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  • India Beheaded Pakistani Soldiers?

    There have been incursions and killing of Indian Soldiers by Pakistani‘s across the Line of Control(LoC).

    Indian Army Chief confirmed the beading of an Indian soldier by the Pakistanis.

    I am deliberately using the term Pakistanis instead of ‘Pakistani Armed Forces‘ as I am not sure whether this was the work of some elements of the Army and might not have had popular approval.

    As in Life there are always two sides of a Story.

    May be correct.

    Pakistani Kills/beheads Indian Soldier
    Pakistani Kills/beheads Indian Soldier

    The point is if India had crossed the LoC ,and beheaded a Pakistani, why has not Pakistan come out publicly on this?

    However there no denying the Fact that the Indian Electronic Media has become hysterical on this issue, especially The Times Now.

    Retaliation by The Armed Forces is not  decided  in The Media  and I am sure the Government will do it its own way.

    I am surprised at the interviews of serving generals in the Television Channels!

    Read This from ‘The Hindu’

    However, the officials who spoke to The Hindu had a very different account — of how a relatively innocuous incident spiralled into a series of murderous clashes, before culminating in the killing of Lance-Naik Sudhakar Singh and Lance-Naik Hemraj. Both armies, the officials said, engaged in aggressive action, driven by the still-fraught situation on the Line of Control.

    Early in September, 70-year old Reshma Bi, left the village of Charonda, near Uri, to live with her sons and grandchildren across the Line of Control.

    Ms. Reshma and her husband Ibrahim Lohar, a highly-placed military source said, had remained in Charonda after their sons crossed into Pakistan-administered Kashmir several years ago, to escape police investigations of their alleged role in cross-border trafficking. Police officers contacted by The Hindu said that Ms. Reshma appeared to have left in the hope of living out her last years with her family.

    Ms. Reshma’s September 11 flight, a senior Srinagar-based military official said, set off alarms at the Uri-headquartered 19 infantry brigade. There, the incident was seen as highlighting vulnerabilities in defences along this stretch of the Line of Control. Charonda is located within metres of the Line of Control, outside of the three-layer counter-infiltration fencing which runs along the frontier.

    Inside of a week after Ms. Reshma’s departure, troops of the 9 Maratha Light Infantry began constructing observations bunkers around Charonda, seeking to monitor the movement of villagers.

    The construction work — barred by the terms of the Line of Control ceasefire which India and Pakistan agreed on in 2003 — provoked furious protests from Pakistani troops. Indian commanders, the military source said, conceded that the construction was in violation of the ceasefire.

    However, they refused to stop work, arguing that the posts faced out towards the village, posing no threat to Pakistan. Early in October, the official said, tensions began to escalate. Pakistan even made announcements over a public address system, demanding that Indian troops end the construction work.

    Following the announcement, shells followed. Pakistani troops fired mortar and high-calibre automatic weapons at Indian forward positions. The fire missed its intended target, but killed three villagers, 25-year-old Mohammad Shafi Khatana, 20-year-old Shaheena Bano, and a ninth-grade school student, Liaqat Ali. In the weeks leading up to the New Year, military sources said, hardly a week went by without occasional shots being fired at troops headed to the new observation posts.

    Finally, on January 6, matters came to a head. Following a low-grade exchange of fire that night, 19 Infantry Division commander Gulab Singh Rawat sought and obtained permission for aggressive action against the Pakistani position from where his troops were being targeted.

    Pakistan insists its post, Sawan Patra, was raided by Indian troops. India has denied the allegation. “None of our troops crossed the Line of Control,” said Jagdish Dahiya, an Indian army spokesperson.

    Either way, though, a Pakistani soldier was dead before the shooting ended — and another critically injured..

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/runaway-grandmother-sparked-savage-skirmish-on-loc/article4291426.ece

    For a start, both sides’ armies may have beheaded enemy corpses in tit-for-tat exchanges last year…

    Indian troops, concerned about the ease with which she seemed to have crossed, started building bunkers around her village to keep a closer eye on residents. Pakistan viewed such a move so close to the frontier as a violation of a cease-fire agreement and tried to halt it by shelling and firing on the area. In October, three villagers were killed by Pakistani shelling, and on Jan. 6, an Indian brigadier general ordered raids on the Pakistani positions, the Hindu report said.

    In a statement Thursday, the Indian army said “certain aspects” of the report were incorrect, specifically denying that its troops had crossed the border, known as the Line of Control, on Jan. 6. The army said it had instead carried out “controlled retaliation” for Pakistani cease-fire violations. It also said that the grandmother crossed the border in September 2011 and denied any link between that and recent events.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/india-media-fuels-outrage-over-beheading-but-real-story-may-be-more-complex/2013/01/10/ef03472e-5b2b-11e2-9fa9-5fbdc9530eb9_story.html

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  • Beheading Indian Soldier By Pakistan, Reason?

    Pakistan has beheaded an Indian soldier in LoC .

    It is reported that people were seen moving towards Indian border and they had cover fire.

    Soldiers were killed on the Indian side and a soldier was beheaded.

    Refuting all the allegations, Pakistan stated that India is building Hysteria and is also building bunkers,

    Pakistan forced by India made a Flag meeting.

    A 45 minutes discussion between the Commanders was reported to be heated and Indian Chief is reported to have stated that ‘India reserved the right to retaliate”

    What is behind the Pakistani move?

    It is curious that the Pakistani Media is not vociferous on this issue till now.

    1.Zardari is facing the sword of the Supreme Court.

    2.Elections in Pakistan is around the corner.

    3.Zardari stressed the importance of the Army in conducting the Elections, while the Opposition is against it.

    4.Days before Zardari’s statement a news item was leaked to the effect that Fundamentalism had emerged as Pakistan’s number one priority and not India.

    5..The Army,ISI is smarting for being sidelined. they feel let down post Osama killing.

    Zardari needs Pakistan Army and Army him,

    The Long march :

    protest March in Pakistan for Electoral Reforms
    Muhammad Tahirul Qadri (C) , leader of Mihajul-Quran movement speaks before a protest march from Lahore to Islamabad January 13, 2013. — File Photo by Reuter
    “Tehrik-i-Minhajul Quran (TMQ) chief Tahirul Qadri on Sunday led thousands of supporters at the start of his long march on the capital Islamabad, demanding key reforms before the upcoming elections.

    Hundreds of cars, buses and trucks carrying around 7,000 people left Model Town in the city of Lahore, expected to grow in number as they pass through towns and villages en route to Islamabad, accompanied by a heavy security presence.

    Qadri accuses the government of being corrupt and incompetent, and argues that Pakistan must enact “meaningful” reforms before general elections, which are scheduled to be held within eight weeks after parliament disbands in mid-March.

    Speaking prior to kicking off what he termed his “march for democracy”, Qadri accused the Punjab provincial government of impounding buses and detaining drivers in their efforts to hamper the protest.

    Qadri, however, vowed to lead the march to the federal, and urged supporters to join him despite all hindrances.

    “This is a march for protection of human rights, elimination of poverty, supremacy of constitution, rule of law and end of corruption,” he said, urging transporters who were not being issued permits and licenses to participate without the provincial government’s approval.

    Qadri’s march comes amid widespread demonstrations in major Pakistani cities in solidarity with the victims of a series of gruesome bombings in Quetta on Thursday. The relatives of the victims, mostly from the minority Hazara Shia community, have refused to bury the dead as long as the Army takes control of the city, which is the provincial capital of Balochistan….

    What better way to divert attention of the people of pakistan than to call Indian bogey?

    Looks like another Kargill is in the offing.

  • Indian Army Reports UFO Ladakh

    Updated August 18, 2013.

    Another sighting of UFO is reported on 4, August, 2013 in the ladakh region, reports Indian Army.

    “Indian Army troops have sighted mysterious unidentified flying objects (UFOs) in the Ladakh sector along the line of actual controlwith China.

    On August 4, the UFO was sighted by Army troops in Lagan Khel area in Demchok in Ladakh area in the evening and a report has been sent to the Army headquarters by the local formation, sources said here.

    There have been over 100 sightings of UFOs along the line of actual control (LAC) in the last several months but this sighting has come after some gap, they said.

    Asked about the UFO sightings by the Army troops in Ladakh sector, defence minister AK Antony had told Parliament that there is no conclusive proof of sighting of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) over the Sino-Indian border.

    The UFO sighting on August 4 comes after reports suggested that a top-level science research institute had found that the UFOs were actually planets Jupiter and Venus, which are clearly visible from the high altitude and thin atmosphere terrain of Ladakh. ‘..

    The UFO sighting on August 4 comes after reports suggested that a top-level science research institute had found that the UFOs were actually planets Jupiter and Venus, which are clearly visible from the high altitude and thin atmosphere terrain of Ladakh.

    The reports said that the research institute had found out that the Army troops deployed in the area had mistaken the two planets as UFOs.

    However, it is not clear whether the conclusion arrived at by the research institute has been accepted by the Army and government.

    Last year, the 14 Corps, which looks after military deployment along Kargil-Leh and the frontiers with China, had sent reports to the Army headquarters about the sightings of UFOs by an ITBP unit in Thakung near the Pangong Tso Lake.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Army-troops-sight-UFO-in-Ladakh-again/articleshow/21894463.cms?intenttarget=no

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    There have been over 100 sightings of UFOs along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in the last several months but this sighting has come after some time-gap, they said.

    Asked about the UFO sightings by the Army troops in Ladakh sector, Defence Minister A K Antony had told Parliament that there is no conclusive proof of sighting of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) over the Sino-Indian border.'(rediff.com)

    The sightings of UFO in India is far and few in between.

    A recent sighting has been reported by the Indo-Tibetan Border Police Force (ITBP) on October 15 , 2012.

    A report.

    According to Indian media reports, units of the Indian Army and the Indo-Tibetan Border Police Force (ITBP) have reported UFOs in the Ladakh region of Jammu and Kashmir. An ITBP unit based in Thakung, close to the Pangong Tso Lake, reported over 100 sightings of luminous objects between August 1 and October 15 this year.
    Pangong Tso lake
    Pangong Tso lake is an endorheic lake in the Himalayas situated at a height of about 4,350 m (14,270 ft). It is 134 km (83 mi) long and extends from India to Tibet. 60% of the length of the lake lies in China. The lake is 5 km (3.1 mi) wide at its broadest point. All together it covers 604 sq. km. During winter the lake freezes completely, despite being saline water.The lake is in the process of being identified under the Ramsar Convention as a wetland of international importance. This will be the first trans-boundary wetland in South Asia under the convention.
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    Ladakh UFO.
    In reports sent to their Delhi headquarters in September, and to the Prime Minister’s Office (PMO), they described sighting “Unidentified Luminous Objects” at day and by night. The yellowish spheres appear to lift off from the horizon on the Chinese side and slowly traverse the sky for three to five hours before disappearing.
    These were not unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVS), drones or even low earth-orbiting satellites, say Army officials who have studied the hazy photographs taken by ITBP.
    In September, the Army moved a mobile ground-based radar unit and a spectrum analyser-that picks up frequencies emitted from any object-to a mountaintop near the 160-km-long, ribbon-shaped Pangong Lake that lies between India and China. The radar could not detect the object that was being tracked visually, in dicating it was non-metallic. The spectrum analyser could not detect any signals being emitted from them. The Army also flew a reconnaissance drone in the direction of the floating object, but it proved a futile exercise. The drone reached its maximum altitude but lost sight of the floating object.
    In late September this year, a team of astronomers from the Indian Astronomical Observatoryat Hanle, 150 km south of the lake, studied the airborne phenomena for three days. The team spotted the flying objects, Army officials say, but could not conclusively establish what they were. They did, however, say that the objects were “non celestial” and ruled out meteors and planets.Scientists however say, the harsh geography and sparse demography of the great Himalayan range that separates Kashmir Valley from Ladakh, lends itself to unusual sightings. “The region is snowbound in winter, has few roads and is one of the most isolated places in India,” says Sunil Dhar, a geologist at the government Post Graduate College in Dharamshala, who has studied glaciers in the region for 15 years.
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    According to media reports A glowing round object making a speedy descent near the West Bengal-Bihar border early on January 26 left pilots of five aircraft baffled, triggering widespread speculation about UFO.The first person to sight the object was a senior Air India pilot who was navigating the aircraft at a height of 34,000 ft during its flight from Kolkata to New Delhi.

    “The plane was just entering the airspace of Gaya, close to Bengal-Bihar border, when I first noticed the glowing object, below the aircraft, hurtling down at a very high speed,” Captain Rishi was quoted as saying by the Air Traffic Control (ATC) Tower here at Dum Dum International Airport.

    The Air India pilot initially didn’t pay much attention as it is customary for the pilots to notice several such things midair. But when the aircraft was close to Varanasi, the object was still brightly visible.

    Without wasting time, he informed the Varanasi Air Traffic Control from where ATC, Kolkata, was alerted.

    The officials at ATC pondered over whether pilots of other international flights that might have crossed the Kolkata-Bihar-Varanasi route, had also observed the glowing object reported by Capt Rishi.

    Accordingly, the ATC, Kolkata, beamed asking signals for other international flights that flew the same airspace during the period concerned.

    To their utter surprise, the air traffic control officials were told by as many as four foreign airlines flight pilots that they had seen the same object and all of them reiterated that it was falling down at a great speed!

    (ufo.blogger.com)
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  • Why India Lost Chinese War 1962, New Facts.

    That Nehru was naive with Chou en Lai, vacillating and a puppet in the hands of V.K.Krishna Menon, people are aware.

    This new evidence is shocking.

    “There is no reason why the Indian Army cannot rise again and give a much better account of itself. I hope when the day comes, it happens under my escutcheon.

    This was what Gen J N Chaudhuri wrote in a 40-page covering note while forwarding the Henderson Brooks-PS Bhagat report on the 1962 military debacle to the Defence Ministry…

     

    The report was commissioned by Gen Chaudhuri, who took over as Army Chief after the war, as an internal Army report to look into just the conduct of military operations since hostilities began in early October 1962 till November 20 when China announced a unilateral ceasefire.

    For the job, he picked Lt Gen Henderson Brooks who was GOC 11 Corps in Jalandhar and had not participated in the operations. The report was submitted in April 1963 and sent to the Defence Ministry with Chaudhuri’s detailed covering note….

    Coming down heavily on the military leadership, the report is particularly critical of the then Chief of General Staff Lt Gen B M Kaul, who was made GOC of the newly created 4 Corps just before the war. He was based out of Tezpur, but was evacuated to Delhi on account of illness just as hostilities broke out in what was then called NEFA.

    The report records him “dashing in and out” of his York Road (now Motilal Nehru Marg) residence, issuing orders from his bed, and the top brass letting him do so instead of finding a successor. These have all been cited as examples of poor generalship.

    Similarly, a copy Kaul’s letter to Nehru at the height of the conflict, urging him to approach the Americans for assistance, has been mentioned and included in the annexures to underscore the loss of nerves among senior officers.

    Significant space, sources said, has been given to the retreat of 4 Infantry Division which had been quickly reconstructed after the Namka Chu defeat and posted to defend the fallback line along the Se La-Senge-Dhirang axis in Arunachal Pradesh. This was after Tawang had been overrun by advancing Chinese forces. It was decided that this axis is where the Army would fight a dogged and prolonged defensive battle for which resources and logistics had been built up. The idea was that longer the campaign stretched, the more difficult it would get for the Chinese to sustain operations.’

    But 4 Div withdrew without fighting, a fact that is officially confirmed and documented in the report. This entire episode of the “collapse and rout of the 4 Infantry Division” has been described in the report as “a shameful incident” of a “renowned division collapsing and retreating without putting up a fight”.

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/poor-military-leadership-not-equipment-led-to-1962-debacle-report-under-wraps/1016475/0

    Fifty years after the Sino-Indian war, the Henderson Brooks-Bhagat report remains under wraps but

    The Sunday Express has learnt that around four pages of this covering note focus on wartime Defence Minister V K Krishna Menon’s interference in military matters, particularly on the shuffling of senior generals in the run-up to the month-long war.

    The covering note, according to sources aware of the contents of the report, is the only place where there is a comment on the political leadership of the Defence Ministry. There is no direct comment on then Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru anywhere in the letter or in the report, which confines itself to the conduct of military operations.

    The important revelatory aspect of the Brooks-Bhagat report is its conclusion that shortages in ammunition and equipment were not among the primary reasons for the defeat.

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/poor-military-leadership-not-equipment-led-to-1962-debacle-report-under-wraps/1016475/0

     

     

     

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  • Unmarked Graves,Kashmir’s Torture Trail Videos

    Kashmir’s Torture Trail [couchtripper]

     

    Kashmir’s Torture Trail – Raped By Soldiers [couchtripper]

    The issue of Human Rights by The Fundamentalists is one thing.

     

    By The Government?

    Unmarked Graves in Kashmir
    Kashmir -Unmarked Graves

     

    Media Too!

     

    One feels extremely shameful even to talk of the genocide of the Tamils in Sri Lanka.

     

    Let’s set our house in order as well.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2012/jul/10/kashmir-torture-trail-video

    Story:

    Indian authorities should immediately open an independent, transparent, and credible investigation into the unmarked graves discovered in Jammu and Kashmir state, Human Rights Watch said today. An inquiry by the police investigation team of the Jammu and Kashmir State Human Rights Commission (SHRC) has found 2,730 bodies dumped into unmarked graves in four of the state’s 14 districts. Thousands of Kashmiris have been forcibly disappeared during the last two decades of violence, their whereabouts unknown.

    http://www.hrw.org/news/2011/08/24/india-investigate-unmarked-graves-jammu-and-kashmir

    More than 2,000 corpses, believed to be victims of Kashmir‘s long-running insurgency, have been found buried in dozens of unmarked graves in the divided region, an Indian government human rights commission report has said.

    The graves were found in dozens of villages on the Indian side of the line of control, the de facto border that has split the former kingdom betweenIndia and Pakistan for nearly 40 years.

    “At 38 places visited in north Kashmir, there were 2,156 unidentified dead bodies buried in unmarked graves,” the inquiry found.

    Though campaigners and community leaders in Kashmir have long said such graves exist – and often provided extensive documentary evidence to back up their claims – the report is the first official statement confirming their existence.

    Released over the weekend, its publication is the result of a three-year inquiry by an 11-member team led by a senior police official.

    Up to 70,000 people died in the 22-year insurgency in Kashmir, which pitted armed separatist groups, many backed by Pakistan, against New Delhi‘s rule.

    The worst of the violence occurred during the mid-1990s when a vicious struggle pitted thousands of militants against Indian security forces supplemented by locally-hired irregulars. Human rights abuses were routine with militants intimidating local communities and killing so-called spies while Indian authorities resorted to abductions, torture and extra-judicial executions on a wide scale. The graves appear to date from this period.

    Kashmir is India’s only Muslim-majority state and the struggle rapidly took on a religious dimension. The victims in the mass graves had been buried by local communities.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/21/kashmir-unmarked-graves-thousands-bodies