Ramanisblog

Tag: Karnataka

  • Rama’s Brother In Law In 2 Million Year Old Karnataka Ramayana

    Karnataka , as we know of it today, was a part of Deccan Plateau and it was  Karnataka Plateau.

    After the formation of linguistic states history of India got murky.

    Earlier India was called Bharavarsha and remained one, albeit ruled by many kings.

    Rama with Kodanda,Bow.jpg
    Lord Rama

    Karnataka ,till the advent of  the Satavahanas in 230BCE  was ruled either by the emperors of the North or by the Tamil Kings as this area was not  a separate entity then.

    Chandragupta Maurya ruled the Karnataka Plateau and died in Sravanabelagola as a Jain ascetic around 239 BCE

    However Karnataka has prehistorical past.

    I shall provide the information based on Geology and Archeology  towards the close of the post.

    The recorded history of Karnataka goes back more than two millennia.

    Meanwhile let us see the references in the Ramayana.

    1.

    Anegundi, believed to be the monkey kingdom of Kishkindha (Kishkinta means in local language a forest where the monkeys lived) in the epic of Ramayana, is at a distance of 5 km from the historical site of Hampi. Anjanadri hill, the birthplace of monkey-god Hanuman, and the mountain Rishimuka are the other places near Anegundi associated with Ramayana. It is said to have one of the oldest plateaus on the planet, estimated to be 3,000 million years old. So, only local story-tellers refer to Anegundi as the maternal home of Bhoodevi (Mother Earth).

    The picturesque village, located on the northern side bank of River Tungabhadra, was said to be the legendary Kishkindha, a kingdom of the monkey Prince Sugriva and the cradle place of the historic Krishnadevaraya dynasty of the glorious Vijayanagar empire and falls in the core zone of Hampi.

    Sage Rishyasrunga.jpg Sage Rishyasrunga.

    2.Pampa Sarovar is mentioned as the place where Shabari (also Shabri), a disciple of the Rishi Matunga, directedRama as he journeyed southwards on his quest to redeem Sita, his wife, from the demon king Ravana. According to the story,Shabari, a pious devotee of Rama, prayed faithfully everyday to see Rama. She lived in the ashram of her guru, Matunga in the place know known as Matunga Parvat, in Hampi. Before her guru Matunga Rishi died he told her she would certainly see Rama. After his death, Shabari continued to live in the ashram awaiting Rama. Many years passed by and Shabari became an old woman, before Rama stopped at the ashram on his journey to Lanka. She proceeded to feed Rama and his brother Lakshmana. Touched by her piety Rama and Lakshmana bowed down at her feet. Then, they narrated to her the incident of Sita’s kidnapping and Shabarisuggested that they seek help from Hanuman and Sugriva of the monkey kingdom who lived further south near the Pampa lake. Pampa sarovar is also famous for the pushti marg vaishnavas, where in Srimad Vallabhacahrya had performed Srimad Bhawwad in the 16th century, in is many bharat darshan visits, also reafirms the importance of the holy place..

    3.Sringer is the place where Sage Rishyasrunga, son of Vibhantaka brought rains to the drought affected kingdom of Romapada.(Balakanda of Ramayana).

    4.There is Rishyasrunga Hill near Sringeri.

    5.Rama’s sister Shanta  was married to Romapada.Romapada was the King of Anga Desa, now in Pakistan, near Mohenjo Daro. His son-in-law  was Rishyasrunga, which makes Rishyasrunga Rama’s Sister’s husband!

    ‘

    A king named Dasharatha will be born into Ikshwaku dynasty who will be very virtuous, resplendent and truthful one to his vow.” Said Sanat Kumara, the Sage.”King Dasharatha will befriend the king of Anga and the king of Anga will beget a fortunate girl named Shanta.

    Shanta is said to be the daughter of Dasharatha and given to Romapada in adoption, and Rishyasringa marries her alone. This is what Sumantra says to Dasharatha at 1-9-19.

    The son of the king of Anga, the earlier king of Anga kingdom, will be known as Romapada, or also know as Chitraratha, and the highly renowned king Dasharatha approaches Romapada. Then king Dasharatha says to king of Anga “oh, righteous one, I am childless and hence I intend to perform a Vedic ritual. Let the husband of your daughter Shanta, Sage Rishyasringa, preside over that Vedic ritual at you behest, for the sake of progeny in my dynasty.

    “On hearing those words of king Dasharatha that benevolent soul Romapada, the king of Anga, considers heartily and agrees to send the one who endows progeny by rituals, namely Sage Rishyasringa his son-in-law.

    The words pradaasyate putravantam are read in some translations as ‘Rishyasringa who already has a son…’ while others read it as ‘a sage who endows progeny by putra kameSti ritual…’ But in Maha Bharata father Vibhandaka says to Rishyasringa to comeback after begetting a son, which Rishyasringa did not concede. So taking this some say Rishyasringa has a son. But it is generally accepted that putravantam as aahitaagni, Vedic ritualist of eminence, according to: j˜ta putra× k®þõa keþo agnŸn adhŸta…according to shruti scripture.

    “On receiving that Brahman, Sage Rishyasringa, at the behest of his father-in-law, that king Dasharatha gets rid of his febrile condition and will accomplish that Vedic ritual, feeling very felicitous in the depths of his heart.

    “That king, the desirer of glory, the knower of virtue and the lord of people, namely Dasharatha will be requesting that best Brahman Rishyasringa with his palms adjoined in supplication for the conduct of ritual, for progeny and even for his heavenly abodes, and that king of all the quarters of earth will accomplish those desires from that eminent Brahman Rishyasringa.’

    Balakanda Ramayana

    6.Ravana in Gokarna.

    Gokarna is the place where Ravana kept the Atmalinga down.

    7.Sage Agastya killed Vatapi .

    There is a lake called Agastya Lake bear Vatapi, now called as Badami.

    Archeological evidence.

    The pre-historic culture of Karnataka (and South India in general) is called the hand-axe culture, as opposed to the Sohan culture of North India. Paleolithic hand axes and cleavers in the shape of pebbles made with quartz and quartzite which have been found in places such as Lingadahalli in Chikkamagaluru district and Hunasagi in Yadgir district, and a wooden spike atKibbanahalli in Tumkur district are examples of old stone age implements.There are reports that a polished stone axe was discovered at Lingasugur in the Raichur district[7][8] Neolithic sites (new stone age) of importance are Maski in Raichur district,Brahmagiri in Chitradurga district etc., with abundance of evidence that man begun to domesticate animals such as cows, dogs and sheep, use copper and bronze weapons, wear bangles, rings, necklaces of beads and ear-rings and have burial chambers. To the end of the Neolithic era, during the Megalithic age, people in Karnataka began to use long swords, sickles, axes, hammers, spikes, chisels and arrows, all made of iron.

    Scholarly hypothesis postulates contacts between the Indus Valley (3300 BCE – 1300 BCE) cities of Harappa and Lothal, citing the discovery of gold found in the Harappan sites that was imported from mines in Karnataka.

    Citations.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pampa_Sarovar

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anegundi

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Karnataka

    Related articles

  • Siddhas In Karnataka Bangalore Prehistoric Writings Images

    The general information about the Siddhas are very limited.

    Even here, there is a misconception that the Siddhas are Tamils and their presence is limited to Tamil  Nadu.

    When Siddhas can transcend Time and Space, a Country is nothing for them.

    There are Siddha sites in Karnataka, that too near Bangalore.

    Siddhara Betta, Siddhas' Hills, near Bangalore.jpg Siddhara Betta, Siddhas’ Hills, near Bangalore

    There are prehistoric sites.

    Siddha lokasAshram.jpg On one of the hills surrounding Siddhaloka is a massive pattern (about 30 metres, or 90 feet high) etched naturally on the rocks. If you observe carefully, it appears as a picture of the goddess Durga or Shakti, mounted on a lion, crown on head, arm raised with sword in hand.

    ‘

    Siddhaloka is described as the world inhabited by Siddhas, the Perfected Ones. An Ashram (hermitage) of this name is situated about 40 km from Bangalore in Southern India. This is the seat of the Siddha Yoga Dham, a registered charitable institution whose spiritual head is Param Poojya (His Holiness) Swami Chetanananda Saraswati, who belongs to the ancient lineage of Siddha Gurus.

    Siddhaloka is a place full of splendour and serenity. The ashram is surrounded by hills and forests, with a breathtaking view, and is in the heart of rural Karnataka. The place is blessed by Siddhas and is an ocean of Siddha Shakti (divine power). There is no pollution of any form. One is inspired to remain indrawn and experience the natural meditative state..

    Siddha Lokam near Bangalore.jpg, The cave derives its name from the peculiar picture-script found on its walls, which have been estimated by experts to date back to prehistoric times. The script is referred to as Shankha or ‘Conch-shell’ script. The actual height of the picture shown here is about four metres…

    Siddhara Betta, Siddhars Mountain.

    Siddhara Betta, around 12 Kms away from Koratagere in Tumkur district,

    Tumkur can be reached by Train, Buses from Bangalore.

    Airport.Bangalore.

    From here, we climbed back on to the path where visitors walked and soon we were back in contact with the people moving all over the place. We then, moving ahead, reached the spot which is the destination of tourists and religious seekers. This is the main location of the Siddheshwara Temple and the healing waters. This also had entrance to large number of caves in which many yogis did their sadhana for years together. We were told to take a guide with us or there was a possibility of missing important places or literally getting lost in the caves. What is told to be caves is nothing but the spaces between these incredibly huge rocks but as one proceeds deeper into the space it gets darker and there was multiple twists and turns that one could keep wandering. We did not know whom to ask but as we moved ahead a man came walking along with us and spoke in Kannada stating that he would show us around. i was told earlier before coming to this place that a guide is a must to navigate in these caves or one could get lost or one could miss out the main spots needed to be seen. They charge between Rs.100/- and 200/-
     
    The entrance to the holy temple and caves had crystal clear water flowing as though it was meant to wash the feet of those who went it. The water on this hill is very pure and is known for its medicinal properties full of healthy vital natural elements in it and also spiritually vibrant. The guide took us first to a dark space filled with lot of people and there seemed to be an arati going on. Reaching close to it, we found that this was the temple. There were no electric lights and the only visibility was a gas lamp lit in front of the big Shiva Linga. People made different offerings here and the priest was doing arati and puja for the devotees. In front of the Shiva Linga was a small natural water tank in stones which was filled with the holy waters. The guide told us that the Siddhas used water from here for worship. There were few very ancient idols also there, the most prominent being Lord Ganesha’s. Then, the guide took us through a narrow dark passage. We had carried our torches and that came very handy here along with the torch of the guide. Everything from here was dark inside. He moved through various narrow spaces that needed climbing, sliding, crawling on knees, have steep navigations that required careful and slow maneuvering. He helped us navigate through these spaces, sometimes himself demonstrating techniques on foot placement and shifting body weight to narrow down into steep rock spaces. By now it was evident that there is no way one can come here without a guide for there are so many passages that one can literally get lost. We were the only four of us (physically) in that location at that time.
     
    He stopped at certain locations to show us the well-known spots that some Siddhas did their tapas for years. He also showed us a space where there was a natural stream of water filled in a space from where the Yogis drew and used water. He then took us to one remote cave around which a wall was built with a door and two windows and it looked like a room, but it was actually the entrance to a cave, where even today a Siddha lives. The door was locked and outside was carved “Marul Siddheshwar Mutt” which means ashram. There was another such kind of cave with a door a little ahead. i asked the guide where was the Yogi and he said that during the day he goes away some unknown place during the day because of the disturbance of people there flocking for favours and comes back only in the night to meditate there. Moving further, he showed us more spaces and seats of Yogis. He added that even meditators come and sometimes use this place for their meditation. We asked if anyone can sit to which he said anyone can, but rarely does anyone use it.
    Citations.

    http://www.siddha-loka.org/ashram.html

    http://www.divinetravel.info/2012/04/siddharbetta-hill-of-siddhas.html

    Related articles

  • Kannadigas From Yadava Tribe Agastya,Kapila.Tamil

    The History of Sanatana Dharma is very deep and extensive.To have an idea of what it was one has to know Sanskrit, Hinduism and the Indian Regional languages.

    I am handicapped in this respect in that I am conversant only in two languages,Sanskrit and Tamil, though I can speak Kannada.

    Amriteswara temple, Karnataka.jpg Amriteswara temple, Karnataka.

    If I know the other languages I might be able to get a better idea of the Sanatana Dharma for it was spread throughout the world and embedded deeply in all the regions of India.

    Available records speak of Pali, Sanskrit and Tamil as the oldest.

    Scholars from the other regional languages may send in their information on this,

    One request is that this site is for Sanatana Dharam and not a ground for Linguistic war for that is the shortest cut to destroying Sanatana Dharama.

    To me Sanskrit is my Father Tongue and Tamil Mother tongue.

    This, I hope, might apply to all of us in various regions of India, the Mother Tongue being the one determined by region in which one is born or picks up from his mother.

    Earliest historical evidence to Kanndigas is found in Brahmagiri , Karnataka.

    Brahmagiri is an archaeological site located in the Chitradurga district of the state of Karnataka, India. Legend has it that this is the site where age Gautama Maharishi (also spelt Gauthama Maharshi) and his wife Ahalya lived. He was one among seven noted Hindu saints (Saptharshi mandalam). This site was first explored by Benjamin L. Rice in 1891, who discovered rock edicts of Emperor Ashoka here. These rock edicts indicated that the locality was termed as Isila and denoted the southernmost extent of the Mauryan empire.[1][2] The Brahmagiri site is a granite outcrop elevated about 180 m. above the surrounding plains and measures around 500 m east-west and 100 m north-south. It is well known for the large number of megalithic monuments that have been found here.The earliest settlement found here has been dated to at least the 2nd millennium BC

    As this date is 2 BC I searched for earlier connections with Sanatana Dharama.

    References are found in the Tamil Classics on this and in Legends.

    Tamil Purananuru, says the people of Karnataka were from the Yadavas of  Dwaraka.

    Now there are references in the Puranas of seven Dwarakas.

    This reference about Kannadigas probably refers to the second Dwaraka, when the tribes left for the middle east and elsewhere because of Flood.

    One group led by Agastya and Kapila, who compiled Purananuru settled in Karnataka, on the banks of Kaveri River.

    Sangam Tamil poets composed over 2000 poems. Purananuru is an encyclopaedia of Tamil culture. It has got less than 400 verses. Purananuru verse 201 was composed by Kapilar two thousand years ago. This is a very important verse in Purananuru. It throws much light on early Indian History. Kapilar talks about 49th generation of Irungovel. Famous Tamil Commentator Nachinarkiniyar , who lived several hundred years ago, gave a very interesting story about this verse.

    Nachinarkiniyar said that Agastya brought 12 tribes from Dwaraka ruled by Lord Krishna. Another city in the name of Dwaraka was founded in Karnataka (Mysore) state in the twelfth century. There is an interesting story about how and who founded this city. Hoychalas were the kings who ruled from this city. Hoychala is translated into Tamil asPulikadimal which is found in verse 201.

    Chala was a king belonging to Yadu dynasty. While he was hunting in the Western Ghats, he saw a hare heroically fighting with a tiger. This made him to think that this place must have some special importance. When he followed the fighting tiger and hare, an ascetic who was doing penance ordered king Chala to kill the tiger. The ascetic’s order in Sanskrit was “Hatham Hoy Chala”. So from that day on wards the king and his descendants were called Hoychalas. If the verse 201 refers to this anecdote then it must have happened 2000 years ago.

    This is reinforced by the Temples dedicated to Hindu Gods by the Hoysalas in Karnataka

    More to follow on this.

    http://tamilandvedas.com/2012/04/04/karnataka-indus-valley-connection/

    Related articles

  • Jayalalithaa Bail Rejection Right Correct

    It is quite some time now since I have written on Political cases involving corruption save for the one on Jayalalithaa’s arrest in the disproportionate wealth  case.

     

    Reason is that I was fed up on reporting corruption exhaustively only to find that the process of Law being subverted .

     

    The culprits remain unpunished, going about their tasks of amassing wealth as usual, with more vigor.

    Jayalalitaa, CM of Tamil Nadu

     

    Now a ray has appeared  in the conviction of Jayalalithaa.

     

    For my article the End of Dravidian parties in Tamil Nadu, where I dealt with Jayalalithaa’s conviction, I have received. apart from emails,personal calls,stating that my views are wrong,there are people who are more corrupt going scot-free,like Sonia Gandhi,Karunanidhi,A.Raja and many more;

     

    Jayalaithaa’s conviction for 66.64 crore is a pittance against Rs 1,86,000 crore 2G scam and some other corruption cases;

     

    She has done a lot for the poor;

     

    Some told me as a Brahimin I should desist from  condemning Jjayalalithaa.

     

    My friend for about 50 years slammed and hung up the phone on me.

     

    Now that Jayalalithaa’s bail application has been rejected by the High Court of Karnataka, which I anticipated,my view on this issue remains the same.

     

    We seem to have watered down basic values, being Honest,of Integrity, Sincerity, Loyalty.

     

    We have started giving shades to the values.

     

    Less Honest,Less sincere, slightly less loyal etc.

     

    Moral values are Absolute.

     

    There can be difference between one who takes Rs 100 as Bribe and another who takes ONE CRORE.

     

    Both are corrupt and have to be punished.

     

    People have been saying that Bail should be granted.

     

    Bail is not a matter of Right and it is the discretion of the court.

     

    As for as the contention that Lallu Prasad has been granted bail in th Fodder scam, the judge , who tried Jayalalithaa’s case, observed that Lallu had been in Jail for ten months and Jayalalithaa has been in Jail for only ten days.

     

    He has also observed correctly  that corruption is an assault on basic Human Rights.

     

    Surprising why prosecution did not object for the bail

     

    The judgement is Morally Right and legally correct.

     

    I expect more abuses for this article.

     

    ”

    There is no parity with Lalu Prasad’s case; corruption is violation of Human Rights.

     

    Karnataka high court on Jayalalithaa’s plea..

    Citation.

     

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Jayalalithaa-bail-plea-hearing-in-Karanataka-high-court-today/newsliveblog/44591356.cms

    Related articles

  • 14 Feet Ganesha, Someshwara Temple Without Foundation

    The legends in Hinduism are intriguing , many from diverse sources. Puranas, Ithihasas like Ramayana, Mahabharata and of places and people.

     

    Kurudumale temple.jpg
    Kurudumale temple. image credit.http://www.mulbagal.com/kurudumaletemples.html

     

    Intriguing because of their consistency and though they may be appear to contradict each other, on critical examination they are in agreement.

     

    Be it the route taken by Lord Rama,the travels of Arjuna,Adi Shankaracharya………..

     

    Read my posts on these.

     

    And the architectural marvels, they are too many.

     

    Please check my posts filed under Hinduism.

     

    Sun’s rays falling on images on specific days,springs from unexpected places…..

     

    One such is the temple dedicated Lord Ganesha at Kurudumale near Mulbagal.

     

    Kolar district of Karnataka state, India,it is just 8km away from the Mulabagal town. is known for its Ganesha temple built by a Vijayanagara kings. This place was believed to be the place where Devas would descend from the heavens for helping recreation on earth. The ganesha temple is considered to be very powerful.

     

    Note that the Devas do not create but assist Brahma in creation of the Universe.

     

    This is in agreement with the Puarans.

     

    Another temple located nearby is built without foundation, dedicated to Someshwara,.

     

    The interesting thing about this temple is that it is built of a rock without any foundations. Another interesting thing is the architectural style of the temple; this temple is considered to be older than the Ganesha temple and was built during the Cholas period. Half of the temple has different style of carving, believed to have been done by artist Jakanachari and the other half is believed to have been carved by his son Dankanachari. The part of the temple supposedly built by Dankana’s has statues and carvings which are more intricate and sophisticated. Ganesha temple in Kurudumale, situated on the same road as that of Someshwara temple, but here a huge Ganesha idol is being worshipped from ages unknown. It is said that the Ganesha statue was being worshipped in an open field, until Krishnadevaraya built a temple around it. Ganesha(14 ft in all),  here , isbigger than the Dodda Ganesha of Basavanagudi.(http://www.mulbagal.com/kurudumaletemples.html)

     

    How to reach.

    110 Km from Bangalore.

    Airport  Bangalore.

    Bus statio.Mulabgal.

     

    Related articles