Tag: Thiruvalluvar Christian

  • Forging Thirukkural By Christians ,How It was Executed

    Forging Thirukkural By Christians ,How It was Executed

    I have in my earlier article shown how Christianity tried to forge Thirukkural, a great Tamil work dating back to 2000 years, and the people behind the attempt, Arch.Bishop Arulappa and John Ganesh were exposed by the court and Ganesh was punished.Here I shall share information received from my friend Sri.Trisakthi Sunderraman on how the fraud was perpetrated.

    The biggest fraud Santhome Church tried to pull with Arch Bishop Arulappa and John Ganesh.

    The case has been closed. And the dramatis personae prefer to maintain a studied silence. For fear that a post-mortem would reveal hidden cadavers in their cupboards.
    For even a superficial examination of the fraud that shook the foundations of the Catholic Church in Madras in the late seventies and early eighties indicates that a lot of embarrassing details have been swept under the mat.
    The infamous scandal had to be pieced together from court

    records, police files and the ramblings of the main character. As the Arch Bishop was ill with cardiac problems.
    It all began in the early seventies. Ganesh Iyer, who had adopted the Christian faith and was a self-styled Bible preacher known as John Ganesh.
    He is reported to have presented himself to Father Micheal of Tamil Illakiya Kazhakam as Dr.John Ganesh, professor of philosophy and comparative religions at the Banaras university,and recently returned from Jammu and Kashmir where he was involved in research on Christianity here
    Michael put him on to another priest, Father Mariadas of Sriviliputhur.

    John Ganesh impressed Maridas,by his xian knowledge and showing him pics of palm leaf writings and copper plate
    Inscriptions several centuries old.
    Maridas funded 22,000 to Ganesh to research on these and when he ran out of money, enters Arch Bishop Arulappa of Santhome church.

    Arulappa was a Tamil scholar and had authored several texts, he also knew sanskrit. He had studied Thirukural extensively.
    A.Bishop held the view that St. Thomas, before his martyrdom on a hill near Madras, now called St. Thomas Mount, met Tiruvalluvar and influenced the bard to the extent of converting him to the nascent faith.

    In 1975-76, John Ganesh began his research. And archbishop with funds
    The archbishop had planned minutely how this was to be done. It was simple but ingenious.

    Simply brilliant, if perverted. He made Ganesh cut brown paper into long strips– irregular and uneven like ancient palm frond scroll.He then wrote whatever he was asked to on these strips.
    Ganesh adopted a scrawl that was similar to ancient writings – often indecipherable. And the style of language was also lifted from the past.

    Laborious and involved. These strips of brown paper were then pasted with glue on white cardboard and then photographed
    The photo print looked exactly like a photograph of ancient palm frond scrolls. The archbishop intended to pass these off to unsuspecting people as the real stuff.

    Both made several such photographs. Hundreds, thousands.
    To an unbelievable scale, entire Tirukkural were written this way and interspersed with Christian thought. 100℅ funded by the Arch Bishop Arulappa.

    Yes they forged the entire Thirukural as Christian text
    The Arch Bishop in 1976 obtained a passport for Ganesh in the name of Acharya Paul and in 1977 both traveled to Vatican and met the Pope Paul VI , and Ganesh(A.Paul) actually presented his fraud findings of Thirukural palm pics to the Pope.
    The press went gala over the findings of Thirukural of xian origins, and the Arch Bishop and Ganesh were mentally intoxicated over their success.
    But Hindu orgs and Christians got a shock and realised the fraud which had been happening, and found out that Ganesh from Srirangam who claimed a bachelor was actually a married man and had together they had duped the church and archbishop’s money to an amount of 14 lacs.
    Investigations into the sordid episode began. The police, led initially by Inspector Seshadri and later by Inspector Chandrayaperumal searched iyer’s residence.
    They unearthed the “originals” of all the photographs produced by Iyer as proof of his research – writings on strips of brown paper cut to resemble medieval palm frond writings, pasted on sheets of white paper.
    The police learnt that the photographs had been taken at a studio in Tiruchi and this led to the seizure of all the relevant original negatives, including stamps of museums and letterheads of various departments.
    On February 6, 1986, P. Aruvudayappan, second metropolitan magistrate, Madras, delivered his judgment in case number 100087/82:

    “Taking advantage of the soft attitudes of public witnesses 2 and 3
    (Father Mariadas and Father Arulappa),” he averred, “the defendant (Ganesh Iyer) guilty under various sections of the I.P.C. and has to undergo 10 months imprisonment and 5 month’s rigorous imprisonment under section 12-B of the Indian Passports Act.
    He had been arrested on April 29, 1980 and let off on bail on June 27, 1980.

    What is even more curious is that a civil suit of compromise had been filed in the Madras high court. The compromise decree was taken up immediately after the conclusion of the criminal case.
    This reduced Ganesh Iver’s sentence. Rumors say this was in exchange for his silence.

    1. Originally published under the title “Hoax!” in The Illustrated Weekly of
      India, April 26 – May 2, 1987, Bombay.

    2.Originally published under the title “What Wrong Have I Done?” in The
    Illustrated Weekly of India, April 26 – May 2, 1987, Bombay.
    Reference : The myth of st.Thomas and Mylapore Shiva temple

    By Ishvar Sharan

  • Thirukkural Christian Adi Kavya Hindu Systems From Christianity Conversion Non Sense

    Thirukkural Christian Adi Kavya Hindu Systems From Christianity Conversion Non Sense

    To tone down the seriousness of the foll article, let me narrate a declaration by a Christian Mission volunteer in Tamil Nadu.

    Dr. Jasmine Asir declares that,

    The sysyems of Indian philosophy,Saiva Siddhantha,Advaita,Visishdadvaida,all of these were derived from Ancient Christianity!

    Was there Christianity before Christ?

    And what is this ‘Adi Christianity?

    There is something more.

    She says Thiruvalluvar met Saint Thomas and wrote This is not a matter to be left unchallenged.

    Repeated lies have a tendency to be taken as History,as in the Aryan Invasion theory in particular and Indian history in general.

    There have been attempts to propagate the theory that Christ visited India and his tomb is in Kashmir.

    What else could they do? They had to close it,” Riaz told me.

    His family home almost overlooks the shrine, and he is witheringly dismissive of the notion that Jesus was buried there.

    “It’s a story spread by local shopkeepers, just because some crazy professor said it was Jesus’s tomb. They thought it would be good for business. Tourists would come, after all these years of violence.

    “And then it got into the Lonely Planet, and too many people started coming.

    “And one foreigner…” he gave me an apologetic look, “broke off a bit from the tomb to take home with him. So that’s why it’s closed now.”

    https://ramanisblog.in/2014/04/06/jesus-in-kashmir-his-tomb-attempt-at-conversion/

    And there is this process of converting Hindus to Christianity by Christians posing as Brahmins.

    https://ramanisblog.in/2013/06/12/christians-as-brahmins-new-method-of-religious-conversion/

    There is this instance of Caldwell,changing his name as Veerama munivar in Tamil to post date Tamil literature.

    He wrote a Tamil work on Christ.

    You have Maxmueller,who translated the Vedas in English as Sacred books of the East,who was a Christian Missionary .

    He delared in his letter that,

    “It (The Rigveda) is the root of their religion and to show them what the root is, I feel sure, is the only way of uprooting all that has sprung from it during the last three thousand years.”-Max Mueller to His wife,in his letter.

    https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/ramanan50.wordpress.com/2014/07/03/uproot-rig-veda-max-mueller-the-frauds-quotes/amp/

    Now to Thiruvalluvar.

    He wrote Thirukkural and he is currently dated around 2000 ago.

    I am of the view that he can be dated much earlier.

    It was authored by Valluvar, also known in full as Thiruvalluvar. The text has been dated variously from 300 BCE to 7th century CE. The traditional accounts describe it as the last work of the third Sangam, but linguistic analysis suggests a later date of 450 to 500 CE’

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tirukkuṛaḷ
    Thomas is traditionally believed to have sailed to India in AD 50 (but there is evidence of his being in Taxila in AD 43, where he did not have success) to spread the Christian faith, and is believed to have landed at the port of Muziris, (modern-day North Paravur and Kodungalloor in modern-day Kerala state) where there was a Jewish community at the time.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_the_Apostle

    Hinduism has been in existence for over 5000 Years and Rig Veda is dated at 5114 BC.

    However this is pushed back by thousands of years in the light of new evidence.

    Please check my articles onPoompuhar,Rama,Krishna,Tamils.

    It is sheer nonsense academically and is a sinister attempt distorting history to legitimise Christianity and aims at Conversion.