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  • Accept Hinduism To Convert Hindus, Christianity

    If you want to defeat some one whom you think is your enemy, join the enemy, become one with him follow his customs.

     

    All this to win him over.

     

    Christians wanted to convert non Christians.

     

    The term used for this shameless act of converting others is Evangelism, as if there are no Angels anywhere.

     

    The Jesuits came against a brick wall in Hinduism with its sound philosophy and way of Life.

     

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    Nazraney Sthambams

     

    The had no clue to convert  Hindus .

     

    The tactics that worked elsewhere did not help them.

     

    The sought the help of the Holy See.

     

    The received instructions to become one with the Hindus b adopting their customs including Upaveeda.

     

    These are called Malabar Rites.

     

    Read the History from The Catholic Encyclopedia.

     

    Malabar Rites.

     

    ”

    A conventional term for certain customs or practices of the natives of South India, which the Jesuitmissionaries allowed their neophytes to retain after conversion, but which were afterwards prohibited by theHoly See. The missions concerned are not those of the coast of southwestern India, to which the nameMalabar properly belongs, but those of inner South India, especially those of the former “kingdoms” of Madura,Mysore and the Karnatic.

    The question of Malabar Rites originated in the method followed by the Jesuits, since the beginning of the seventeenth century, in evangelizing those countries. The prominent feature of that method was a condescending accommodation to the manners and customs of the people the conversion of whom was to be obtained. But, when bitter enemies asserted, as some still assert, that the Jesuit missionaries, in Madura,Mysore and the Karnatic, either accepted for themselves or permitted to their neophytes such practices as theyknew to be idolatrous or superstitious, this accusation must be styled not only unjust, but absurd. In fact it is tantamount to affirming that these men, whose intelligence at least was never questioned, were so stupid as to jeopardize their own salvation in order to save others, and to endure infinite hardships in order to establish among the Hindus a corrupt and sham Christianity.

    The popes, while disapproving of some usages hitherto considered inoffensive or tolerable by the missionaries, never charged them having adulterated knowingly the purity of religion. On one of them, who had observed the “Malabar Rites” for seventeen years previous to his martyrdom, the Church has conferred the honour ofbeatification. The process for the beatification of Father John de Britto was going on at Rome during the hottest period of the controversy upon the famous “Rites”; and the adversaries of the Jesuits assertedbeatification to be impossible, because it would amount to approving the “superstitions and idolatries” maintained by the missioners of Madura. Yet the cause progressed, and Benedict XIV, on 2 July, 1741, declared “that the rites in question had not been used, as among the Gentiles, with religious significance, but merely as civil observances, and that therefore they were no obstacle to bringing forward the process”. (Brief of Beatification of John de Britto, 18 May, 1852.) There is no reason to view the “Malabar Rites”, as practised generally in the said missions, in any other light. Hence the good faith of the missionaries in tolerating the native customs should not be contested; on the other hand, they, no doubt, erred in carrying this tolerationtoo far. But the bare enumeration of the Decrees by which the question was decided shows how perplexing it was and how difficult the solution.

     

    Robert de Nobili.

     

    The founder of the missions of the interior of South India, Roberto de Nobili, was born at Rome, in 1577, of a noble family from Montepulciano, which numbered among many distinguised relatives the celebrated Cardinal Roberto Bellarmine. When nineteen years of age, he entered the Society of Jesus; and, after a few years, the young religious, aiming at the purest ideal of self-sacrifice, requested his superiors to send him to the missions of India. He embarked at Lisbon, 1604, and in 1606 was serving his apostolic apprenticeship in SouthIndia. Christianity was then flourishing on the coasts of this country. It is well known that St. Francis Xavierbaptized many thousands there, and from the apex of the Indian triangle the faith spread along both sides, especially on the west, the Malabar coast. But the interior of the vast peninsula remained almost untouched. The Apostle of the Indies himself recognized the insuperable opposition of the “Brahmins and other noble castes inhabiting the interior” to the preaching of the Gospel (Monumenta Xaveriana, I, 54). Yet his discipleswere not sparing of endeavours. A Portuguese Jesuit, Gonsalvo Fernandes, had resided in the city of Madurafully fourteen years, having obtained leave of the king to stay there to watch over the spiritual needs of a fewChristians from the coast; and, though a zealous and pious missionary, he had not succeeded, within that longspace of time, in making one convert. This painful state of things Nobili witnessed in 1606, when together with his superior, the Provincial of Malabar, he paid a visit to Fernandes. At once his keen eye perceived the causeand the remedy.

     

    At Rome the explanations of Nobili, of the Archbishop of Cranganore, and of the chief Inquisitor of Goa brought about a similar effect. In 1614 and 1615 Cardinal Bellarmine and the General of the Society wrote again to the missionary, declaring themselves fully satisfied. At last, after the usual mature examination by the Holy See, on 31 January, 1623, Gregory XV, by his Apostolic Letter, “Romanae Sedis Antistes”, decided the question provisionally in favour of Father de Nobili. Accordingly, the codhumbi, the cord, the sandal, and the baths were permitted to the Indian Christians, “until the Holy See provide otherwise”; only certain conditions are prescribed, in order that all superstitious admixture and all occasion of scandal may be averted. As to the separation of the castes, the pope confines himself to “earnestly entreating and beseeching (etiam atque etiam obtestamur et obsecramus) the nobles not to despise the lower people, especially in the churches, by hearing the Divine word and receiving the sacraments apart from them”. Indeed, a strict order to this effect would have been tantamount to sentencing the new-born Christanity of Madura to death. The popeunderstood, no doubt, that the customs connected with the distinction of castes, being so deeply rooted in theideas and habits of all Hindus, did not admit an abrupt suppression, even among the Christians. They were to be dealt with by the Church, as had been slavery, serfdom, and the like institutions of past times. The Churchnever attacked directly those inveterate customs; but she inculcated meekness, humility, charity, love of theSaviour who suffered and gave His life for all, and by this method slavery, serfdom, and other social abuses were slowly eradicated.

     

    Besides the Brahmin saniassy, there was another grade of Hindu ascetics, called pandaram, enjoying less consideration than the Brahmins, but who were allowed to deal publicly with all castes, and even holdintercourse with the pariahs. They were not excluded from relations with the higher castes. On the advice ofNobili, the superiors of the mission with the Archbishop of Cranganore resolved that henceforward there should be two classes of missionaries, the Brahmin and the pandaram.

     

    Citation.

     

    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09558b.htm

     

     

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  • Roman Brahmin With Upaveeda, Bible Lost Veda

    If people who read my post ‘Christians posing  as Brahmins, new method of Conversion’ are struck with the idea to be original, they are wrong.

     

    Their predecessor,not only posed as a Brahmin from Rome, he also wore the sacred thread,Upaveeda.

     

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    Roberto de Nobili.

     

    He had the Upaveeda sanctioned be a Pope!

     

    He wore Sandal paste on his forehead, wooden sandals on his feet, had a Kudil(Asrama in Sanskrit)

     

    He learnt Tamil and wrote Thembavani, a Tamil work on the Life of Christ.

     

    He propagated that the Bible was the Lost Veda.

     

    The gentleman, who is venerated b the ilks of frauds like Karunanidhi is none other than Robert De Nobili and his work on Jesus was a compulsory

     

    portion from standard  Ten (4 Form as it was called when I studied, some 45  Years back, it was still there when my son studied some 15 Years back)

     

    Roman Brahmin!
    The man who laid the foundation of inculturation was the Italian priest Robert de Nobili (1577-1656). He learnt Sanskrit and Tamil, wore saffron robes, sacred thread (attached with a small Cross!) and sandal mark on forehead and called himself a ‘Roman Brahmin’. He set up an “Ashram” in Madurai, became a vegetarian and used “Pathukas” (wooden footwear). He claimed the Bible was the “Lost Veda”, the “Jesuit Veda” revealed by God, and was considerably successful in harvesting souls. Fortunately for Tamil Nadu, his European masters were not happy with his inculturation methods and subjected him to an enquiry which forced him to shift to other places like Trichy and Salem. Finally he settled in a small house in Santhome, Madras, and died in 1656. ..

     

    talian Munivar!
    The next Italian missionary, Constantine Joseph Beschi (1680-1746), called himself Veeramaamunivar (Veer-Maha-Munivar) to pretend he was a great lover of Tamil. Outwardly conducting himself like a Hindu Sanyasi, he took care of the conversion business in the districts of Madurai and Thanjavur. His work on a biography of St. Joseph, Thembaavani, was hyped as a great work and projected as equivalent to Kambar’s Ramayana!

    Even now it is propagated that impressed with the beauty and richness of Kamba Ramayana, Beschi wanted to create a similar Christian work and hence came out with Thembaavani. It benefitted Christianity by establishing St. Joseph in Tamil Nadu. He then came out with another work, Paramartha Guruvum avarin Seedarkalum (Paramartha Guru and his Disciples), to ridicule our centuries old ‘Guru-Sishya Parampara.’ This “Munivar”, who denigrated our Guru-Sishya Parampara, was honoured by Dravidian racists who installed a statue of him on Marina Beach.4

    German Iyer!
    In the same period, a German missionary Barthalomaus Ziegenbalg (1683-1719) also worked in Tamil Nadu and called himself Ziegenbalg Iyer. This Protestant priest landed in Tranquebar (Tharangampaadi) in 1706 and worked with a Danish company which was the first to bring German printing machines to Tamil Nadu. He printed the first Tamil Bible (New Testament). Even while indulging in conversions, he often quarrelled with the Danish authorities who put him in jail for some time. He was the first to stoke anti-Brahmanism by creating a hatred for Brahmins among other communities. As he fell sick often, he died at the age of 36 in 1719, leaving behind two Churches, a training institute for converted Indian priests, and 250 converts in Tranquebar. 5

    Italian Iyer
    Next in the list of Christian Priests who “served” the cause of inculturation was another ‘Iyer’ – G.U. Pope (1820-1907) or ‘Pope Iyer.’ He translated a few Tamil literary works such as Thiruvaachakam, Thirukkural and Naaladiyaar, and said he could find the teachings of Apostle St. Paul and St. Francis of Assisi in Sri Maanickavaachakar’s Thiruvaachakam; innocent Tamil scholars felt elated at his ‘graciousness’.

    Even some Tamil Saivite Mutts felt proud at G.U. Pope’s statement. Tamil scholar Muthukumaraswamy, who has in-depth knowledge on Saiva Siddhanta, demolishes this myth, citing Pope’s own statement, “In the whole legendary history of this sage … there stands out a real historical character, which seems to be a mixture of that of St. Paul and of St. Francis of Assisi. Under other circumstances what an apostle of the East might have become,” as evidence of Pope’s sarcasm and disdain. He exposes the mindset of G.U. Pope who states that a Religious Guru from the East would not have attained a spiritual level beyond this in order to undermine the spiritual greatness of Sage Maanickavaachakar.

    Dr. Muthukumaraswamy quotes another instance where G.U. Pope ridicules murti worship or vigraha aradana: “G.U. Pope says that a person who attains a higher level of spiritualism also indulges in Murti worship and rustic rituals, which go totally against his level of spiritualism.” 6

    There is another concocted story about G.U. Pope in Tamil Nadu which says that Pope wanted the statement, “Ingu oru Thamizh Maanavan urangukiraan” (A Tamil student is sleeping here) sculpted on his cemetery and that the statement is still present there on his cemetery. But those who have gone to the cemetery have confirmed that there was no such statement written on his cemetery except the ones from the Bible.

    Born in Montepulciano, Tuscany in September 1577, Roberto de Nobili arrived in Goa in western India on May 20, 1605. It is probable that he met here Fr Thomas Stephens, SJ, who had arrived in Goa in 1579, and was probably in the process of composing his Khristapurana.[1]

    After a short stay in Cochin in Kerala, he took up residence in Madurai in Tamil Nadu in November 1606. He soon called himself a “teacher of wisdom” (தத்துவ போதகர்), and began to dress like a Sannyasin. Claiming noble parentage he approached high-caste people, and eagerly engaged in dialogue with Hindu scholars about the truths of Christianity.

    De Nobili mastered Sanskrit, Telugu and Tamil languages and literature, with the help of his teacher, Shivadharma. As he expounded the Christian doctrine in Tamil he coined several words to communicate his message. He used the word “kovil” (கோவில்) for a place of worship, “arul” (அருள்) and “prasadam” (பிரசாதம்) for grace, “guru” (குரு) for priest or teacher, “Vedam” (வேதம்) for the Bible, “poosai” (பூசை) for Mass, etc.

    He adopted also local Indian customs, such as shaving one’s head and keeping only a tiny tuft. He wore a white dhoti and wooden sandals, to don the look of a sanyasin. Another symbol he embraced was the wearing of a three-stringed thread across the chest. He interpreted the three-stringed thread as representing the Holy Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

    He was one of the first Europeans to gain a deep understanding of Sanskrit and Tamil. He composed Catechisms, apologetic works and philosophic discourses in Tamil, and contributed greatly to the development of modern Tamil prose writing.

     

    His method raised a fierce controversy among his fellow Jesuits and with the Archbishop of Goa Cristóvão de Sá e Lisboa. The dispute was settled by Pope Gregory XV with the Constitution Romanæ Sedis Antistes issued on 31 January 1623. The customs of the three-stringed thread, the tuft, the use of sandalwood paste on the forefront and baths were allowed, inasmuch they did not imply any superstitious ritual. The Pope invited also the Indian neophytes to overcome their caste sensitivity and their despisal of the pariahs.

     

    Citation.

    http://vsrc.in/%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B1%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B8%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D/item/54-inculturation-the-most-potent-weapon-in-the-church-s-armoury

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_de_Nobili

     

     

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  • Buy Cattle,Convert Forcibly Christians New Tactics

    I have posted an article on how Christians pose as Brahmins to covert Hindus into Christianity.

     

    That was quite novel and weird I thought.

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    Christian Missionaries Target Hindus.

     

    Still more to com, I never imagined.

     

    It seems that these Christian groups have joined forces with Multinational Companies in an effort to destroy local cattle first b offering Money to bu the Cattle and simultaneously cajoling and threatening farmers that it was only Jesus who was born in a Cattle shed and only he could  save the Cattle,Hindu temple priests being Frauds.

     

    The Brainwashing, terrorizing team arrives in threes and twos.

     

    The aim seems to be twofold.

     

    1.By offering money, entice people to convert.

    2.By offering to buy the local cattle,inject them with artificial insemination  drugs, ensue that the local cattle population is wiped out.

     

    What has injecting Cattle to do with Religious Conversion?

     

    In Villages,Tamil Nadu, there is the custom of dedicating cattle to Temples.

     

    Cattle are worshiped.

     

    The condition is that these cattle must be Local Cattle, not artificially inseminated.

     

    The thinking of the Christian groups seems to be that b ensuring that there are less number of local cattle, the can reduce the number of people using Cattle to worship and prevent them from going to Temples.

     

    By reducing the number of local cattle, the can prevent Youngsters from following local custom of  engaging the Cattle in a Race-this normally is done during Temple festivals

     

    And the money offered si Rs. Three Lakhs per Cattle-head.

     

    In the process the companies marketing  these products ,get business and like Monsanto, the villagers once the use these, will have to depend only on these companies.

     

    The horror is that the cattle thus bought is sent to other States to be killed and sold as beef, the major Business going the Kerala way.

     

    Let me list he essential features of this Operation Cattle.

     

    1.Approach a villager , as a group,,in backward village  who has only health Cattle as a means of Livelihood.

     

    2.Offer him money for the Cattle.

     

    3. Simultaneously cajole, threaten him into Converting to Christianity.

     

    This is happening in Nallampatty, Perunthurai Taluk, Erode District  Tamil Nadu.

     

    Following is the News  Story in Tamil.

     

    As usual, no media Coverage!

     

    ஈரோடு அருகில் சேலம்-கோவை மெயின் ரோட்டில் உள்ளது பெருந்துறை. பெருந்துறை சரித்திர பழமை வாய்ந்த ஊர். மதமாற்றம் என்பதை அங்கீகரிக்காத ஊர். மேட்டுபாங்கான பகுதியாதலால் இங்கு ஐம்பது வருடங்களுக்கு முன்பு வரை மானாவரி விவசாயமே. காய்ந்த காலங்களில் நாட்டு மாடு மேய்த்து, மழை காலங்களில் சோளம், வரகு, எள், போன்றவைகளை பயிர் பண்ணி, வருவோர்க்கு நாட்டு மாட்டு மோரும், சோள சோறும் இட்டு விரும்தோம்பலுக்கு பெயர் பெற்றவர்கள் இப்பகுதி மக்கள். இத்தாலூகாவின் சில பகுதிகளில் கீழ்பவானி வாய்க்கால் பாசனம் இடையில் வந்தது. கரும்பு, நெல், வாழை, மஞ்சள் என மக்கள் பயிர்களை மாற்றினர். மாட்டையும் மாற்றினர். நாட்டு மாடுகளுக்கு பதில் சீமை மாடுகளுக்குச் சென்றனர். பால் கறந்து ஊற்றி லாபமில்லாமல் பொருளாதார வீழ்ச்சி அடைந்து உடல் நலம் கெட்டு, மனநலம் கெட்டு போயினர்…

     

    பின்வாசல் வழியே ஆப்ரகாமிய பாதிரிகள் 
    லோன் கேட்ட சில வாரங்களில் இரண்டு இளம்வயது பாதிரிகள் (நன்கு டக்-இன் செய்துகொண்டு) மார்ச் மாத கடைசியில் இந்த நாட்டு மாட்டு விவசாயியை சந்தித்து கோவையிலிருந்து வந்துள்ளதாக கூறியுள்ளார்கள். TN 74 ரெஜிஸ்திரேசன் கொண்ட யூனிகாரன் பைக்கில் வந்துள்ளனர். இந்த நாட்டு மாட்டு காளைகள் மூன்றையும் மூன்று லட்சம் ரூபாய்க்கு எங்களிடம் கொடுத்து விடுங்கள்.
    உங்களுக்கு கிர், தார்ப்பார்க்கர் போன்ற வடநாட்டு மாட்டு ஊசிகளை இலவசமா தருகிறோம்; உங்கள் நாட்டு மாடுகளுக்கு இதனை இட்டு கலப்பின மாடுகளை உருவாக்குங்கள். இப்படி உருவாகும் கலப்பின மாடுகள் நன்கு பால் கறக்கும். இந்த கொங்க மாடுகள் எல்லாம் வேஸ்ட் என்று பிரச்சாரம் செய்திருக்கிறார்கள். இப்படி கூறியவுடன் அந்த விவசாயி உறுதியுடன் நாட்டு மாடுகளை வளர்ப்பதே என் லட்சியம் இவையெல்லாம் தேவையில்லாத ஒன்று என்று கூறி அவர்களை திருப்பியனுப்பியுள்ளார்.

     

    இரண்டுமணி நேர மூளை சலவை
    பின் இருபது நாட்கள் கழித்து ஏப்ரல் 17 ஆம் தேதி அந்த இரண்டு நபர்களும் மேலும் ஆறு பேருடன் வந்துள்ளார்கள். அன்று ஊரில் மாரியம்மன் பண்டிகையாதலால் வீட்டில் விவசாயியின் மனைவி மற்றும் பெரியோர்கள் யாருமில்லை. அந்த சமயத்தில் ரெஜிஸ்திரேசன் செய்யப்படாத மஹிந்திரா சைலோ காரில் ஐம்பது வயது மதிக்கத்தக்க பாதிரி ஒருவரும், முப்பது வயதில் இருவர், இருபது வயதில் மூன்று பேர் என ஒரு கும்பலாக வந்துள்ளனர். அனைவரும் நாகர்கோயில், மதுரை மற்றும் சென்னை பாஷைகளில் பேசியுள்ளனர். சுமார் இரண்டுமணி நேரம் மூளை சலவை செய்துள்ளனர். அவர்கள் கூறியவைகளாவது,

    • இந்த நாட்டு மாட்டை வைத்து நீங்கள் முன்னேற முடியாது,
    • உங்கள் காளை மாடுகளை எங்களிடம் விற்றுவிடுங்கள் மூன்று லட்சம் ரூபாய்க்கு வாங்கிக்கொள்கிறோம்.
    • கிர், தார்ப்பார்க்கர் போன்ற வடநாட்டு மாட்டு ஊசிகளை இலவசமா தருகிறோம்; உங்கள் நாட்டு மாடுகளுக்கு இதனை இட்டு கலப்பின மாடுகளை உருவாக்குங்கள்
    • அய்யர் (குலகுரு) போலி. யாகங்கள் செய்யறது ஒண்ணுக்கும் பயனில்லை. அவரை வைத்து கோ பூஜை பண்றது தப்பு,
    • ஏசுதான் மாட்டுக்கொட்டாயில் பிறந்தார். அவர்தான் நம்மை காக்க முடியும்,
    • இலவசமா போர்வெல் (ஆழ்துளை கிணறு) போட்டுத்தருகிறோம்.
    • இலவசமா உங்க வீட்டுக்கு ஜன்னல் அமைத்துத்தருகிறோம்,
    • வாரம் ஒருமுறை எங்கள் பாதர் வந்து ஜபம் செய்வார். அவர் வரும் நேரங்களில் கிடைக்கிற வருமானம் அனைத்தும் உங்களுக்குத்தான்,
    • உங்களது இடத்தில் இருபது சென்டில் எங்களுக்கு இடம் ரெஜிஸ்டர் செய்து வைக்க வேண்டும்,
    • உங்களது மாட்டு அர்க்கம், சோப்பு, ஷாம்பு போன்றவற்றை உலகம் பூரா மார்கெட்டிங் பண்ணித்தருகிறோம்,
    • உங்களுக்கு எவ்வளவு காசு வேண்டுமானாலும் தருகிறோம்.

     

    இப்படியெல்லாம், ரெண்டுமணி நேரம் அந்த விவசாயியை வீட்டு மாட்டு கொட்டகையில் வைத்து பேசியுள்ளார்கள். விவசாயி போன் பேச அனுமதிக்கவில்லை. எட்டு பேரும் சுற்றி நின்று மிரட்டல் தொனியிலேயே பேசியுள்ளார்கள். விவசாயி செய்வதறியாது அவர்கள் கூறுவதை கேட்டுகொண்டு இருந்துள்ளார். இவ்வளவு நேரம் பேசிக்கொண்டுள்ளோம் ஒரு இளநி போட்டு தாங்க என்று கேட்டுள்ளனர். உடனே, விவசாயி என்னிடம் இளநி போட தென்னை மரமில்லை என்று பதிலளித்துள்ளார். உடனே, அவர்கள் உங்களிடம் இத்தனை ஏக்கர் இருக்கிறது. இத்தனை தென்னை மரங்கள் இருக்கிறது என்று சரியாக கணக்கு வைத்துக் கூறியுள்ளனர். விவசாயி தன்னைப்பற்றி இவர்கள் இவ்வளவு தெரிந்து வைத்துள்ளனரே என்று நினைத்து அதிர்ச்சியடைந்துள்ளார். பின்னர் நாங்கள் மீண்டும் வருவோம் என்று கூறி விட்டு சென்றுள்ளனர்.

     

    பத்து நாட்கள் கழித்து பெருந்துறையிலிருந்து போன் செய்து நாங்கள் வீட்டிற்கு வருகிறோம் என்று கூறியுள்ளார்கள். விவசாயி அவர்களை வரச்சொல்லிவிட்டு முதல்முறை பேச்சுவார்த்தையின் போதே மிரட்டும் தொனியில் பேசிய அவர்களின் நடவடிக்கையை மனத்தில் கொண்டு அவர்களுடன் தனியாக பேச்சுவார்த்தையில் ஈடுபட வேண்டாம் என்ற எண்ணத்தில் ஊர்மக்களை அழைத்து வைத்திருந்தார். இதற்கிடையில் மீண்டும் அவர்கள் போன் செய்து ““ஊர்மக்களை திரட்டி வைத்துள்ளாய். நீ திருந்த மாட்டாய். நீ எங்களிடம் திரும்பி வருவாய். எங்கள் உதவி உனக்கு தேவைப்படும்” என்று கூறி போனை கட் செய்துவிட்டனர்.

     

    பாரம்பரியத்தையும், காளைகளையும் ஒழிக்க திட்டம் 
    மதமாற்றம் செய்வது கிறிஸ்தவர்களின் நோக்கமாக இருந்தாலும், கொங்க காளைகளை வாங்க மூன்று லட்சம் ரூபாய் பாதிரிகளுக்கு எங்கிருந்து வருகிறது? காளைகளை ஏன் வாங்க நினைக்கிறார்கள்? வாங்கிய மாடுகள் எங்கே போகிறது? ஏன் வடநாட்டு மாடுகளை கலப்பினமாக்க நினைக்கிறார்கள்? போன்றவை யோசிக்கவேண்டியவை. குலகுரு செய்யும் கோ பூஜையை தடுக்க நினைக்கின்றனர்.

     

    குலகுரு, பசு, காளைகள் போன்றவைகள் நாட்டில் பெருகுவதை அவர்கள் விரும்பவில்லை. மேன்மேலும், கலப்பினங்களை வலியுறுத்துவதிலேயே வந்தவர்கள் குறியாக இருந்துள்ளார்கள். நாட்டு காளைகளை ஒழித்து கிராமத்தில் நாட்டு மாடுகள் இனவிருத்தி ஆகக்கூடாது என்பது அவர்களது எண்ணம். நாட்டு மாடுகளை வளரவிடகூடாது என்று கிறிஸ்தவர்கள் குறியாக இருக்கிறார்கள். சமீபத்தில் வெளியான ஜல்லிக்கட்டு தடை கூட இதனுடன் சம்பந்தப்பட்டிருக்கலாம். ஜல்லிக்கட்டு இருப்பதாலேயே நாட்டு காளைகளை இனவிருத்தி செய்து நல்ல முரட்டு காளைகளை உருவாக்க இளைஞர்கள் முயற்சிக்கின்றனர். இதனால், பொலிக்காளைகள் நாட்டில் இருப்பதால், நாட்டு காளைகள் இனவிருத்தி ஆகிக்கொண்டே இருக்கிறது. இதனை தடுக்க வேண்டுமெனில், நாட்டு காளைகளை பூண்டோடு அழிக்க வேண்டும். இருக்கவே இருக்கிறது புளூ கிராஸ் மற்றும் விலங்கு பாதுகாப்பு அமைப்புகள். அவைகளை வைத்து சுப்ரீம் கோர்ட்டில் கேஸ் போடுகிறார்கள். அதற்கு நிதியுதவி கூட பெறப்பட்டிருக்கலாம். ஜல்லிக்கட்டு தடை செய்யப்படும். காளைகள் அடிமாட்டிற்கு விற்கப்படும். நாட்டு காளைகள் பூண்டோடு அழியும். இதுதான் இந்த பின்வாசல் மாபியாக்களின் திட்டம். பசுக்களும், காளைகளும் தெய்வமாக ஜல்லிக்கட்டிலும், கோயிலிலும் கும்பிடப்படும் செயல் குறைந்தால்தான் மக்கள் தங்கள் கலாச்சாரத்தை விட்டு சந்தைகலாச்சாரத்திற்கு மாறுவார்கள் என்ற நோக்கமும் உள்ளே இருக்கலாம். நமது கலாச்சாரத்தை முற்றிலும் அழிக்கவேண்டும் என்று மிக நீண்டகாலமாக கிறிஸ்தவர்கள் சதி அதை பல வழிகளிலும் நிறைவேற்றி வருகிறார்கள்.

     

    Citation.

     

    http://vsrc.in/%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%82%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D/item/266-%E0%AE%A8%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%81-%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B3%E0%AF%88%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B3%E0%AF%88-%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B1%E0%AE%BF-%E0%AE%B5%E0%AF%88%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%B1-%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%8D/itemid-140

     

    Image source and More on similar issues.

    http://worldhindunews.com/2014010716241/indian-christian-missionaries-plan-to-convert-hindus-opposed-by-sanatan-sanstha-members/

     

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  • How To Worship Without Christ and Satan

     

    Over the past few weeks I have received eight mails to my personal ID, asking me whether they would go to Hell if the y do not worship Jesus Christ and partake in Holy Communion.

     

    The next question is what Religion they should follow.

     

    Which God one should worship?

     

    Does Hinduism allow people to convert to another Religion?

     

    Can they return t Hinduism again?

     

    I have reproduced a comment received for my post Who is a Hindu?FAQs.

     

    This more or less sums all the questions addressed to me.

     

    Before I answer let me add this post about Christianity and Christian bashing for it is not my job till they attack Hinduism.

     

    I have replied suitably when it is warranted.

     

    In this case it is not so.

     

    It is rather the effect the Christian preachers spreading Fear psychosis among the weak.

     

    The questions..

     

     

    AUM of Hinduism.Image.jpg.
    Om of Hinduism.
    “SACHIN PRABHAKAR MURDESHWAR9h

    Dear Sir, Is any caste superior compared to others.To whom we should pray and offer our rituals.If God exist then it is obvious Satan also exist,and if anybody is possesed by a devil, then who is the right deity who can deliver us from all evil. Christians claim that only Jesus can relieve you provided you convert,take baptism be approved to take bread & wine(holy body and blood of christ,to get completely cured of all evil possesion.Otherwise they say if you don’t convert the satan will strike again and again.Do you believe in black magic? I want a solution because i have seen such situation when doctors themselves say this is exhorcism and out of our control,pray to God? Iam a hindu,please suggest?”

     

    This is the result of the preachers of Christianity who scream and shout in their meetings scaring people making them believe that they are exorcising

    ghosts.

     

    Give the fellow a peg, he hall laugh it off.

     

    I have seen this personally.

     

    Time the Government took action on these people for establishing individuals and disturbing mental peace.

     

    1.Is any Caste Superior to others?

     

    No. It is the quality of character, discipline and selflessness that determines a Caste.

     

    It is Human Nature to feel proud when one is noticed because of His good Character.

     

    Such people must learn humility.

     

     

    2.Whom should we offer Rituals? Which Religion to follow and which God to worship?

     

    Religion is a question of one;s personal faith.

     

    One is free to follow any faith any God one likes and feels comfortable with.

     

    Important point is that if you follow one Religion , you should be steadfast in it.

     

    Frequent changes would weaken the mind.

     

     

    Worship the god your Religion tells you.

     

    If you are a Hindu, continue worshiping what your parents worshiped , Your family Deity or the God you like among those in Hinduism.

     

    Follow the Rituals that were followed by your ancestors.

     

    3.Existence of Satan.

     

    It is wrong to conclude that if God exists Satan must exist.

     

    This misinformation is the result Christianity.

     

    This is logically not tenable.

     

    If Satan exists along with God, who is supposed to be Omniscient, Omnipresent and Omniscient then you ae limiting the power of God as the existence of

     

    Satan will limit God’s attributes described here.

     

    I shall be posting an article as to how the existence of two Realities is not tenable.

     

    But, yes, there are evil tendencies and spirits.

     

    They are not equal to God.

     

    And one can conquer these by following some practices.

     

    Please refer my posts on this  subject

     

    If you happen to be a Christian you may follow what Christianity says.

     

    That only Christ can redeem is  non sense.

     

    What has happened to people who were born before Christ was born?

     

    All of them were doomed to hell?

     

    What sort of God is one who punishes who does not believe Him?

     

    Is He so mean?

     

    If yes, he can not be God.

     

    About Baptism.

     

    If one will be redeemed only by Baptism in Christianity, who Baptized  St.John , who is reported to have baptized Christ?

     

    If John was not baptized, he could not have been a Christian.

     

    One must remember the Bible was compiled three hundred years after the Death of Jesus Christ.

     

    As to my belief in Black magic, yes I do.

     

    I am also aware of  how to ward it off.

     

    Do not worry.

     

    Most of the evil possessions are (not all) are expressions of Psychoneurosis and can be cured by visiting a good Psychiatrist .

     

    A word to those who get influenced by the ‘Preachers ‘ of Christianity.

     

    These chaps have to make a Living.

     

    They act and dance to promote their welfare.

     

    None of these guys I know have any idea of Philosophy.

     

    Their Philosophy is “Money’

     

    Image credit.

     

    http://theecstaticpresentation.com/Gurdjieff/Hindu.html

     

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    The article addresses questions received from individuals concerned about religious beliefs, specifically in the context of Christianity and Hinduism. It begins by noting the prevalence of fears instilled by Christian preachers regarding salvation through worship and participation in sacraments, which the author views as a form of psychological manipulation.

    Key points include:

    1. Caste Superiority: The author argues that no caste is superior; character and discipline define a person’s worth.
    2. Personal Faith: Choosing a religion and deity is a personal decision. The importance lies in commitment to one’s faith rather than frequently changing beliefs.
    3. Existence of Satan: The author challenges the idea that the existence of God necessitates the existence of Satan, describing this belief as a misunderstanding propagated by Christianity. Instead, they emphasize the presence of evil tendencies, which can be overcome through certain practices.
    4. Baptism and Redemption: Questions about baptism and its significance are raised, particularly regarding the fate of those who lived before Christ. The author argues against the notion that only baptism can provide redemption.
    5. Mental Health: The article suggests that many experiences attributed to possession can often be explained by psychological issues, advocating for professional help over religious exorcism practices.

    In conclusion, the author critiques the motivations of religious preachers who instill fear for personal gain and encourages readers to seek truth and mental peace beyond such influences.

  • Jesus Married Mary Papyrus Authenticated

    I was intrigued when I read the Book The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown where he mentions that Jesus Christ was married to Mary Magdalene , they had a

    child and the heir to Jesus , a girl, was living in France.

     

    Papyrus sys Jesus was married and it is auhentic
    An ancient papyrus, pictured, suggesting Jesus married Mary Magdalene, is genuine

     

    And that Jesus appointed Mary to carry on with his Ministry.

     

    I cheeked the facts and Dan Brown was correct.

     

    I have posted articles on this.

     

     

    Before proceeding further in this story we need to remember that The Bible was compiled some 300 years after the death of  Jesus Christ by Constantine in a conclave of cardinals in an effort to retain his Roman Empire.

     

    Over 300 legends about Jesus were collected and the conclave chose those that met with the approval of Constantine.

     

    This is the Bible.

     

    Recent emergence of a text indicated that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene.

     

    The document was called a modern Forgery.

     

    Now by carbon dating the document indicating that Jesus was married to marry Magdalene is  not a forgery and is genuine.

     

    Story:

     

    The studies, published Thursday in the Harvard Theological Review, represent the latest chapter in the years-long saga surrounding what Harvard theologian Karen King has dubbed the Gospel of Jesus’ Wife. King brought the text into the global spotlight in September 2012, at a symposium in Rome, but the publication of her analysis was held up for more than a year when questions were raised about the text’s authenticity.

     

    …The fragmentary text, written in an Egyptian Coptic language, is controversial not only because Jesus appears to refer to his wife, but also because it discusses the worthiness of a woman named Mary for what might have been a leadership role. Here are a couple of other intriguing phrases: “she will be able to be my disciple” … “I am with her,” as in “I dwell with her.”…..

     

    The papyrus fragment was purportedly acquired by an East German collector in the 1960s, sold to its current owner in 1999, and made available to King for study in 2011. The owner has remained anonymous, adding to the mystery surrounding the scrap’s origins.

    Skeptics, including Vatican officials, insisted that the text was a modern-day forgery because the phrases were ungrammatical and appeared to be inexpertly cribbed from other apocryphal scriptures in circulation.

    To settle the argument, researchers subjected the business-card-sized scrap of papyrus to radiocarbon tests and micro-Raman spectroscopy. One of the carbon-dating tests indicated that the papyrus went back somewhere between the year 659 and 869, with the most likely date around 741. Other tests showed that the chemical makeup of the ink was consistent with inks that were used between the first and the eighth century.

    Citation. NBC News.

    Jesus was Married.

     

     

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