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  • Earlier Manus Aliens? We Are First Humans?

    Earlier Manus Aliens? We Are First Humans?

    When one reads ancient texts of India, one is to be cautious in understanding it. It might appear, some narrations at least, to be far fetched, bordering on fantasy. However, one would them to be factually correct if the reader spends time and cross check the body of Knowledge that is at our disposal. Most of us assume that Basic theories of Physics in general is enough to understand the Universe and it’s mysterious ways.And the scientific theories we cling to prove or disprove information ,are those that have Application that has its uses in our daily Life. Most of us do not know the advanced theoretical aspects of Physics, especially those relating to Time,Space, Astrophysics,Determining the Universe,Multiverse,Black/ WhiteHole,Wormhole,Matter ,AntiMatter….

    Such theories are found in Ancient Indian Texts, which were verified and found to be correct. One would find the velocity of Light more precisely measured , Gravitational theories explained, growth of Foetus in Womb…the list is long. Please Google search term plus ramanis blog/ ramanan50.

    One such Concept found in Indian texts in the Concept of Time as Non- Linear and it’s Conception as Cyclic. That is Time does not travel in a straight line, but travels round and round, Cyclic. That is there is No Yesterday,No Today and NoTomorrow.Time is A Continuous Flow.Our Mind differentiates this flow into Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow by the instruments of the Mind, Space and Time.If we remove these two spectacles of Space and Time from our Mind, we can not Conceive Anything,as Observed by Immanuel Kant in his Critique of Pure Reason /Practical Reason.

    So what we observe is conditioned by Space and Time.The Observable Universe is not what we Observe. Today, Quantum Physics proves theory. Also the Cyclic Nature of Time.

    What we Observe, can also be Present or Exist at a different Level, Plane of Existence. The Observer modifies the Observed and the Observed modifies the Observer. Quantum proves that an Atom can be be present at more than one place , All at the Same Time. Where they are Perceived determines Where they Exist.And it is not the other way around.

    Nobody disagrees with the Concept that Energy once Created can Never be destroyed.( That whether Energy can be created ,is a big IF.)Hence , what ever we were, what ever we had done, can never be destroyed because all are Forms of Energy, including our Thoughts .Where have they gone? They have not gone anywhere. They are There where We Perceived Them To Be, and We Are Now where We Perceive, We ARE. So , theoretically Both facts, that is what we were, which we can not Perceive Now, and where We are Now are True.Only difference is that we do not recall/ recall.

    Now, to Indian texts about Cosmology and Details about the First Man. These details are described in Puranas, meaning Ancient History, and Ithihasa,Meaning It happened Thus(History) Major Puranas are Eighteen.Ithihasas are two. All of these speak about Cosmology and Details about the the First Human Being.
    Puranas provide detailed information on these aspects while Ithihasas, Ramayana and Mahabharata do not cover these points exhaustively.

    Time , according to Puranas , is Cyclic. Indian system has minutest measurements of Time as also for Vast Stretches. Read The Time Concept. https://ramanisblog.in/2012/10/16/time-non-linear-theory-indian-thoughts-1/

    In these vast stretches of Time, one part is Manvantara. There are Fourteen Manvantaras.Each Manvantara is equivalent to. Each Manvantara had Fourteen Manus,Rulers,One for Each Manvantara.Fourteen Manvantaras make one Day of Brahma ,The Creator,though technically He projects.He does this after 100 Divine years.

    Following is the list of fourteen Rulers, Manus.

    Manu and Manvantara

    Manu is considered the author of ancient Sanskrit code of law called Manu Smriti. Manu is the head of each Kalpa (Aeon), which consists of fourteen Manvantaraas. Each Manvantara lasts for the lifetime of a Manu and hence there are 14 different Manus such as Swayambhu Manu, Svarochisha Manu, Uttama Manu, Tapasa Manu, Raivata Manu, Chakshusha Manu, Vaivasvata Manu, Savarni Manu, Daksha Savarni Manu, Brahma Savarni Manu, Dharma Savarni Manu, Rudra Savarni Manu, Deva Savarni Manu and Indra Savarni Manu heading 14 Manvantaras respectively.

    Each Manvantara contains nearly 306,720,000 years. After these 14 Manvantaras, that particular Kalpa ends. Each Kalpa is nearly equal to 4.32 billion years. There are many kalpas while the name of the present Kalpa is Bhadra Kalpa, the previous Kalpa is Vyuhakalpa and the next one will be Nakshatrakalpa https://www.tutorialspoint.com/who-was-the-first-person-on-earth-according-to-hindu-mythology

    .Of these ,First six Manus do not refer to Earth at all, but refer to places which we do not understand. Paradox is that all of them are also present in some form even now.There is the reference of Earth and it’s evolution in the Seventh Manvantara, Vaivaswatha Manvantara, in which we Are.Here the Puranas describe that the Earth was affected by a great Tsunami and Manu, the first Human Being was advised by a Makara, Belonging to Fish Family, to move to a higher place. Manu meditated and moved from the south of Vindhyas to North, to Ayodhya.His son Inshvaku founded the Surya Vamsa, Solar Dynasty.Sri Rama belongs to this dynasty. Manu’s description and events are described in the present Time scale, Vaivaswatha ……

    Manu References

    4.2.The Shatapatha Brahmana (I.8.1.5) says that a little fish (a shaphari crap fish)  asked a  king to save its life while he was performing his early morning- austerities  standing in the river : and it kept growing bigger and bigger. The fish also informed the King of a huge flood which would soon hit and sweep away his land. The King thereafter built a huge boat to rescue his people, nine types of seeds, and animals in order to repopulate the earth. Accordingly, the king was taken to a Northern Mountain, where all were saved from the flood.

    tamevam bhṛtvā samudram abhyavajahāra | sa yatithīṃ tatsamām paridideṣa tatithīṃ samāṃ  nāva mupakalpyopāsāṃ cakre sa augha utthite nāva-māpede taṃ sa matsya
    upanyā pupluve tasya śṛṅge nāvaḥ pāśam pratimumoca tenaitam uttaraṃ
    girim     atidudrāva 1.8.1.[5]

    [H.S. Bellamy in his Moons, Myths and Men, estimates that altogether there are over 500 Flood legends worldwide. Ancient civilizations such as – China, Babylonia, Wales, Russia, India, America, Hawaii, Scandinavia, Sumatra, Peru, and Polynesia- each has its own version of a giant flood].https://sreenivasaraos.com/tag/dravida/.

    “Yo ‘sau satyavrato nāma, rājarṣir draviḍeśvaraḥ

    Jñānaḿ yo ‘tīta-kalpānte, lebhe puruṣa-sevayā

    Sa vai vivasvataḥ putro, manur āsīd iti śrutam

    Tvattas tasya sutāḥ proktā, ikṣvāku-pramukhā”

    -Srimad Bhagavatham 9.1.2-3

    yaḥ asau — he who was known;

    satyavrataḥ — Satyavrata;

    nāma — by the name;

    rāja-ṛṣiḥ — the saintly king;

    draviḍa-īśvaraḥ — the ruler (lord, master) of the Draviḍa countries;

    jñānam — knowledge

    ; yaḥ — one who;

    atīta-kalpa-ante — at the end of the last kalpa,

    lebhe — received;

    puruṣa-sevayā — by rendering service to the Purusha;

    saḥ — he;

    vai — indeed;

    vivasvataḥ — of Vivasvān;

    putraḥ — son;

    manuḥ āsīt — was  the Vaivasvata Manu;

    iti — thus;

    śrutam — I have already heard;

    tvattaḥ — from you;

    tasya — his;

    sutāḥ — sons;

    proktāḥ — have been explained;

    ikṣvāku-pramukhāḥ — headed by Ikṣvāku;

    nṛpāḥ — many kings.

    That saintly king and ruler (king) of the Dravida Countries who was known by the name of Satyavrata, at the end of the last kalpa (before the Pralaya) .. received knowledge by service to The Purusha, he indeed was Vaivaswata Manu, the son of Vivaswan, his sons have been proclaimed as the kings, famous as the Ikshvakus.

    Ramas Anestor Manu Dravida Srimad Bhagavadham

    Manvantara.Rama, his descendant, after whom Ramayana is, from Treta Yuga.

    Treta Yuga is separated by from our Kaliyug by thousands of years; we are in Kali around 5120; The Yuga which preceded Kaliyuga is 8,64,000 years . Treta Yuga happenes before Kali Yuga.

    Each Yuga under Manvantara are Satya,Treta,Dwapara and Kali.Time scale below.

    One thousand cycles of these Chatur( Four) Yugas make one Manvantara.

    The Manvantara that Preceded our Manvantara is Caksusha Manvantara. There the Vishnu takes the form of Ajith. But no reference of flood. But what happened in Mahabharata in Dwapara Yuga is mentioned by stating that Krishna’ s elder Brother would marry Revathi.

    We are now in the Seventh Manvantara, Vaivaswatha Manvantara.

    And Each Manvantara contains nearly 306,720,000 years. After these 14 Manvantaras, that particular Kalpa ends. Each Kalpa is nearly equal to 4.32 billion years. There are many kalpas while the name of the present Kalpa is Bhadra Kalpa, the previous Kalpa is Vyuhakalpa and the next one will be Nakshatrakalpa. we find in Sri Bhagavadha Purana that Vaivaswatha Manu ,also called as Sraddhadeva Manu meditated in the south and the Cosmology and Details of the First Man follows.( Found in all Purana , in greater detail in Sri Vishnu Puran).

    The present Manvantara alone talks about Flood and Manu, called as Vaivaswatha Manu.Earlier Six Manvantaras do not speak about this. They talk about Seven Eternal Rishis,Saptha Rishis,who are ever present in All Time Scales, Navaprajapathis,Nine Progenitors, which includes Daksha, Father of Sati Devi,wife of Sri. Siva.They also talk about events like Balarama’ s marriage with Revathi,About Vyasa having composed Mahabharata specific to each Yuga ( one must remember each Mahayuga has 1000*Chatur Yugas and there is Manvantara , 306,720,000* 14=!!! Beyond imagination).These texts also speak of temples we find even Today.

    Sraddha Deva Manu is mentioned as having been involved in establishing human race and formation of earth is mentioned for Vaivaswatha Manvantara. This means that from Caksusha Manvantara backwards there was no Human Activity.Yet The Human activities are mentioned/ referred to in these earlier Manvantaras.

    That is minimum 306,720,000 * 14 years ago!

    It only leads to the hypothesis that the Persons mentioned in the earlier Manvantaras , when they are called as Devas or Celestial Beings from a different plane of Existence, when the post of Indra,Chief of Devas is Ex Officio,are/ were really not from the Earth and they were from other plane of Existence.And the Prediction/assertion of events taking place in our Time scale,which was much ahead of them, makes one to think that there/ they were Aliens and they had interfered with us earthlings . And there is a view that Shiva Linga spewed the first DNA on Earth.More articles to follow.

  • Scientists Capture Invisible Motion Of Baby

    Motion, as we know, is change of position of an object with reference to Tome and a frame of reference to a previous position/point.

    If one studies the definition carefully, we would know this statement of Physics commits the fallacy of ad infinitum.

    Any position for this reference should be preceded by a previous position,which means that we never have a fixed frame of reference ans s a result ,Motion, as we understand now, is not Absolute.

    Corollary to this fact is that Motion can or may be out there where different scales are applicable.

    Please read my posts on ‘Time’ and’ Existence of other Universes”

    ‘In physics, motion is a change in position of an object with respect to time and its reference point. Motion is typically described in terms of velocity, acceleration, displacement, and time.[1]Motion is observed by attaching a frame of reference to a body and measuring its change in position relative to another reference frame.

    A body which does not move is said to be at rest, motionless, immobile, stationary, or to have constant (time-invariant) position. An object’s motion cannot change unless it is acted upon by aforce, as described by Newton’s first law. An object’s momentum is directly related to the object’s mass and velocity, and the total momentum of all objects in a closed system (one not affected by external forces) does not change with time, as described by the law of conservation of momentum.

    As there is no absolute frame of reference, absolute motion cannot be determined.[2] Thus, everything in the universe can be considered to be moving.(Wiki)

    Now Scientists have caught Invisible Motion on Video.

    Invisible Motion.

     

     

    A 30-second video of a newborn baby shows the infant silently snoozing in its crib, his breathing barely perceptible. But when the video is run through an algorithm that can amplify both movement and color, the baby’s face blinks crimson with each tiny heartbeat.

    The amplification process is called Eulerian Video Magnification, and is the brainchild of a team of scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology’s Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory.

    The team originally developed the program to monitor neonatal babies without making physical contact. But they quickly learned that the algorithm can be applied to other videos to reveal changes imperceptible to the naked eye. Prof. William T. Freeman, a leader on the team, imagines its use in search and rescue, so that rescuers could tell from a distance if someone trapped on a ledge, say, is still breathing.

    http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/27/scientists-uncover-invisible-motion-in-video/

    Scientists Capture Invisible Motion.

    Invisible Motion.
    Invisible Motion.

    To know how this is being done  visit. http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2012/amplifying-invisible-video-0622.html

     

     

     

  • Time Non Linear 2-Flows Forwards Backwards

    Time Zones differ.Let us leave the explanation or justification for the change in Time zones. The fact is, one in a particular Time zone can only visualize or imagine the reality of the other T Timezone , nothing more. From the individual standpoint, the time zone in which he is placed is the Reality and the other time zones are not experienced by him directly at the given point of Time. We go with the statement of others that other time zones exist because people who live in the other zones vouch for it. But we do not perceive it by ourselves.
    From the explanation of Big Bang theory, we know the universe was formed at the time of Big Bang and started moving forward or started evolving.

    What of the moment just before Big Bang? Stephen Hawkins states that it is irrelevant as it has no bearing on our Time frame. (Brief History of Time).

    Is it logical to say that when we can not comprehend or explain concept, the concept is irrelevant?

    What if it has a frame of reference of time than the one understood by us?
    We can see clearly that we link Time with Motion. Displacement is observed due to change in Time Frame.

    Time is understood by displacement. It means that we perceive Time because of a displacement of object, be it the universe or the hands of a clock. This Circular Reasoning is a logical fallacy. (As we say commonly. egg came from the Hen and Hen came from the egg.

    We can not arrive at a conclusion).
    To quote another famous example;

    if we travel in a train traveling at a particular speed and observe a train moving at the same speed in the same direction, you will observe that you are stationary as the other train.

    But you will have covered some distance. In this case motion seems to be at rest while space has been observed. By this example we can say space may exist independently of Time.
    But when we follow the concept of Big bang, time is intricately connected with Space and in fact is concomitant with Time.
    Another example from Xeno’s Paradoxes:
    1. Let us keep the distance from Bangalore to Chennai at 300 miles (for calculation purposes.)
    If we travel at the rate of 300 miles per hour, we will reach Chennai in an hour; at 600 miles per hour, 30 minutes; at 1200 miles per hour in 15 minutes; at 2400 miles per hour, in 7.5 minutes; at 3600 miles per hour, in 3.75 minutes, at 7200 miles, in 1.8 minutes; at 14400 miles, in .9 minutes. At this rate, we would have reached Chennai before we left Bangalore!
    2. Let an object X travel between A and B.X has to cover half the distance of AB before reaching B, we may call this as C;
    X before reaching C, should cover half the distance of AC, say D; to reach D, X has to cover half the distance of AD, say E.
    We know that Space is infinitely divisible.

    That means X will be traveling infinitely, that is, motion is impossible.
    When we speak of Pole star being 400 light years away, we can only say that it existed 400 years ago, because the light left Pole star 400 years ago! We can not say it is there now because we see in the sky today.
    The long and short of it is that defining Time is very difficult and is in fact impossible.
    Latest findings on Black hole suggest that if you go through a black hole, time runs backwards. If by chance, we were to be in Black hole, will we perceive our present universe as flowing forwards in Time?

    ““In our everyday lives we have the sense that time flows inexorably from the past into the future; water flows downhill; mountains erode; we are born, grow old, and die; we anticipate the future but remember the past,” the scientists write in a recent study in Physical Review Letters. “Yet almost all of the fundamental theories of physics – classical mechanics, electrodynamics, quantum mechanics, general relativity, and so on – are symmetric with respect to time reversal. “The only fundamental theory that picks out a preferred direction of time is the second law of thermodynamics, which asserts that the entropy of the Universe increases as time flows toward the future. This provides an orientation, or arrow of time, and it is generally believed that all other time asymmetries, such as our sense that future and past are different, are a direct consequence of this thermodynamic arrow.” In their study, Feng and Crooks have developed a method to accurately measure “time asymmetry” (which refers to our intuitive concept of time, that the past differs from the future, in contrast with time symmetry, where there is no distinction between past and future). They began by investigating the increase in energy dissipation, or entropy, in various arrangements. The scientists’ method of measuring time asymmetry is best explained in the context of an experiment. In the macroscopic world, where glasses of milk are spilled, time asymmetry is obvious. But on the microscopic scale, because the amount of energy involved is so small, it’s more difficult to tell that entropy is increasing, and that time is moving forward and not backward. In fact, during some intervals, entropy might actually decrease. So even though overall entropy is still increasing on average, in accordance with the second law, the direction of time is not obvious at every moment in the experiment. Further, the scientists show that even an average entropy increase does not necessarily ensure time asymmetry, but can arise in an arrangement that appears time-symmetric.”

     http://phys.org/news139830010.html#jCp

    “Time flows like a river but what is flowing? In a new theory it is the forward momentum of light that forms the forward flow of time. Because the Universe is never at absolute zero everything is radiating light waves of EMR continuously. If our eyes were more sensitive to the light we would be able to see this universal process. This process is totally universal and interactive; from the largest object to the smallest creature will slow the rate that time flows forming a curvature of spacetime relative to its own energy forming the future of its own evolutionary path. We have a universal process of spherical 4π symmetry forming and breaking that forms the spiral of life as time unfolds photon by photon or moment by moment.”

    http://ramanisblog.in/2012/10/16/time-non-linear-theory-indian-thoughts-1/

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  • Time ,Non-Linear Theory. Indian Thoughts 1

    Time is a very difficult topic ,so is Space.

    No clear definition of Time has been set as of Date.

    The interchange of the Terms Space and Time is a challenge to the known laws of Physics.

    When you observe the Black Holes  where time stops and runs backwards ;

    when you notice the movement of extra particles in the sub atomic ranges as in Bosun experiment;

    when you have Time Warp proved by Quantum Theory and Mechanics;

    when you find the that the receiving by the earth the light from the Star does not prove its existence, rather that it did exist depending on the time taken by the light to reach the earth,

    you are astounded and you are forced to reexamine your known Theories of Physics.

    Well Indian Philosophy was aware of this fact and it has observed that the .OBSERVER HAS AN IMPORTANT ROLE AS THE OBSERVED, FOR TO OBSERVE SOMETHING THAT TRAVELS AT A VELOCITY THAN THAT OF LiGHT, THE OBSERVER NEEDS TO MOVE INTO THAT PLANE OR the results will not be correct.

    Instead of looking at the Universe from  the outside Indian Philosophy looks at the instrument that perceives these phenomena;one such instrument is the Mind, which also has the elements that make up the Universe..

    Mind is treated as on sense organ(for details please read my blogs on Hinduism).

    Now let us look into the concept of Time.

    Different perspective of Time.

    Changing views of Space and Time along the world line  of a rapidly changing Observer.

    In this animation, the vertical direction indicates time and the horizontal direction indicates distance, the dashed line is the spacetime trajectory (“world line”) of an accelerating observer. The small dots are arbitrary events in spacetime that are stationary relative to each other. The events passing the two diagonal lines in the lower half of the picture (the past light cone of the observer) are those that are visible to the observer.

     

    Galilean transformation
    Galilean transformation (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

     

    World Line Change.

    The slope of the world line (deviation from being vertical) gives the relative velocity to the observer. Note how the view of spacetime changes when the observer accelerates. In particular, absolute time is a concept not applicable in Lorentz’s spacetime: events move up-and-down in the figure depending on the acceleration of the observer.

    Indian Philosophy recognizes the limitations of human mind and abilities. It knows that one is restricted by space and time, which does not afford him the luxury of understanding things as they are. Any perception or understanding is conditioned by the twin spectacles of Space and Time (Immanuel Kant in Critique of Pure Reason.)

    To understand things as they are is beyond human ability. Let us say that we want to know whether there are any particles that travel at a higher velocity than light. (It has been proved theoretically that they exist).If we want to prove them by direct experience rather than inference, we need to be in motion in tune with the particle traveling faster than the velocity of light (Einstein circumvented this problem by theorizing that if an object were to travel at a higher velocity than that of light, it would no longer remain matter. (Theory of Relativity.)

    Imagine, we travel at a higher velocity than the velocity of light, not withstanding the fact that we may no longer remain as matter, what happens?
    We may be able to observe the particle traveling at a higher velocity than light. But, in the process of observing this phenomenon, we no longer remain in our normal original state. That is to say we have changed our plane of existence to that of the object traveling at a higher velocity.
    This means to understand, in the realms of Higher Physics, if one needs to observe things of a different coordinates, one needs to move to the same level of existence.
    That is to say our existence coordinates or parameters vary. This leads to different level of Time as this involves motion at a higher velocity than the one we are in. This admits the differentiation of time, determined by two factors-the point from which one observes and the point at which the observable exists. In short to understand higher velocities one needs to be at the same velocity to observe in real-time.

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