Tag: Muslim

  • Three Gentlemen Or Three Idiots Of Dadri ?

    India is one country, where under the garb of Freedom of Speech one can get away with any thing, even murder, literally if your additional qualification is that you belong to a minority community, meaning not a Hindu!

    Salman Khan, Shah Khan and AmirKhan.jpg Salman Khan, Shah Khan and AmirKhan.

    Dilip Kumar.jpg Dilip Kumar.

    And if you are a tinsel God, your word is the Bible, even if you have just touched the shadows of an educational institution.

    You can air your views that were a  part of bed room talk between a husband and wife.

    I have ceased writing on these issues for quite some time as they are trivial , it seemed to me.

    But the recent non sensical discussion on Intolerance in India forces me write for leaving these gentlemen’s statements uncontested makes them bolder and as Goebbels dictum goes, the more audacious the lie, more likely that it will be believed.

    I read an article in the Tamizhaka Arasiyal , a Tamil Political bi weekly from Chennai which answers most of the issues raised by Amir Khan on intolerance in India.

    The article was titled Three Idiots.

    His statement that the present situation in India made his wife wonder whether India is a safer place live and whether they should consider relocating.

    The article is well  written and I am writing  this article based on the Tamil Article.

    It is difficult to catch the flavour of the original nor the force of the article in English.

    I shall  attempt.

    ‘ I am worried about the future of our children’

    Said Kiran Rao Mohammad  Amir Hussein  Khan, wife of the Tinsel town Hero Amir Khan.

     

    This, the 50-year-old actor disclosed in the Goenka Award function, alluding to the recent ‘incidents’ in India, which to him and his wife was a cause for concern.

     

    While no body can deny the right of Mr.Khan to express his views in a country like India,a democracy, it is what he left unsaid is more pungent  that is bound have an impact on people who treat him as a demi God.

    He could have stated that the recent incidents had hurt him,

    Stray incidents are blown out of proportions,

    In a vast country with over 23 languages and different practices, these small issues are bound to be and these should be condemned,

    Or he could have said, as another legend of actor, Kamal Hassan did ( who normally takes shot at Hinduism in his movies ,though carefully skirting around Islam or Christianity), that beef eating is a matter of personal choice.

    But the great Khan said neither.

    Well, one can not expect anything better from one who has just touched the shadow of an educational institution!

    He had not said as to which of these incidents had directly ‘threatened ‘ his child’s future. he could/should have.

     

    An honest Man would have.

    One who had a taken a Movie PK where Hindu Gods were insulted, where Lord Shiva was portrayed as hiding behind a Toilet should pause.

    Had he portrayed Gods of other Religions even in a slightly satirical fashion, especially Prophet, would he be alive today?

     

    Mind you, this movie was released by the Censor Board of India, when the much maligned Hindutva Party, BJP is in power!

    When  some objected to the portrayal of Hindu Gods in PK thus, it was Hindus who raised their voice against this.

    Does he remember that One Yousuf Khan had to change his name to a Hindu name so that he could be accepted by the masses.

    He was the Legendary Dilip Kumar!

    Which party was in power then?

    Definitely not BJP

     

    He could have expressed his concern about the incidents .

    .No. he did not.

    How could one who was appointed as the Ambassador was Clean India drive, Swach Bharat, by the same BJP Government?

    Was he not threatened then?

    Was he not concerned when his Hindu bashing movie raked in 300 Crore at the Box Office?

    How come he had a heart to sow the seeds of poison among the Muslims of India, I am talking of normal Muslims, who partake food, functions and even in Temple festivals?

     

    The irony is that Khan’s first wife Reena and his second wife Kiran Rao are Hindus.

    Had he been in Saudi, Pakistan, can his wives call themselves this way, mixing up Hindu and Muslim names?

    Well, if you have deicided to move away from India, which is intolerant, you could have, to liberal regimes like Saudi Arabia or Pakistan.

    Saudi Arabia, where people are killed in the name of Law and Order in Public or by terrorists,

    Pakistan where one does not know when the next attack would come.

    Or To Europe or USA where Islamophobia is ranging, where in the US there is, on an average one Public shooting a Day in this year, or where a Black child was shot dead for carrying a Knife!

    Despite these incidents in the US, US citizens did not consider moving away from the US,

    Instead, they have made Obama, a Muslim as their President.

    In India we revere Dr. Zakir Husssian, Abdul Kalam, Fakhruddin Alil Ahmed former Presidents of India,Nawab of Pataudi,Azharuddin, Bismiilah Khan, Mammotty,Shah Rukh Khan, Amir Khan, Salman Khan ,

    We see them as Indians, and not merely as Muslims!

    Well, if you are an Indian by heat these thoughts would not even crossed your mind.

    If you had a bed room discussion, better keep it there.

    India may not be filthy rich .

    It  has economic inequalities.

    Its roads are not clean.

    Might be there have been instances of the sort he mentioned here and there.

    Should we not correct them?

    Does it mean that one think of running away?

    One does not change Fathers because one’s is not as handsome as the neighbour’s.

     

    Did Amir Khan about the ruckus created by Muslims during the release of Kamal Hassan’s film Viswaroopam , where a scene was objected to by an unruly crowd?

     

    Mr.Khan, if you do not like Narendra Modi, you may attack his policies( Amir Khan earlier stated he did not like Modi or his policies), as Shatrughan Sinha, a BJP big wig does.

    But nobody bothers Shatrughan for he does not promote Sedition and spoils religious harmony.

    You need the claps of Indians , their money and at the slightest possible excuse you want to run away?

    We have another gentleman in Shah Rukh Khan who said that India is sliding back to Dark Ages( TV interview)

    Being secular has become dangerous.

    He has not been able to practice his religion Islam in India.

    How?

    As  when he entered into a brawl with women and cricket staff at the IPL, pitch drunk?

    Islam promotes Drinking and public brawl?

    Part of practicing your religion?

    When Shah Rukh Khan was questioned by Income Tax for irregularities in his Club Kolkatta Knight Riders, Modi is blamed for targeting Shah Rukh!

    Salman Khan,

    A guy who killed people sleeping on the footpath by his drunken driving and changed his version so much that one thinks the  Car was driving itself!

    His movies were banned in Pakistan.

    Bajrangi Bhaijaan for making reference to the terrorist Hafiz Sayed!

     

    How come these gentlemen kept quite when,

    Pakistan army butchered Bangladeshis in 1971?

    When Professor Joseph’s Hand was cut off in Kerala by Muslims?

    Subsequent to Dadri episode Mr. Poojary was killed in Public in Mangalore?

    When Snapdeal apps was uninstalled by over 100000 people, Amir Khan says he has no intention of leaving India!

    These guys, sensitive, socially conscious?

    Three Idiots’

    Translated from Tamizhaka Arasiyal dated 2/12/2015

  • Sleeping Saptha Rishis In Tombs Quran?

    Understanding History is an arduous task.

    Seven Sleepers,Byzantine Tombs.jpg Seven Sleepers,Byzantine Tombs.Saptha Rishis?

    One must remember that when we record our present times to Posterity and if they were to read it, how would they understand it, if the posterity emerged after a deluge ,were recovering and were evolving from the primitive to the advanced level of Civilisation?

    If their knowledge base is limited they would call all our recorded facts as Myths ,legends or stories born of a vivid imagination.

    As and when they advance technologically and culturally, they would understand the events narrated by us as facts, albeit grudgingly, as no one wants to believe that te other one’s superior.

    Sene Rishis,Saptha Rishis being rescued by Matsya Avatar of Vishnu.jpg Matsya,Fish rescues the Saptarishi and Manu from the great Deluge. Image credit. “The fish avatara of Vishnu saves Manu during the great deluge” by Ramanarayanadatta astri – http://archive.org/details/mahabharata02ramauoft. Licensed under Public Domain via Commons – https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_fish_avatara_of_Vishnu_saves_Manu_during_the_great_deluge.jpg#/media/File:The_fish_avatara_of_Vishnu_saves_Manu_during_the_great_deluge.jpg

    Apply the same Logic to our understanding of our past.

    We are the same as any one else in this respect.

    History is a process of exploration and one tries to understand it with available resources by interpreting them with our knowledge base.

    I am trying to piece together such information which has been brushed aside as such by dismissing them as Myths.

    But the evidence from archeology, astronomy and other sources force me  not to dismiss such things as Myths.

    I have been posting articles on these lines, whether it be,

    Tiruvannamalai,India being 3 Billion Years old,

    Tirupati 2200 Million Years  old,

    Sanatana Dharma spread over the world.

    Arabaia was Aravastan,

    Mecca and Kaaba were Shiva temple,

    Noah is the descendant of Manu,

    Vedas ( Rig Veda) were composed in te Arctic,

    Krishna’s son built a city in Russia,

    Russsia was Sthree Varsha,

    There is a Russian version of the Vedas,

    and many more.

    Now, I had through a series of articles conveyed that Arabia was a part of Hindu Empire,Mecca was a Shiva Temple, Prophet Muhammad’s Uncle composed a Hymn on Lord Shiva, 786 is te Flipped OM,Sapthapathi custom of Vedic marriage was prevalent there and the Kings of Arabia were in the habit of awarding bards like the Tamil Kings…..

    Now some ting more.

    Hinduism talks of Seven Sages who do not die at the time of deluge.

    They are the ones who codify which Dharma is to be followed.

    They are Atri ,Bhrigu, Kuthsa, Vasishta, Gautama, Kasyapa and Angirasa.

    There are variations to these names.

    Kashyapa, Atri, Vashista, Vishvamitra, Gautama Maharishi, Jamadagni and Bharadvaja.

    The names of the current Saptarshis are: Kashyapa, Atri, Vashista, Vishvamitra, Gautama Maharishi, Jamadagni and Bharadvaja. The Saptarishis keep changing for every Yuga. As per Hindu Shastras, there are four yugas: Krita Yuga / Sat Yuga, Treta Yuga, Dvapara Yuga and Kali Yuga. We are at present in the Kali Yuga, which will last for 432,000 years(we are in 5106 year now in 2015); Dvapara Yuga is twice Kali Yuga, Treta Yuga is thrice Kali Yuga and Krita Yuga is four times Kali Yuga. Over all, 4,320,000 years termed as 1 Chaturyuga. 1000 Chaturyugas make the day of 12 hours for Brahma(Creator) and during another 12 hours, Brahma takes rest and there is no creation during this period. Thus 1 day for Brahma constitutes 1000 Chaturyugas(= 4,320,000,000 years). Thus 1 year constitutes 360 x 4,320,000,000 = 1,555,200,000,000 years; lifespan of Brahma is 100 years = 100 x 1,555,200,000,000 = 155,520,000,000,000 years

    At the time of the deluge, The Matsya, Great Fish, ferried them in a boat, while Satyavrata Manu was instructed to meditate.

    Manu meditated in the Macarene Plateau in Madagascar,Please read my Post on this.

    These Rishis vary for each yuga, aeon.

    Saptha Rishis are also found in the Sky, The Great Bear.

    The legend of these Rishis are found in Russia as well.

    Evidence of seven sleeping men is found in the Koran.

     

    It took many centuries of persecutions, wars and massacres for the polytheistic doctrine of trinity to eventually prevail in the Christian world; sura 18 reinstates the historical responsibilities of the early trinitarian church by taking us back to the dark ages of the beginning of the 2rd century when corrupted Christianity didn’t find any other solution but to kill people to impose the concept of Jesus’ deity.

    Mathematical signs hidden behind the story of the companions of the cave.

    Sura 18 tells us one of the most profound stories in the history of mankind: The companions of the cave fell asleep for three centuries before God awoke them. How many companions stayed in the cave has remained a historical enigma in the Quran that very few people have been able to solve decisively; I promise that it will be by the end of the article. One of the key questions is why is there so much importance given to their number as such a number could easily seem insignificant in itself? As usual in the Quran, there is a profoundly meaningful symbolical dimension hidden behind their number, and one of the goals of this study will be to decipher it, God willing.

    Why did they stay specifically “three hundred years and they add nine”, as the Quran puts it literally? We will explain why such a number is written in such a peculiar manner, and also show that the number of years is deeply related to the correct number of companions who remained in the cave.

    The story of the companions of the cave is a multiple meaning sign. The signs will, I believe, strengthen the faith of true believers;

    We will first propose to the reader to read attentively the beginning of sura 18; we will then comment in depth the verses following a logical path which will gradually lead to the unraveling what I believe is one of the great secret of the story of the companions of the cave.

    In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful,

    (18:1) Glory to God, the one who revealed the Book to His servant, and has not allowed in it any deviousness; (18:2) Straightforward, in order to warn about a terrible punishment that will impart from Him; and give good news to the believers who accomplish good deeds that a generous recompense awaits them,(18:3) In which they shall abide eternally. (18:4) And to warn those who say: “God has ascribed a son to Himself”. (18:5) They do not have in this regard any [sound] knowledge, nor do their forefathers. Grievous is the word that comes out of their mouths! All they say is nothing but a lie. (18:6) And you may torment yourself in grief keeping after their footsteps, if they happen not to believe in this narration. (18:7) Indeed, We have turned everything that there is on Earth into a means by which to embellish it, that we may test which one accomplishes the best deeds. (18:8) And indeed, We will make everything on it a barren land.(18:9) Why else have you thought that the companions of the Cave and Al Raqeem were among Our wondrous signs? (18:10) Once the youths retreated to the Cave, they then implored: “May the inherent mercy of your soul be bestowed upon us; help us conduct our affairs in the right way.” (18:11) We then veiled their ears in the Cave for a specific number of years. (18:12) We then awakened them to reveal which of the two groups best calculated how much time they remained. (18:13) We narrate to you this story with absolute truthfulness. Indeed they were youths who believed in their Lord and We increased their guidance. (18:14)We strengthened their hearts when they stood up and proclaimed: “Our Lord is the Lord of the heavens and the Earth. We will never invoke beside Him any other god. Assuredly, we would otherwise have uttered an enormity.” (18:15) These people of ours have set up gods beside Him. Why do they not bring forward any clear evidence to support them! And Who could possibly be more wicked than he who invents a lie about God? (18:16) And now that you have dissociated [yourself] from them and what they worship beside God, seek refuge in the Cave: Your Lord will bestow His mercy upon you, and will provide a solution regarding your [current] situation. (18:17) You can see the rising sun declining away from the right of their cave, and once it set, disappearing from them to the left, while they stand inside in the enclosed space. This is [indeed] among God’s signs. He whom Allah guides is rightly guided; but he whom He lets go astray, you cannot find any guardian to lead him on the Right Way. (18:18) And you [would] think that they [were] awake, while they [were] asleep. And We turn[ed] them over to the right, and to the left, their dog stretching his two forelegs at the entrance. If you had looked at them, you would have turned away from them in haste, as their [sight] would most assuredly have stricken you with terror. (18:19) And similarly, we resurrected them, so they would debate among themselves. One of them took the floor and said (lit. “a speaker among them said”): “How long did you remain [asleep]?”They [who were part of the first group] replied: “We remained [asleep] a day, or part of a day.” They [who were part of the second group] said: “Your Lord knows best how long you remained, so send one of you with this silver coin of yours to the city, and let him find out which food is best there, and bring you thereof some provisions; let him be cautious not to attract attention on any of you. (18:20) Indeed, if they happen to find out about you, they will stone you [to death], or revert you to their religion and in that case you will never attain felicity.” (18:21) And this is how We allowed the secret about them to come to light, in order for them to know that God’s promise is the truth, and that there is no doubt in it whatsoever regarding the [advent of the] Hour. When they had an argument with each other about their case, they said: “Build over them an edifice; their Lord has full knowledge about them”. Those who prevailed regarding their case said: “We will surely erect a place of worship (masjid) over them”. (18:22)They will [subsequently] say: “They were three, the fourth being their dog.”, while [others] will say: “Five, the sixth being their dog”, taking a guess about the hidden aspect of things; and they will say: “Seven, the eighth being their dog.” Say: “My Lord knows their number; none knows them except a few”. So do not argue with them except with a decisive argument, and do not seek information regarding them from anyone.(18:23) And do not ever say about anything: “I will certainly do that tomorrow”, (18:24) Except “If God so wills”. And remember your Lord when you forget and say: “May this guidance, O my Lord, draw me nearer”. (18:25) And they remained in their cave for three hundred solar years, and they add nine. (18:26)Say: “God knows best how long they [exactly] stayed (i.e. in addition to 309 years); to Him belongs the hidden aspect of the heavens and the Earth; how clearly He sees through it and hears! No one other than Him can serve as a Protector, and He doesn’t share anything in His judgment.”(18:27) And recite what has been revealed to you from the book of your Lord. Nothing can modify His words; you will find no refuge to protect you other than Him. (18:28) And may your soul be patient with those who call their Lord in the morning and the evening seeking His face, and do not let your eyes turn away from them, seeking the beauties of this worldly life, and do not obey the one whose heart we have made heedless of our remembrance and succumbed to his desires, while his affairs were driven to excess.

     

    References and Citations.

    http://www.ummulhasanaat.co.za/my-itikaaf-journey-to-the-forgotten-haram-2012-1433-part-1  Image credit.

    http://www.quranaloneislam.net/secret-of-the-7-sleepers Text Credit

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saptarishi

    Please read this article along with my articles on Mesopotamia, Sumeria.

  • Kaaba Mecca Is Kabaaleswaran Shiva Rare Image Video

    Kaaba Mecca Is Kabaaleswaran Shiva Rare Image Video

    History  would have us believe that the Islamic Middle East has no history at all before the advent of the Prophet.

    However the rich culture and other practices of the so-called Nomads, (this is how the Arabians pre dating The Prophet were described), belie these assumptions.

    Their concept of Family, Extended Families, Clan kinship, hospitality and valour do not bespeak of Nomadic culture.

    I had written articles on the pre-Islamic Heritage of the present Islamic Middle east, how Vikramaditya’s Kingdom extended to Arabia, His inscriptions are found in Kaaba, Arabia was called Aravasthan,meaning land of Horses, which find reference in Tamil literature as well, the practice of awarding poets being a Tamil Kings practice is found in Ancient Arabia,Ganesha Idol was found in Kuwait,Mecca is a Shiva Temple, 786, considered holy by the Muslims is Flipped OM,Mohammad’s Uncle composed a Hymn in Praise of Lord Shiva,Sapthapathi was practiced in pre-Islamic Arabia and Navagrahas were worshiped.

    I have found reference to Kaaba in Mecca being called Kaabaaleswaran,a name of Lord Shiva.

    One can find Kabaleswaran Temple in Chennai Tamil Nadu and it is quite popular.

    Linga being worshiped in Kaaba.

    The source is a Muslim gentleman.

    He had also posted the image of Kaaba of the 50’s.

    One can see the Shiva Linga with Avudaiyar clearly.

    “The word Kabaa may originate from Tamil and the word Kabaalishwaran. Tamil is considered one of the oldest languages of the world.Dravidian’s worshiped Lord Shiva as their Primal Deity – from the Indus valley civilization. Shiva Temple’s in South India are called as Kabaalishwaran temple’s. Kabaali, therefore – refer to Lord Shiva.

    There are many other words in Islam that appear to be connected to Hinduism. For example, in Sanskrit Allah, Akka and Amba are synonyms. They signify a goddess or mother. The Islamic practice of Bakari Eed (Eid) derives from the Go-(M)edh and Ashva-(M)edh Yagnas or sacrifices of Vedic times. Eed in Sanskrit means worship. The Islamic word Eed for festive days, signifying days of worship, is therefore a pure Sanskrit word.  [Note: The word Bakari is an Indian language word for a goat. Muslims sacrifice goats during Eid]

    Since Eed means worship and Griha means ‘house’, the Islamic word Idgah signifies a ‘House of worship’ which is the exact Sanskrit connotation of the term. Similarly the word ‘Namaz’ derives from two Sanskrit roots ‘Nama’ and ‘Yajna’ (NAMa yAJna) meaning bowing and worshipping.
    Recital of the Namaz (Nama-smaranam in Hindi) five times a day owes its origin to the Vedic injunction of Panchmahayagna (five daily worship- Panch-Maha-Yagna) which is part of the daily Vedic ritual prescribed for all individuals.

    Four months of the year are regarded as very sacred in Islamic custom. The devout are enjoined to abstain from plunder and other evil deeds during that period. This originates in the Chaturmasa i.e., the four-month period of special vows and austerities in Hindu tradition. Shabibarat is the corrupt form of Shiva Vrat and Shiva Ratra.

    The Islamic term ‘Eed-ul-Fitr’ derives from the ‘Eed of Piters’ that is worship of forefathers in Sanskrit tradition. In India, Hindus commemorate their ancestors during the Pitr-Paksha that is the fortnight reserved for their remembrance. The very same is the significance of ‘Eed-ul-Fitr’ (worship of forefathers).

    In ancient Hinduism the ‘demons’ always return to the world to create havoc, misery and suffering and destroy the good that the sacred people have created. Is Islam this demon of our age, distorting itself as a (false) religion, and create its endless problems for other people in the world?

    Image credits.

    http://mymeteorite.com/containers/137/140.html

    http://hindutemples-whthappendtothem.blogspot.in/2007/02/mecca-saudi-arebia-kaba.html

    Citation.

    http://ahayahyashiya.blogspot.in/2014/06/kaaba-ancient-hindu-shiva-temple-in.html

  • Reply To Abusive Comments on Castes in Islam Post

    I have received a lot of criticism for this Post.

    List Of 308 Castes In Islam Indian Muslims

    I have approved those which have not used abusive language.I am posting some of the comments below.

    One says that I have just provided the information from other sources ‘this article of mine is a poor one , I do not even proof read properly, I have not provided references  from other sources(while one says I have provided information from other sources!), I hate Islam, and I do not have Intellectual honesty.

    A very poorly written article. Let alone research or referencing, you haven’t even proofread it. There are many duplicate entries. You seem to confuse cultural groups and lineage with castes. Caste is characterised by hereditary occupations and intermingling, among other characteristics. The image at the start lists out different belief systems within Islam; it is not indicative of social/cultural classes or groups, but theological differences amongst Muslims. Most importantly, there is no sanction for castes in Quran/Hadith unlike other religion’s authoritative and definitve texts.

    What you’ve compiled (or, just posted perhaps) and passed off as castes, is in fact –
    – a repetitive list; Syed, Sayyid, Sayyed, etc. are merely different spellings. What’s with Pathans of X area and Pathans of Y area? This differentiation is hardly ever identified in reality.
    – a list of lineages, i.e. – Syed, for instance, implies that they descend from Ali, the Prophet’s cousin and Pathans are those people whose ancestors were from Af-Pak.
    – cultural backgrounds; Konkani, Dakhani (of Deccan), Goan, Gujarati, etc. are not castes. These are cultures, not castes.

    All those you’ve listed, will and do, stand shoulder to shoulder in the same mosque and pray to the same God and believe in the same things, with some variations in practice and theory. At the most, there may be about 10-15 different groups that wouldn’t share mosques due to major differences in beliefs, and not social status.

    For starters, eliminate the duplicate entries. Check ‘Faqir’, for instance – it appears as the 101st, 189th and 264th ‘caste’, besides a couple of entries without numbers. You’d be surprised to know that anybody can be a ‘faqir’ – it’s a way of life wherein one takes an oath to give up material life. Somewhat like sanyaas.
    ‘Sayyid’, with the same spelling and no variations, appears at 181, 76 and 33 positions. Then, it appears as ‘Sayyid of Gujarat’ as well.’

    As I have said in ‘About, , I am not a professional writer and my job is to provide information and leave the reader to judge.

    I have also said that at times I do not even proof read and I have requested people to point out my mistakes.On this count I plead guilty and shall try to improve.

    I am aware that there are cultural groups mentioned here under Caste.

    My question is would people from one group marry from one with another,?

    I know from my Muslim friends in Tamil Nadu, that they do not.

    “The image at the start lists out different belief systems within Islam; it is not indicative of social/cultural classes or groups, but theological differences amongst Muslims. Most importantly, there is no sanction for castes in Quran/Hadith unlike other religion’s authoritative and definitve texts”

    Islam Unified?

    What about Shias and Sunnis and other groups?

    Some of them do not even stand the sight of another and kill each other.

    Let me mention in the passing that one of my closest friends is a Muslim.

    Please read my post Where Are These Muslims?

    I am aware that there are e duplicate entries.

    I have been waiting for Islamic scholar to correct them and I am yet to find a reader who would.

    As to Pathans X and Pathans Y, they seem to identify themselves as such.

    The fact is that despite saying Islam is One Religion, One Ummah, Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi Muslims are treated as inferior in Islamic countries,Dubai and Abu Dhabi.

    Where is the concept of One Religion based on Equality?

    Yes , I am providing information  from other sources as I am not the original author in some areas and in such cases I provide information from other sources and give credit to these authors as Sources or Citations.

    And I provide my views on the subject

    This is a normal practice in a  researched article.

    ‘At the most, there may be about 10-15 different groups that wouldn’t share mosques due to major differences in beliefs, and not social status.”

    Exactly what I am trying to convey.

    Whether it is 15 or hundred it not ONE as touted.

    And I have not talked about Shia Sunni divide here.

    You may read about this in the Link below.

    https://ramanisblog.in/2013/08/08/bahrain-shia-sunni-violence-simmers-to-erupt/

    What I am trying to convey is that Islam is not what it is purported to be..Caste-less..

    Another comment.

    ‘Sheer ignorance.. You would have consulted some muslim on the validity of what you are putting. You have every right to love or hate Islam but dont be intellectually dishonest.If 2 diff courts give 2 diff judgements,doesnt mean we have 2 constitutions. Same is wd sch of law.Its just 2 interpretations. Your classification fails at Level 1,

    If my statements are not valid and do not pass Level 1, may people correct these with facts.

    And I am yet to find any corrections !

    Excepting abusing me and ascribing motives.

    What is being offered as a correction, only confirms my Post!

    As to Intellectual dishonesty, I do not proclaim what I am not.

    And try to justify it.

  • Vedic Roots Of Arabia Arabic Proof 1850 BC!

    I have written articles on the Vedic roots of Saudi Arabia, Shiva Linga in Mecca, 786 is flipped OM of Hinduism, Prophet Mohammed’s Uncle’s Poem, Siva Stuthi.

    Hindu Symbols, Saraswati, Rishi in Arabia.jpg Hindu Symbols, Saraswati, Rishi in Arabia.

    I had also written on the presence of Sapthapathi, Sarasvati , Navagrahas in Arabia , pre dating Muhammad .

    For the last post, I received comment in Facebook asking me not to be foolish about Islam and went on to trace the geneology of Arabia(!?) from the Koran!

    I did not seem it fit to reply to the comment.

    This comment made me research further about the Vedic roots of Arabia.

    Arabia is from the Sanskrit word Asva, Arava meaning Horse and Sthan, Place.

    Arabia is thus the place of Horses.

    Ancient Tamil Literature abounds in reference to Arabia as the land of Horses and all the Ancient Tamil Kings, Chera, Chola and Pandyas imported Horses from Arabia.

     

    The major land route  to Arabia was from the North West of India and the Arabic people drew spiritual inspiration from India.

    ‘The Uttarapath (Northern Highway) was the international highway to the North of India. It was via Uttarapath that Arabia and other Middle Eastern countries drew their spiritual, educational and material sustenance from India.

    Besides, this Sea-links were formed with India at least 800 years before the advent of Islam.

    Basra was the ancient gateway to India because it was at this port that the Arab lands received Indian goods and visitors.

    At that time the spoken language was Sanskrit, which later dwindled into the local variation that we now call Arabic.

    Thousands of words that were derived from Sanskrit still survive in Arabic today.

     

    Sanskrit Arabic English
    Sagwan Saj Teakwood
    Vish Besh Poison
    Anusari Ansari Follower
    Shishya Sheikh Disciple
    Mrityu Mout Death
    Pra-Ga-ambar Paigambar One from heaven
    Maleen Malaun Dirty or soiled
    Aapati Aafat Misfortune
    Karpas Kaifas Cotton
    Karpur Kafur Camphor
    Pramukh Barmak Chief

     

    Even various kinds of swords were referred to as Handuwani, Hindi, Saif-Ul-Hind, Muhannid and Hinduani. The Sanskrit Astronomical treatise Brahma-Sphuta-Siddhanta in Arabic translation is known as Sind-Hind, while another treatise Khanda-Khadyaka was called Arkand. Mathematics itself was calledHindisa .

    The Arabs derived technical guidance in every branch of study such as astronomy, mathematics and physics from India. A noted scholar of history, W.H. Siddiqui notes:

    “The Arab civilization grew up intensively
    as well as extensively on the riches of
    Indian trade and commerce. Nomadic Arab
    tribes became partially settled communities
    and some of them lived within walled towns practised agriculture and commerce, wroteon wood and stone, feared the gods and honored the kings.”

    Some people wrongly believe that Arabs used the word Hindu as a term of contemptuous abuse. Nothing could be further from the truth. The people of pre-Islamic Arabia held Hinduism in great esteem as evidenced from the fact that they would endearingly call their most attractive and favourite daughters as Hinda and Saifi Hindi. The fact that Arabs regarded India as their spiritual and cultural motherland long before the damaging influence of Islam is corroborated by the following poem which mentions each one of the four Vedas by name: (The English translation is in black)

    “Aya muwarekal araj yushaiya noha
    minar HIND-e
    Wa aradakallaha
    manyonaifail jikaratun”
    “Oh the divine land of HIND (India)
    (how) very blessed art thou!
    Because thou art the chosen
    of God blessed with knowledge”
    “Wahalatijali Yatun ainana sahabi
    akha-atun jikra Wahajayhi yonajjalur
    -rasu minal HINDATUN ”
    “That celestial knowledge which like
    four lighthouses shone in such
    brilliance – through the (utterances of)
    Indian sages in fourfold abundance.”
    “Yakuloonallaha ya ahal araf alameen
    kullahum
    Fattabe-u jikaratul VEDA bukkun
    malam yonajjaylatun”
    “God enjoins on all humans,
    follow with hands down
    The path the Vedas with his divine
    precept lay down.”
    “Wahowa alamus SAMA wal YAJUR
    minallahay Tanajeelan
    Fa-e-noma ya akhigo mutiabay-an
    Yobassheriyona jatun”
    “Bursting with (Divine) knowledge
    are SAM &YAJUR bestowed on creation,
    Hence brothers respect and
    follow the Vedas, guides to salvation”
    “Wa-isa nain huma RIG ATHAR nasayhin
    Ka-a-Khuwatun
    Wa asant Ala-udan wabowa masha -e-ratun”
    “Two others, the Rig and Athar teach us
    fraternity, Sheltering under their
    lustre dispels darkness till eternity”

    This poem was written by Labi-Bin-E- Akhtab-Bin-E-Turfa who lived in Arabia around 1850 B.C.

    That was 2300 years before Mohammed!!!

    This verse can be found in Sair- Ul-Okul which is an anthology of ancient Arabic poetry.

    It was compiled in 1742 AD under order of the Turkish Sultan Salim.

    That the Vedas were the religious scriptures to which the Arabs owed allegiance as early as 1800 B.C. proves not only the antiquity of the Vedas but also the existence of Indian rule over the entire region from the Indus to the Mediterranean, because it is a fact of history that the religion of the ruler is practised by his subjects.

    Vedic culture was very much alive just before the birth of Muhammad.

    Again let’s refer to the Sair-Ul-Okul. The following poem was written by JirrhamBintoi who lived 165 years before the prophet Muhammed. It is in praise of India’s great King Vikramaditya who had lived 500 years before Bintoi. (The English translation is in red).

    “Itrasshaphai Santul
    Bikramatul phehalameen Karimun
    Bihillahaya Samiminela
    Motakabbenaran Bihillaha
    Yubee qaid min howa
    Yaphakharu phajgal asari
    nahans Osirim Bayjayholeen
    Yaha sabdunya Kanateph natephi
    bijihalin Atadari Bilala masaurateen
    phakef Tasabahu. Kaunni eja majakaralhada
    walhada Achimiman, burukan, Kad, Toluho
    watastaru Bihillaha yakajibainana
    baleykulle amarena
    Phaheya jaunabil amaray Bikramatoon”

    – (Sair-ul-Okul, Page 315)

    “Fortunate are those who were born
    during King Vikram’s reign, he was
    a noble generous, dutiful ruler devoted
    to the welfare of his subjects. But at
    that time, We Arabs oblivious of divinity
    were lost in sensual pleasures. Plotting
    & torture were rampant. The darkness of
    ignorance had enveloped our country.
    Like the lamb struggling for its life
    in the cruel jaws of a wolf, we Arabs
    were gripped by ignorance. The whole
    country was enveloped in a darkness as
    intense as on a New moon night. But the
    present dawn & pleasant sunshine of
    education is the result of the favor of
    that noble king Vikram whose benevolence
    did not lose sight of us foreigners as we
    were. He spread his sacred culture amongst
    us and sent scholars from his own land
    whose brilliance shone like that of the sun
    in our country. These scholars & preceptors
    through whose benevolence we were once again
    made aware of the presence of god, introduced
    to his secret knowledge & put on the road to
    truth, had come to our country to initiate us
    in that culture & impart education.”

    Vedic religion and culture were present in Pre-Islamic Arabia as early as 1850 B.C., and definitely present at the time of Mohammed’s birth.

    Vishnu’s Footprints in Mecca and more to follow.

    Citation.

    https://www.aho.hk/swordoftruth/vpopia1.html