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  • When Did Kali Yuga Begin

    Indian texts texts speak of Time as one continuous flow, that it is Cyclic and Non Linear.

    That is Time flows in a Circle and Time recoils on itself.

    There are four Aeons, Yugas.

    Krutha or Satya Yuga,

    Tretha Yuga, when Rama lived,

    Dwapara Yuga, when Krishna lived and  the present one in which we are living

    Kaliyuga.

    Time in Hinduism is Cyclic
    Time in Hinduism. Yugas

     

     

    Image credit.

    By Ingo Kappler –Inka 23:32, 8 May 2005 (UTC) – Own work, CC BY-SA 2.0 de, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=134870

    The Mahabharata  War took place towards the closing years of the Dwapara yuga.

    Kali yuga is reported to have begun after the departure of Lord Krishna and after Yuga Sandhi.

    Yuga Sandhi is the Interregnum  is the period between two yugas.

    When did Kali Yuga begin?

    Indians follow an almanac system based on the movement of the Sun and Moon.

    Time is divided into finest parts and large numbers are also discussed..

    This Almanac is called Panchanga s it takes into account five factors,Pancha means Five.

    The Five are,

    Thithi, waxing and waning of the Moon,

    Vaara, Day,

    Nakshatra, Stars and their Movements,

    Yoga,  a specific time of the day which indicates auspiciousness or otherwise and

    Karana, yet another parameter of time to calculate auspiciousness.

    The Panchanga is used by the Hindus daily to find out the auspicious dates.,movement of the Moon.

    The Panchanga is read at the beginning of a year.

    Panchanga predicts, among other things like natural calamities, general world status, weather.

    And it predicts the Eclipses so accurately which tallies with modern scientific  calculations.

    Based on the Panchanga , the date when Kali Yuga began is arrived at.

    This is how it has been done.

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    The description is detailed to year-month-days of each and every king who ruled. By adding the total number of years of the four dynasties from Yudhishthir to Vikramaditya, it comes to 3,178 years which is 3141 Kali era or 39 AD, which represents the date when Vikramaditya left this earth planet.

    According to the Bhavishya Puran and Rajtarangini, Vikramaditya lived between 102 BC and 15 AD; and according to the above details his period ends by 39 AD. There is only a difference of 24 years in the date-wise record of 70 kings who ruled Hastinapur for 3,085 years. A discrepancy of 24 years in 3,000 years of record could be a copying or printing mistake, and is thus negligible when we are dealing with a longer span of years. In this way the predicted period of the dynasties of Magadh and the historic records of the dynasties of Hastinapur correspond with each other and justify their correctness, and vice versa.

    Ancient Kings India
    Magazine Text detailing the Early King list of India

     

    This is only a section of the magazine. It gives full date-wise detail of each and every king who ruled Hastinapur from Yudhishthir up to Vikramaditya. This is one of the rarest records that survived through this magazine.

    The beginning of kaliyug, 3102 BC.

    We have taken the beginning of kaliyug as the fixed point to determine the chronological dates of the events, kings, Divine dignitaries and the important personalities of our history. It is a common understanding that kaliyug started about 5,000 years ago (in round figures) and we never had any problems in the past in accepting this fact. But only after the arrival of the English people in India, all sorts of baseless criticisms started regarding our history and religion that were promoted and fostered by them. We had hundreds of such evidences regarding the date of Mahabharat war and the beginning of kaliyug in our history books that were destroyed by the British, still we have more than enough material to fully establish this fact.

    (1) Astrological.

    (a) We still follow the ancient astrological tradition. There is a most prestigious, 48 page detailed date-wise journal (panchang) with all the astrological facts and figures called “Vishva Panchangam,” established in 1925 and published by Kashi Hindu Vishvavidyalaya (Benares Hindu University), Varanasi. It gives all the three eras: Kali era, Vikram era and (Shalivahan) Shak era.

    It is as thus:

    It says on page 3 that 5,100 years have already elapsed before 2056 Vikram year which is 1999 AD. It means that the existing Kali era is 5101 in 1999 AD, which comes to (5101 – 1999) 3102 BC.

    (b) Another panchang of India called “Shree Saraswati Panchangam” published from Navalgarh, Rajasthan, also gives all the calculations and says that 5,100 years of kaliyug had already elapsed before 1999.

    (c) The “Vishva Vijay Panchangam” of Solan, Himachal Pradesh, says,


    It means that 5,100 years of kaliyug had already elapsed before 1999 and 426,900 years of kaliyugare still left. Kaliyug is of 432,000 years (so, kaliyug started in 3102 BC).

    Thus, the best team of the scholars of astrology all over India give the same figures of 3102 BC and publish it in the panchang (journal) every year.

    These astrological journals are run by a group of the most learned astrologers of India, and thus it is mindlessness if any astrologer or scholar unnecessarily tries to argue about their accuracy.

    (2) Others.

    Alberuni. “Alberuni’s India,” first Indian print 1964 (S. Chand & Co., New Delhi) Volume I. In the second part of this book on page 4 Alberuni writes, “…the time which has elapsed since the beginning of kaliyug before our gauge-year, 4132 years, and between the wars of Bharat and our gauge-year there have elapsed 3479 years.” In the Annotations (p. 358) of the same book Alberuni tells about his gauge-year, which is: “A.D. 1031, 25th February, a Thursday.”

    There is a difference of 968 years between 1031 AD and 1999 AD. Thus, adding 968 years to 4,132 years comes to 5,100 years, the period that has already elapsed since the beginning of kaliyugand up till today (1999), and this is exactly what is mentioned in the astrological journals of India.

    Alberuni also mentions about Vikram era (57 BC) and also the Shalivahan Shak era which starts 135 years after the Vikram era.

    Aryabhatt. The greatest astronomer and mathematician, Aryabhatt, was born in 476 AD. His work in astronomy is an asset to the scholars. He gave an accurate figure for pi ( ) 3.1416. He finished his book “Aryabhattiya” in 499 AD in which he gives the exact year of the beginning ofkaliyug. He writes,

    “When the three yugas (satyug, tretayug and dwaparyug) have elapsed and 60 x 60 (3,600) years ofkaliyug have already passed, I am now 23 years old.” It means that in the 3,601st year of Kali era he was 23 years old. Aryabhatt was born in 476 AD. Thus, the beginning of kaliyug comes to 3,601 – (476 + 23) = 3102 BC.

    ‘According to KD Abhyankar, the starting point of Kaliyuga is an extremely rare planetary alignment, which is depicted in the Mohenjo-Daro seals. Going by this alignment the year 3102 B.C is slightly off. The actual date for this alignment is February 7 of 3104 B.C.'(wiki Kali yuga)

    Kali yuga, therfore began on 7 February 3104 BC

    Citation in block quote and References .

    http://www.encyclopediaofauthentichinduism.org/articles/51_the_bhartiya_chronology.htm

  • Shiva Thiruvannamalai At The Instant Of Earth’s Creation By Brahma

    Shiva Thiruvannamalai At The Instant Of Earth’s Creation By Brahma

    The Puranas speak of Time on a Huge scale.

    There are four Yugas and they are created, destroyed and recreated.

    According to Hinduism, destruction is a misnomer.

    It is hidden.

    Curious enough modern Quantum Physics calls it in a different way as projection of Multi Verses.

    Aarati to Tirupati Balaji Moolavar.jpg
    Aarati to Tirupati Balaji Moolavar.

    I have written a couple of articles on Multi verses in Hinduism.

    The Time scale of Sanatana Dharma has the following points.

    1. The Universe is created, hidden and re projected.
    2. This happens at three-time frames called  Manvantara, Kalpa and Yuga.
    3. Three kinds of cataclysms take place.One is water, Another by Fire and another is total darkness each of these correspond to the dissolution at the end of Manvantara, Kalpa and yuga.
    4. The Universe is eternal.
    5. Time is eternal.
    6. Time is non linear.
    7. Time is Cyclic.
    Arunachala Mountaion, Pre historic.jpg
    Arunachala Mountaion, Pre historic.

    Brahma’s day is divided in one thousand cycles (Maha Yuga, or the Great Year). Maha Yuga, during which life, including the human race appears and then disappears, has 71 divisions, each made of 14 Manvantara (1000) years. Each Maha Yuga lasts for 4,320,000 years.

    Manvantara is Manu’s cycle, the one who gives birth and governs the human race. before & after each manvantara there’s a sandhikal as long as krutyuga & in that time there is all water on earth.

    Each Maha Yuga consists of a series of four shorter yugas, or ages.

    The yugas get progressively worse from a moral point of view as one proceeds from one yuga to another. As a result, each yuga is of shorter duration than the age that preceded it.

    The current Kali Yuga (Iron Age) began at midnight 17 February / 18 February in 3102 BC in the proleptic Julian calendar (Year 6898 of the Holocene Era.) kalpa=ahoratra of brahma. Space and time are considered to be maya (illusion). What looks like 100 years in the cosmos of Brahma could be thousands of years in other worlds, millions of years in some other worlds and 311 trillion and 40 billion years for our solar system and earth. The life span of Lord Brahma, the creator, is 100 ‘Brahma-Years’.

    One day in the life of Brahma is called a Kalpa or 4.32 billion years.Every Kalpa creates 14 Manus one after the other, who in turn manifest and regulate this world. Thus, there are fourteen generations of Manu in each Kalpa. Each Manu’s life (Manvantara) consists of 71 Chaturyugas (quartets of Yugas or eras). Each Chaturyugais composed of four eras or Yugas: Satya, Treta, Dwapara and Kali. if we add all manvantaras(4320000x71x14)as long as 4 chaturyuga will be missing its because sandhikaal.after & before each manvantara so 15 sandhikaal The span of the Satya Yuga is 1,728,000 human years, Treta Yuga is 1,296,000 human years long, the Dwapara Yuga 864,000 human years and the Kali Yuga432,000 human years.[8] When Manu perishes at the end of his life, Brahma creates the next Manu and the cycle continues until all fourteen Manus and the Universe perish by the end of Bramha’s day. When ‘night’ falls, Brahma goes to sleep for a period of 4.32 billion years, which is a period of time equal one day (of Brahma) and the lives of fourteen Manus. The next ‘morning’, Brahma creates fourteen additional Manus in sequence just as he has done on the previous ‘day’. The cycle goes on for 100 ‘divine years’ at the end of which Brahma perishes and is regenerated. Bramha’s entire life equals 311 trillion, 40 billion years. Thus a second of Brahmā is 98,630 years. Once Brahma dies there is an equal period of unmanifestation for 311 trillion, 40 billion years, until the next Bramha is created. During one life of Brahma there are 504 000 Manus (Vedic “Adams”) are changing, there are 5040 Manus are changing during one year of Brahma, and 420 Manus manifest during one month of Brahmā. (See: List of numbers in Hindu scriptures for more such numeric details).

    During the course of my research into Sanatana Dharma I stumbled across these facts which are authenticated by Modern Science.

    1. Thiruvannamali in Tamil Nadu, India is over 3.5 Billion Years old.
    2. Shiva Uma Marraige took place 40 Millionyeas ago.
    3. Tirupati is over 2100 million years old.
    4. An ancient site is Chennai, Tamil Nadu is dated around a Million years
    5. Jwalapuram ,Kurnool, Andhra Pradesh, India is dated around 74,000 years

    I wanted to look into this taking into account these points,The Age of Earth as stated by the Hindu Puranas and by Modern science.

    Now according to Hindu Cosmology, the earth is .4.32 Billion years old.

    The puranic view asserts that the universe is created, destroyed, and re-created in an eternally repetitive series of cycles. In Hindu cosmology, a universe endures for about 4,320,000,000 years (one day of Brahma, the creator or kalpa) and is then destroyed by fire or water elements. At this point, Brahma rests for one night, just as long as the day. This process, named pralaya (literallyespecial dissolution in Sanskrit, commonly translated as Cataclysm), repeats for 100 Brahma years (311 Trillion, 40 Billion Human Years) that represents Brahma’s lifespan. Brahma is regarded as a manifestation of Brahman as the creator.

    Modern scientific view is that the earth is…4.54 Billion years + or – 5 Billion years!

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    The age of the Earth is 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years (4.54 × 109 years ± 1%). This age is based on evidence from radiometric age dating of meteorite material and is consistent with the radiometric ages of the oldest-known terrestrial and lunar samples.

    Following the scientific revolution and the development of radiometric age dating, measurements of lead in uranium-rich mineralsshowed that some were in excess of a billion years old.The oldest such minerals analyzed to date—small crystals of zircon from the Jack Hills of Western Australia—are at least 4.404 billion years old. Comparing the mass and luminosity of the Sun to those of other stars, it appears that the Solar System cannot be much older than those rocks. Calcium-aluminium-rich inclusions  – the oldest known solid constituents within meteorites that are formed within the Solar System – are 4.567 billion years old, giving an age for the solar system and an upper limit for the age of Earth.

    It is hypothesised that the accretion of Earth began soon after the formation of the calcium-aluminium-rich inclusions and themeteorites. Because the exact amount of time this accretion process took is not yet known, and the predictions from different accretion models range from a few millions up to about 100 million years, the exact age of Earth is difficult to determine. It is also difficult to determine the exact age of the oldest rocks on Earth, exposed at the surface, as they are aggregates of minerals of possibly different ages..

    Now Thiruvannamalai,Tamil Nadu, India is 3.5 Billion years old!

    In Puranic version of Brahma’s creation, the first creation for this kalpa was around 4.32 Billion Years.

    In such great stretches of Time 5 to 10 billion years is allowed in calculation.

    Hence it is probable Shiva was at Thiruvannamalai when Brahma created the world around 4.32 Billion Years ago!

    I shall be exploring this data from other angles as well.

    Citations.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_cosmology

    https://ramanisblog.in/2015/07/08/arunachala-shiva-thiruvannamalai-three-billion-years-old-gsi/

    https://ramanisblog.in/2014/07/09/hindus-lived-74000-years-ago-survey-finds/

    https://ramanisblog.in/2015/07/11/tirupati-tirumala-2100-million-years-old-geology/

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  • Manu Dravida Ancestor Precedes Daksha Dravida Sanatana Dharma

    Manu Dravida Ancestor Precedes Daksha Dravida Sanatana Dharma

    I was intrigued by the fact that the Shiva worship starts with Daksha, who is the first Human being by Brahma for each Yuga.

    And Daksha Kingdom was in the North of the Vindhyas.

    Daksha’s daughter married Shiva.Daksha with Veerabhadra.jpg “Painting on paper depicting ‘Virabhadra The red-hued deity is coiffed exactly like Śiva. This is an unusual rendering of Virabhadra. The face of the Ganga peeps out of the dreadlocks, while loose jatas fly around his head. On his forehead is a prominent tripundra. Side fangs protrude from his mouth and a bushy moustache grows on his upper lip. In his upper right hand is a damaru, in his upper left hand a flame, the lower right hand carries a sword and the lower left a buckler. The attributes in his upper hands are unusual, as they generally bear the bow and the arrow. He is dressed in a dhoti adorned by sashes on the sides and an angavastra is draped on his elbows. Among his ornaments is a long white garland. On his feet are toe-knob sandals. At his left stands the ram-headed Daksha, sporting tripundra marks on his forehead and arms dressed in dhoti and with the angavastra tied around his hips.” Image credit.”Virabhadra Daksha” by Unknown – http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/search_the_collection_database/search_object_details.aspx?objectid=3058344&partid=1&output=Places%2f!!%2fOR%2f!!%2f41361%2f!%2f41361-2-20%2f!%2fPainted+in+Thanjavur%2f!%2f%2f!!%2f%2f!!!%2f&orig=%2fresearch%2fsearch_the_collection_database%2fadvanced_search.aspx&currentPage=1&numpages=10. Licensed under Public Domain via Wikimedia Commons – https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Virabhadra_Daksha.jpg#/media/File:Virabhadra_Daksha.jpg’

    Vishnu worship seems to have been later than that of Shiva in the South, Dravida worship.

    Rama’s ancestor Satyavrata Manu migrated from the South to Ayodhya, where his son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku Dynasty..

    If Daksha were to be the first Human being created then how do we account for Manu?

    Manu seems to pre date Daksha as,

    1.Daksha came later, in the beginning of the Yuga, whereas Manu is for Manvantara.

    A Manu’s lifespan is 71 Mahayugas (306,720,000 years).

    ‘Yuga  is the name of an epoch or era within a four age cycle. According to Hindu cosmology, life in the universe is created and destroyed once every 4.1 to 8.2 billion years,] which is one full day and night for Brahma. The lifetime of Brahma himself believed to be 311 trillion and 40 billion years as per Hindu cosmology.’

    Manus and Saptha Rishis are for every Manvantara..

    One of the Saptha Rishis is Agastya.

    ‘The earliest list of the Seven Rishis is given by Jaiminiya Brahmana 2.218-221: Vashista, Bharadvaja, Jamadagni, Gautama, Atri,Visvamitra, and Agastya, followed by Brihadaranyaka Upanisad 2.2.6 with a slightly different list: Gautama and Bharadvāja, Viśvāmitra and Jamadagni, Vashiṣṭha and Kaśyapa, and Atri, Brighu. The late Gopatha Brāhmana 1.2.8 has Vashiṣṭa, Viśvāmitra, Jamadagni, Gautama, Bharadvāja, Gungu, Agastya, Bhrighu and Kaśyapa..’

    We find Agastya in the South advising Rama in the battle field not to lose heart and chant Adhitya Hrudayam on Lord Surya to win the war against Ravana.

    Then we have Lord Shiva as the Father of Tamil Language.

    Of course Sanskrit is also from Shiva’s Damaru, Maheswara Sutras.(Please read m Post on this)

    We find the legends of Shiva in the north from the marriage of Sati ,daughter of Daksha with Shiva.

    Nothing more of Shiva is mentioned in these North Indian Legends.

    Manus, Hinduism.Jpg Manus

    ‘In The Immortals of Meluha, Manu is said to be a prince from south India. His family, the Pandyas having ruled the mythical land of Sangamatamil for many generations. The decadence of the Kings incurred the wrath of the gods. A great deluge submerged the entire civilization. Manu having foreseen this escaped with his followers to the higher northern lands. Manu turned into an ascetic. Eventually Manu’s prayers pacified the gods and the water abated.

    In the South Shiva worship has been in vogue much earlier as Adi Shiva, The Silent Teacher,Dakshina Murthy,First Yogi who initiated Agastya, who initiated Bhogar and Kriya Babaji.

    The we have Lord Subrahmanya called as Murugan and His worship is quite old.

    Though the Tamil Grammar, earliest of Tamil works assigns Varuna, Indra, Vishnu, Murugan(Subrahmanya), and Devi to each of the landmass , Kurinji,Marutham, Mullai, Neydhal and Palai, Shiva always remains in the background as the Chief.

    He is called as the Ancient of the Ancients.

    ‘Munnai Pazhamprutkum Munnaip Pazham Porule’

    He is also called Pirva Yaakaip Periyon’

    That is Eldest though Unborn.

    Sanskrit also calls Him as Ayonija, one who does not stay in the womb.

    We have a lot of references to the South in the Puranas and Ithihasas about Tamils.

    ‘Srimad
    Bhagavatam 11.5.38-40
    kritadishu praja rajan
    kalav icchanti sambhavam
    kalau khalu bhavishyanti
    narayana-parayanah
    kvacit kvacin maha-raja
    dravideshu ca bhurisah
    tamraparni nadi yatra
    kritamala payasvini
    kaveri ca maha-punya
    pratici ca maha-nadi
    ye pibanti jalam tasam
    manuja manujesvara
    prayo bhakta bhagavati
    vasudeve ‘malasayah
    SYNONYMS
    krita- adishu — of Satya and the
    other earlier ages; prajah — the
    inhabitants; rajan — O King; kalau —
    in Kali-yuga; icchanti — they want;
    sambhavam — birth; kalau — in Kali;
    khalu — certainly; bhavishyanti —
    there will be; narayana- parayanah —
    devotees who dedicate their lives to
    the service of Lord Narayana; kvacit
    kvacit — here and there; maha-raja —
    O great monarch; dravideshu — in
    the provinces of South India; ca —
    but; bhurisah — especially
    plentifully; tamraparni — named
    Tamraparni; nadi — the river; yatra —
    where; kritamala — Kritamala;
    payasvini — Payasvini; kaveri —
    Kaveri; ca — and; maha- punya —
    extremely pious; pratici — named
    Pratici; ca — and; maha-nadi — the
    Mahanadi; ye — those who; pibanti —
    drink; jalam — the water; tasam — of
    these; manujah — humans; manuja-
    isvara — O lord of men (Nimi);
    prayah — for the most part; bhaktah
    — devotees; bhagavati — of the
    Personality of Godhead; vasudeve —
    Lord Vasudeva; amala- asayah —
    having spotless hearts.
    TRANSLATION
    My dear King, the inhabitants of
    Satya-yuga and other ages eagerly
    desire to take birth in this age of
    Kali, since in this age there will be
    many devotees of the Supreme Lord,
    Narayana. These devotees will
    appear in various places but will be
    especially numerous in South India.
    O master of men, in the age of Kali
    those persons who drink the waters
    of the holy rivers of Dravida-desa,
    such as the Tamraparni, Krtamala,
    Payasvini, the extremely pious Kaveri
    and the Pratici Mahanadi, will
    almost all be purehearted devotees(
    of the Supreme Personality of
    Godhead, Vasudeva.(http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvars)

    ..

    ाः तस्याम्
    दिशि सुदुर्गमाः |
    कपीइशः कपि मुख्यानाम् स तेषाम्
    समुदाहरत् || ४-४१-७
    7. tasyaam dishi = in that, direction
    of compass; su dur gamaaH = verily,
    impossible, to pass – highly
    impassable; ye ke cana = which of
    those few; sam ut deshaaH = well,
    intended, countries – some countries
    that need be explained; about them;
    saH kapi iishaH = he that, monkeys,
    king of – Sugreeva; teSaam kapi
    mukhyaanaam = to them, monkey,
    prominent ones; sam udaaharat =
    well, illustrated – gave a picture of.
    The king of monkeys Sugreeva gave a
    picture about some of the highly
    impassable countries available in
    southern quarter that need an
    introduction to those prominent
    monkeys bound south. [4-41-7]

    सहस्र शिरसम् विंध्यम् नाना द्रुम
    लता आयुतम् |
    नर्मदाम् च नदीम् रम्याम् महोरग
    निषेविताम् || ४-४१-८
    ततो गोदावरीम् रम्याम् कृष्णावेणीम्
    महानदीम् |
    वरदाम् च महाभागाम् महोरग
    निषेविताम् |
    मेखलान् उत्कलाम् चैव दशार्ण
    नगराणि अपि || ४-४१-९
    अब्रवंतीम् अवंतीम् च सर्वम् एव अनुपश्यत
    |
    विदर्भान् ऋष्टिकान् चैव रम्यान्
    माहिषकान् अपि || ४-४१-१०
    8. sahasra shirasam = thousands, of
    heads [crests]; naanaa druma lataa
    aayutam = numerous, trees,
    climbers, abounding in; vindhyam =
    Vindhya Range; mahaa uraga ni
    Sevitaam = great, snakes, adored by;
    ramyaam narmadaam nadiim ca =
    delightful one, Narmada, river, also;
    tataH = then; ramyaam godaavariim
    = wonderful one, River Godavari;
    mahaanadiim = River Mahaanadi;
    kR^iSNaaveNiim = River Krishnaveni,
    or Krishna; mahaa bhaagaam =
    highly, auspicious one; mahaa uraga
    niSevitaam = by great, snakes,
    adored by; varadaam ca = River
    Varada, also; mekhalaan utkalaam
    caiva = Mekhala, Utkala [in
    territories,] also thus; dashaarNa
    nagaraaNi api = Dashaarna, in cities,
    also; abravantiim avantiim ca =
    Abravanti, Avanti, also; vidarbhaan
    R^iSTikaan caiva = Vidarbha,
    Rishtika, also, thus; ramyaan
    maahiSakaan api = charming
    [kingdom,] in Maheeshaka, even;
    sarvam eva anu pashyata = all
    [everywhere,] thus, closely, see –
    search thoroughly.
    “Search the thousand crested
    Vindhya mountains abounding with
    numerous tress and climbers, then
    the delightful Narmada river
    coursing a little southerly to that
    range, which is adored by great
    snakes, along with wonderful River
    Godavari, as well as River
    Krishnaveni and Maha Nadi, and
    then the greatly auspicious River
    Varada which is an adoration to
    great snakes. And the territories of
    Mekhala, Utkala, the cities of
    Dashaarna, kingdoms of Abravanti,
    Avanti, and Vidarbha, also thus the
    charming kingdom of Maheehaka, are
    to be searched thoroughly. [4-41-10] Valmiki Ramayana Valmiki Ramayana – Kishkindha Kanda – Sarga 41

    We have references to a Tamil King Perunchotru Udiyan Cheralaathan performing Tharpana for the dead in the Mahabharata War in Chera Kingdom.

    He also provided food for both Kaurva and Pandava Armies during the Mahabharata war.

    Vedas mention the spices , Peacocks, Special sandalwood.elephants being imported from the South.

    During Draupadi Swayamvara Tamil Kings were present.

    Tamil Kingas attended Rama and Sita Marriage at Mithila.

    The vanaras were in Kishkinta pre dating Rama and were Shiva worshipers.

    Hanuman is one and is considered to be an Amsa of Shiva, some say He is an Avatar of Shiva.

    Considering all these facts and admitting these facts provided by the Vedas,Puranas,Ramayana and Mahabharata, it is quite probable that he Sanatana Dharma was in place much before what is found in the North.

    Please refer my posts on Shiva’s Marriage date. Agastya Date, Ramayana Mahabharata Dates,Ram’s ancestor Satavrata Manu being a Dravida,Thiruvannamalai Billion Year Old and many more.

    Inputs welcome.

    Citation.

    http://historum.com/asian-history/63682-rama-king-cholar-solar-dynasty-9.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manu_(Hinduism)#Lifespan

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daksha

    The references in Sanskrit on Tamil are numerous.

    I have quoted only a few.

    Tamil references on Sanana Dharma, Vedas, Ramayana and Mahabharata are much more.

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  • Krishna Died Age 89 ? 18 February 3102 Verified

    Krishna Died Age 89 ? 18 February 3102 Verified

    Hinduism does not deal in Fiction.

    It states facts, however improbable it might seem to us.

    While we are not competent to say what is probable or possible in the scheme of things in the Universe,what we can do is to ascertain verifiable facts mentioned in the Puranas and Ithihasa, Epics of Hinduism.

    I, after reasonable research , am convinced of the veracity of the verifiable facts in these Texts, with available knowledge we possess, and the technology we have now.

    Lord Krishna as a child.Image.jpg
    Krishna as a child

    Hence I treat the Puranas and Ithihasas as facts as I would a modern-day scientific paper.

    While the modern-day scientific papers keep changing,for clarity, the facts mentioned in these texts have stood the test of Time, right from the Rig Vedic Period, currently dated at 5000 BC.

    Some times , while sticks to this view, one comes across some seemingly contradictory facts .

    For example the death of Lord Rama preceded the Death of Lord Krishna by a mere 200 years, while according to Puranas these two events were separated by thousands of Years.

    By diligently following the Hindu Texts one can solve these riddles.

    Please read my post on Rama’s death precedes Krishna by 200 Years.

    Now at what did Lord Krishna shed His mortal coil?

    The Bhagavata Purana verse 11.6.25 says that Krishna lived for 125 years on earth. The first verse of Mausal Parva, Mahabharata says that Yudhisthira saw bad omens (because of Krishna’s departure from the earth) after 36 years of ruling after they won the Kurukshetra war. So that means Krishna was about 89 years old at the time of war.
    This corroborates with the view that the age of Kali-yuga started in 3102 BCE, according to Dr. Achar. As stated in the Puranas, Kali-yuga had already begun, but its full influence was held back because of the presence of Lord Krishna. Then when Lord Krishna departed from this world, which is said to have occurred 35 years after the war of Kurukshetra in 3067, making it the year of 3032 BCE, then Kali-yuga began to show more of its effects.

    According to Puranic sources,Krishna’s disappearance marks the end of Dvapara Yuga and the start of Kali Yuga, which is dated to February 17/18, 3102 BCE.

    Astronomically simulated Eclipses and Greek Records place the year at 3031 BC

    The Greek records go on to record that Heracles (Krishna) lived 138 generations before the time of Alexander and Sandrocottas, which was about 330 BCE. This then calculates, based on about 20 years per generation, to roughly 3090 BCE, which is about the right time considering 3102 BCE is the date when Kali-yuga began. Thus, Lord Krishna was a genuinely historical figure who lived about the time of 3200-3100 BCE, having lived to 125 years of age. “According to the epic Mahabharata, Krishna first appears [in the epic] at the time of Draupadi’s wedding, and His departure is exactly 36 years after the war. No information about His birth is available in the epic itself, although there is information about His departure. Krishna observes omens (Mahabharata 14.3.17), similar to the ones seen at the time of the war, now indicating the total destruction of the Yadavas. [Astrological] Simulations show that in the year 3031 BCE, thirty-six years later than 3067 BCE, there was an eclipse season with three eclipses. A lunar eclipse on 20 October was followed by an annular solar eclipse on 5 November, followed by a penumbral lunar eclipse on 19 November, within an interval of 14 days and at an aparvani time. Thus the date of departure of Lord Krishna is consistent with the popular tradition that He passed away 36 years after the war. The information about His birth can be gathered from the Harivamsha and the Bhagavata Purana…. It should be understood, however, that the date of His departure from this world is established on the information in the epic and on the basis of [astronomical] simulations, and it turns out to be 3031 BCE’

    Refernces.

    Matchett, Freda, “The Puranas”, p 139 and Yano, Michio, “Calendar, astrology and astronomy” in Flood, Gavin (Ed) (2003). Blackwell companion to Hinduism. Blackwell Publishing. ISBN 0-631-21535-2.

    http://www.dandavats.com/?p=13686

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krishna

    * Counter claims to this date shall be discussed in another Post.

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  • Varaha Avatar Validated By Continental Shift Triassic Animals

    I have posted articles, based on Hindu Puranas, Ithihasas and the references found in the Vedas, the Scriptures of the Hindus,that the world was practicing Sanatana Dharma.

    This is supported by archeological’ literary and cultural evidence found in India and the other parts of the world.

    Now this theory is validated by Geology and movement of Tectonic plates.

    Of the ten Avatars of Vishnu, four are recorded to have been in the Satya Yuga.

    ”

    1. Matsya, the fish, from the Satya Yuga. Vishnu takes the form of a fish to save Manu from apocalypse, after which he takes his boat to the new world along with one of every species of plant and animal, gathered in a massive cyclone.
    2. Kurma, the tortoise, from the Satya Yuga. When the devas and asuras were churning the Ocean of milk in order to getamrita, the nectar of immortality, the mount Mandara they were using as the churning staff started to sink and Vishnu took the form of a tortoise to bear the weight of the mountain.
    3. Varaha, the boar, from the Satya Yuga. He appeared to defeat Hiranyaksha, a demon who had taken the Earth, orPrithvi, and carried it to the bottom of what is described as the cosmic ocean in the story. The battle between Varaha and Hiranyaksha is believed to have lasted for a thousand years, which the former finally won. Varaha carried the Earth out of the ocean between his tusks and restored it to its place in the universe.
    4. Narasimha, the half-man/half-lion, from the Satya Yuga. The rakshasa (An evil person) Hiranyakashipu, the elder brother of Hiranyaksha, was granted a powerful boon from Brahma, not allowing him to be killed by man or animal, inside or out, day or night, on earth or the stars, with a weapon either living or inanimate. Vishnu descended as an anthropomorphic incarnation, with the body of a man and head and claws of a lion. He then disembowels the rakshasaat the courtyard threshold of his house, at dusk, with his claws, while he lay on his thighs.

    We are now in Kali Yuga.

    The Yuga calculation is as under.

    ” The duration of the Satya-yuga is therefore 4,800 x 360, or 1,728,000 years. The duration of the Tretā-yuga is 3,600 x 360, or 1,296,000 years. The duration of the Dvāpara-yuga is 2,400 x 360, or 864,000 years. And the last, the Kali-yuga, is 1,200 x 360, or 432,000 years in total.” (Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 3.11.19) . These 4 yugas follow a timeline ratio of (4:3:2:1).”

    Now to Continetal Shift and Movement of Tectonic Plates.

    Three anicient periods are reelvant here.

    The Triassic Period 248 – 206 million years ago.

    The Jurassic Period 206-144 million years ago.

    The Cretaceous Period 144-65 million years ago.

    These three form Mesozoic Era.

     

    Leaving aside our Kali Yuga, which is 5116 Years old, we have to go back  2160000 years to reach Satya Yuga, that is 2.2 Millon Years.

     

    On checking up the Animal Kingdom I have found  Lystrosaurus, one of the earlier mammals resemble the Varaha.

    Here is The Lystrosaurus Image.

    Lystrosaurus Herd on Rock .jpg
    Lystrosaurus .Click to enlarge

     

    Varaha in Erect posture.

    Varaha Image.jpg
    Varaha.

    I have used Free Images, for detailed and better Images Google Images.

    And you can click on the Animals in the period mentioned by visiting the first Link provided at the end of this post.( animals can be found in the first column of  the page in the site)

    Many animals of that Era are similar to the descriptions found in the Puranas.

    The Puranas and Ithihasa were not fantasizing about the animals or the Avatars.

    I am restricting myself only to the animals found in that period.

    On land mass and the movement of Tectonic Plates , I will be psoting shortly.

    I will be posting an article as to why Sanatna Dharma relics are found throughout the world, with geological proof.

    And is there any connection between the Grand Canyon Natural Vishnu temple, Patala Loka( which I have shown as the Americas of Today in my earlier post)?

    Citation.

     

    http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/dinosaurs/mesozoic/Triassic.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dashavatara

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/604667/Triassic-Period/225838/Terrestrial-reptiles-and-the-first-mammals

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