Tag: Lord Rama’s Birth date

  • Ramayana Scientific Dating Wrong?

    It is one thing to be happy about the fact that the Ramayana and Mahabharata are proved by Dating them through internal references in the Epics, like the Astronomical phenomena and  the structures detailed in the Epics,like the Rama Sethu or Adam’s Bridge:Dwaraka of Lord Krishna, the list is more.

    I have posted articles on this subject.

    Normally when I post some controversial topic, I, some times, deliberately leave out some information  in the article which I have presented,it, when taken to its logical end, would lead one to more queries on the subject and at times question the original premise.

    My readers are very astute and they point the fact out.

    My purpose is served because the readers have taken the issue seriously and have referred to the original Epics.

    That is my purpose of writing this Blog, especially on Hinduism and Indian Philosophy.

    One issue which, for quite some time has escaped scrutiny was the dating of the Ramayana and the Mahabharata.

    Some of my popular posts on Ramayana Dates were written about two years ago.

    Now one of the readers, Mr.Pradeep Singh caught the point when he sent in a comment.

    Suggest changing dates as it conflicts scientific evidence. As you know that Dwarika is about 35000 yrs old per carbon dating and saraswati river carbon dating also do not infer what you are saying dates for Ramayan. I suggest you do more research and change dates. ALSO Look at Purans, bhavisya puran. People read your views so I am concerned that many people will get wrong message.”

    Yes Mr,Pradeep Singh, the omission was deliberate and am happy that you caught it.

    Let me explain.

    The four Yuga Details.

    SATYA YUGA – (sometimes also called krta-yuga): the golden age lasts 1,728,000 years.

    TRETA YUGA – also called the silver age, lasts 1,296,000 years.

    DVAPARA YUGA – or the bronze age, lasts 864,000 years.

    KALI YUGA – the iron age of hypocrisy and quarrel lasts 432,000 years.

    Ramayana took place in Treta Yuga.

    “Kali yuga starts on the day of SREE KRISHNA PARAMATHMA’S departure to Vykunda, & Lord’s departure was 5111years back,(from 2009)

    SREE RAMAVATHAR was at the 2nd half of Thretha yuga

    therefore RAMAYANA was happened before 8,69,111years ago

    Source:

     

    Astrological magazine of B.V. Raman (1971, february edition).”
    So the Ramayana date should be around 8, 69,000 back.
    Now on to Ramayana dates.
    Rama Sethu. The Adams; Bridge connecting India at Rameswaram and Sri Lanka.

    Sri Lanka may not be an Island nation after all – a chain of limestone shoals called Ram Setu or Pamban Bridge remains faint evidence to the former land connection between the Mannar islands of northwestern Sri Lanka and Rameswaram in the Indian southwestern coast.

    The 3 ft to 30 ft depth of the sea surrounding this 30 miles (48 km) long bridge is not good enough to allow proper navigation. Earlier there used to be a regular ferry service between Talaimannar of Sri Lanka and Rameswaram of India, which is currently withheld due to the continuing civil disorder within Lanka.

    The first mention of this reportedly man-made bridge was found in the accounts of Ibn Khordadbeh in his Book of Roads and Kingdoms. Since then, it has been attributed with several names like Set Bandhai, meaning ‘Bridge of the Sea‘, Rama’s Bridge and Adam’s Bridge.

    The Islamic legends state that it was used by Adam to traverse the route to Adam’s Peak in Sri Lanka to repent for 1000 years, during which he kept standing on one foot. This perhaps explains the large footprint hollow you can find on the Peak.

    On the other hand, the Indian or rather the Hindu legend behind this superbly curved sandstone bridge relates it to the epic Ramayana. Accordingly, it is deemed to be built by the ‘vanara sena’ (monkey army) of the glorious incarnation of Shri Rama, the hero of the epic, to rescue his holy wife Sita from the clutches of Ravana, who ruled over Lanka.

    The radiocarbon dating of the bridge verges on around 1,750,000 years, which roughly coincides with the Indian estimate of the mythical ‘Treta Yuga’.

    The space footages of the Ram Setu provided by NASA has neither confirmed nor rejected these controversial claims. Contrary to the Vaishnava News Network’s insistence on the Rama legend, after taking its 2002 remote sensing images, NASA simply stated that the much-hyped bridge was only a naturally formed chain of shoals and refused to comment on the possible human involvement in its construction”

    Rama’s Birth Date:
    “This planetary configuration was prevailing on the January 5, 5089 BC, and it was on this day that Shri Ram left Ayodhya for 14 years of exile.

     

    Thus, he was 25 years old at that time (5114-5089).

     

    There are several shlokas in Valmiki Ramayana which indicate that Shri Rama.

     

    was 25-years-old when he left Ayodhya for exile. Valmiki Ramayan refers to the solar eclipse at the time of war with Khardushan in later half of 13thyear of Shri Rams’ exile. It is also mentioned it was amavasya day and Mars was in the middle. When this data was entered, the software indicated that there was a solar eclipse on October 7, 5077 BC, (amavasyaday) which could be seen from Panchvati.

     

    The planetary configuration was also the same – Mars was in the middle,

     

    On one side were Venus and Mercury and on the other side were Sun and Saturn.

     

    On the basis of planetary configurations described in various other chapters, the date on which Ravana was killed works out to be December 4, 5076 BC, and Shri Ram completed 14 years of exile on January 2, 5075 BC, and that day was also Navami of Shukla Paksha in Chaitra month. Thus Shri Ram had come back to Ayodhya at the age of 39 (5114-5075).”

     

    This is the anomaly.

     

    The Yugas, Time calculation of Hindus
    The Yugas are circular.They keep recurring and do not move forward

     

    Adam’s Bridge gives the date about ,1750,00 years ago, which is way earlier to 8,69,111years.

     

    The other one based on Lord ram’s birth dates Ramayana by mere 7000 years( 5000 B.C)

     

    Asoka Vatika is also dated thus.

     

    Why?

     

    The reason is that Time, according to Hinduism , is Non Linear and is Circular.

     

    That is Time goes around in Circles and is not forward moving.

     

    In other words there is no past, no present no future.

     

    Time is a continuous flow.

     

    Please read my post on  Time Non Linear filed under Astrophysics and my post Ram’s death precedes Krishna’s by 200 Years.

     

    I mentioned in these posts The Ramayana and the Mahabharata are happening now, had happened and will happen all at the same time.

     

    Difficult to digest.

     

    Isn’t it?

     

    Think about it.

     

    Truth always is.

     

    Read some of my posts on Multiverse, Quantum and Indian Philosophy filed under Astrophysics and Indian Philosophy respectively.

     

    Source:

     

    http://ramanisblog.in/2012/04/05/ramayana-lord-ramas-exile-date-and-other-details/

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  • Ramayana, Lord Rama’s Exile Date and other Details

     

    The story of Shri Rams’ life was first narrated by Maharishi Valmiki in the Ramayana, which was written after Shri Ram was crowned as the king ofAyodhya. Maharishi Valmiki was a great astronomer as he has made sequential astronomical references on important dates related to the life ofShri Ram indicating the location of planets vis-a-vis zodiac constellations and the other stars (nakshatras).

    Similar position of planets and nakshatras is not repeated in thousands of years.

     

    By entering the precise details of the planetary configuration of the important events in the life of Shri Ram as given in the Valmiki Ramayana in the software named “Planetarium” corresponding exact dates of these events according to the English calendar can be known.

     

    Mr Pushkar Bhatnagar, of the Indian Revenue Service, had acquired this software from the US. It is used to predict the solar/lunar eclipses and distance and location of other planets from earth. He entered the relevant details about the planetary positions narrated by Maharishi Valmiki and obtained very interesting and convincing results, which almost determine the important dates starting from the birth of Shri Ram to the date of his coming back to Ayodhya after 14 years of exile. ( This in formation has been blogged by me  ‘Lord Rama’s Birth Date/Route taken by Lord Rama to Sri Lanka)

     

    Shri Ram was born in Ayodhya. This fact can be ascertained from several books written by Indian and foreign authors before and after the birth of Christ – ValmikiRamayan, Tulsi Ramayan, Kalidasas’ Raghuvansam, Baudh and Jain literature,

     

    These books have narrated in great detail the location, rich architecture and beauty of Ayodhya which had many palaces and temples built all over the kingdom. Ayodhya was located on the banks of the Saryu river withGanga and Panchal Pradesh on one side and Mithila on the other side.

     

    Normally 7,000 years is a very long period during which earthquakes, storms, floods and foreign invasions change the course of rivers, destroy the towns/buildings and alter the territories. Therefore, the task of unearthing the facts is monumental.

     

    The present Ayodhya has shrunk in size and the rivers have changed their course about 40 km north/south. Shri Ram went out of Ayodhya in his childhood (13th year as per Valmiki Ramayana) with Rishi Vishwamitra who lived inTapovan (Sidhhashram). From there he went to Mithila, King Janaks’ kingdom. Here, he married Sita after breaking Shiv Dhanusha.

     

    Researchers have gone along the route adopted by Shri Ram as narrated in the Valmiki Ramayan and found 23 places which have memorials that commemorate the events related to the life of Shri Ram. These include :

    Shringi Ashram,

    Ramghat,

    Tadka Van,

    Sidhhashram,

    Gautamashram,

    Janakpur (now in Nepal),

    Sita Kund, etc.

    Date of exile of Shri Ram: It is mentioned in Valmiki Ramayans’ Ayodhya Kand (2/4/18) that Dashrathawanted to make Shri Ram the king because Sun, Mars and Rahu had surrounded his nakshatra and normally under such planetary configuration the king dies or becomes a victim of conspiracies.

     

    Dashrathas’ zodiac sign was Pisces and his Nakshatra was Rewati.

    Lord Rama with Hanuman.jpg.
    Lord Rama with Hanuman.

     

    This planetary configuration was prevailing on the January 5, 5089 BC, and it was on this day that Shri Ram left Ayodhya for 14 years of exile.

     

    Thus, he was 25 years old at that time (5114-5089).

     

    There are several shlokas in Valmiki Ramayana which indicate that Shri Rama.

     

    was 25-years-old when he left Ayodhya for exile. Valmiki Ramayan refers to the solar eclipse at the time of war with Khardushan in later half of 13thyear of Shri Rams’ exile. It is also mentioned it was amavasya day and Mars was in the middle. When this data was entered, the software indicated that there was a solar eclipse on October 7, 5077 BC, (amavasyaday) which could be seen from Panchvati.

     

    The planetary configuration was also the same – Mars was in the middle,

     

    On one side were Venus and Mercury and on the other side were Sun and Saturn.

     

    On the basis of planetary configurations described in various other chapters, the date on which Ravana was killed works out to be December 4, 5076 BC, and Shri Ram completed 14 years of exile on January 2, 5075 BC, and that day was also Navami of Shukla Paksha in Chaitra month. Thus Shri Ram had come back to Ayodhya at the age of 39 (5114-5075).

     

     

    A colleague, Dr Ram Avtar, researched on places visited by Shri Ram during his exile, and sequentially moved to the places stated as visited byShri Ram in the Valmiki Ramayan, starting from Ayodhya he went right to Rameshwaram.

     

    He found 195 places which still have the memorials connected to the events narrated in the Ramayana relating to the life of Shri Ram and SitaThese include Tamsa Tal (Mandah), Shringverpur (Singraur), BhardwajAshram (situated near Allahabad), Atri Ashram, Markandaya Ashram (Markundi), Chitrakoot, Pamakuti (on banks of Godavari), Panchvati, Sita Sarovar, Ram Kund in Trimbakeshwar near Nasik, Shabari Ashram,Kishkindha (village Annagorai), Dhanushkoti and Rameshwar temple.

     

    In Valmiki Ramayan it is mentioned that Shri Rams’ army constructed a bridge over the sea between Rameshwaram and Lanka.

     

    After crossing this bridge, Shri Rams’ army had defeated Ravana.

     

    NASA put pictures on the Internet of a man-made bridge, the ruins of which are lying submerged in Palk Strait between Rameshwaram and SriLanka.

     

    Recently the Sri Lankan Government had expressed the desire to develop Sita Vatika as a tourist spot. Sri Lankans believe this was Ashok Vatika Where Ravana had kept Sita as a prisoner (in 5076 BC).

     

    Indian history has recorded that Shri Ram belonged to the Suryavansh and he was the 64th ruler of this dynasty. The names and other relevant particulars of previous 63 kings are listed in Ayodhya ka Etihaas written about 80 years ago by Rai Bahadur Sita Ram. Professor Subhash Kak of Louisiana University, in his book, The Astronomical Code of the Rig Veda, has also listed 63 ancestors of Shri Ram who ruled over Ayodhya.

     

    Sri Rams’ ancestors have been traced out as: Shri Ram, King Dasaratha  King Aja, King Raghu, King Dilip and so on. From Kashmir to Kanyakumariand from Bengal to Gujarat, everywhere people believe in the reality of Shri Rams’ existence, particularly in the tribal areas of Himachal,Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh and the North-East.

     

    Most of the festivals celebrated in these areas revolve around the events in the life of Shri Ram and Shri Krishna. The events and places related to the life of Shri Ram and Sita are true cultural and social heritage of every Indian irrespective of caste and creed. Therefore, it is common heritage.

    After all, Shri Ram belonged to the period when Prophet Mohammed or Jesus Christ were not born and Muslim or Christian faiths were unknown to the world.

     

    The words Hindu (resident of Hindustan) and Indian (resident of India) were synonymous. India was also known as Bharat (land of knowledge) and Aryavarta (where Aryans live) and Hindustan (land of “Hindus” – derived from word Indus). During Ram Rajya, the evils of caste system based on birth were non-existent. In fact, Maharishi Valmiki is stated to be of Shudra class (scheduled caste), still Sita lived with him as his adopted daughter after she was banished from Ayodhya.

     

    Luv and Kush grew in his ashram as his disciples. We need to be proud of the fact that Valmiki was perhaps the first great astronomer and that his study of planetary configurations has stood the test of times. Even the latest computer softwares have corroborated his astronomical calculations, which proves that he did not commit any error.

     

    Shabri is stated to be belonging to the Bhil tribe. Shri Rams’ army, which succeeded in defeating Ravana, was formed by various tribas from Central and South India.

     

    Taking into account these details the Birth date of Lord Rama  is January 10 in the year 5114 BC.

    http://www.hindu-blog.com/2007/09/book-on-when-was-lord-ram-born.html

     

    Related:

    http://ramanisblog.in/2012/10/13/last-days-of-rama-date-of-death/

     

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