Tag: History

  • Stone Age India Information, Sites, Photos

    Sometime back I saw a post in Tumblr about Hinduism ‘This Shit has happened before’ ridiculing Indian Philosophy and History.

    If there is Shit and it had happened there is nothing wrong in stating the facts, even if it is shit.

    Much before the Western Civilisation was even thought of India, under the Name of Bharat was in Existence as a highly developed Culture.

    I am attempting to present some facts and sites for those who are curious and especially for those who have been brain washed into believing  that it was the West that gave India its Technology and civilised behaviour(?)

    For more,please read posts under India,Hinduism,Indian Philosophy and Astrophysics.

    India.
    India.

    The Stone Age the Stone Age in India begins with the Paleolithic (early Stone Age) and terminates after the Mesolithic (Middle Stone Age). The Paleolithic dates back to the geological era of Middle Pleistocene. Paleolithic sites abound in Peninsular India, and are found more prominently at Pallavaram in Tamil Nadu, Hunsgi in Karnataka, Kuliana in Orissa, Didwana in Rajasthan, and Bhimbetka in Madhya Pradesh.

    Stone Age in India began with Early Stone Age (called Paleolithic) and ended up with the Middle Stone Age (called Mesolithic). Remains of the Homo erectus in the Narmada Valley in Central India show the presence of human life in India since middle Pleistocene, which is around 200,000 to 500,000 years ago.

    The Mesolithic period in Indian subcontinent started around 30,000 years ago, covering a time span of 25,000 years. Bhimbetka Petroglyphs (10 cupules and a single groove) is the oldest (c. 29,000 BCE) known Stone Age art that belongs to first permanent settlement of human being. It is found in Madhya Pradesh, Central India (quartzite Auditorium rock shelter at Bhimbetka). Traces of Neolithic period have been found in Gulf of Khambat in India. Late Neolithic culture was flourished in Indus Valley region from 6000 to 2000 BCE and in southern India from 2800 to 1200 BCE.

    India in the Stone Age .Map.
    Map of Stone Age India.

    Recent genetic research of people across the globe suggests that roughly 45,000 to 20,000 years ago, one of the most dramatic population booms after humanity dispersed from Africa occurred in southern Asia, leading to “the highest population densities in the world in prehistory,” explains Michael Petraglia, an archaeologist at the University of Oxford in England.

    BETTER BLADES: Primitive stone axes, found at the Jwalapuram site in India [top row], dominate until about 38,000 years ago, when the blades became smaller and more sophisticated [bottom row]. Each segment in the scale bar at the bottom represents one centimeter. Image: Kurnool District Archaeological Project.

    After studying mitochondrial data from people in India and neighboring regions, Petraglia and archaeologist Ravi Korisettar of Karnatak University in Dharwad, India, and their collaborators refined the timing of this population boom to between 35,000 and 28,000 years ago. “Why this population expansion happened is a bit of a mystery,” Petraglia says.

    To investigate both the potential causes and effects of this population boom, Petraglia and his colleagues scoured existing archaeological evidence in south Asia. They found that whereas 153 sites of human occupation were found dating back to the middle Paleolithic, or roughly 300,000 years ago, past studies had uncovered some 400 sites dating back to the late Paleolithic, or about 40,000 to 10,000 years ago. The researchers suggest the greater number of late Paleolithic sites support the genetic suggestions of a population boom.

    After delving into a site at Jwalapuram in southern India, which has preserved artifacts spanning the past 78,000 years, the scientists also discovered signs of technological innovation at roughly the same time as the population boom. Until 38,000 years ago, blades made of stone flakes were squat or relatively large. But afterward a new kind of blade came to the forefront—small, elongated “microliths” just four centimeters in length or less, with triangular, crescent or trapezoidal shapes. Similar findings were seen during the population boom at the Patne site on the west coast of India and at the Fa Hien Cave site in Sri Lanka.(scientific american)

    Palaeolithic Age.

    Palaeolithic India.
    Local workers sift through Paleolithic deposits at the Billa Surgam Caves of Andhra Pradesh, first excavated in the 19th century. Now, as then, aggressive bees occasionally threaten the excavation. The caves were once thought to hold Upper Paleolithic deposits–a conclusion that an international team of archaeologists is questioning. (Samir S. Patel)

    The great alchemy of prehistoric archaeology is the way it conjures our story–of modern humans, that is–from bits of stone and bone. But the tale of our evolution and migration to every corner of the planet is filled with gaps and guesswork. Scholars have been trying for decades to make sense of it. Much of their focus for the Middle and Upper Paleolithic eras, from roughly 250,000 to 30,000 years ago, has been on Africa, Europe, and the Levant (eastern Mediterranean). University of Oxford archaeologist Mike Petraglia sees an injustice there, which he and a diverse team of researchers from three continents are working to rectify. Specifically, they believe that India deserves a central place in our understanding of the Paleolithic. Their evidence suggests that modern humans arrived there rather early and thrived under some unusually grim conditions.

    The Mesolithic sites far outnumber the Paleolithic ones, and are located all over the country. Synonymous with the advanced hunting, fishing, and food-gathering economy, Mesolithic usually corresponds to the immediate post-Pleistocene or early Holocene (about 10,000 years ago) period. The beginning of the disposal of dead, and the formation of band level society characterized this period. The early rock paintings depicting hunting and ritual scenes are the period’s most remarkable legacies.

    Sources:

    http://www.indiasite.com/archaeology/

    http://archive.archaeology.org/1001/abstracts/stone_age_india.html

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  • Caste Origin Genome Study Misleading Mischievous

    Indian tradition states that the intermingling of people from the North and South, separated by the Vindhya Mountains , started taking place during the time when Sage Viswamitra lived.

    Sage Viswamitra banished his 56 children to the ‘Dravida‘ ,meaning South of Vindhya Mountains, as they disobeyed him.

    They moved to the South, found a culturally rich civilization , married integrated the Veda and Dravidian Customs and formed the Agamas.

    Sage Apasthamba  compiled the Vedas for those living south of the Vindhyas , comprising the best of both the Cultures and gave the Apasthamba Sutra,.

    This is practiced in the South even today.

    Recent studies date this period around 4000 years earlier from now.

    This roughly corresponds to the beginning of Kali Yuga of Indian calendar.

    ( According to the Surya Siddhanta, Kali Yuga began at midnight (00:00) on 18 February 3102 BCE in the proleptic Julian calendar, or 14 January 3102 BC)

    But the system of caste has been in existence much before the intermingling of people between the South and the North, in the North and South,

    Though the names are different , there were marriages between different groups in the south or the Dravida area as well.

    People were classified on the basis of the basis of their geographical location in the South.

    The Tamil Literature assigns names ,

    Kuringi, Hilly Terrain.

    Mullai.Forest areas.

    Marutham, Arable land mass.

    Neydal, Area around the Sea and

    Palai, the Desrt area.

    The characteristics and specific issues are elaborated in the Tholkappiyam Agathiyam, the ancient works in Tamil.

    Each area had its own God’s,Profession and social Mores.

    Cowherds lived in Mullai,farmers in Marutham, Hunters in Kurinji,Fishermen in Neyadal and Kallars in Palai.

    There were injunctions against marrying from different geographical group.

    So the Caste system is not because of the mingling from the North.

    The Study at best conveys the fact that people from the North started mingling with each other , that’s all.

    This does not mean that Caste has been imported to South from the North.

    This confusion or deliberate misinformation is because of the Myth of Aryan Invasion of the South.

    Please read my posts on Aryan Invasion Myths and On Viswamitra.

    The name Viswamitra appears in all the Four Yugas, or the Time Scale of the Hindus,

    it is difficult to assign a time for him.

    And Viswamitra  is a  Nom de plume, meaning ‘friend of the Universe ‘.

    The name of the Viswamitra as it appears in the Ramayana, which took place in the Treta Yuga, is Kausika.

    And the Viswamitra of Dwapara Yuga can not be same as the Yugas are separated by thousands of Years.

    Unless people were living for very long period of time, which, in my opinion, is possible.

    More important is the concept of Time in Hinduism.

    Migration of Humans.English: Hypothesized map of human migration based on mitochondrial DNA. Español: Mapamundi de las principales migraciones humanas prehistóricas. Zonas de predominio de los macrohaplogrupos de ADN mitocondrial. Antigüedad de las rutas migratorias. Italiano: Mappa delle antiche migrazioni ricavate dall'analisi del DNA mitocondriale. Français : Carte de la migration humaine selon des études ADN mitochondrial.
    Human Migration.

    Read my post on Time.

    There is another anomaly in the study.

    It says the intermingling of the North and South stopped about 2000 years ago.

    Are there not marriages today between the people of the north and the South?

    Some more doubts on Viswamitra,

    “I had some confusion about Sage Vishwamitra. We hear
    about Sage Vishwamitra in many places:

    [1] Much before the Lord Rama came down to the earth.
    (Vishwamitra was the one who build the heaven for the
    ancestor of Lord Rama, Satyavrata, later called as
    Trishanku).

    [2] Then Vishwamitra went into penance with an enimity
    with Sage Vasista. Thats when Gayathri mantra was
    given to us.

    [3] During the penance Menaka comes down and from them
    is born the Bharatha dynasty king – Dushyant. So does
    that mean while Lord Rama’s dynasty (SuryaVamsa) were
    ruling in Treta Yuga, the seed for the Bharatha’s
    dynasty (ChandraVamsa) was sown and set to begin in
    Dwapara Yuga? in which Yugas did the Chandra Vamsa and
    Surya Vamsa dynasties gain importance?…

    I cannot provide you with a religious/spiritual answer, but as far as chronology
    is concerned – here is my answer:

    If you please refer to my ‘Royal Chronology of India’ at
    (http://www.newdharma.org/India_Chron.zip) you’ll see the name Vishvamitra come
    up many times (as you will also see with Vasishtha) because these are not one
    person. They represent an incredible lineage of Rsis going back thousands of
    years. These priests have been mentioned in our scriptures by their family
    names (“last names”) and on a few occassions their first names are also
    mentioned.

    Analysis of mtDNA Suggests a Proto-Asian Origin of Indians

    MtDNA HVR1 genetic distances between caste populations and Africans, Asians, and Europeans are significantly different from zero (p < 0.001) and reveal that, regardless of rank, each caste group is most closely related to Asians and is most dissimilar from Africans (Table ​(Table1).1). The genetic distances from major continental populations (e.g., Europeans) differ among the three caste groups, and the comparison reveals an intriguing pattern. As one moves from lower to upper castes, the distance from Asians becomes progressively larger. The distance between Europeans and lower castes is larger than the distance between Europeans and upper castes, but the distance between Europeans and middle castes is smaller than the upper caste-European distance. These trends are the same whether the Kshatriya and Vysya are included in the upper castes, the middle castes, or excluded from the analysis. This may be owing, in part, to the small sample size (n = 10) of each of these castes. Among the upper castes the genetic distance between Brahmins and Europeans (0.10) is smaller than that between either the Kshatriya and Europeans (0.12) or the Vysya and Europeans (0.16). Assuming that contemporary Europeans reflect West Eurasian affinities, these data indicate that the amount of West Eurasian admixture with Indian populations may have been proportionate to caste rank.”

    “India’s caste system, says a new genetic study, began about 2,000 years ago. The study adds that people from different genetic populations — from the North and the South — began to mix with each other about 4,200 years ago but that the mixing stopped about 2,000 years ago.

    The study was carried out by Harvard Medical School and the CSIR-Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology (CCMB) in Hyderabad. David Reich, a professor of genetics at Harvard Medical School, said that the caste system in India has been around for a long time, but that it had certainly not begun right at the very beginning.

    Source:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC311057/

    http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/sri-vaishnava-forum/183337-q-confusion-about-sage-vishwamitra.html

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/Study-reveals-origin-of-Indias-caste-system/articleshow/21754499.cms

  • Did Aliens Invade Alter Genetic Code

    The theory that there were Aliens who invaded our earth in ancient times.

    This Theory has become alive now once  again with the History Channel showing a series of Videos on the subject.

    This thought gained currency on the basis of references in World Literature  and artifacts found .

    Erich Von Daniken, who formulated the initial Theory that the Aliens had invaded the Earth, altered our Genetic code and programmed our Evolutionary process.

    Ancient Map By Aliens
    Map By Aliens.

    He refers to ancient unexplained relics,monuments like the Crop Circles,Pattern in the earth resembling Airplane runways.

    He quotes extensively from m the Religious literature.especially from Hinduism and Aztecs, Mayan and Egyptian civilizations.

    Lord Rama is explained to be an extra terrestrial who came to earth and manipulated our Genes, Daniken says.

    He also compares the description of the effects of Brahmastra and the devastation of Hiroshima Nagasaki devastation after Atom bomb was dropped on them

    Both the descriptions are identical!

    The point is that the Ancients were not so ancient in terms of Technological development.

    Again there are references to Ape like beings like Hanuman who were highly intelligent.

    It does not mean it is not possible for beings of such nature to exist because we do not find them any more nor the thought on these lines are audacious.

    So were the thoughts of landing on the Moon and test tube babies.

    Firstly we have not fully explored the animal kingdom to prove our stand to be correct.

    Secondly it is not sensible not logical to conclude that these issues are figments of imagination unless and until we prove them to be so.

    References in The Bible and Koran.

     Were a scientist to read that the Quran says that Allah “sent down water from the sky” he would probably not be very impressed with such a “revelation.” Anyone with eyes could look up and see rain falling from clouds in the sky.

    But if that same scientist read that the Quran stated several times 1500 years ago that Allah “sent down water from the asteroid belt,” well, that might catch that scientist’s attention.

     

    The Arabic word Sama’ is ordinarily translated “sky,” “cloud” or “heaven.” But Sama’ came into Arabic from the Sumerians. To the Sumerians, Sama’ meant, literally, “hammered out bracelet,” and that is what they called the asteroid belt, which they believed to have been hammered out by a collision between a planet called Nibiru and a giant watery planet named Tiamet.

    The collision shattered half of Tiamet, making the “hammered out bracelet.” The other half was knocked into a new orbit and became the watery planet Earth.

    So, rather than saying that water falls from clouds – something any five year old knows – the Quran maintains that water originates from outer space. Many serious scientists, 1500 years later, are hypothesizing the same.

    In The Hidden Messages in Water, Masaru Emoto writes “my investigation into the mysteries of water makes me think that water is something not of this earth.”

    Louis Frank of the University of Iowa proposes that water arrived on this planet in the form of lumps of ice from outer space. Professor Frank’s theory is that ice balls bombarded the earth 40 billion years ago, creating oceans, and the same thing continues today. The earth’s gravity pulls ice comets into the atmosphere where they evaporate and become gas. Eventually, they fall to earth as rain or snow.

    The asteroid belt is utterly filled with “icy debris” or ice-water mixed with rock. If one of the Quran’s most basic verses could be so poorly translated and understood, how much more of the book’s true knowledge is obscured beneath layers of dogma, medieval ignorance and misunderstanding of Arabic and the important loan-words that entered Arabic from Kamitic (ancient Egypt), Sumerian, Canaanite Syriac, Babylonian and even Sanskrit?

    Establishment religion and establishment science have both failed to satisfy modern humanity’s need to know and experience our origin and potential.(http://amirfatir.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/et.htm)

    In the following passages from the OT, selected from among hundreds, we see how a correct translation of shamayim reveals the true origin and habitat of the Bible’s extraterrestrials. The NT also contains hundreds of such mistranslation examples (indeed the kingdom of heaven—or cosmic empire—is one of the key features of the gospel as taught by Yeshua). But for now we shall concentrate on the OT that forms the foundation for early Christian beliefs relative to this ancient Hebrew theological view. With the Hebrew shamayim accurately re-translated, the Bible’s cosmic theology becomes quite evident while the unique literary quality of the texts is also, arguably, adequately maintained.

    “Is not God in the height of outer space? Look at the distant stars, how high they are!” Job 22:12

    “The Lord is in his Holy Temple; the Lord’s throne is in outer space.” Psa 11:4

    “And the universe will praise thy wonders, O Lord; Thy faithfulness also in the assembly of the holy ones. For who in outer space is comparable to the Lord?” Psa 89:5,6

    “The Lord of hosts is mustering the army for battle; they are coming from a far country at the end of the universe.” Isa 13:4,5″

    (http://www.biblerealitycheck.com/WingsTreatise.htm)

    So the issue rages on.

    Why do we resort to Alien theory?

    It is because of astonishment at the technological developments made in the last fifty years and it is worth noting that the Earth’s population has grown five times over in just fifty years , a phenomena known to have occurred fifty thousand years ago!(History Channel , Mankind on 10 Aug 2013)

    It is also worth noting that a spate of scientific developments and Theories flowers in the Nineteenth  Century.

    Curiously there is no development of this nature in the twentieth century!

    (Please read my posts on this)

    There seems to be a purpose with which Nature seems to reveal its secrets.

    And look at our technological  innovations in the last twenty-five years!

    Mind boggling.

    Even our biological evolution , with girls coming of age at the age of nine or ten, increased longevity and the disproportionate increase in  the population of the elderly.

    We are astounded at this fact as this process of development needs direction and purpose.

    So we conclude that there should have been an Intelligent Being that had charted our course.

    We can also think that we ‘ human beings could have developed the advanced developments and our histories  might be incorrect!

    It is better to keep an open mind on this issue till we get additional facts.

    And do not forget the UFO.

    Read my posts under Astrophysics.

    http://ancientaliens.wordpress.com/2010/11/28/piri-reis-map/

    Daniken’s Books.

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_8?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=eric%20von%20daniken%20books&sprefix=eric+von%2Cstripbooks%2C784&rh=i%3Astripbooks%2Ck%3Aeric%20von%20daniken%20books&sepatfbtf=true&tc=1376136569871&ajr=sabc

  • Read Misinformation ‘Aryan Invasion ” A Rebuttal

    The Myth of Aryan Invasion.
    The Myth of Aryan Invasion.

    Seemingly reputed magazines, newspapers, web portals ,publish periodically some researched(?!) articles on the Aryan Invasion Theory.

    Those who advocate this Theory conveniently take their references from the Indus valley civilization, form Harappa ruins.

    For them only the Mohanjedaro Harappa is the bench mark.

    They link these with the Puranas,quotes from Pagan Legends, medieval History of Europe.

    One point they deliberately omit to mention is that the  Puranas indicate that the civilization flowed outwards from the Indo Gangetic Plain,not  the other way around.

    The Puranas mention, “Milechas’, those who live beyond the Ocean, The Jambo Dweepa.

    Kaikeyi , aunt of Lord Rama hailed from Kekaiya, its capital being Kandahar.

    There ae references to lands beyond the Jambo dweepa in the Indian Ocean, beyond Sri Lanka, in the Puranas as well as in the ancient Tamil Literature, which is about at least 3000 years old.

    There is a reference in the article about Nadars, a community from Tamil Nadu, South India.

    The word Nadar in Tamil is from the word Naattar’ those who enforced the King’s Will, ruled on behalf of the Tamil Kings  a small parcel of land in down South in Tamil Nadu.

    Whenever Zack Ajmal posts a new update to the Harappa Ancestry Projecthe appends some data to his ethnic database. This sends me to Wikipedia, because how many people are supposed to know what a “Muslim Rawther” means? Well, if you are a Muslim Rawther, and perhaps from Southern India, you would. But South Asian ethno-linguistic categories and hierarchies are notoriously Byzantine, and I have difficulty making sense of them. This isn’t too surprising in my case, as my family’s background is relatively mixed in the very recent past (e.g., Hindus and Muslims, and people of various caste backgrounds), so we’re not the sort who can go at length about our pure ancestry and all that stuff. Unfortunately, Wikipedia isn’t always useful, because the people editing the entries on particular South Asian ethnic groups are often people from those ethnic groups, so you get a lot of extraneous information, and a particular slant on how awesome and high achieving the group (also, sometimes there’s funny stuff about how notoriously good looking that particular caste!). On occasion there are other sources which are informative. For example, Zack has several individuals from the Tamil Nadar caste. I know a little about this group because 1) I have a friend whose family is Nadar (he’s American, so saying he’s an American Nadar is pretty worthless), 2) The New York Times profiled the group last fall.

    Source:

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/03/genetics-as-the-myth-buster-indian-edition/#.Uek1UtJTB5o

    Related:

    http://ramanisblog.in/2013/05/08/the-fraud-called-aryan-invasion-proof/

     

  • Vyasa ,Son Of Helen Of Troy, Lord Krishna Son Of Chandragupta

    We , the Tamils, have a long and rich cultural History.

    And we do have a sense of humor, at times beyond one’s imagination when some one makes astonishing , stupid and brazen claims of the Tamil History.

    Tamil Language Ancient and Modern Script
    Tamil Language Modern and Ancient Script.

    It is true that Tamil is an ancient language, as old as Sanskrit or even older.

    There are references to Tamils, Tamil Kings, Cities of The Tamils in the Vedas, including the Rig Veda,

    I have posted quite a few  on these subjects.

    I have  an open mind, be it any subject.

    I posted articles that the Rigveda was , in fact, written in Tami,Lord Rama spoke Tamil in Ayodhya, though the evidence was so scanty as to be no evidence at all, expecting rebuttals.

    None came.

    While trying to prove that Tamil is an ancient Language and Sanskrit is younger to Tamil, Tamils are superior (!?) to every one on the earth, some ridiculous claims, purporting to be Research Papers are doing the rounds on the Internet.

    I am posting some excerpts and Links for Stupid Reading, as I have done.

    Gems.

    Lord Krishna is the son of Chandra Gupta.

    Lord Krishna was exiled by Chandra Gupta Maurya.

    Veda Vyasa is the son of Helen of Troy.

    Lord Siva is the Slave King descended from Alexander, the Great.

    Sage Vasishta is a Demon, Asura.

    Thrisanghu Swarrgam is Andhra Pradesh.

    And it goes on and on!

    The disturbing fact is that its quotes are authentic but interpretations are plain stupid and motivated.

    Unless one has an in-depth Knowledge of Tamil and Hinduism one can be easily misled.

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    அசோகன் என வரலாற்றில் எவரும் இல்லை என்பதும் குறிப்பிடத்தக்கது. வரலாற்றில் இல்லாத அசோக=தேவவிரத=பீஷ்மனைச் சந்திரகுப்தனுக்குப் பிறந்தவன் எனக்காட்டி; சந்திர குப்தனின் மகன் கரவேலன்=கண்ணன்=சத்தியவிரதன்=திரிசங்கு என மறைக்கமுயன்றனர். மற்றொரு சத்தியவதி=ஹெலன்; அலெக்சாந்த பூர்ணகாசியப்பனின் அடிமைப் படைத்தளபதி சிவன்படவன்*= செம்படவமீனவனான இலங்கைத்தீவில் வாழ்ந்த செல்யூக்கஸ்நிகந்தனின் மனைவிக்கும் அலெக்சாந்தனுக்கும் பிறந்தவள். இவளைச் சந்திரகுப்தனுக்கு மணம் முடித்து; அவளுக்குப் பிறக்கும் வாரிசுகளுக்கு மட்டுமே ஆட்சி யுரிமையைக் கொடுக்கக் கட்டாயப்படுத்தி; அடிமைகளைக் கொண்டு தங்களது மேளான்மையை நிறுவ முயன்றனர். மேலும் சந்திரகுப்தனை மணக்கும் முன்னரே பராசரனுடன் புணர்ந்து சத்தியவதி=ஹெலனுக்குப் பிறந்தவனே வியாசன் என்ற போதிலும் பராசரன் யார் என்பதில் குழப்பம் உள்ளது. ஆயினும் மரீசி=ரிச்சிகன்= முதல் அலெக்சாந்தனின் பேரனே பராசரன் என்பதை மாபாரதம் உணர்த்துகிறது. பாட்டன் பேரன் என இரு பராசரர்களும்; பாட்டி பேத்தி என இரு சத்தியவதிகளும் இருக்கக்கூடுமோ? இவர்களது உறவில் ஒரு விபரீதப் புணர்ச்சியை உணர்வதைத் தவிர்க்க முடியவில்லை. ஒரேபெயரில் உள்ளோரின் பெயர்களையும்…..

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