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  • Why Love Happens Tamil Answers

    Recently I came across a question in a Facebook Community.

    ‘Why does Love happen’?

    People may brush it aside as silly but it needs an answer.

    Lovers Portrayed ina temple in Tamil Nadu.jpg
    Lovers Portrayed ina temple in Tamil Nadu

    I did not see any relevant answer to the question.

    In life we see people falling in Love, some of them,if succesful’ lead a Happy married Life

    Even among those successful in getting married, the unhappiness  after marriage rate is high.

    I am speaking of Love and not what is now portrayed as a convenient arrangement for  one’ security.

    Now I find whether it be a boy or a Girl,  contrary to what many think, do not fall in Love without deliberation.

    They check the financial position, the responsibilities one has to bear and decide to fall in Love.

    In my opinion this is not Love.

    This is a deliberate arrangement to ensure smooth Life, whether that myth remains through out Life is another matter.

    Love is a passion that surges forward at a specific point for no known reason.

    Shakespeare put it,

    ‘Whoever loved that loved not at first sight’

    How and why does this Love happen?

    I checked Tamil literature for Tamil classical literature is a reflection of ancient Tamil life and offers solution to any aspect of Life.

    Tamil language has a separate grammar called Kalaviyal, they have treated Life as a part of language evolution.

    While marriage as an institution was  given its due, Tamils were practical in assigning a place for love and have laid certain rules for Love!

    This is Called Kalaviyal,களவியல்,  Kalavu,one of its meaning, is on the Sly.

    I shall be posting on this later.

    What does Tamil say on Love happening?

    Tamil acknowledges that neither marital status nor finanicial one has anything to do with it.

    It happens to all at any age.

    The value judgement on this is a different matter,

    There are rules even for this.

    The first available book on Tamil Grammar says thus,

     

    ““ஒன்றே வேறே என்றிருபால் வயின்
    ஒன்றி யுயர்ந்த பால தாணையின்
    ஒத்த கிழவனும் கிழத்தியும் காண்ப
    மிக்கோ னாயினும் கடிவரை யின்றே” (களவியல் – 2)’ Tolkaapiyam.

    Love between a Man and a woman happens because of…’Fate”

    Note that Tolkaapiyam is careful in saying ‘between Aman and woman,implying that there were other relationships as well.

    I tend to agree that Love, Marriage, Children and Profession is the handiwork of Fate, our protestations notwithstanding.

    Sanatan Dharam says much the same.

     

     

     

  • Brahmins Organized Indian Marriage System Tholkappiyar

    I have often wondered who organized the Marriage System (Monogamy) in India.

     

    Though marriage is considered to be sacred in Hinduism and has elaborate Rituals to solemnize and conduct marriages, I have not been able to find any definite information on who organized this system of marriage.

     

    Marriage ceremony.jpeg.
    Hindu Marriage ceremony.

     

    I could not find the origin of marriage details from the Puranas, Vedas or Ithihasas.

     

    All these texts glorify and explain the rituals connected with Marriage.

     

    The first written record  on who organized marriage as a System is found in the ancient Tamil Grammar Book, Tholkappiyam, written by Tholkappiar (between 3rd century BCE and the 3rd century CE), a disciple of Sage Agasthya.

     

    He states that the society was being ruined by indiscriminate copulation ,involving Lies, frauds.

     

    Hence  Brahmins organized the system of marriage.

     

    “மேலோர் மூவர்க்கும் புணர்த்த கரணம்
    கீழோர்க்காகிய காலமும் உண்டே (1090)
    பொய்யும் வழுவும் தோன்றிய பின்னர்
    ஐயர் யாத்தனர் கரணம் என்ப (1091) Tholkappiyam.

     

    Here there is a rider.

     

    Marriage as a system which was in existence for the three Varnas(மேலோர் மூவர்க்கும்) is now being set for the Fourth Varna by the Brahmins.

     

    Meaning of the text.

     

    Marriage as a System, which was in existence for three varnas, is now set for the fourth varna by Brahmins

     

    Information to enrich the article welcome.

  • No Dowry Signed Inscription Virinchipuram Temple

    Dowry, the amount paid to the  Bridegroom by the Bride’s parents does not have the sanction of the Vedas or Smriti.

    How ever this practice was an is being followed in certain communities in India.

    The term Kanyadan , name for marriage, from the brides side , means gifting the Virgin Girl.

    Virinjipuram Temple.jpg
    Virinchipuram Maragathambihai samedha Margabandheeswarar temple near Vellore, Tamil Nadu

    The term Panikgrahana from the Bridegroom’s side means ‘Holding the hand’

    This practice of dowry has played havoc in many a girl’s life.

    This obnoxious practice seems to have been in existence .at least, before 1300 AD.

    And people were concerned.

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    Kanyddaan, Gifting the Daughter.

    To such an extent an edict, sanctioned by the King and signed by the Brahmins find a place in a Temple’s inscription in Tamil.

    ”

    A Tamil Inscription from Margabandeswarar Temple in Virinchipuram offers some respite for DOWRY, THE SOCIAL CURSE that has vexed Brahman community during the reign Devaraya II (reigned 1432–46), Vijayanagara emperor.
    Agreement against Dowry by Brahmanas of the kingdom of Padaividu
    This inscription refers to the Brahmana Dharma (Sacred Law of Brahmans) and specific reference to the Brahmanas of the kingdom of Padaividu (town of  Padavedu – previously known as Padaividu – now in the Polur Taluk, Thiruvannamalai district) including Karnataka, Tamil, Telugu and Lata (the old name of Gujarat) Brahmanas. An agreement, signed by the representatives of Brahmanas of the kingdom of Padaividu , vouch to conduct marriages in their families as mere ‘Kanyadhana.’ – the part of the marriage ceremony where the bride’s father only gives away the bride to the bridegroom”
    ..
    Inscription inside the front gopura of the Virinchipuram Temple
    (No.56 Inside the front gopura of the Virinchipuram temple, second inscription to the right: III – Inscriptions at and near Virinchipuram. Tamil and Grantha Inscriptions. South Indian Inscriptions)
    Tamil Text
    சுபமஸ்து. ஸ்வஸ்தி ஸ்ரீ . ஸ்ரீமன் மகா ராஜாதிராஜ பரமேசுவரரான ஸ்ரீ வீரபிர
    தாப தேவராய மகாராஜர் ப்ரித்விராஜ்யம் பண்ணி அருளானின்ற சகாப்தம்
    1347ழின் மேல் செல்லானின்ற விஸ்வாசு வருஷம் பங்குனி மாதம் 3க்கு
    சஷ்டியும் புதன்கிழமையும்பெற்ற ஆநுசத்து நாள், படைவீட்டு இராஜ்யத்து
    அஸேஷவித்யமஹாஜநங்களும் அகர்கபுஷ்கரணி கோபிநாத ஸன்னதியிலே
    தர்ம ஸ்தாபந மையபத்ரம் பண்ணி குடுத்தபடிஇற்றைய நாள்முதலாக இந்த படைவீட்டு ராஜ் யத்து பிராமணரில்
    கன்ன(டி)கர் தமிழர் தெலுங்கர் இலாளர் முதலான ஆஸேஷ கோத்திரத்து
    அஸேஷசூத்தரத்தில் அஸேஷகையிலவர்களும் விவாஹம் பண்ணுமிடத்து,
    கன்னியாதானமாக விவாஹம் பண்ணக் கடவராகவும் கன்னியாதானம்
    பண்ணாமல் பொன் வாங்கி பெண் கொடுத்தால், பொன் கொடுத்து விவாஹம்
    பண்ணினால், ராஜ தண்டத்துக்கும் உட்பட்டு பிராமண்யத்துக்கும்
    புறம்பாகக் கடவரென்று பண்ணின தர்ம ஸ்தாபன மைய பத்ரம்; இப்படிக்கு
    அஸேஷ வித்ய மகாஜனங்கள் எழுத்து

    Translation    Let there be Prosperity! Hail! On the day of (the nakshatra) Anusham (Anuradha Star constellation) which corresponds to Wednesday, the sixth lunar day, the 3rd (solar day) of the month of Panguni (Tamil Calendar month) of the Visvavasu (Tamil Calendar year) year, which was current after the Saka (Shalivahana calendar) year 1347 (had passed),  while the illustrious maharajadhiraja-parameswara, the illustrious Virapratpa-Devaraya-maharaja was pleased to rule the earth,-the great men of all branches of sacred studies of the kingdom (rajyam) of Padaividu drew up, in the presence of (the god) Gopinatha (of) Arkapushkkarini, a document (which contains) an agreement fixing the sacred law. According  to (this document), if the Brahmanas of this kingdom (rajyam) of Padaividu, viz., Kannadigas, Tamilas, Telungas, Ilalas, etc.,of all gotras, sutras,  and  sakhas conclude a marriage, they shall, from this day forward, do it by kanyadana. Those who do no adopt kanyadana, i.e., both those who give away after having received gold, and those who conclude a marriage after having given gold, shall be liable to punishment by the king and shall be excluded from the community of Brahmanas. These are the contents of the document which was drawn up.

    The following are the signatures of the great men of all branches of sacred studies:-

    Virinchipuram Maragathambihai samedha Margabandheeswarar temple
    Virinchipuram Maragathambihai samedha Margabandheeswarar temple is located near Vellore town in the Chennai-Bangalore Highway.
    The east facing temple is around 1300 years old and is very rich in extraordinary sculptures and artistic pillars.
    The legend is found in  Arunachala Puranam, Siva Rahasiyam, Kanchi puranam and many other holy books . Aadhi Shankaracharyar did the Beejakshara Pradhishtai to the Simha theertham of the temple.
    The temple was venerated by Thirumoolar, Pattinathar, Thirugnana Sambhandhar, Appar, Arunagirinadhar,
    Appayya Dikshithar and few others.
    The holy tree is palm and the holy water tanks include Simha Theertham, Sooli Theertham and Brahma Theertham.
    Citation:
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  • 12 Kinds Of Sons Puthra Puthri Explanation

    I have recently published an article ‘Hinduism on Children and Illegitimate Children”

     

    I mentioned in the Post that the term Puthra denotes Son, Puthra means one who prevents parents entering a hell called ‘Pu or Puth”

     

    I received a valid  comment that if that were so, what about Puthri(Daughter)?

    Sons and daughters.jpg
    Sons Daughters

     

    The term Puthra has many meanings ; one indicates ‘Deliver”

     

    That is one who delivers parents   from Puth.

     

    Likewise Puthri has multiple meanings, one being worthy daughter.

     

    In the case of a daughter the term Puthri is used in this sense.

     

    Now there is some more interesting information on sons in Hinduism

     

    There are twelve kinds of sons.

     

    They are,

     

    ”

    1/. Aurasputra.
    A son born to a wife of his own caste begot by the husband himself is called aurasputra.

    2/. Kshetrajaputra.
    If one dies without children or is impotent or possessed of a disease, his wife is lawfully allowed to lie with the brother of the husband to get a child. The son born of such a union is called ksetrajaputra.

    3/. Dattaputra.
    When one is worrying miserably for getting a son and if at that time a husband and wife willingly hand over a son born to them by mutual consent with the following words :”This son becomes your own from now on,” with a religious sprinkling of water, such a son is called dattaputra.

    4/. Kritrimaputra.
    A son adopted from one’s own caste for the purpose of doing the obsequial ceremonies for the manes is called kstrimaputra.

    5/. Guudhotputra.
    A son born to one’s wife by another man is called guudhotputra.

    6/. Apaviddhaputra.
    Where a son is rejected by either a father or mother or by both and that son is taken care of and brought up by another man, that son becomes an apaviddhaputra.

    7/. Kaninaputra.
    If a son is born to a virgin before marriage while living with her father, that son is called a kaninaputra.

    8/. Sahodhaputra.
    When a girl is married while pregnant the son born to her after marriage is called a sahodhaputra.

    9/. Krtakaputra.
    A son purchased and bought up by a sonless man is called krtakaputra.

    10/. Paunarbhavaputra.
    A son born to a woman after becoming a widow or after being divorced by her husband by her willingly going with another man is called a paunarbhavaputra.

    11/. Swayamdattaputra.
    When a son after becoming an orphan or after being abandoned by his parents goes willingly to another man and remains with him as his son is called Swayamdattaputra.

    12/. Shaudraputra.
    A son born to a brahmin of a shudra wife is called a shaudra (paarashava) putra.

    In general, as a rule in this yuga (Kali yuga) only putra conceived into his own wife’s womb by the husband is allowed, and considered putra, as some of the others, due to the low and lusty nature of the qualities of this yuga some or all of these could be abused by unscrupulous men of this age.

     

    Citation.

    http://www.salagram.net/putra.htm

  • Imposition On Steps Wife I Was Wrong

    Over  a couple of weeks my posts were becoming a little too serious, I realized today.

    Here is the amend.

    I was wrong on Steps.
    Man writes on Steps I was wrong-To wife
    Apology on Steps
    Apology to wife .On steps

    A man in China apologized to his wife in a novel way,

    By writing ‘I was wrong’ in 340 steps.

    Read and enjoy.

    “On Wednesday this week, locals discovered the message “Wife, I was wrong” written in what appears to be yellow chalk all the way up a flight of stone steps in the Pingdingshan Forest Park in China’s Liaoning Province.

    ..

    Native Chinese or not, writing that number of kanji characters by hand must have taken the repentant scribbler quite some time, so they will undoubtedly be rather irked to learn that local authorities promptly removed the messages, commenting to reporters that the park is a shared space and not a place for individuals to selfishly vandalise. We only hope that “wife” happened to pass by the park while the messages were still there to be seen.

    Neither the identity of the individual who wrote the messages nor their reasons for doing so are known, but the general consensus online is that this that the man had likely cheated on his wife and, with the secret out, decided to do something to atone for his sins.”

    Source:

    http://en.rocketnews24.com/2014/01/31/wife-i-was-wrong-message-found-scrawled-on-300-steps-in-a-park-in-china/

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