://ancientindians.wordpress.com/2009/12/13/sri-ramas-ancestor-vaivasvata-manu-was-a-dravidian-king-srimad-bhagavatam/

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