I have written quite a few articles on the total identities of Gods in Hinduism.
None is higher than or lower than the other.
In fact, worship of personal Gods is not the message of the Vedas.
The Reality is a Principle.
It is called Brahman
It is beyond Attributes.
It is called Nirguna.
Yet, worship of Gods is followed in Hinduism.
Hinduism understands the limitations of the human mind.
One can not concentrate on Nothing.
The mind needs an Icon.
This Icon varies according to one’s disposition,Swabhava.
One likes Mother and he worships God as Mother.
In a lighter vein, why should Gods be Human beings?
Because we are human beings,we imagine Gods to be Super Human beins.
If a dog were to think of God,it would envision a Super Dog!
So the worship of Gods is to facilitate concentration which would help in Self Realization.
For more please read my article Is there God ,Yes and No.
I have written on Shiva Stuthi by Krishna,Krishna Stuthi by Shiva,Mantrarajapadam by Rudra on Narasimha.
Yet people persist on trying to differentiate Shiva and Vishnu.
In one of the articles, I have written that Lord Rama worshiped Shiva at Rameswaram.
I have been receiving a lot of brickbats for this article,asking me to provide proof from Valmiki Ramayana.
I do not normally respond to these type of comments from people who do not check.
Here I make an exception in producing evidence as this blog is considered authentic and used as references in Phd and is being quoted in research papers and Wiki.
I owe them this much.
Lord Rama,while returning to Ayodhya after the war at Sri Lanka by Pushpaka Vimana describes the places he had visited to Sita.
He describes Rameswaram as the place where Shiva showered His Blessings on Him( Rama)
Here is the text and translation from Valmiki Ramayana.
19. etat = this; (is the island); kukShau = located in the middle; samudrasya = of the ocean; skandhaavaara niveshanam = where my troops were stationed; atra = at this place; puurvam = formerly; prabhuH = the Lord; mahaadevaH = Shiva (the supreme deity); akarot = bestowed; prasaadam = his grace; (on me).
“See this island, located in the middle of the ocean, where my troops were stationed. At this place, the lord Shiva (the supreme deity) formerly bestowed his grace on me.”
Meaning:
This bride named Sri Sita is offered in holy wedlock to you:
She belongs to Yajur Veda, She belongs to Pravara consisting of the three Rishis viz., Aangirasa, Aayaasya and Goutama, She belongs to Goutama Gotra,
She is the Queen of the 14 worlds, She is the head of the entire BrhmaaNDam consisting of innumerable aNDaas, She is the one who permeates all the ChEtana and AchEtana Tattvas,
She is the one who illuminates the lineage of the moon (Chandra Vamsam), She shows extraordinary compassion to all those who surrender unto her,
She is the one who is born from the Sacrificial pit (Yaaga VEDi), She holds in her hand the lotus flower, She has the gait of a swan, She has bewitching eyes like the flower of the blue-black water lily (Neithal) flower,
She wears divine garlands, dresses and ornaments, She has her chest smeared with fragrant perfume of sandal paste, She has her locks of hair in an attractively wavy fashion,
She wears a whitish yellow colored silk saree with borders designed in the form of swans, She wears a scented upper cloth that shines in a natural red hue,
However Rama finds a mention and there is a Upanishad Rama Rahsyopanishad.
Read my post on this.
Vedas mention Rama and Ramayana mentions Vedas.
Which is earlier?
I shall be posting on this interesting subject.
Now to many Ramayanas.
Valmiki is called the Adi Kavi and the Ramayana is the Adi Kavya-the first Literary work(of Mankind)
Yet there is a version of Ramayana considered older than Ramyana .
And it was suppressed so that one Valmiki Ramayana gets prominence.
This is the HanumanRamayana by Hanuman!
After the victory of Rama over Ravana, Hanuman went to the Himalayas to continue his worship of the Lord Rama.
There he scripted a version of the Ramayana on the Himalayan mountains using his nails, recording every detail of Rama’s deeds.
When Maharishi Valmiki visited him to show him his own version of the Ramayana, he saw Hanuman’s version and became very disappointed.
When Hanuman asked Valmiki the cause of his sorrow, the sage said that his version, which he had created very laboriously, was no match for the splendour of Hanuman’s, and would therefore go ignored. At this, Hanuman discarded his own version, which is called the Hanumad Ramayana.
Maharishi Valmiki was so taken aback that he said he would take another birth to sing the glory of Hanuman which he had understated in his version.
Later, one tablet is said to have floated ashore during the period of Mahakavi Kalidasa, and hung at a public place to be deciphered by scholars
Kalidasa is said to have deciphered it and recognised that it was from the Hanumad Ramayana recorded by Hanuman in an extinct script, and considered himself very fortunate to see at least one pada of the stanza.
Lord Chathur-Mukha Jaya Maruthi with four Veda faces, inscribed His version of Lord Shri Ram’s divine story as MARUTHI RAMAYANA on hundreds of thousands of rocks. Even though the MARUTHI RAMAYANA pre-dates the Valmiki Ramayana, Lord Jaya Maruthi Hanuman wanted Maharishi Valmiki’s Ramayana to become famous as the first Ramayana and so He did not announce His own version. Such is Hanuman’s deep humility, broad mindedness and magnanimity…
After Hanuman had set fire to the entire Kingdom of Lanka with his tail, his whole body was consumed in flames and he was burning in pain and was very thirsty.
It is one thing to be happy about the fact that the Ramayana and Mahabharata are proved by Dating them through internal references in the Epics, like the Astronomical phenomena and the structures detailed in the Epics,like the Rama Sethu or Adam’s Bridge:Dwaraka of Lord Krishna, the list is more.
I have posted articles on this subject.
Normally when I post some controversial topic, I, some times, deliberately leave out some information in the article which I have presented,it, when taken to its logical end, would lead one to more queries on the subject and at times question the original premise.
My readers are very astute and they point the fact out.
My purpose is served because the readers have taken the issue seriously and have referred to the original Epics.
That is my purpose of writing this Blog, especially on Hinduism and Indian Philosophy.
One issue which, for quite some time has escaped scrutiny was the dating of the Ramayana and the Mahabharata.
Some of my popular posts on Ramayana Dates were written about two years ago.
Now one of the readers, Mr.Pradeep Singh caught the point when he sent in a comment.
Suggest changing dates as it conflicts scientific evidence. As you know that Dwarika is about 35000 yrs old per carbon dating and saraswati river carbon dating also do not infer what you are saying dates for Ramayan. I suggest you do more research and change dates. ALSO Look at Purans, bhavisya puran. People read your views so I am concerned that many people will get wrong message.”
Yes Mr,Pradeep Singh, the omission was deliberate and am happy that you caught it.
Let me explain.
The four Yuga Details.
SATYA YUGA – (sometimes also called krta-yuga): the golden age lasts 1,728,000 years.
TRETA YUGA – also called the silver age, lasts 1,296,000 years.
DVAPARA YUGA – or the bronze age, lasts 864,000 years.
KALI YUGA – the iron age of hypocrisy and quarrel lasts 432,000 years.
Ramayana took place in Treta Yuga.
“Kali yuga starts on the day of SREE KRISHNA PARAMATHMA’S departure to Vykunda, & Lord’s departure was 5111years back,(from 2009)
SREE RAMAVATHAR was at the 2nd half of Thretha yuga
therefore RAMAYANA was happened before 8,69,111years ago
Source:
Astrological magazine of B.V. Raman (1971, february edition).”
So the Ramayana date should be around 8, 69,000 back.
Now on to Ramayana dates.
Rama Sethu. The Adams; Bridge connecting India at Rameswaram and Sri Lanka.
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Sri Lanka may not be an Island nation after all – a chain of limestone shoals called Ram Setu or Pamban Bridge remains faint evidence to the former land connection between the Mannar islands of northwestern Sri Lanka and Rameswaram in the Indian southwestern coast.
The 3 ft to 30 ft depth of the sea surrounding this 30 miles (48 km) long bridge is not good enough to allow proper navigation. Earlier there used to be a regular ferry service between Talaimannar of Sri Lanka and Rameswaram of India, which is currently withheld due to the continuing civil disorder within Lanka.
The first mention of this reportedly man-made bridge was found in the accounts of Ibn Khordadbeh in his Book of Roads and Kingdoms. Since then, it has been attributed with several names like Set Bandhai, meaning ‘Bridge of the Sea‘, Rama’s Bridge and Adam’s Bridge.
The Islamic legends state that it was used by Adam to traverse the route to Adam’s Peak in Sri Lanka to repent for 1000 years, during which he kept standing on one foot. This perhaps explains the large footprint hollow you can find on the Peak.
On the other hand, the Indian or rather the Hindu legend behind this superbly curved sandstone bridge relates it to the epic Ramayana. Accordingly, it is deemed to be built by the ‘vanara sena’ (monkey army) of the glorious incarnation of Shri Rama, the hero of the epic, to rescue his holy wife Sita from the clutches of Ravana, who ruled over Lanka.
The radiocarbon dating of the bridge verges on around 1,750,000 years, which roughly coincides with the Indian estimate of the mythical ‘Treta Yuga’.
The space footages of the Ram Setu provided by NASA has neither confirmed nor rejected these controversial claims. Contrary to the Vaishnava News Network’s insistence on the Rama legend, after taking its 2002 remote sensing images, NASA simply stated that the much-hyped bridge was only a naturally formed chain of shoals and refused to comment on the possible human involvement in its construction”
Rama’s Birth Date:
“This planetary configuration was prevailing on the January 5, 5089 BC, and it was on this day that Shri Ram left Ayodhya for 14 years of exile.
Thus, he was 25 years old at that time (5114-5089).
There are several shlokas in Valmiki Ramayana which indicate that Shri Rama.
was 25-years-old when he left Ayodhya for exile. Valmiki Ramayan refers to the solar eclipse at the time of war with Khardushan in later half of 13thyear of Shri Rams’ exile. It is also mentioned it was amavasya day and Mars was in the middle. When this data was entered, the software indicated that there was a solar eclipse on October 7, 5077 BC, (amavasyaday) which could be seen from Panchvati.
The planetary configuration was also the same – Mars was in the middle,
On one side were Venus and Mercury and on the other side were Sun and Saturn.
On the basis of planetary configurations described in various other chapters, the date on which Ravana was killed works out to be December 4, 5076 BC, and Shri Ram completed 14 years of exile on January 2, 5075 BC, and that day was also Navami of Shukla Paksha in Chaitra month. Thus Shri Ram had come back to Ayodhya at the age of 39 (5114-5075).”
This is the anomaly.
The Yugas are circular.They keep recurring and do not move forward
Adam’s Bridge gives the date about ,1750,00 years ago, which is way earlier to 8,69,111years.
The other one based on Lord ram’s birth dates Ramayana by mere 7000 years( 5000 B.C)
Asoka Vatika is also dated thus.
Why?
The reason is that Time, according to Hinduism , is Non Linear and is Circular.
That is Time goes around in Circles and is not forward moving.
In other words there is no past, no present no future.
Time is a continuous flow.
Please read my post on Time Non Linear filed under Astrophysics and my post Ram’s death precedes Krishna’s by 200 Years.
I mentioned in these posts The Ramayana and the Mahabharata are happening now, had happened and will happen all at the same time.
Difficult to digest.
Isn’t it?
Think about it.
Truth always is.
Read some of my posts on Multiverse, Quantum and Indian Philosophy filed under Astrophysics and Indian Philosophy respectively.
Suggest changing dates as it conflicts scientific evidence. As you know that Dwarika is about 35000 yrs old per carbon dating and saraswati river carbon dating also do not infer what you are saying dates for Ramayan. I suggest you do more research and change dates. ALSO Look at Purans, bhavisya puran. People read your views so I am concerned that many people will get wrong message.”
Yes Mr,Pradeep Singh, the omission was deliberate and am happy that you caught it.
Let me explain.
The four Yuga Details.
SATYA YUGA – (sometimes also called krta-yuga): the golden age lasts 1,728,000 years.
TRETA YUGA – also called the silver age, lasts 1,296,000 years.
DVAPARA YUGA – or the bronze age, lasts 864,000 years.
KALI YUGA – the iron age of hypocrisy and quarrel lasts 432,000 years.