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  • Correcting Indian History ‘Historical Madness’?

    Followers of this blog may be aware that I post articles on Hinduism the West Christened Hinduism, that are facts and verified,

    Be it the Date of Rama, Krishna , The Vedas,Knowledge which is contained in Hindu texts that are proved by modern Science.

    I do not hesitate to write on inaccuracies in Hinduism,Indian history.

    I have come across two prominently displayed articles in the Deccan Herald dated 11 January, where the main focus seems to incite fear among the Public that the proposed correction, I am not sure whether this would actually happen, though I wish it does), of Indian History as we know is ‘Saffronising’ Indian Education’

    It is Historical Madness.

    “Unlike Nehru’s India as a nation of syncretised culture (ex: “unity in diversity”), the rightist or militant Hindutva idea of new India is based on a known rhetoric of Hindu (or Aryan) superiority constructed from selected fictions and myths contained in ancient Hindu religious texts, and which consider Islam and Christianity as alien invasions. This is a kind of historical madness. It is going to glorify Hindu nationalists like M M Malviya, K B Hedgewar, M S Golwalkar, Nathuram Godse, etc as against secular nationalist like Gandhi, Tagore, Ambedkar, Phule, Bhagat Singh and Nehru.”

    It would “glorify Bal Gangadhar Tilak, Malaviya,Hedgewar,Golwalkar, and Nathuram Godse against the secularisst like Gandhi,Tagore, Ambedkar,Phule, Bhagat Singh and Nehru”.

    I am shocked to read that reading about Tilak, Malaviya and others is a sin.

    How?

    Have they indulged in terrorism or converted people to Hinduism?

    Were they uneducated ruffian politicians?

    Were they not virtuous without any scandal, public and private?

    Did they not speak about out Heritage and pointed out the false history foisted on us,( which many westerners agree to)?

    Yes Godse killed Gandhi, it is to be condemned.

    But does that make one suspect his love for India?

    Golwalkar and Hedgewar?

    What are their sins?

    That they lived  impeccable lives?

    They were erudite scholars?

    Or most importantly tried to bring the Hindus together who were being made to hate their Hindu Culture?

    Now about Gandhi.

    One of holy cows about whom nothing but the best is to be said,

    Was Gandhi the only person who brought freedom to India single-handedly?

    Did Gandhi repudiate Indian Scriptures?

    Was it fair on Gandhi to force the Indian Government to accede Pakistan with disproportionate assets as if India were his ancestral property?

    Nehru,

    What more myths you want to state as History?

    No doubt he was instrumental in building India.

    Equally true is the fact that Kashmir mess is his creation.

    As to personal character, he can not hold a candle to Malaviya and others.

    As to the gentleman, who is reported to have written the Indian Constitution  and a Social reformer, Ambedkar, I have quite a few articles.

    As to people who say personal life is different is from public life, I say that one who is not impeccable in personal life can not be a model Public figure, for it is morally wrong.

    Then there is the fear psychosis being introduced.

    What are the myths these secular want to avoid?

    That Sanatana Dharma is very old,

    Vedas contain advanced scientific concepts.

    I I read in the same paper that some scientist has stated that ‘ the statement that Hindus knew about Vaimanika Sastra, Plane Building is non sense ‘, I shall be replying this shortly?

    Lord Rama and Krishna’s dates have been authenticated by astronomical events and by Archeology.

    Krishna’s Dwaraka,

    Ravan’s Castle, Sita’s prison,

    Axle of Ravana’s Pushpaka Vimana,

    Jarasandha’s Town,

    All these have been found.

    Vedas have calculated the velocity of Light .

    That Alexander never invaded India.

    Muslims destroyed Hindu temples and converted millions of Hindus by the sword?

    That the Taj was built on a Shiva Temple?

    That the Vatican was a Siva Temple,

    Petra Jordan Has a Siva temple,

    St.Peter’s Cathedral’s Courtyard is shaped as the Shiva Linga,

    Archeological evidence has been found throughout the world that the Sanatana Dharma was present everywhere,

    That the idols in many South Indian Temples had to be hidden to escape the wrath of Islam,

    That Krishna married a Pandyan Princess,

    That Aryan Invasion is a nonsense propagated by the west,

    Max Mueller deliberately misinterpreted Hindu scriptures,

    That Macaulay openly admitted that his intention to introduce was to make Indians lose their respect for their culture,

    That the Bible and Koran were concocted stories to serve political greed,

    Britishers , during their rule of India, have killed about One Billion Indians?

    That the Christians allot funds to convert Hindus?

    Christians ridicule Hinduism and at the same time have included many Hindu practices into their fold.

    Making corrections , with authentic sources is no crime.

    So is quoting Hindu texts.

    It is not as though , every thing about Modern science is about to be banned in India.

    Believing this is Madness.

    Citation.

     http://www.deccanherald.com/content/452800/distorted-facts-selective-biased-content.html

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  • History Content Secular Indians Are Worried About List

    There is an uproar among the self-styled Secular Elite of India about th news of some changes that may be effected in Indian History Text Books.

    Mind you, this is not even finalised.

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    Indian National Flag.

    These apologists for Secularism, which , in my opinion, is as cowardly as Non ALignment, are raising a uproar hollering that they would accept only facts as History and not historicised Legends-I can not understand this double peak, Can you?

    What are they concerned about the facts that are untrue and fantasies?

    Sanatana Dharma is the name of Hinduism.

    It dates back to , at  least 5000 BC.

    Vedas are the oldest literature available.

    They teach for Humanity, not for a Group.

    They do not advocate either Untouchability casteism.

    That India is the country which never invaded other Countries.

    Indian Sanatana Dharma was practiced in Burma, Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia,Vietnam,Cambodia,Laos,Fiji,Japan,New Zealand,Polynesian islands,Australia,Middle East, Turkey,Bulgaria, Rumania,Yugoslavia,Italy,Germany,Rome,Spain, Portugal,France,

    England, Scandinavian Countries,Russia, China,Africa, North America, South America and Central America.

    That Evidence has been found to support these facts.

    That indian texts indicate their proficiency in Physics,Astrophysics ,Quantum Physics,Chemistry, Mathematics, Astronomy, Calculus,Trignometry,Architecture, Music, Dance,Ship Building, Medicine,Cloning,Stem Cell Research,Para Psychology, Psychology, Sociology,Botany, Biology,Space Technology, Space Travel, metallurgy, Water Management,,Linguistics,Agriculture,…….

    * please check my posts on these topics filed under Hinduism, Science, Astrophysics.

    That Lord Ram and Krishna were not figments of imagination as Jesus is, but Historical figures whose existence  is authenticated.

    That Ramayana and Mahabharata were not stories but facts, history.

    Puranas are not non sense but a chronicle of Human evolution..

    That Islam has destroyed temples, raped Indian women, plundered India,

    That the present Muslims were forced to convert to Islam by sword,

    That The Taj  Mahal was built ona Shiva Temple,

    That Vikramaditya ruled the world,

    That Sanskrit is the Mother of all languages and is the most suitable for even the modern computing,

    That tamil, another ancient Indian Language is as old as Sanskrit,

    That india was culturally One,

    That there was no Aryan Invasion,

    That there was no entry of Aryans through the Khyber Pass,

    That Lord Rama’s ancestor Satyavrata Manu migrated to North from the South,

    That the British falsified History,

    That Macaulay introduced english in India to divide the Indians and make them lose their respect for their Culture and Religion,

    That the British committed the genocide of indians, some  one billion Indians.

    That the British carted away indian artefacts,

    That  Max Mueller was a Missionary and misinterpreted the Vedas,

    That indians were converted to christianity and are being converted,

    That Gandhi was not the only one who fought for Indian Independence,

    That the role of Malaviya, Tilak,Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel are suppressed,

    That Nehru was instrumental in creating Jammu and Kashmir problem,

    That Gandhi blackmailed the Government into granting Pakistan, with disproportionate assets,

    That Indira Gandhi was a Russian Mole,….

     

    And more….

    All under the garb of Secularism.

     

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    http://ramanisblog.in/2014/12/17/saraswati-is-benzaiten-japanese-god-of-eloquence/

  • Which History Is Distorted Indian History ?

    Self styled Historians, nay Anglophiles have started screaming for facts in Indian history, pointing out ,

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    Rmama Sethu, Built by Lord Rama’s army

     

    “Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s comments in October, that Lord Ganesha was the product of plastic surgery, has prompted the Indian History Congress, attended by over 2000 professional historians in Delhi, to pass a resolution that says “genuine historians would stand by the values of their profession and resist interested distortions of our past.”

    The resolution, adopted during its Platinum Jubilee meet on Tuesday, mentions the Prime Minister’s statement and also “calls upon the members of the political establishment to refrain from making statements contrary to well-established historical facts.”

    Speaking to NDTV, well-known historian Professor Aditya Mukherjee said, “The Prime Minister shouldn’t confuse between history and mythology. In many societies, there are tales of people flying, doing other extraordinary things, but they can’t be taken as history.”

    Mr Mukherjee, who also heads the School of Social Sciences in the Jawaharlal Nehru University, responded to the often-cited argument that Historiography in India has been Left-centric and biased.

    “There should not be a problem if there are multiple perspectives. In fact, it is good that if the discipline’s rigor is challenged but you can’t treat imagination as history,” said Mr Mukherjee

    Indian History Congress’s meet has been in the news for raising issues of contemporary debate. Apart from the PM’s statement on Ganesha, the conference also talked about “attempts to change school textbooks”.   Right-wing hardliners have been accused of trying to pressure the government to rewrite school books in line with Hindu-nationalist orthodoxy.

    Inaugurating the event on Sunday, Vice President Hamid Ansari had cautioned that the attempt to portray “India as a homogenous nation is problematic”.

    Which are the distortions of facts?

    Lord Rama , whose existence is proved by astronomical dating, archeology,your own white skinned people,and by Indian Literature in many languages?

    Or

    The Bible which was composed  by Constantine to suit a Political need,

    Jesus whose real name is not known till today?

    That Krishna’s Dwaraka is found, his date is established,

    or

    The story of some one whose existence is not proved and who says he read God’s inscriptions on stone in Heaven?

     

    That Indians were advanced in Mathematics,Physics, astronomy,Quantum Physics, Chemistry, Medicine, Surgery,Agriculture,Ship building, Aircraft Building, Social Sciences,Astrophysics,Biology, Stem Cell research, …..

    The ever-changing views of Science of today when one can never be sure of what he ‘scientists’ will find to-morrow.

    The atomic theory of Vaisheshika who are far ahead of  repeatedly falling CERN research?

     

    How about these multiple perspectives as these ?(they are established facts)

    That Nehru delayed the dispatch of troops to Kashmir to repel Pakistani intruders,

    That a certain gentleman of great fame was born in a Brothel , his father ran one,

    And another was a Homo sexual,

    That Hyder Ali and Tippu Sulthan  destroyed temples,

    That Shah Jehan Built the Taj Mahal on a Shiva temple,

    He imprisoned his father,

    That Islam invaders destroyed thousand of temples and killed, maimed raped Indians,

    The British genocide toll in India exceeds one Billion.

    I can go on.

    If an ordinary man like me can quote this much, imagine the knowledge of Real Indian scholars?

    Of course you do not recognise them for they are Indians, much worse…. Hindus!

     

    Check your facts.

    Nice to be secular but more important is to be a Rational Man.

    Citation.

    http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/stop-distorting-facts-say-eminent-historians-to-pm-modi-642388?pfrom=home-topstories

     

     

     

     

     

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  • Manu Rama’s Ancestor Migrated From South India 5000 BC

    We seem to accept legends,folklore from the West s History if they are quoted even if these sources are do not stand scrutiny.

    Thus we have sources like Greek mythologies,Legends on Roman Empire,The Bible,legends associated with the Prophet.

    When one studies them and try to cross reference them with archeological findings,astronomical phenomenon one comes with a near blank.

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    Lord Rama

    For instance, take the case of the Bible.

    It the legends in the Bible are true,they should have some points of reference to astronomical phenomena which one can verify,or reference to them in world literature of its times,; no such references.

    Or take the western History of Immigration and Human settlements in Europe,Latin America.

    One is informed that there was an initial wave from the east,Asia, and these people settled themselves in Bulgaria, Yugoslavia.

    Then the , second wave.

    Now these people moved on to other parts of Europe and to Spain, Portugal, North Africa.

    What is missing is the explanation as to from where did these people come from.

    And these people were reported to have mingled with the people who were already living in these places.

    If the first migration was from the East, how come there were people already living in these areas?

    From where did they come?

    For more on this, read my post Rama’s ancestor Dravida.

    But the Puranas and Tamil Classics provide information that can be checked with astronomical phenomenon, cross checked with other literature, archeological findings.

    One such information is the so-called Legends of the Tamil Sangams.

    Sangams are Poets’ Conclaves held by the Tamil Kings.

    There were three such Sangams held.

     

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    The Tamil Sangams or Cankams were assemblies of Tamil scholars and poets that, according to traditional Tamil accounts, occurred in the remote past. Scholars believe that these assemblies were originally known as kooṭam or gathering.[1][2][3] which was also a name for Madurai. Three assemblies are described. The legend has it that the first two of which were held in cities since “taken by the sea”, and the third of which was held during the 5th century BC in the present-day city of Madurai. The word sangam has its mention in the sense of an ‘academy’ in several Tamil literary works like Tevaram, Thiruvilayadal puranam, periyapuranam and Irayanar Ahaporul. Also legend has it that Nammazwar’s Thiruvaimozhi was approved in an assembly of 300 poets.[4]

    The Sangam period extended from roughly 350 BC to 300 AD (early chola period before the interregnum), when the earliest extant works of Tamil literature were created (also known as Sangam literature).[5][6] However, the name Sangam and the associated legends probably derive from a much later period.[7] Whilst the accounts of first two Sangams are generally rejected as ahistorical, some modern scholars, such as Kamil Zvelebil,[8] find a kernel of truth in them, suggesting that they may be based on one or more actual historical assemblies. Others reject the entire notion as infactual.[9] Nevertheless, legends of the Sangams played a significant role in inspiring political, social, and literary movements in Tamil Nadu in the early 20th century.”

    References to Sangams abound in Tamil Classics.Silappadikaram,Sangam Literature.

    Sage Agasthya is reported to have formulated  the Tamil Language at the behest of lord Shiva.

    This Agasthya is not a an imaginary figure.

    His existence has been proved by checking up the fact of his crossing the Vindhya Mountains to proceed south on the orders of Lord Shiva to maintain the equilibrium f the earth.

    By calculating the position of the Star Visaka and constellation Canopus Agasthya has been proved.

    Agasthya’s date by this method is around 5000 BC.

     

    ”

    If sage Agastya was the first to cross
    the Vindhyas from the north, he would
    have been the first northerner to see the
    star. Hence the star has been named after
    him, just as the Magellanic clouds in the
    southern sky are named after the navigator Magellan,
    who first saw them as he
    sailed southwards.
    This fixes an epoch of 5000 BC
    for sage Agastya. This date is
    based on the assumption that for a star to
    be visible its meridian altitude has to be at least 5°
    . If we make 8°meridian altitude as the criterion for visibility,
    the date of Agastya would be shifted to about
    4000 BC.
    The dates 5000 and 4000 BC
    should therefore bracket the probable epoch
    of Agastya crossing the Vindhyan mountains.’

     

    The Sangam dates to 9000 BC.

     

    I found a sloka in the Bhaghavatham which states that Satyavata Manu, the ancestor of Lord Rama was a Dravidian.

     

    That saintly king and ruler (king) of the Dravida Countries who was known by the name of Satyavrata, at the end of the last kalpa (before the Pralaya) .. received knowledge by service to The Purusha, he indeed was Vaivaswata Manu, the son of Vivaswan, his sons have been proclaimed as the kings, famous as the Ikshvakus.

     

    Agasthya is referred to in the Ramayana Yuddhakanda asking Lord Rama in the battlefield to recite Adithya Hrudhayam.

     

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    Shabri is stated to be belonging to the Bhil tribe. Shri Rams’ army, which succeeded in defeating Ravana, was formed by various tribes from Central and South India.

     

    Taking into account these details the Birth date of Lord Rama  is January 10 in the year 5114 BC

     

    This and Agasthya’s date tally.

    Therefore if Rama’s ancestor has left for Ayodhya from Dravida , it should have been before 5000 BC.

    “Manu had many sons of whom 50 perished quarrelling with one another. Ten sons survived, one of whom was Ikshvaku.

    The Brahma Purana (Chapters 7 and 8) provides details on Manu’s 10 sons and their descendents as follows.”(check the Link below).

     

    This places the time Manu,Satyavrata Manu left Dravida Desa, South India around 5000 BC.

    This is corroborated by the end of The  Second Sangam period by Tsunami.

    That is 9000-3700=5300 BC

     

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    If credence is given to the commentary of Irayanar Ahapporul, the beginning of sangam should be placed somewhere in 9000 B.C.

    The second Sangam (iṭaicaṅkam)idaichangam was convened in Kapatapuram. This Sangam lasted for 3700 years and had 59 members, with 3700 poets participating.”

    Citation.

    http://ramanisblog.in/2014/08/09/ramas-ancestor-manu-dravida-bhagavatha-purana/

     

    https://ramanisblog.in/2012/04/05/ramayana-lord-ramas-exile-date-and-other-details/

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Sangams#Sangam_legends

     

    https://ramanisblog.in/2013/05/23/lord-ramas-dynasty-ancestors-descendants-list/

     

    https://ramanisblog.in/2014/12/02/agastya-canopus-validates-sanatan-dharma-tamil-dates/

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  • Vikramaditya Date His World Kingdom

    There are quite a number of theories that undermine the History of India by interpolating in the Indian texts,Misinterpreting them deliberately, as Max Mueller had done,honest misinterpretations and deliberate falsehood .

     

    They are.

    1.Sanatana Dharma dates to 5000 BC.

    2.Vedas are non sensical sound bytes.

    3.The Puranas and the Ithihasas are pure fantasy.

    4.Aryans entered from Khyber Pass, invaded India and enriched it.

    5.Dravida Desa, the South of India were peopled by barbarians.

    6.The south indians called Dravidians were constantly engaged at war with the Aryans of the North.

    7.The Arynas were a superior race.

    8.The Sanatana Dharma was resisted and in fact the southerners fought against them, especially the Tamils.

    9.Hindus were primitive and did not have any basic idea of Science.

    10.Denying the existence of great Indian Kings and where it is not possible, assigning them later dates in History.

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    King Vikramaditya’s Empire.

     

    All these are falsehoods to undermine Hinduism and I have posted articles on each of them.

     

    They are filed under Hinduism, Tamils,Astrophysics, Science.

     

    One such mischief is the date of Vikramadiya, whose existence is dismissed as fiction.

     

    Here are the facts about King Vikramaditya and his Kingdom.

     

    “In the Rajatarangini Kalhana mentions that Vikramaditya, the emperor of India, whose capital was Ujjain sent Metrigupta to be the ruler of Kashmir, which was included in the empire of the former…

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    King Vikramadiya efernce in Bhavishya Purana. Click to enlarge.

     

    The above slokas mean to this effect:- “After the completion of three thousand years in Kali (101 B.C.),for the destruction of the Sakas and the propagation of the Aryan Dharma, by the command of Siva, from the abode of the Guhyakas in Kailasa, a personage will be born (to Gandharva Sena, the king of Ujjain). The father gave the child the name of Vikramaditya and rejoiced. Even as an infant he was very wise and gladdned the hearts of the parents. At an early age of five years. he retired to a forest to do penance,. Having spent twelve years in meditation, he achieved spiritual eminence and returned to his city called “Ambavati” or Ujjain. On the eve of his ascending the throne adorned with thirty two golden statues, came a learned Brahmin and he delayed the coronation ceremony with a purpose to teach the king a history consisting of several episodes, wherein the rights and duties of a monarch are enumerated. Then the Brahmin taught the prince all the rights and responsibilities he owed to himself and to his subjects and gave him a befitting and an efficient training worthy of an adventurous Sovereign. Afterwards, in Kali 3020 year or B.C. 82 Vikramaditya was crowned king. Then he expelled the Sakas and drove them as far as Bactria, conquered the whole of Bharata country from Setu to the Himalayas, and received tribute from the feudatory kings…

     

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    Description of Vikramadiya’s Empire in Bhavishya Purana.

    In the west the other bank of the Sindhu River; in the South the Setu; Badarinarayana in the Himalayas formed the North limit and the city of Kapilavastu, the boundary in the East. These were the limits of Vikramaditya’s Empire.

    Another sloka states,
    “By the grace and command of Siva, Gandharvasena’s son, Vikramaditya reigned as Emperor, for hundred years. His son “Devabhakta” after ruling for ten years, was killed in a battle by the cruel Sakas.”(Kali 3130 or 29 A.D.)..

     

    Vikramaditya.

     

    Parthian invaded Sub-Continent in around 55 BC which brought Vikramaditya Vardhan’s Invasion in entire West Asia (Modern Day Middle East).

    The victories of Babylon, Persia, Turks led him again to the Arabia and sounded the hour for attack on Arabia. When he conquered Arabia, he did so to cheers from the Jewish and Arab  Community, who welcomed him as a liberator. He showed great forbearance and respect towards the religious beliefs and cultural traditions of other races. These qualities earned him the respect and homage of all the people over whom he ruled.

    The victory over Arabia expressed all the facets of the policy of conciliation which Vikramaditya had followed until then. He presented himself not as a conqueror, but a liberator and the legitimate successor to the crown. He took the title of “King of Aryavrata and Liberator of the Arabs, Turks and Jews”. Vikramditya had no thought of forcing conquered people into a single mould, and had the wisdom to leave unchanged the institution of each kingdom he attached to the Aryavrata Crown. Vikramaditya was upright, a great leader of men, generous and benevolent.  He spread the Vedic Culture in the land of Arabia. He also reconstructed the temple of Brahma and Mahesh and placed a Jiyotarlinga there. Several other Vedic Temples were made in Babylon, Persia and Turkistan.  For the first time they got a King that cared for the inhabitants of his Empire. Arabs, Kurds and Persians saw him as ‘the annointed of the Lord’.

    After the 4 year of Wars that saw whole west Asia under the belt of Vikramaditya Empire he stayed for a year in Arabia till the Mahadev Temple was not completely reconstructed.

    He built admirable highways, and developed an excellent postal system both of which allowed him to receive rapidly information from his provinces. He accepted Perisans as Aryans and called them as long lost cousins. During the Vikramaditya’s regions persians felt like they felt under the region of Cyrus. He also bulit several monuments in the respect of Chandargupt Maurya and Cyrus. Another project undertaken by Vikramaditya was the royal road, the world’s longest, extending 1,700 miles. Due to an extensive network of relays, postmen could travel the road in six to nine days, whereas normal travel time was three months. The motto of the Vedic postal service became memorable: stopped by neither snow, rain, heat or gloom of night. The US postal service also adopted this motto and the famous Pony Express mail delivery resembled the original Vedic design. Vikramaditya laid the foundation of Vardhan Dynasty. His empire controlled many parts of Modern day China, Entire Middle East and Many Parts of South East Asia. After his death his descendents and Parthians controlled Iran. By 102 AD descendents of Vikramaditya lost control over Iran and Parthians established there empire in Iran and Babylon.

    Citation.

    http://trueindianhistory-kvchelam.blogspot.in/2010/01/date-of-emperor-vikramaditya.html

    http://www.geocities.ws/historyofiran/vedicera.html

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