Pallavas(including Bodhi Dharman of Ezham Arivu) are not Tamils.

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The much hyped Tamil filmEzham Arivu‘ talks about a Pallava Prince,Bodhi Dharman, who goes to China,teaches them martial arts and indigenous medicine and he is revered as a God in the Shaolin Temple in China.

In the euphoria surrounding the legend people do not seem to have bothered to check History.

Pallavas are an off shoot of Andhra Dynasty.

Simha Vishnu of the Dynasty founded the Pallava Kingdom in Tamil Nadu with Kanchipuram as his Capital.

To claim others success as one’s own is reprehensible whether it is by an individual or by an ethnic community.

There are innumerous  instances of facts where people of Tamil origin scaled great heights and set a standard for the world to follow.

In fact the Ramayana and the Mahabharata speaks highly of the great King Udiyan Chralaathan, also called ‘Perunchotru Udiyan’ for he fed both the Pandava and Kaurava Armies during the Mahabharata war.

These Epics also speak of the Chola and Pandya Kings and Arjuna is reported to have married a Pandya princess.

They also speak of the wealth and culture of Tamils.

‘Dravida’ is a name ascribed to Tamil people who were inhabitants of the area south of the Vindhyaas, extending up to  and including Australia.

Sage Viswamitra banished his sons away to this area, thinking that this area was inhabited by barbarians.

His sons and their progeny found this place to be far superior in Culture than Vedic culture and hence they combined the best of the Vedas and practices of the Tamils and evolved a compendium to be followed by people who live South of Vindhyaas.

This is ‘Aapasthamba Sutra’ which is followed by Brahmins even today.( Aapasthamba compiled it)

We have Sangam Literature and Thirukkural, among many other things,

To bask in false glory does not add lustre to Tamils or Tamil language

References.

  Google Books.

The Pallavas

By Gabriel Jouveau-Dubreuilhttp://books.google.co.in/books?id=6o9XCT3XiaMC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Pallavas&hl=en&ei=2urITqGVE4qzrAfT_oykDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Pallavas&f=false

The Pallava dynasty(Tamil: பல்லவர்) was a dynasty of South India which ruled the northern Tamil Nadu region and the southern Andhra Pradeshregion with their capital at Kanchipuram. They had established themselves as a notable rising power in the region between 275–350 AD.

After a careful study of Pallava genealogy with all the available material, of no less than 45 inscriptions, Rev H Heras put forth the theory that there was an unbroken line of Pallava kings, twenty-four of them in number, who originally ruled at some city of the Telugu country, possibly at Dasanapura, which the Darsi copper plates state as their adhisthana.[1] Dasanapura has been identified as Darsi, in Nellore district.[2][3] The Pallavas were at first a Tamil power.[4] The earliest inscriptions of the Pallavas were found in the districts of BellaryGuntur and Nellore.[5]

The Pallavas captured Kanchipuram from the Cholas as recorded in the Velurpalaiyam plates, around the reign of the fifth king of the Pallava line Kumaravishnu I. Thereafter Kanchipuram figures in inscriptions as the capital of the Pallavas. The Cholas drove the Pallavas away from Kanchipuram in the mid-4th century AD, in the reign of Vishugopa, the tenth king of the Pallava line. The Pallavas re-captured Kanchipuram in the mid-6th century, possibly in the reign of Simhavishnu, the fourteenth king of the Pallava line, whom the Kasakudi plates state as “the lion of the earth”. Thereafter the Pallavas held on to Kanchipuram till the 9th century AD, with the last king having been Vijaya-Nripatungavarman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallava_dynasty

References to Tamils in Mahabharat.

I have selected the version of “Mahabharatha” translated into English Prose by “Mr Kisari Mohan Ganguli” from the original Sanskrit Text of Sage Viysa, and published by Munshiram Manoharlal Publishers (Pvt) Ltd, New Delhi, India, from which the following have been extracted.

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[1] “…….Dhritarashtra (i.ee.Thiritarasra) said, ‘Hear O Sanjaya the celestial feats of Vasudeva feats that Govinda achieved and the like of which no otheer person hath ever been able to achieve……The mighty Krishna also slew the valiant king of Chedis…….all these he vanquished in battle. The Avantis……the Cholas, the Pandyas……as also Sakas, and the Yavanas with followers were all vanquished by him ……..’

MAHABHARATHA – DRONA PARVA, PAGE 23.

<u>Observation</u>:

From the above it is noted that Lord Krishna defeated the Cholas and Pandyas in a battle prior to Baratha war .

[2] “……..When that host was being thus struck and slain by heroic warriors, the Parthas headed by Vrikodara advance against us. They consisted of Dhrishtayumna and Sikhandin, and the five sons of Draupadi, and the Prabhadrakes, and Satyaki, and Chekitana with the Dravida forces, and the Pandyas, the Cholas, and the Keralas, surrounded by a mighty array, all possessed of broad chests, long arms, tall statures an large eyes. Decked with ornaments, possessed of red teeth, endued with the prowess of infuriate elephants, attired in robes of diverse colours, smeared with powere scents, armed with swords and nooses, capable of restraining mightty elephants, companions in death, and never eserting one other, equipped with quivers, bearing bows adorne with long locks, an agreeable in speech were the combatants of the infantry files led by Sayaki, belonging to Andhra tribe, retinue with fierce forms and great energy. Other brave warriors such as the Chedis, the Panchalas, the Kaikayas, the Karushas, the Kosalas, the Kanchis, and the Maghadhas also rushed forward……..”

MAHABHARATHA – KARNA PARVA, PAGE 25. KULUTAS PAGE 26

<u>Observation: </u>

From the above it is very clear Pandyas, Cholas, Keralas who were the Cheras, the Kanchis undoubtedly the Thondaimandala kings whose capital was at Kanchi. all fought on the side of the Pandavas. The above also describes of the warriors from the Tamil countries, their forces, valour, and armoury.

[3] “…….I behold the Ganga, the Satudru, the Sita, the Yamuna, and the Kausiki, the Charmanwati, the Vetravati, the Chandrabaga, the Saraswati, the Sindhu, the Vipasa, and the Godavari, the Vaswokasara, the Nalini and the Narmada, the Tamara, and the Venna also of delightful current and sacred waters, the Suvenna, the Krishna-venna, the Irama,and the Mahanadi, the Vitasti, O great king and that large river Cavery, the one also O tiger ! among men the Visalya and the Kimpuna also……”

MAHABHARATHA – BY K.M.GANGULI, VANAPARVA, PAGE 381

<u>Observation: </u>

From the above it is noted that in the days of Mahabaratha the river Cavery river would have been very wide with more flow of water as the pronoun “large river” is only used to river Cavery, when many of the other rivers of India was being referred simply as rivers in Mahabaratha.

[4] “Markandeya said `O bull of the Bharata race even Rama suffered unparalled misery, for the evil minded Ravana king of Rakshasas, having recourse to deceit and overpowering the vulture Jatayu forcibly carried away his wife Sita from his asylum in the woods. Indeed Rama with the help of Sugriva brought her back, constructing a bridge across the sea, and consuming Lanka with his keen-edged arrows……..”

http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthread.php?1018-References-to-Tamil-Dynasties-Countries-in-Mahabharatha

Tamil is pre-sanskritic.

http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthread.php?1018-References-to-Tamil-Dynasties-Countries-in-Mahabharatha

The smile of Murugan on Tamil Literature of South India.

By Kamil Zvelebil

The Culture Of India.

By Educational Britannica Educational

33 thoughts on “Pallavas(including Bodhi Dharman of Ezham Arivu) are not Tamils.”



  1. https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.jsYes, Pallavas are non-Tamils , but they using Tamil and Sanskrit only in TN. Bodhidharma learner martial arts from Tamil ethnics.
    Originally his Martial arts was founded by Trinity kings of Tamizhnadu.
    Cheras, Cholas and Pandiyas are originally Tamils. That’s enough.
    Cheras are ruled Keralam. But they aren’t Malayalees. Originally Malayalam also Tamil. Malayalees speaking Sanskrit influenced Tamil.
    Cholas are Originally Tamilians. Some peoples claims cholas are originally Telugu. But First chola appearsed in Tamilnadu. In Kumari kandam period there is no Telugu in the world.
    At the time Pandiyas ruled Kumari nadu. First Sangam also helded in Kumari kandam. Kumari kandam wasn’t Lemuria.


  2. I find nothing irrational about your argument, but to see that most of them trash talking on your article is hilarious.


  3. i want say that all south languages are derived from tamil ..tamil language was origined from limuria before 20000 years ago that is the birth place of tamil…Indian government approved that tamil is the most ancient language of india …we have great literature like thirukural which cannot be written by no one in world except a tamilian it is translated and studied in all countries and in all states of india also we have great architecture skills like chithambram temple thajnai periya kovil which say about our pride …if you research you can find the truth .recently Egypt and Thailand hav found tamil sculpture in their country say about our ancient travelers have done business on those days…we Dont live in false stories tamil is our identity we are proud to say as tamilian more than a indian…tamil is on 14 place of worlds highly spoken language were all our indian languages stands after 25 …


    1. I have written articles on the aspects you have written about.Please check under Tamils in the site or Google Tamil/Tamils ramanan50.What irrittaes is the arrogance and condescending attitude ofsome Tamil fanatics towards other Langauges.That’s Tamils undoing.My mother tonge is Tamil.Regds

      1. Ragu Nandhan's avatar
        Ragu Nandhan

        Sir please have a Look at my answer for who were Cholas:https://qr.ae/pGGd4q
        Anyway it’s informative that you’ve included Mahabharata mentions. Can I use it for other purposes? Its really sad to see the world ignores the Tamil caste Vanniyar or Palli. Its really said because the descent of Chola and Pallavas are living in Tamil Nadu but Ignored. And some shaming Tamil caste Vanniyar or Vanniyar kula Kshatriyar in Tamil Nadu or Agni kula Kshatriyar in Andhra or Sambu kula Kshatriyar in Mysore using Palli or பள்ளி but Pallipedam or Palli kattil itself refers to Kings throne.
        All I have included in my answer please refer.


  4. Pallavas may not be a complete tamil or telugu or any south indian races. They may be belong to Ancient naga people. pallavas may be a mixed dynasty of naga and chola.

  5. chellapandian's avatar
    chellapandian

    really if you read the history with proper evidences tamilians were never been kings.all were telugus and kannadagas.10000 (ten thousand year old temple ankgorewat temple built by telugu kings and kannada kings

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